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Instead of jumping on the "lets make yet another shitcoin" bandwagon how about instead a team of legends and heroes sets out to update, in chronological order by launch date, all the existing coins, fix all their bugs, see to it all relevant BIPs are applied and so on?
Since a given size/efficiency of team would have some given finite number of coins they could bring up to date before the oldest is out of date again, this approach will probably only be able to deal wit the first so many months or years worth of coins before finding it needs to forget the more-recent ones for now and go back to the start again, maybe this time being able tp update more coins in less time.
So maybe eventually, especially if the team grows, each time through the chronological list they would be able to update more coins before the oldest needs updating again.
Hopefully they will be unlikely to get so fast at this that shitcoins being launched today will ever be reached, but who cares about shitcoins being launched today when there are so many coins launched years ago that not only have not been kept up to date but also have not even been worked on at all but the "developers" (as they like apparently to call themselves) who are ptting out shitcoins today.
Consider for example Tenebrix and Fairbrix, the first and second scrypt coins. Even by the time the third scrypt coin, Litecoin, came out we already were seeing this bullshit of people putting out some new piece of crap of their own instead of fixing the piece of crap the end-users were already invested into.
This Coblee fellow some of you seem to like is actually one of the early perpetrators of spamming out a new scam instead of fixing the ones end-users were already using.
Instead of updating the (really old, horrible) code of Tenebrix and Fairbrix, he just stole their idea and rendered a clone based on newer code (Litecoin), leaving the user-base already invested into the scrypt concept to rot.
Not a nice guy. Did anyone suspect he might just up and abandon Litecoin at some point? Seems like a no-brainer.
So, chronology. Somewhere there was a thread.
Bitcoin, namecoin, ixcoin, i0coin, tenebrix, fairbrix, was it? Or what, exactly? Lets get launch dates in sequence and see what real heroes of the people can accomplish...
Note that Tenebrix's pre-mine, which was the excuse for creating fairbrix and naming it fair, is still out there, so might well be available for bounties for getting Tenebrix out of the stoneage.
-MarkM-
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The new in last few days "CPU coin" "axiom" uses the library that bitcoin is planning to move to, maybe a look at how they did that could be helpful?
Though note they also use totally non-bitcoin stuff for everything else.
I have actually made over a bitcoin I think at current prices just CPU-mining it since a few hours after its launch with about maybe ten or so cores in total.
Likely its price will drop though as more of it is mined and made-by-staking, unless using novel signatures and such really is a good selling-point.
-MarkM-
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Mark, it says it was updated and it expires next year. So why is it still showing expired?
I think maybe that is when the registrar's supervision of it expires, if so it looks like they have a year in which to re-sell it or convince Thomas to renew it. This incident makes me even more glad I spend the extra bucks to use Network Solutions (which I originally did simply from the fact that they inherited from the internet orginal setup all the main domain extensions, probably sue to being made up of all kinds of CIA and NSA etc types or something. I got my domain way back when you could ask for a few hundred on speculation run them a while then pay for any you wanted to keep and let the rest go. I even had windows.com, windows.net and windows.org for while on spec then decided to let them go when no-one would bid anything at all for them on e-bay.  ) Though I guess I should go check if Network Solutions really does have a way anyone can pay for someone else's domain... ...Yes it does, it looks like anyone could pop over there any time and renew my knotwork.com domain for me. ...But asking to renew ixcoin.org results in: Sorry, ixcoin.org is not available but
ixcoin.world is available
We have a High-Value Premium Domain name that is a close match to the domain you searched for:
High-Value Premium Domain
ixcoin.net
Can be purchased for $250.00.
