Bitcoin Forum
June 21, 2024, 12:43:07 PM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
  Home Help Search Login Register More  
  Show Posts
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 [32] 33 34 35 »
621  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO starting in 48hrs on: August 23, 2016, 12:13:44 PM
We created spreadsheet for signature bounties: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10tRJSuPZ_mak2-mt_5bwtmIXuH4waCVWAmz3zO83cFg/edit?pref=2&pli=1#gid=0

And also for new signature participants please register via this google form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdF-XevzrABWg_Q2fg2q5CEjibfequjjEI1qSBkZyRrG4nD_A/viewform
622  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 23, 2016, 11:00:00 AM
2 days again Cool
Yes, just 50 more hours as per the clock in https://ico.iconomi.net. I am so excited to get into first round of ICO itself to enjoy the massive 15% bonus. Many times I have regretted many time for not buying earlier in other ICOs to get maximum benefits. I believe this time I will not miss this biggest opportunity thanks to signature campaign.

All ICO project will be successful if they pay attention to all the communities that already support. Hopefully iconomi see my writing.

We sure do!

Can I register an account now or I should wait till the ICO launch commences


You have to wait for ICO to start and then you can register an account.
623  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 23, 2016, 10:52:05 AM
Is ICONOMI like a trading fund or hedging fund or what? Like superNet? Buys coins/tokens/ico and seek profits?

It's products will be like ETF and Mutual funds. But in crypto world. For outside investors.

Take few minutes to open whitepapers. They are well written. Even if you only scan them. To better understand why and what we are doing.

https://www.iconomi.net/ICONOMI_Whitepaper.pdf
https://www.iconomi.net/CoinFundsWhitepaper.pdf
624  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 23, 2016, 10:45:52 AM
2 days again Cool
Yes, just 50 more hours as per the clock in https://ico.iconomi.net. I am so excited to get into first round of ICO itself to enjoy the massive 15% bonus. Many times I have regretted many time for not buying earlier in other ICOs to get maximum benefits. I believe this time I will not miss this biggest opportunity thanks to signature campaign.

Same here. I haven't been part of a big ICO yet. Waiting for the next 2 days to get a notififcation when the ICO starts.

What Bitcoin wallet are you using in Connection with iconomi.net?





Collecting address will be 2/3 multisg. Where we will hold only 1 key for each crypto we'll be accepting.

Read more about collecting funds and multisig: https://medium.com/iconominet/collecting-funds-and-multisig-key-holders-d2bb5d517a6f
625  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 23, 2016, 10:34:08 AM
I cant wait untill these 2 days are past so we can invest. I think it will get to the 2000 btc really promising project.

i can't wait too. this will be my first time investing in any ICOs, this project really caught my attention and i don't see any scammy attempt here so i will be willing to invest some of my coins here Cheesy


Well i don't see any sign either because dev hire a good campaign manager aswell as he's doing a right track and good advertisement  so his coin will be known for more and i really see that this coin well be more exciting to trade with so better support now whil the bunos are still up, i cant wait to trade this and hope dev will select trex or poloniex for exchanger.

Thx! We're managing campaign by ourselves. Which exchanges will this hit depends on them, but as an interesting and promising project that should not be the problem.
626  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 23, 2016, 09:41:53 AM
As far I understand Iconomi token holders can have a vote on some decisions but all the hard work about investing in crypto currencies and other ICO projects will be done by core team, the investing platform will be offered to classic investors which have no real knowledge of crypto world and blockchain

Then the success or fall will be mainly due bad or good investments from a core team



How about the people with busy real life and got no time to spend on crypto? I think its a good idea to everyone who wanted to invest on to this but cant do so much.


Good point here! People with busy real life, and deeper pockets need to have easy way of investing in crypto. That is what we are doing.
627  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 23, 2016, 09:10:32 AM
2 days again Cool
Yes, just 50 more hours as per the clock in https://ico.iconomi.net. I am so excited to get into first round of ICO itself to enjoy the massive 15% bonus. Many times I have regretted many time for not buying earlier in other ICOs to get maximum benefits. I believe this time I will not miss this biggest opportunity thanks to signature campaign.

All ICO project will be successful if they pay attention to all the communities that already support. Hopefully iconomi see my writing.

We sure do!
628  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 23, 2016, 12:53:25 AM
As far I understand Iconomi token holders can have a vote on some decisions but all the hard work about investing in crypto currencies and other ICO projects will be done by core team, the investing platform will be offered to classic investors which have no real knowledge of crypto world and blockchain

Then the success or fall will be mainly due bad or good investments from a core team



Exactly. To classic investors that are in need of easy solutions for crypto investing.

