Go betcoin! I wrote up a short plug at allentownbitcoins (dot) come /bitcoin/reviews/
Hi, I urge you to read this thread for the sake of whoever visits your website: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.0Feel free to pm if you have any questions. |
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ok jorjito25/Karl Perkin
i believe you
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This guy is just trying to make money from your signups all.
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Lupin just left neg feedback for Karl Perkin/jorjito25 which helped me realize they have third alt MrMoney2 Probably messing something up or maybe you already got him somewhere, let me know - just trying to help. Noticed this thread earlier "Poker Group" Those Who likes poker please PM me.
Im offering a good oportunity to create a nice group of ppl that likes to enjoy and have a bit of fun.
U will get the instructions to get into the group.
The group will be created on an APP where u can get profits and the first 20 will also get 5 mBTC to play on a poker site!!
I responded, he sent me this pm (link is irrelevant) Linked MrMoney2 with jorijito25 same name in this post with "Jorge_Ayala" And see Lupin gave him neg feedback today with alt Karl Perkin Reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1366174.msg13937287#msg13937287 |
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Does fortune jack sig = employee or player in sig campaign? Do you get paid extra for attacking people who make suggestions or complaints? The issues Fortune Jack isn't ignoring they are making vague statements like this one: Is this the "clear opnion falconer speaks of? We strongly advice to our players to refrain from getting involved into various bots, since this might be the reason for hacking their accounts. Please be on the secure side. Thank you. They're saying don't use various bots since you could get hacked. Theyre not saying "we've looked into your request and decided this other bot you want is not safe" Fj has stated their opinions about this clearly and I dont think they will change it anytime sooner
If I missed it somewhere else I apologize, but I think I'm assuming correctly that you're just being a bully. I have no idea what this dice bot even is btw. |
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Your terms are insane. Is this a mistake? You advertise as anonymous casino....
https://poker.fortunejack.com/terms.htmlBy entering the Freeroll Tournaments, players agree that their real names, aliases and images can be used for promotional purposes. If it is determined that the Player has not complied with the rules of the promotion, and/or has provided false or misleading information about his or her identity, reserves the right to disqualify the player. In order to be eligible a player must setup a real money account, which includes his full contact details, so that we can pay any winnings to this real money account. Any / ALL Winnings from a Freeroll must generate an equal amount of rake of that particular tournaments' win ONLY.For those Players who reach a cumulative total of $1000 in deposits, withdrawals or transfers, we require that their identification be confirmed by providing us with identification verification documents. Please contact support@foutunejack.com for more details. To facilitate the security checks, you agree to provide such identification or other information or documentation (including but not limited to copies of a valid passport/identity card, Government issued ID, bank statements and utility bills) as the Company, in its unfettered discretion, deems necessary. If you fail to comply with any security request, the Company reserves the right to void your Account. You will be notified of such verification request by electronic mail or telephone and Account Balances will be forfeited if you do not sign and return any required affidavit of identity and eligibility, release of liability and/or publicity authorization.
you are not a resident of Afghanistan, Antigua and Barbuda, Bulgaria, China, Cuba, Cyprus, Estonia, France and its territories, Hong Kong, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Italy, Australia, Kahnawake, Libya, Macau, Netherlands Antilles, Republic of Serbia, Sudan, Syria, The Philippines, Turkey, and/or The United States of America and its territories; We reserve the right to make checks on you, including credit checks, with third party credit and financial institutions, in accordance with the information you have provided us with. We may at any time disclose certain personal information of yours to third partiesResidents of USA ,Italy, Australia and Singapore are not permitted to play using the software, accounts of residents of these countries will be closed and any balance void.wtf? |
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He is just sending out affiliate links to getgems.com requiring a phone number to do anything (he gets reward if you enter phone #)
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I'm interested in more details.