It seems likely that when ixcoin.org expires it will show up somewhere as another high value domain that can be purchased at above normal price, unless .org is not actually considered all that valuable. (But .net isnt really either, is it?) Maybe it would be worthwhile to purchase ixcoin.world, preferably at a registrar that lets anyone pop in and pay for anyone else's domain? (I have not checked whether namecheap, godaddy, etc let youhttps://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx?type=article&contentid=241&categoryid=&articletitle=how-can-i-renew-my-expired-domain do that, maybe they do...) Ok, I tried chat at namecheap as their domains menu had no renew option (I was not signed in) and instead of chat it sent me to a knowledgebase with a link to: https://www.namecheap.com/support/knowledgebase/article.aspx?type=article&contentid=241&categoryid=&articletitle=how-can-i-renew-my-expired-domainWhich basically says to sign in and implies it would only be your own domains you'd be able to renew once signed in. I think for our kind of purpose, a registrar that lets anyone renew anyone's domains is important, as it is often more important to keep the thing alive than to bicker about who technically "owns" it. Similarly though one probably ought to also use a webhost that lets anyone pay for anyone else's website... -MarkM- |
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Depending what registrar it is registered with, it is possible that anyone can pay for it. I seem to recall for example noticing once upon a time at Network Solutions that they seemed to have an option whereby anyone could choose to pay for any domain to have its time extended; as if they don't particularly care who pays just as long as they get the money. Of course this would mean you go ahead and pay but who-ever currently owns it continues to own it... Domain Name:IXCOIN.ORG
Domain ID: D162776984-LROR
Creation Date: 2011-07-13T17:38:10Z
Updated Date: 2015-07-14T01:31:22Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2016-07-13T17:38:10Z
Sponsoring Registrar:PDR Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com (R27-LROR)
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 303
Looks like the registrar is PublicDomainRegistry.com Damn. They have a renew page, http://publicdomainregistry.com/renew/ where you enter a domain name and they tell you who to contact about renewing it. But it gives me an error when I ask it about ixcoin.org It sounds like when you get a domain through them they are kind of an affiliate or something and actually register it somewhere else or something. Or heck maybe they are just who the "whois" command on Ubuntu consults to do WHOIS lookups and aren't actually anything to do with actually registering the domain. Reading more of the WHOIS results: WHOIS Server:
Referral URL:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited -- http://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: autoRenewPeriod -- http://www.icann.org/epp#autoRenewPeriod
Registrant ID:PP-SP-001
Registrant Name:Domain Admin
Registrant Organization:Privacy Protection Service INC d/b/a PrivacyProtect.org
Registrant Street: C/O ID#10760, PO Box 16
Registrant Street: Note - Visit PrivacyProtect.org
Registrant Street: to contact the domain owner/operator
Registrant City:Nobby Beach
Registrant State/Province:Queensland
Registrant Postal Code:QLD 4218
Registrant Country:AU
Registrant Phone:+45.36946676
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:contact@privacyprotect.org
Maybe it is actually owned by that privacy-protection place, not directly by Thomas. Still dunno where they registered it though. A lot of shady registrars these days, and, for all I know, places like that privacy protection place, put domains up for auction when they expire, as it seems the registrars have longer than the people who buy domains from them to hold on to a domain, or something like that. If they think it might have value they might just keep it or auction it. -MarkM- |
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The problem with making a blockchain of your own is securing it. Which can be extremely expensive. So using a blockchain someone else is already securing is for sure worth considering.
Otherwise you'll just end up with yet another insecure shitcoin, which is akin to telling your (supposedly valued) customers to sit their money in a wet paper bag on a windowsill of an open window with a big sign saying "steal me!" on it. I think that's one of the reasons why the Nxt devs put in its "Monetary System." I know, but I didn't want to outright say "a NXT-like system/platform" or "a NEM-like system/platform" or "something like Horizon" or "a coloured coin type system" or "something like Ripple" etc etc etc so as not to bias which specific "issue your own tokens on our blockchain" system I was thinking of, since I have not yet a firm idea myself of which one I would actually use come the time to use such a thing. (Maybe issue some of my tokens on each, even... ) -MarkM- |
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So Cinnamon... About that little code detail... BIP66, the OpenSSL change and all that...
It sounds like all the merged mined coins need to be fixed for that?
Plus any other altcoins any of us are into will also be needing it most likely?
It sounds like we need someone familiar enough with the problem and apt enough at fixing it that putting it into coin after coin after coin until all are fixed will become easier and easier for them to do the more coins they do it to?
Along similar lines I am noticing more and more coins that could really do with having merged mining as a subchain implemented. Mostly these are coins that can be mined with just one or two CPU cores currently, so someone could potentially make good money by mining them all with a core or two each for a while while quietly preparing an upgraded version that will support merged mining so that eventually the coin can be brought back into the public eye - and onto exchanges - with at least some chance of being able to secure their blockchains. (Not all of these coins are SHA256 coins; in fact most of them are not.)
-MarkM-
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If you do have Offshore Banking, how do you get funds in and out of that without a paper trail currently?
I am curious, partly because how-ever it is done might also serve or be adaptable to moving funds into and out of anoncoins, or any other coins for that matter. ?
