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[justbc]

If your team would of lost would you have demanded they take the bet you were trying to place even though it rejected it? I don't think so.

Shit happens.

No, I'd be emailing them to get the bet refunded because that was the point of the promotion. If you lose, you get it refunded. I should note that you had to email them in order to get it refunded -- so it's highly likely some players would lose and forget / not know to do this and be out their stake. I find this in itself to be slightly unethical -- why not just automatically refund the losing parlays?

And obviously a bigger problem is they weren't accepting any optimal winning bets.

There's another huge problem with your trolling here though -- MY BET WON!!! Your trolling is not only wrong, it's unfounded.

You trolls are all the same... but thanks for the bumps! It's great that this conversation is staying at the forefront, as I'll make sure it does for many weeks to come.

Also, thanks to Seal for pointing out the Betcoin shill account. I suspected as much myself.

[TwitchySeal]

No, I'd be emailing them to get the bet refunded because that was the point of the promotion.

You withdrew your entire balance without ever placing the bet.  What would there be to refund?

And obviously a bigger problem is they weren't accepting any optimal winning bets.

I don't understand.  They didn't accept your bet.  

What makes it obvious they aren't accepting any winning bets?  

By "winning bet" are you saying you found a lot of value in their price, and you accusing them of not accepting the bet because they don't like their own line?  

This is completely different than not paying a bet which was accepted.  Accusing them of both doesn't seem logical.

Were you referring to the promo which basically made it a 100 mbtc freeroll?

I don't think the promotion should be considered when deciding whether or not the bet should count or not.  The promo clearly has terms that are seperate from the sports book, so not all users are eligible.  

The last complaint you had was after you used a VPN to claim a no deposit bonus.  Did you use a VPN when trying take advantage of this promotion too?

This promotion is similiar, it essentially offers anyone who can make a bet a 100mbtc freeroll.  Obviously they wouldn't allow someone to just use a VPN and make as many 100 mbtc as they want.

Terms from this promotion:




Terms from last promotion, which you used a VPN for then had a tantrum when they wouldn't pay you:

Also, thanks to Seal for pointing out the Betcoin shill account. I suspected as much myself.

No problem.

I have to point out though that you are using some of the same illogical tactics to make your argument that Betcoin management and their shills do by referring to me as just a troll, or my posts "spam".  THey have also went out of their way to tell me how much money I'm making them by posting evidence in their thread which proves they have done something scummy again.   Here's the pm I got from them yesterday:

The staff looks at all the work you put in and appreciates your work ethic and commitment.  You really should be earning good bitcoin and building equity instead of having everything deleted from Betcoin or moved to the next page of the forum as more posts are added.  Ultimately, you just waste time while keeping Betcoin on the front page of the thread which means more traffic, more signature campaign members, etc.  We think you have a strong work ethic and could be a great contributor as you once were.  The amount of time and energy you have put in so far is truly remarkable.  It shows us that we have something special because every great company has people this passionate, but we want to channel your passion to help you more as you once were a great member of the community.  We look forward to your thoughts.

same tactic as this:

Guys Trolls, thanks for the bumps. As long as you keep topping the thread it's a win for me and a loss for BitCasino.

I'm intending to keep posting a daily update as long as humanly possible or until they pay me my winnings. So I hope you stick around and keep bumping it up.

Thanks  

and this:

You trolls are all the same... but thanks for the bumps! It's great that this conversation is staying at the forefront, as I'll make sure it does for many weeks to come.

Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are just a troll.  
When you thank these people for the bumps, your childish attempt at reverse psychology is pretty bad.

[bitcasino.io]

Hello guys!

For this specific promotion we refunded over 100 players and hopefully someone of them will confirm it in this thread. We all understand that this promo was a 100% freeroll, where players can get additional value. Nowadays we have quite a lot of such promotions - for sport events, casino games or public raffles. For example, within VIP lottery we increased prize pool to already 55 BTC, just because last time nobody won it: https://bitcasino.io/raffle/vip-monthly-lotto

So coming back to moneyback promotion, I'm not sure why your bet was rejected by the system (maybe the reason was VPN, what is against official policy), but we don't really understand your complain - you want us to return the bet what you didn't make in the end? Unfortunately we can't do this and probably all readers of this thread can understand it as well (thanks to TwitchySeal for additional explanation!).

[TwitchySeal]

(maybe the reason was VPN, what is against official policy)

I wasn't aware of any rule against VPN.  Can you show where it says that?

[mrgambool]

(maybe the reason was VPN, what is against official policy)

I wasn't aware of any rule against VPN.  Can you show where it says that?

I think the OP was referring to multi-accounting using VPN to bypass certain security measures. Like the "One entry to a promotion per IP/household/etc.".

[bitcasino.io]

(maybe the reason was VPN, what is against official policy)

I wasn't aware of any rule against VPN.  Can you show where it says that?