Success... pretty much yes. If we do good work then this project will be huge success. But if we fail at delivering good job, then you will have a mechanism to vote and replace us. Just not before 24months. That is the moratorium that will start with first product launch.
629  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 11:59:12 PM
My thoughts on the whitepaper :

What attracts me the most is the Transparent Open Fund Management (OFM) platform, the idea of individuals creating their own investments funds is really powerful, in the old economy although possible it is prohibitively expensive to do so and to attract investors is impossible. For investors into the funds the transparency is another differential and also powerful.
But do i think the platform will disrupt the asset management industry ? Unfortunately in my opinion not while the platform allow just position on coins, if at any point in time in the future i am also able to buy other assets through the platform, example i have a portfolio which is short ETH, long S&P500 and short USDJPY, then this have a real potential of disrupting the industry, but i imagine we are far away from this reality at this point, because of regulation.
But still it is an idea that i want be in from the start because the successful paths that the platform can take are many, even if the OFM doesn't fly on the short/middle term. Also can't wait to open my own crypto quantitative fund ! Grin Grin Grin Grin

You are right. It will be very hard to disrupt classic asset management from the old economy. Regulations, rules and everything. And this world of ours is moving way too fast for the old one to follow at the same pace.

Is there any possible situation that my initial stake in the platform gets diluted by any management action ? Like a second round of tokens issue, creation of another form of stake in the platform. If not, how this is guarantee ?

It will be baked in the contract. 100m is the coin cap.

Let me ask 2 questions following this answer:

- You gonna distribute 85% capital of the platform on a 1 round of funding ? Wouldn't be more advisable to let some of the coins to future funding if needed ?  What happens in the future, for example if you are reaching some milestones, doing well, but you need more "capital" to take the platform further ?

- The team keeps 15% of the coins and the market has 85% ?Isn't possible to someone who is very interested on the platform in the future to make an "hostile takeover", buying 51% of the coins in the market, what would happen in this situation ? 

If we would need/want more capital we would trigger voting. And if 75% would agree to issue more tokens and gain more value for all then this is what would happen. But that would only be possible with sufficient voting.

With regarding to previous answer, 75% would be needed. Probably hard to get that much. Plus... price would get up accordingly by a lot. So it would be pure gain for ICN holders. And then the one doing takeover would replace us as operators. I actually think it's not likely scenario unless we would really start messing up, but is technically possible.
630  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 11:12:27 PM
So for me it is still not understable. When can I got my tokens and when can I trade with them on exchanges? Any ETA time?

Tokens will be distributed within one month after ICO. And that's when they become tradable on exchanges. We think that is optimal time for investment of this kind to go live on exchanges.

Also, at the time when this hit exchanges we will be given funds from ICO. Because we use escrow and that's the rule we set. So it is in everyone's interest that tokens are distributed asap and consequently hit exchanges asap as well.
631  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 10:44:37 PM
In white paper, you have CTF, CMF, I guess those correspond to ICONOMI.INDEX FUND and  ICONOMI.PERFORMANCE FUND. I am not a financial expert, I think there are too many terms and they are not consistent.

Also ICN tokens work as company shares, I am a little confused by the relationship between CTF, CMF. Those are two completely different thing, right? Only majority adopt the idea and invest CTF, CMF, the value of ICN will increase. Am I on the right track?

Lastly, can you explain a little about future in your mind, say in 5 years, what is best and worst scenarios for the ICONOMI?



ICONOMI.INDEX is one of CTF (crypto traded fund) products. There will be more crypto traded funds. There could be ICONOMI.INDEX.storage or ICONOMI.INDEX.media. But all will be same class of CTF.

CMF is coin managed fund. There can be more coin managed funds as well.

CTFs and CMFs will be products under ICONOMI.

The more profit they will create the better will be for ICN (ICONOMI token hodlers) as profit will be given to ICN holders as dividends.

In 5y. Worst is that we don't create any profit any value goes down to zero. In best case, we can own 10% of each future token and value of ICN goes up accordingly.
632  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 09:37:08 PM
SEEMS like decent idea for coin but sorry looks like usual ICO crap coin.  Until devs prove otherwise still shady.

Also sorry I NO LONGER BUY ANY ICO COIN FROM RUSSIAN OR EASTERN EURO DEVS!  To many scam and bullshit from them!

WAVES was only last option LOL.

The only thing equally distributed among anyone on this planes is time. Each has 24h. Not sure why are you spending your scarce resource with some generalisations here.
633  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 05:55:17 PM
This one is interesting. How much has been raised so far?

0 BTC so far. ICO opens in ~3days and will run for 5 weeks.
634  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 05:19:01 PM
coin charge for coin , how work ?    Roll Eyes

It will work like this. Good read!

https://www.iconomi.net/ICONOMI_Whitepaper.pdf
https://www.iconomi.net/CoinFundsWhitepaper.pdf
635  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 05:13:00 PM
Quote
The ICONOMI.PERFORMANCE FUND - which will be invite only

What will be the conditions to join this fund? Will it be open for all iconomi token holders?