If it is customarily currently done by having a mule/bagman fly offshore smuggling as many $100 bills as he/she can manage to sneak past customs, maybe having the offshore bank turn it into anoncoins for you might be useful so the offshore bank itself does not know about every payout you make with the funds between handing them over to them and sending another mule/bagman to them to get them back as fiat?
-MarkM-
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Custmarily when I post offers on an exchange I do so "in depth", such as buy 100 at each satoshi of price from this price up or down; or 100 at each 5 satoshis of price from this price up or down.
So far I have not looked into many of the "distributed exhange" systems but what I have been seeing is I can place just one offer, at one price.
I think it might even cost me a fee to place the offer, which makes the custom of placing hundreds or thousands of offers somewhat un-feasible.
So I guess what I am looking for is no fee to place an offer, so I can place thousands of offers, or if there must be a fee to place an offer than a distributed offer, distributed over a range of prices at X number of coins per price, placed Y distance apart in price...
Do any of the distrubuted exchanges meet these needs?
-MarkM-
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Using a platform that lets you create coins on their blockchain is certainly worth looking at if you really feel you must make your own coin instead of using an existing one.
The problem with making a blockchain of your own is securing it. Which can be extremely expensive. So using a blockchain someone else is already securing is for sure worth considering.
Otherwise you'll just end up with yet another insecure shitcoin, which is akin to telling your (supposedly valued) customers to sit their money in a wet paper bag on a windowsill of an open window with a big sign saying "steal me!" on it.
Consider, for example, that once upon a time litecoin was imagined by some people to be secure because they thought it had plenty of hashing power securing it, but suddenly it was revealed (by DOGE) that all it took was a stupid meme to conjure up almost overnight more hashing power than litecoin had. It was sheer luck that the stupid meme happened to tell its fans "lets make another stupid shitcoin" instead of saying "lets doublespend litecoins"... Which the meme conjured up easily enough hashing power to do.
If your shitcoin cannot attract and retain more hashing power than litecoin it will be even more vulnerable than litecoin, and it is probably just a matter of time before some other stupid meme happens along, who knows maybe the next meme will say "trash all the scrypt coins!" or "lets trash that company's private shitcoin!" or whatever.
-MarkM-
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That is a tiny market cap, not worth bothering with.
Just set yourself up to accept a bunch of coins that are already in use, by signing up with one or more of the services that accept coins on behalf of merchants.
-MarkM-
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People keep creating new coins instead of maintaining the existing ones.
If we were to seriously propose to help folks by trying to maintain coins, Neutron would be years down the list because there are still some of the very first altcoins ever made that are not being maintained as well as they could be.
So if you really do want to help by maintaining coins, how about start at the start, there are many coins from the very start of altcoining that could do with more maintaining.
Lets put Neutron on the back burner as one that should never have been created in the first place because when it was created there were already coins created prior to it that we were not fully up to date on maintaining at the time it was created.
We should have fully maintained those and brought them all up to date before even considering creating yet another altcoin...
How can anyone trust devs who keep spewing out new coins when they have not even attempted in even a token way to first bring up to date all the existing coins?
The first thing that should be expected of anyone interested in becoming a coin dev is that they do their homework / training / on the job experience by participating in bringing all the existing coins up to date.
Then once they are all up to date maybe, possibly, but probably not likely, it might be reasonable for them to say "I have worked now on every coin out there, brought them all up to date as much as possible, and with all that experience and having seen that none of them can be adapted to fill this objective I have in mind, I am reluctantly forced to conclude we might need to create one more coin, to fill this gap that no already existing coin can be adapted to fill..."
-MarkM-
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It is a science-fiction themed coin, useful for science-fiction themed games.
Not being on an exchange is a good thing for game currencies, until Diablo III came along games always HAD TO say in their terms and conditions that players MUST NOT sell game stuff for real money. That is because of gambling laws, basically if there is any chance that any player could take home more money than they put in, the game came under gambling laws, which can be a huge can of worms.
So in looking for cryptocoins to implement into innocent games/sports as distinct from mere gambling, finding ones with themes that suit the milieu of your game and which do NOT have official "this stuff is real money, see, there is an exchange, you can sell it for fiat" can be important...
Of course if even after all the trouble we went to to ensure our game is NOT gambling, some evil player(s) break the rules by setting up markets where game stuff can be traded for real money, not much that we can do about it...