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Yesterday there were a couple new accounts making their first posts in Betcoins thread explaining why they enjoyed Betcoin. This was after I outed Ftwbtc1 and Noobtc as shills when I noticed ftwbtc1 made a post on Betcoin forum that was almost identical to a post Noobtc made on BitcoinTalk within ~10 minutes of each other. One of them was made by a player I was friendly with and staked a couple times in the past. He was broke and made the post because Andrew offered him a ticket into their nightly .05 BTC buyin tournament. It was all in spanish, here's the skype translation and screen shot. Andrew Betcoin:
I will give you a daily ticket, but you must write a review about Betcoin and tell people why you enjoy playing at Betcoin in Spanish. This review will then be posted on a forum. Please do it here in this ticket first. xxlx2014: Bro u remember help me 100 chips and i returned back to your name 147 i not ripper how jonny or trill for trill and jonny recived some some much chips to betcoin and never return me all time i returned Andrew Betcoin:
I'll give you a ticket for a day, but you should write a comment on Bitcoin and tell people why do you like to play the Betcoin in Spanish. This review would include later in a forum. Please do it here in this ticket.xxlx2014: Hi I could play on many other websites, but I stayed here with you because plo8 andrew stuart brent danny, with the George I've peeled but now we're all good mR paul is not now but I have all my respect in short and I have some friend and I say because I go on other website here I have played a lot of money I lost I've won I've raised more than 1000 chips to FREE players as you could check or If you don't take it out I of history and I have nothing to say just this Thanks and see we walk forward all together and United no tricks and fools! Thank you xxlx2014: This is day when I have and day are when I have no I ask for help 100 200 chips and give it back in a few days you know well betcoin once you have helped me and I've returned more but never look at me not help me return is normal not like others to trill to jonny has asked many times and has never returned but in the end this is Andrew Betcoin:
Post in this forum is at the bottom in the answers and I'll give you a bonus ticket:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=281850.1300Hi I could play on many other websites, but I stayed here with you because plo8 andrew stuart brent danny, with the George I've peeled but now we're all good mR paul is not now but I have all my respect in short and I have some friend and I say because I go on other website here I have played a lot of money I lost I've won I've raised more than 1000 chips to FREE players as you could check or If you don't take it out I of history and I have nothing to say just this Thanks and see we walk forward all together and United no tricks and fools! Thank you xxlx2014: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=281850.new#new donate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=281850.new#new donate
Andrew Betcoin:
I have added a daily coin ticket. Good luck. xxlx2014: OK thx now i unbaned you ) i kidding but tiki tiki Betcoin Andrew: Thank you.  |
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So this Jessica says adding many new players everyday...but the players at the cash tables don't go up for over a year since they went up due to Seals closed for a while..so:
So either 2 things must be going on:
1. Jessica is lying or,
2. There are as many players leaving as coming in new.
Cause the number of cash players in tables has not gone up for a year now and it actually may be going down a little bit.
12 players on 2 cash tables now....so where are all these new players...are they invisible?
On 11/30 (Tue/Wed) their 7 day average was 28 players with a 24 hour peak of 50 players. 2/19 (Thur/Fri) their 7 day average is 30 players with a 24 hour peak of 55 players.  Got a lovely pm from them recently: The staff looks at all the work you put in and appreciates your work ethic and commitment. You really should be earning good bitcoin and building equity instead of having everything deleted from Betcoin or moved to the next page of the forum as more posts are added. Ultimately, you just waste time while keeping Betcoin on the front page of the thread which means more traffic, more signature campaign members, etc. We think you have a strong work ethic and could be a great contributor as you once were. The amount of time and energy you have put in so far is truly remarkable. It shows us that we have something special because every great company has people this passionate, but we want to channel your passion to help you more as you once were a great member of the community. We look forward to your thoughts.
I totally believe you.
Just stop deleting my posts, unban my account and send whatever you think I should be paid here: 1KNaiM4KPUjjR2PZAJuNxS7ukMgRZgHcJv
I promise to continue sharing my opinion with you and everyone else either way.
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I'm agreeing with you that Gambling can be profitable in the long run.
But you try to prove this by using an example of how one might win in the short term.
To be profitable in the long run, all you need is an edge and a bankroll.
If you play that slot machine with a 1% house edge, no matter what, you will not win in the long run.
Get it?
