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621  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Roger Ver: Starting His Own Crypto Exchange? on: September 11, 2019, 11:08:39 AM
At some point KYC will be a legal requirement and then things will not looking so attractive for those thinking of signing up on Ver Exchange

What is the current unique selling point of the Ver Exchange for the end user?
Roger is a someone who's dislike for governments is definitely going to make him at least try to find a loophole somewhere to still offer KYC free use, but then obviously in a limited form.

The main selling point is what I consider his domain because it makes people somewhat trust the entity behind it without even knowing who that is. Roger is well aware of how powerful that domain is and isn't shy to abuse it.

I have to admit though, Roger is a work horse. Say about him what you want, but he's adding so much value to that shitcoin that it is pretty sad to see his efforts go to waste. Too bad he turned into a jealous ex.
622  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How does localbitcoins work? on: September 11, 2019, 09:06:40 AM
In most of the cases, LBC actually doesn't do anything as the trade flows smoothly. They would only really actively intervene if someone disputes the transaction.
I have seen quite some reports about accounts that were put on a block because of suspicious activity, which means that the user either conducted a transaction larger than usual or a lot of smaller transactions in a single day.

In other words, if your trading behavior doesn't correspond with your trading behavior of the last couple of months or even years (not exactly sure how long they go back), you're pretty much guaranteed to get your account blocked.

I get why they are trying to be alert on suspicious activity due to regulations they have to comply with, but they are so trigger happy that it makes people using LBC actually change behavior and trade less naturally.
623  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Coinsbit.io has blocked my account on: September 11, 2019, 08:07:46 AM
I maked trade daily on this exchange from May until they blocked me. I just make an Order on pair coins for example BTC/USD for Bid Or Ask (lower or upper the price). If an Order was performed it means a buyer and seller agree to do that Order. I dont understand the Coinsbit team reason!  
 
Now, I dont have access to my account but, as I know, I deposited these coins: 1ETH (3th May) and about 0.047 BTC (a some of it in 20 jul) and 16000E2C (in different dates)
Do you or have you ever used a VPN or something to log into your account? Maybe that they suspect you from trading back and forth with yourself because the same IP was being used by other traders at one point in time.

I find it quite disturbing that exchanges in general vaguely describe the 'reason' for the block, but never go into detail about what actually happened so you can prevent making the same mistake in the future. Horrible service.
624  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [2019-09-09] Comparing Bitcoin to PayPal Makes no Sense on: September 10, 2019, 09:40:41 PM
I love Bitcoin and I'd use it over Paypal any time I could, but let's admit it. Probably easier to send $0.10 every day to someone with PP than it is with Bitcoin.
If you like paying a $1 fee, then sure, go ahead. It's a couple of months ago where I wanted to send someone $0.50 for a stamp through PayPal, and I got charged a fee of $1 to do so.

Completely retarded but I went through with it anyway. Another time I was charged $4 to send someone $80, also through the friends and family option. Bitcoin has definitely an edge over PayPal for cross country transfers.

People don't think it's justified to compare PayPal to Bitcoin because they have given up on the payment narrative. Digital gold narrative has to be pushed so they do exactly that. Poor show. 
625  Economy / Speculation / Re: How to predict Bit coin price. on: September 10, 2019, 09:15:41 PM
If your grandma and coworkers talk bitcoin every day for a week GTFO! Or wait for the first dump and dump too...
Peter Schiff recently said that it's extremely bullish for gold that the average person and cab drivers are talking about it, because they're going to invite their friends and all that. Looking back, the price has gone down 5%. Cheesy

I also remember that he in 2017 warned people about the bubble that was forming because the average person and cab drivers were talking about it, which according to him was a sign that the bubble was about to burst. The hypocrite.

Overall, the mass in most cases has always been a great indicator of how a market is valued, but the thing is that even when everyone is talking about a specific asset, it can still take many months before we start correcting.
626  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bakkt on: September 10, 2019, 08:33:10 PM
It looks Wall street dont like Bitcoin that much. Apparently is not that much interest. Hopefully just yet and not at all.
Based on what? The price that's going down? Bakkt hasn't done anything to promote itself as a price driver. No product, no actual sign of demand for physically settled futures, etc. The price shouldn't react to this.

The reason for the price not to go up much more is because we're stuck in a bearish pattern, and the fact that little to no fresh capital is entering the space (read; no influx of stablecoin inflation).

When Tether was printing tokens the price kept going up consistently. Now Tether's printing has almost stopped, so does the bullish momentum that we had. It seems that we're due for months of bearish price action.
627  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: One guy built a Lighting ATM from Scratch ( $80) on: September 10, 2019, 06:45:07 PM
Definitely not quite practical, at least not to me, but I don't think that's ever really the point of all these inventions. Definitely high up there on the cool scale, and a continued use case, plus public proof for Bitcoin.
It's just a raw prototype. With some effort it will resemble more of a Bitcoin ATM as we know it, but at a fraction of the cost. I can see these ATMs be used at certain events where Bitcoiners and geeks come together.

It's something I definitely would like to build myself, but I have no clue where to even start. It makes me feel somewhat of a dumbo, which is why I appreciate the creativity and innovation of people who do know where and how to start.