I guess that will be the condition yes to have ICONOMI tokens (maybe there will even be a minimum someone should have). Let's wait what team members say about this fund.

It will be initially open only to those participating in ICONOMI ICO - regardless of invested amount.

ICONOMI.PERFORMANCE will have limited options to invest at first. Therefore we'll be opening investment funds in batches in which we'll be collecting certain amount of money (probably 3m EUR in first one). Once this will be filled, we'll be gradually investing into ICOs that will pass our due diligence checks.

tl;dr Anyone participating in ICO will have access to ICONOMI.PERFORMANCE
636  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 04:46:14 PM
I have a question how will other cryptocurrencies be treated (Lisk and Ethereum for example) ? Automatically shifted to BTC or will they stay in LISK and ETH? I'm asking due to price volatility and if someone invests 1000 LISK how will that be handled at the end what if price is doubled or if it goes down as well as FIAT currencies?

Will everything be converted to BTC at the time of deposit?

We'll be accepting Bitcoin, Ethereum (ETH) and Lisk. All the funds will be kept the same way as we receive them.
At the end of ICO, that is on 29th September at 20.00 CET we'll calculate value of investments in EUR and you will then you will know fixed number of ICN tokens.

The same will apply to USD deposits.

Currencies that will be accepted via Shapeshift will be converted to BTC at the time of sending them and kept in BTC>


637  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 01:14:18 PM
That depends on if you are long in BTC or not.

If you invest 10 BTC and we do refunding then you will receive all 10 BTC back. Now if you care if they are worth more or less in a few months that depends on you.

Long enough to recall the swing between $30 & $1K Wink

Ethereum lost quite a lot when after their ICO the BTC dropped down to $200.... But that's the risk to take when dealing with crypto... Isn't it?

Swings could be up or down. But if coins lose value after ICO risk is ours. One of the reasons why we're also accepting fiat currencies. To hedge against short term volatility risk.

Buy yeah. Crypto is fun always!:)
638  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 10:54:53 AM
How can we keep track of how the crowdsale is progressing?
Will you post periodic updates here as key funding milestones are crossed?


Sale hasn't started yet - it starts in 3 days and I'm pretty sure everything will be transparent for everyone to check (funds collected, ...)

Everything will be transparent.

We'll publish all our collecting addresses. One for BTC, one for ETH and one for LSK. For fiat deposits we'll periodically make videos from bank interface because that's the best we can do for fiat. To show you deposited money.

Crypto deposits will be best to test then. Like send small amount and check on blockexplorer as it lands depositing collecting address.
639  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [PRE-ANN] ICONOMI - Financial Services for the Decentralised Economy. on: August 22, 2016, 09:51:11 AM
OP must have a organize road map for this project. i think visual road map is good for easily understand the program of the project.
i will invest later once i have my funds.  Wink

I agree with you. I also can't see any roadmap in the main thread, road map is most important thing for a new altcoin project.. with the road mape users will better know that what/which development when will be done,,

BTW ICO time is announced but there are a lot more thing which need A proper roadmap.
like, Desktop wallet, mobile wallet, mining pool, listed ot the exchange etc, need a roadmap.

OP please give attention there,

Check the visualised road map above your post. Is that what ur looking for?
640  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform on: August 22, 2016, 08:16:13 AM
I am interested in translation bounty, what does 100 stakes mean? 100 coins? Or total coins/total stake= 1 stake, and we get 100*1 stake coin?

Your question got answered earlier:

It's calculated differently. Actually even better for you.

400k tokens will be proportionally distributed to all the stakes collected in translation and moderation bounty.
If you do translation you receive 100 stakes. Then for each post in your local thread you get 5 more stakes.

Example:
- you do translation: 100 stakes
- your local thread receives 50 posts. Then you also get 50x5 stakes = 250 stakes

That way your total stakes are 350.

If all the stakes earned for translation and moderation are 5000. Then your share is 350/5000 stakes. 5000 stakes equals to 400k ICN tokens.
That means that each stake is worth 80 tokens.

In the example above you would receive 28,000 ICN (80 x 350) tokens for your translation and keeping the thread alive.


Thanks a lot sir. And I just found the OP said this project has a 2000 BTC lowest target, if we can't gather 2000 BTC after the deadline, so we won't be paid a translation bounty?

Hmm, let me think about it, this translation bounty may be risky of unpaid.    Shocked Shocked

If you think we might have hard time raising 2k BTC then you should wait for us to collect at least 2k btc and u'll be on a safe side. But then ur risk is that someone else will do translation instead. And probably u can get more activity in the thread if you start sonner. But of course, all up to u:)
Pages: « 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 [32] 33 34 35 »
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!