-MarkM-
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This is the announcements section, for gosh sakes! It takes about how many seconds/minutes for threads to scroll off the page?
I never even tried to look at this section almost since it was created, regarding it as just a trash can full of yet another new dozen coins of the day every day spam.
I have actually tried looking at this section a lot lately, but still it took weeks or months to happen to see this thread and thus realise devcoin even still bothers with a thread here.
Sometimes in the past I have tried to keep a browser tab on threads I hope to keep track of, but after a while the tabs get so tiny their labels are illegible.
Bookmarks are even worse, it has literally been years, maybe even a decade or more, since I actually went into bookmarks to see what I might once upon a time have filed away there thinking I'd thus get back to it.
The altcoins sections of bitcointalk are less and less useful all the time, more and more just full of useless garbage.
So Coinzen has a value, I think.
(Though I see entire sections there I doubt I will ever look at. Maybe those are full of garbage too, I don't know. Why do we even have sections there for coins that are totally unrelated to DeVCoin? I mean I can see where all the coins that can be merged mined with DeVCoin are relevant so we can upkeep all those coins to mine them all at once, but I have to wonder why some of the coins that have sections there are there. Though I can't recall what they are even, I just vaguely recall once upon a time noticing seemingly random accretions of coins that didn't seem to have any particular relevance to DeVCoin.)
-MarkM-
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Dev needs to add directories. For now, mkdir src/obj/secp256k1 mkdir src/obj/secp256k1 You also need: chmod +x src/leveldb/build_detect_platform Now you can compile Thanks! I am used to some coins lacking the obj directory but didn't make the leap to same problem happening with its subdirs. I think you meant second occurence of mkdir src/obj/secp256k1 to say mkdir src/obj/secp256k1/src though. -MarkM- |
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Ubuntu 14.04 LTS; I made and installed the secp256 thing from the specified git repo, as I had errors trying to compile without doing so. However, even after installing that, I still cannot compile (I used "make USE_UPNP= -f makefile.unix axiomd"). What is the problem, it looks almost as if you are trying to compile your own copy of the secp thing in a subdirectory? In file included from secp256k1/src/secp256k1.c:18:0:
secp256k1/src/ecmult_impl.h: In function ‘void secp256k1_ecmult_odd_multiples_table_storage_var(int, secp256k1_ge_storage_t*, const secp256k1_gej_t*)’:
secp256k1/src/ecmult_impl.h:96:71: warning: invalid conversion from ‘void*’ to ‘secp256k1_gej_t*’ [-fpermissive]
secp256k1_gej_t *prej = checked_malloc(sizeof(secp256k1_gej_t) * n);
^
secp256k1/src/ecmult_impl.h:97:69: warning: invalid conversion from ‘void*’ to ‘secp256k1_ge_t*’ [-fpermissive]
secp256k1_ge_t *prea = checked_malloc(sizeof(secp256k1_ge_t) * n);
^
secp256k1/src/ecmult_impl.h:98:67: warning: invalid conversion from ‘void*’ to ‘secp256k1_fe_t*’ [-fpermissive]
secp256k1_fe_t *zr = checked_malloc(sizeof(secp256k1_fe_t) * n);
^
secp256k1/src/secp256k1.c: At global scope:
secp256k1/src/secp256k1.c:460:48: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to ‘char*’ [-Wwrite-strings]
static char *secp256k1_schnorr_message_tweak = "secp256k1-Schnorr-SHA256";
^
In file included from secp256k1/src/field_impl.h:17:0,
from secp256k1/src/secp256k1.c:15:
secp256k1/src/field_10x26_impl.h:44:13: warning: ‘void secp256k1_fe_verify(const secp256k1_fe_t*)’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
static void secp256k1_fe_verify(const secp256k1_fe_t *a) {
^
In file included from secp256k1/src/secp256k1.c:17:0:
secp256k1/src/group_impl.h:36:13: warning: ‘void secp256k1_ge_set_infinity(secp256k1_ge_t*)’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
static void secp256k1_ge_set_infinity(secp256k1_ge_t *r) {
^
In file included from secp256k1/src/secp256k1.c:17:0:
secp256k1/src/group_impl.h:161:13: warning: ‘void secp256k1_gej_set_xy(secp256k1_gej_t*, const secp256k1_fe_t*, const secp256k1_fe_t*)’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
static void secp256k1_gej_set_xy(secp256k1_gej_t *r, const secp256k1_fe_t *x, const secp256k1_fe_t *y) {
^
secp256k1/src/group_impl.h:227:12: warning: ‘int secp256k1_gej_is_valid_var(const secp256k1_gej_t*)’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
static int secp256k1_gej_is_valid_var(const secp256k1_gej_t *a) {
^
secp256k1/src/secp256k1.c:637:1: fatal error: opening dependency file obj/secp256k1/src/secp256k1.d: No such file or directory
}
^
compilation terminated.