As for the legal side that people refer to, that shouldn't be an issue with how these ATMs won't be widely distributed to places where they are meant to stay for ever. As I said above, these are perfect for events where people can play with it.
628  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why haven't governments illegalized bitcoin transactions? on: September 10, 2019, 05:03:34 PM
Its also true that many people use bitcoin for the reasons they can evade taxes. There are wrongdoers among us too. They need to be corrected, its the other side of the coin. Cheesy
I don't see people evading taxation as wrongdoers. I pay taxes over my profits and fiat on my bank account, but I will not pay a single penny in tax over my cold wallet holdings.

Does that make me a criminal in your book? People are just trying to protect as much of their net worth as possible, which isn't something you can blame them for. It's a shame that we have to do this.

That being said, gold is being used for tax evasion too. This indicates that people are looking for decentralized assets that nobody can take away from them. More power to the people!
629  Economy / Economics / Re: China launching its own crypto currency ? on: September 09, 2019, 11:56:22 PM
I do not see anything wrong with the creation by the Chinese government of its own CBDC coin. It will be a very peculiar and seems to be stable coin with several levels of anonymity.
Governments issuing their own coin/token do that because it offers them more control over the money supply than ever before, so where did you read that it is going to offer people several levels of anonymity?

If you think logically, it doesn't even make sense with how governments want to trace every single trail of your transactions, so from there it's going to be an anti privacy rather tool rather than a privacy enhancing tool.

If you also add that China is slowly but surely becoming a digital surveillance country where the government spies on its people in every single corner of the street with facial recognition and such, then you'll know that privacy isn't going to be present.
630  Economy / Economics / Re: Fed and Europe and Even Australia did rate cut but btc Still low on: September 09, 2019, 11:04:27 PM
Are you saying that there should be correlation here? I'm sorry but there are no correlation and the only thing that will make the price go up is demand.
It's unlikely that there is any non-coincidental correlation, but we can't discard it either-- some investors tend to front run these events in the hope that an asset will appreciate in value, which to some lower degree might apply to Bitcoin.

This front running demand isn't any different from other forms of demand-- demand is demand no matter who the investors are, and no matter what their intention is-- price appreciation is what the end goal is for basically every buyer.

Buy the rumor sell the news is an example of front running. If the to be announced rate cuts this month will disappoint, speculative investments such as stocks will increase and gold decrease.

Bitcoin could actually benefit if stocks go up, but then again, we're currently stuck inside a nasty looking bearish pattern. The bias seems to be to the downside no matter what but there is always a probability that we break up.
631  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What did you know about Bitcoin before becoming a bitcoiner? on: September 09, 2019, 10:24:41 PM
I knew little to nothing about it other than what people promoted Bitcoin as, which was a new form of online currency for payments. I however didn't care much about that aspect with how fascinated I was by its price.

I started out as get rich quick noob waiting for price movements to make money. The reality however was that I ended up doing more buy high sell low than vice versa. It rook me a while to figure out what I did wrong.

Bull runs is what gets most people drawn to this space, while the bear markets afterwards clean up the space where we end up with more people who are here for the right reasons, which is to promote decentralized sound money.
632  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Smile-to-pay - facial payment technology in China on: September 09, 2019, 09:43:00 PM
I'm not defending this smile-to-pay thing, but I don't think it's this easily exploitable. As far as I know(not sure, don't quote me on this), most decent facial recognition systems take note of the sort of "depths" of a certain face. So chances are that simply using a photo of a person won't do the job.
That would require extra cameras or infrared sensors driven by AI. My smartphone for example has an infrared laser it uses to measure dept up to a certain distance, which in this case would confirm your point.

If you however have a lower end smartphone with an ordinary camera, there isn't going to be a capability of depth measurement, which makes manipulation obviously easier.

I am still shocked by how many people use their latest smartphone models in combination with facial recognition. My smartphone has that option too, but I simply use an old fashion swipe-to-unlock feature.

I'm not even using the fingerprint scanner. I'm too paranoid to use these features.
633  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Shower thought. Bitcoin ETF bad? on: September 09, 2019, 09:03:58 PM
I'm not sure if I agree with 'the community' when it comes to being your own bank. Sure, it's preferred in terms of having full control over your coins, but some people just don't care enough about the values we consider important.

People here have a hard time looking at the other side of the story because they find it necessary to promote their vision without taking into consideration that not everyone has a problem with third parties.

Bakkt exists because there is a demand for their service. Coinbase custody exists because there is a demand for their service, and so forth. If people consider these services valuable to them, then good luck to them.
634  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-09-05] Fewer People Are Sending Bitcoin to Largest Crypto Exchanges on: September 09, 2019, 06:56:42 PM
There is some interesting news from the cryptocurrency market. During the past 24 hours, the Bitcoin dominance has declined from 71.2% to 69.9%. This will give some breathing room for the alts, although I am not sure how long this phase is going to last. In the long term, I don't have much hope for the vast majority of the altcoins and tokens.
What's so interesting about that? Dominance isn't longer just a metric to measure where Bitcoin stands against altcoins, but a chart that can be traded where there are resistance and support levels to pay attention to.