But even with a negative edge you can be profitable in the long run, because you dont need to be for infinity. The EV theory only applies to infinite sample size. But in the finite world (reality) you can have a lucky winning streak, or just a variance temporarly (which can last your lifetime) tilted in your favor. The end EV is negative, but the local EV can be positive. I saw casinos go bankrupt, there was a casino near my house ,that got closed a few years ago because a slot machine player won big and the stupid owner didnt have enough cash to pay his rent after he paid out the winner. So maybe not Caesars but smaller casinos still go bankrupt. There is no official definition for "long run" so I guess I's pointless to debate what the "long run" even is. Generally though, when someone refers to the "long run" in gambling, they are referring to a sample size that is big enough so that the variance is minimal. Here are the results of a simulation of 100 users making 1,000 even money bets with a 49.5% chance to win. (The house edge is 1%) The green line is the theoretical value.  There are almost the same amount of winners and losers. But if they were to do that 99 times more (or for 100,000 bets total) They are all clearly losing at least 3-400 bets.  The second one could be considered the long run, the first should not. (I stole these from dooglus' post, he was using them to prove a different point and pokerdope isn't working right now) |
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(I could easily be a billion or so off somewhere)
Nobody gambles a billion dollar. Or have a billion simulations. Most of us wont even have 5000 in total, so the sample size is too big. Nobody reaches long run. Which is why we have to use math. The bigger and bigger the sample size gets, the closer and closer the result will be to our theoretical value. Bigger sample size = More accurate. The bigger the sample size of your life is, the closer you get to death, and at some point it becomes inevitable. So what that doesnt mean you cant live a good life? Based on your logic, you should also be able to win big in a casino, in a limited amount of time. IN REALITY THERE IS NO INFINITY, ONLY LIMITED TIME!!!!!I'm agreeing with you that Gambling can be profitable in the long run. But you try to prove this by using an example of how one might win in the short term. To be profitable in the long run, all you need is an edge and a bankroll. If you play that slot machine with a 1% house edge, no matter what, you will not win in the long run. Get it? |
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hola yo podria jugar en muchos otros website , pero me he quedado aqui con vosotros porque plo8 andrew stuart brent danny , con el George me he pelado pero ahora estamos bien todo bueno  mR paul ahora no es pero le tengo todo mi respecto en fin y tengo algunos amigo y digo porque ir en otros website aqui he jugado mucho dinero he perdido he ganado he recaudado mas de 1000 chips a jugadores GRATIS como ustedes podrias comprobar o si no lo saco yo de historial y no tengo nada de decir solo esto Gracias y veremos andamos adelante todos junto y unidos sin trucos y tontos ! Gracias Just in case anyone actually thought this was an authentic review.... Reality: (Translated to English with Skype) Andrew Betcoin: I will give you a daily1 day 4 hours ago I will give you a daily ticket, but you must write a review about Betcoin and tell people why you enjoy playing at Betcoin in Spanish. This review will then be posted on a forum. Please do it here in this ticket first. 0 reply xxlx2014: bro u remember help me 100 chips and i returned back to your1 day 147 4 hours ago Bro u remember help me 100 chips and i returned back to your name 147 i not ripper how jonny or trill for trill and jonny recived some some much chips to betcoin and never return me all time i returned 0 reply Andrew Betcoin: I'll give you a ticket of A1 day 4 hours ago I'll give you a ticket for a day, but you should write a comment on Bitcoin and tell people why do you like to play the Betcoin in Spanish. This review would include later in a forum. Please do it here in this passage. 0 reply xxlx2014: Hi I could play in many other website1 day 4 hours ago Hi I could play on many other websites, but I stayed here with you because plo8 andrew stuart brent danny, with the George I've peeled but now we're all good mR paul is not now but I have all my respect in short and I have some friend and I say because I go on other website here I have played a lot of money I lost I've won I've raised more than 1000 chips to FREE players as you could check or If you don't take it out I of history and I have nothing to say just this Thanks and see we walk forward all together and United no tricks and fools! Thank you 0 reply xxlx2014: this is are day when I have and day when I don't have ask for ayuda1 day 4 hours ago This is day when I have and day are when I have no I ask for help 100 200 chips and give it back in a few days you know well betcoin once you have helped me and I've returned more but never look at me not help me return is normal not like others to trill to jonny has asked many times and has never returned but in the end this is 0 reply Andrew Betcoin: publish in this forum this en1 day 3 hours ago Post in this forum is at the bottom in the answers and I'll give you a bonus ticket: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=281850.1300Hi I could play on many other websites, but I stayed here with you because plo8 andrew stuart brent danny, with the George I've peeled but now we're all good mR paul is not now but I have all my respect in short and I have some friend and I say because I go on other website here I have played a lot of money I lost I've won I've raised more than 1000 chips to FREE players as you could check or If you don't take it out I of history and I have nothing to say just this Thanks and see we walk forward all together and United no tricks and fools! Thank you 0 reply xxlx2014: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=281850.new#new donate 1 day 3 hours ago https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=281850.new#new donate 0 reply Andrew Betcoin: I have added a daily coin1 day 3 hours ago I have added a daily coin ticket. Good luck. 0 reply xxlx2014: ok thx 1 day 3 hours ago OK thx now i unbaned you ) i kidding but tiki tiki 0 reply Betcoin Andrew: Thank you .1 day 3 hours ago Thank you.  |
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Everyone in this thread saying gambling makes them money are only fooling themselves. Are you guys accounting for the losses versus the wins? I'm sure if you add everything up you've lost more than won. You may as well do binary options, at leas you have some prediction.