VPN opens opportunities to launch any possible amount of accounts what is against our rules and actually what was abused by this specific user multiply times (not only by IP actually). In the same time, using VPN could cause additional issues with functionality of the site, while we have different rules for different locations (like we don't accept players from certain countries and some of our functions are not working within specific regions).  

And additionally for justbc - bonus terms:
"All bonuses are limited to one person per household address and IP address. Any attempt to try to deceive Bitcasino.io by registering multiple accounts to gain bonus money will be deemed as bonus abuse and will result in the account(s) being suspended and the removal of your funds."

[TwitchySeal]

(maybe the reason was VPN, what is against official policy)

I wasn't aware of any rule against VPN.  Can you show where it says that?

I think the OP was referring to multi-accounting using VPN to bypass certain security measures. Like the "One entry to a promotion per IP/household/etc.".

Probably,

But unclear responses about official policies are rays of hope for those who are trying to get away with something.

If they dont respond soon, a rant from justbtc is inevitable and he will be even less reasonable.

[TwitchySeal]

(maybe the reason was VPN, what is against official policy)

I wasn't aware of any rule against VPN.  Can you show where it says that?

VPN opens opportunities to launch any possible amount of accounts what is against our rules and actually what was abused by this specific user multiply times (not only by IP actually). In the same time, using VPN could cause additional issues with functionality of the site, while we have different rules for different locations (like we don't accept players from certain countries and some of our functions are not working within specific regions).  

And additionally for justbc - bonus terms:
"All bonuses are limited to one person per household address and IP address. Any attempt to try to deceive Bitcasino.io by registering multiple accounts to gain bonus money will be deemed as bonus abuse and will result in the account(s) being suspended and the removal of your funds."

VPNs have many different purposes.  You can't assume that everyone who uses one also has multiple accounts.

I understand why using a VPN could disqualify a user from your promotions like the free bet or a no deposit offer - which is why you make it clear in the specific promotion terms with the ip address rule.

But what about all the bets made that aren't involved in these promotions.  Theres no 1 user per household/ip rule, is there?  Sometimes people who like to gamble with bitcoins live with other people who like to gamble with bitcoins, so I would hope not...

Is the very act of using a VPN a violation of your General T&C?

[bitcasino.io]

(maybe the reason was VPN, what is against official policy)

I wasn't aware of any rule against VPN.  Can you show where it says that?

VPN opens opportunities to launch any possible amount of accounts what is against our rules and actually what was abused by this specific user multiply times (not only by IP actually). In the same time, using VPN could cause additional issues with functionality of the site, while we have different rules for different locations (like we don't accept players from certain countries and some of our functions are not working within specific regions).  

And additionally for justbc - bonus terms:
"All bonuses are limited to one person per household address and IP address. Any attempt to try to deceive Bitcasino.io by registering multiple accounts to gain bonus money will be deemed as bonus abuse and will result in the account(s) being suspended and the removal of your funds."

VPNs have many different purposes.  You can't assume that everyone who uses one also has multiple accounts.

I understand why using a VPN could disqualify a user from your promotions like the free bet or a no deposit offer - which is why you make it clear in the specific promotion terms with the ip address rule.

But what about all the bets made that aren't involved in these promotions.  Theres no 1 user per household/ip rule, is there?  Sometimes people who like to gamble with bitcoins live with other people who like to gamble with bitcoins, so I would hope not...

Is the very act of using a VPN a violation of your General T&C?

We are not against players who are using VPN's. We are against players who have multiply accounts - this statement based not only on a VPN use, we have quite heavy anti-fraud system what gives us more information than just similar IP's.

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[Kprawn]

Hey, just want to thank the people at BitCasino for the great raffles recently. I was one of the winners and I have to say their new raffles are much

better than their previous promotions. There are ZERO rollover requirements and immediate withdrawals of the winnings is possible at any time.

I like the wide selection of games at this casino a lot. Keep up the good work.... The Valentine Poem to the Help desk was a fun twist. 

[ndnh]

I just won 3 x 100 mBTC   in the Valentine's day promo! Many thanks xD

[justbc]

*** WARNING ALL PLAYERS ***

BitCasino may cheat you like they did to me!

Here's the short version of what happened:

• BitCasino sends me a promo asking me to make a multibet on Juventus / Napoli and Arsenal / Leicester. So I decide to give them another chance in spite of the fact that they did not honor my sportsbook winnings previously. (seized the funds which were fairly won in the sportsbook, see below)
• I try to make the wager, Juventus X Arsenal (90 min) repeatedly and their system rejects it every time.
• I report it to live chat who doesn't fix the problem but promises to. I get an email follow up promising to fix the problem. I get another email saying the problem is fixed.
• I try to make the same wager, now 7 hours after it was reported. Still their system rejects it.
• My wager, which I clicked submit / "place bet" on over and over, would have won 265 mBTC.
• BitCasino acknowledged that their system was at fault, claiming it had been fixed but it had not.
• BitCasino offers me a lotto ticket to keep me quiet about this, claiming it's worth 250 mBTC. But this is a lie -- the actual value is nowhere near that.