As with everything in a bull market, the price goes up a bit, then corrects slightly, then make a higher high, correct, etc. Bitcoin's dominance is no exception in that regard-- the trend continues until the market dynamics hint at a reversal.

Overall, altcoins have never really added anything of value in terms of utility, but they have gone through the roof nonetheless. Once Bitcoin profits are taken, the most likely route are altcoins to maximize profits even further.
635  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-09-07] Bitcoin Trading is now Banned in Burundi on: September 09, 2019, 05:46:25 PM
So, if countries and governments cannot see or do not want to see how a global currency can create more jobs and how a currency like this can help them, then they will just continue to be a struggling 3rd world country.  Angry  
It might also be related to how the elite there likes the fact that they are enriching themselves more. The less time and money you waste on people you don't care about anyway, the more there is for you to tap into.

The leaders of third world countries tend to dress up in outfits that the regulars would take a decade to accumulate through hard physical work. It's so unfair yet so common.

Ignorance is a powerful weapon the government possesses. North Korea is the most extreme example of how ignorance is being utilized as such. In less extreme forms we see also it happen in other third world countries.
636  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can Bitfinex still be trusted? on: September 08, 2019, 11:53:38 PM
You have been to kind with Finex for giving them a rating of 3.3. After all the shady stunts they have pulled off to the majority of their users in a span of a year, I don't think they even deserve to have a rating of 1 at all, and that's from a point-of-view of someone who used the said service during my vacation in the US just 3 months back.
I wonder though, with how shady Bitfinex has been for quite a long time now, and with how you seem decently aware of these practices based on your post, why did you even bother to use them in the more recent times?

My question is, what did you need Bitfinex for that other exchanges couldn't provide you? I can easily find multiple alternatives that provide a better and less shady service than Bitfinex without all too much effort and time.
637  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do whales got burnt in the market. on: September 08, 2019, 11:26:58 PM
Whales aren't that different from small fishes like you and me, because having much more money doesn't necessarily mean that they know more or have better trading strategies.

A lot of whale money has gone to waste trying to support the price during the 2018 bear market. I'm sure that the wales were just as afraid seeing the price hit $3000 as most of the people on this forum were.

It's nearly impossible to prevent old hands from crashing the price down, especially with how MtGox has been a huge seller. The positive side effect of these sales are that coins get redistributed fairer. Smiley
638  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: New FATF guidelines require professional crypto consultation on: September 08, 2019, 10:32:32 PM
Since cryptos have no border limitations, a global standard operating procedure has to be created and adopted by every country for crypto transactions. The entire matter is at a very nascent stage right now but slowly taking shape! There will be no space for Coinbase or any other exchange to follow different type of guidelines. All will have to comply with the global standard.
That's a pretty scary forecast but nothing too surprising with how we have seen the banking system adopt similar measures before Bitcoin even existed, and they aren't done yet with how governments demand more of them year after year.

Technically speaking, any service dealing with 'physical' crypto currencies is a financial institution by nature, and for that reason they are and will be treated as such. Nothing that can be done about it unfortunately.

The great thing about Bitcoin is that you can use it without asking for permission if you avoid centralized services. With fiat digitally that is not possible at all. They have built a framework meant to trap people in and turn them into their slaves.
639  Economy / Economics / Re: Indian Economy rising at slowest pace - Should they consider Crypto-currency? on: September 08, 2019, 09:25:56 PM
Instead of government going into crypto currency as a whole, maybe there should be some sort of support for crypto acceptance and adoption for the public? Like maybe have less taxes for stuff that are sold with crypto? That would make a lot of difference, if the tax of something you buy is lets say 18% but if you buy it with crypto it would become 8% than you will probably pick the bitcoin version,
I doubt that's going to work where we are today in the world of crypto. If we compare acceptance and how user-friendly both Bitcoin and fiat are, then fiat comes out as clear winner.

Maybe when Bitcoin is really mass-ready, and countries exempt the practice of spending Bitcoin from taxation, then it could be something of interest, but we're so far away from that right now that we have to forget about it.

It's more likely that we see governments tokenize their fiat currencies and shove them right in your throat as the only legal tender. Fiat is already digital for the most part, so tokenization is the next logical step.
640  Economy / Economics / Re: The New World Order with Crypto and Blockchain Technology on: September 08, 2019, 06:23:29 PM
Fair voting for example isn't going to be more fair with private blockchains of 'independent' organizations. They are highly susceptible to manipulation. For that you would need Bitcoin, a truly independent and immutable blockchain.
Bitcoin hasn't ever really been stress-tested to where we can say it's immutable or not. I think that elections are a fundamental enough incentive to at least see arrows be pointed at Bitcoin from various angles.

Bitcoin in its current form is too innocent to be considered a threat to anything. This might and probably will change the larger its market cap and usage appreciate, but until then we will not find out how immutable Bitcoin really is.

I'm not being negative here, just realistic. Bitcoin's security is unmatched within crypto, but there are threats looming from governments we haven't yet had to deal with. Thus far they just have regulated the market, but what's step two?
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