Binary options...also gambling. |
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I sent a pm about the carribean stud payouts/advertised house edge 2 weeks ago because they were so eager to fix the video poker payout mistakes I found last month. I got a quick response saying thery would send it over to the "poker dudes" but nothing has changed 2 weeks later. Maybe because Caribbean stud isn't poker, but either way, I guess I should of just posted it so the players knew
I believe your royal flush payout is off for Caribbean Stud. It's listed as paying 50-1, the same as any straight flush. It should be 100-1. Also, it's worth noting that even if the payout were corrected, your auto-bet option would increase the house edge from 5.224% to 16.607% Currently, the auto-bet simply raises 100% of hands, even when the player has a 0% chance of winning. Perfect strategy would probably take an unnecessary amount of effort to program, but I think it would be reasonable and likely easy to program the feature to only raise if the player is dealt any pair or better, and fold everything else. This strategy puts the house edge at 5.47% http://wizardofodds.com/games/caribbean-stud-poker/ [/quote] |
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I don't think using a VPN should get a player banned either.
IMO, it would be pretty difficult to know a real player from an alt. Can't comment.
Using a VPN doesn't get you banned and isn't against the rules. If you use a VPN for promos that offer freerolls or no deposits though, you might disqualify yourself from the promotions. This is his second tantrum about not being able to freeroll the site while using a VPN. He's probably trying to qualify for the same promotion many many times and keeps getting busted. BTW, I'm not violating any of your terms including multiple accounts, so it's straight up slander for you to suggest it.
Slander is when you say something which is false which damages someones rep. I think you were looking for libel, which refers is when you use written words to damage someones reputation. Your reputation isn't really affected though, since you were known for doing this kind of thing already. |
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(I could easily be a billion or so off somewhere)
Nobody gambles a billion dollar. Or have a billion simulations. Most of us wont even have 5000 in total, so the sample size is too big. Nobody reaches long run. Which is why we have to use math. The bigger and bigger the sample size gets, the closer and closer the result will be to our theoretical value. Bigger sample size = More accurate. THey do. Long run is the time not the money. You can bet $1 a day for a year and call it a long run. So whats the minimum long run then? Can they bet $1 a day for 6 months and call it a long run? a week? 2 days? |
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(I could easily be a billion or so off somewhere)
Nobody gambles a billion dollar. Or have a billion simulations. Most of us wont even have 5000 in total, so the sample size is too big. Nobody reaches long run. Which is why we have to use math. The bigger and bigger the sample size gets, the closer and closer the result will be to our theoretical value. Bigger sample size = More accurate. |
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Sending BTC for Paypal per chat.
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Its of course possible to have profit on a long term, but most likely the people will not make profit at all by it.
At gambling you always need luck and the most people do not have this luck so you will lose money.
You are contradicting your own words. It is as you said - gambling=some random occurrences, you don't have influence over, therefore outcome can't be predicted or controlled. You can be lucky for a short period of time and profit, you can probably be almost even for a longer periods. But in the end you only can diminish the losses while gambling everyday. You just contradicted your own words after explaining how he contradicted his! therefore outcome can't be predicted Then you predict one can only lose n the end you only can diminish the losses Gambling does not exclusively apply to making bets with negative expectation. If a gambler is able to manage his money properly and find enough bets where the edge is in his favor, at the end of his life he will be profitable. Even though he may have had a couple losing years... |
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