make: *** [obj/secp256k1/src/secp256k1.o] Error 1
-MarkM- |
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The original post of this thread seems vaguely to hint that it might be possible to mine this coin, but since no algorithm/miner is specified how is anyone able to actually mine it?
What do you do, try every mining software and hardware out there in each configuration/algo until you get lucky and happen upon one that seems to work?
Why is the mining method/algo such a secret???
-MarkM-
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i dont think so that 30-40 yo guys will sit at front of their pc to play some games for cents.
Despite all the tables and charts all you lot presumably look at all the time deciding which altcoins to pump and dump, I get the impression the figures on the tables linked from http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html are just not somehow actually computing for you people. Take another look at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/deuterium.htmlSee those labels across the top of the page? Even if most of them are unfamiliar to you, surely you have heard of BiTCoin (BTC), or maybe DeVCoin (DVC), or maybe of I0Coin (I0C) or IXCoin (IXC) or LiTeCoin (LTC) ? Or if not, then maybe of NaMeCoin (NMC) ? If you think that fifty million units of Deuterium at those prices per thousand units is "cents" I have to wonder what kind of precious metals your cents are made of ? -MarkM- |
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There are plenty of coins used in games. But in the cases I am thinking of they are used by the players, so you have to come up with some good reason why other players would give you coins. Two apparently quite lucrative sources of in game income are the General Mining Corp and the General Retirement Corp, both of which regularly buy large quantities (lately typically about fifty million units in a shipment) of Deuterium; prices are shown here: http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/deuterium.htmlMore data on the various assets they play with are linked from the main menu page here: http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.htmlThe game, or metagame, in which this all takes place has the top level of its wiki pages here: http://devtome.com/doku.php?id=galactic_milieuThe trick to getting players who have coins to give you some is usually to find some way that your characters or groups or nations or whatever scale you operate on in the game can be of use to them; or simply by doing trades between various factions, exchanging their various currencies for them for example, or organising procurement of things in a way that saves them bother such as by doing the small scale buying from small suppliers that is necessary to put together a large scale lot of something that players at a larger scale are interested in. (For example a Freeciv-scale settler unit creates a city of population 10000 when it settles, but 10000 characters is a large number of characters at an individual-character scale, and not everyone interested in obtaining a freeciv-scale settler unit wants to deal with the details of grouping together 10000 MUD-characters, for example, to create such a unit from a smaller scale of play...) -MarkM- |
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I have a bunch of those running, but have no idea what three of them even are: DPZ, FER and PRC.
The 99.192.75.243 IP address is what my provider is currently giving me, but my router does not obey UPNP commands so I doubt that the various ports someone showed above for my several machines running UFC will allow incoming connections. The actual default normal port should be routed to one of the machines though.
Since my internet provider could change my IP address at any time, and in the case of one of my houses does seem to change it all the damn time, it is probably best to use -dns on the command-line to enable use of hostnames for addnodes, so that you can add the nodes crossciv.no-ip.org and ufbsh.no-ip.org (for all the coins I run, which should be all of them soon if you tell me what those three I do not recognise are, and provided of course you don't drive the difficulty up to make it pointless to bother with them.)
Most of these coins you can mine just fine with one or two CPU cores, at least until some barbarian comes along with a GPU or ASIC and drives up the electricity cost for everyone by increasing the difficulty.
If everyone plays it cool we can mine these things for months or years yet with almost no cost by restraining ourselves to just a core or two per coin per person as long as the barbarians let us get away with doing so...
-MarkM-
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Lots of solidcoin type coins, the so called master node bullshit, have been coming out for quite a while now, why after they have already been spewing his crap for so long is it only now that thoughts about it maybe being him are coming up?
Why the heck are there so many coins now spewing his old centralisation crap of master nodes anyway?
Wasn't it obvious the moment master nodes came up again that his same old scam was being brought back?
-MarkM-
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