I wanted to keep this post relatively short because I'm going to repost it every single day in an effort to steer players away from BitCasino. However if you want to see the full, documented and evidenced logs of what happened, please follow this link: Full Evidence.

*On a previous occasion I won almost 200 mBTC fair and square in their sportsbook and the funds were seized when I cashed out. They claimed that my IP address had been used previously by someone else, which is ridiculous when you understand that IP's are frequently shared and reused as a limited resource (I use a VPN so obviously another person could share mine).

The beat goes on people. To Seal, sorry you spent the time to write me an essay bc TL;DR.

Funny how BitCasino is suggesting that my bet got rejected because of my VPN. Total hogwash and they know it. You already accepted fault for the error AND CLAIMED TO HAVE FIXED IT. So don't backtrack and make up lies about VPN. Hilarious how you say VPN is against your rules and then immediately reverse on it.

Also, saying you refunded 100 losing bets in the promo is funny because it shows that you were ACCEPTING LOSING WAGERS -- mine was the best possible winning wager. Even if you were accepting some winning wagers from other players (possible but so far unproven, and even if someone claims they won it still doesn't prove anything), you still rejected mine every single time over the course of 7 hours including my attempts after you admitted fault and said you fixed it.

That's cheating folks.

BTW, I'm not violating any of your terms including multiple accounts, so it's straight up slander for you to suggest it.

Stay Classy BitCasino.

[ndnh]

Even if you were accepting some winning wagers from other players (possible but so far unproven, and even if someone claims they won it still doesn't prove anything), you still rejected mine every single time over the course of 7 hours including my attempts after you admitted fault and said you fixed it.

To state my experience, I have both losing bets and winning bets on the no-risk promotion till date. Except a delay on crediting the amount on a lost bet (just once, did not face any such issue later) I am personally quite happy with their service.

What do you mean by the site rejecting the bet? It didn't go through? I never had such an issue till now. Have you tried a different browser?

BTW, I'm not violating any of your terms including multiple accounts, so it's straight up slander for you to suggest it.

I don't think using a VPN should get a player banned either.
IMO, it would be pretty difficult to know a real player from an alt. Can't comment.

[TwitchySeal]

I don't think using a VPN should get a player banned either.
IMO, it would be pretty difficult to know a real player from an alt. Can't comment.

Using a VPN doesn't get you banned and isn't against the rules.

If you use a VPN for promos that offer freerolls or no deposits though, you might disqualify yourself from the promotions.

This is his second tantrum about not being able to freeroll the site while using a VPN.  He's probably trying to qualify for the same promotion many many times and keeps getting busted.

BTW, I'm not violating any of your terms including multiple accounts, so it's straight up slander for you to suggest it.

Slander is when you say something which is false which damages someones rep.

I think you were looking for libel, which refers is when you use written words to damage someones reputation.

Your reputation isn't really affected though, since you were known for doing this kind of thing already.

[iigor]

Help, i cant register.
Its telling me that im not 18 years old even if i put year 1950. 
And im 22 years old.

[cryptosmoker]

I think this must be justbtc time for menstruation.  This was his final post before going back to the hole he came from almost exactly one month ago...

But here's the thing: I USE A VPN ALWAYS AND EVERY TIME I'M ON THE INTERNET FOR SECURITY AND PRIVACY. It's a well known, popular VPN, and I simply connect to the server with the lowest ping. So obviously someone else could be using TigerVPN and betting with BitCasino.

I don't take being stolen from lightly -- so I'm going to keep posting about this in BitCasino's thread until they decide to pay me.

(nice job bro)

Don't worry everyone, hes almost finished...(for 28 days at least)

[Kakmakr]

I just won 3 x 100 mBTC   in the Valentine's day promo! Many thanks xD

How did you manage that, if all the prices were 100mBTC? I won nothing and I had 2 out of the 3 tickets you could get? The rules states 1 per household / IP address. This is a bit unfair, is it not? The guy who introduced me to this casino won 100mBTC so I am happy for him.

Oh, well Congrats. ^hmmm^

[Trayber]

I just won 3 x 100 mBTC   in the Valentine's day promo! Many thanks xD

How did you manage that, if all the prices were 100mBTC? I won nothing and I had 2 out of the 3 tickets you could get? The rules states 1 per household / IP address. This is a bit unfair, is it not? The guy who introduced me to this casino won 100mBTC so I am happy for him.

Oh, well Congrats. ^hmmm^

You could get up to 3 tickets to the raffle. He got lucky and hit on all 3 of his tickets. I had 3 tickets and won 2x 100mbtc. Most won once and some won nothing at all. Luck of the draw.

[dupeddonk]

Help, i cant register.
Its telling me that im not 18 years old even if i put year 1950. 
And im 22 years old.

try 1994