I sent a pm about the carribean stud payouts/advertised house edge 2 weeks ago because they were so eager to fix the video poker payout mistakes I found last month.

I got a quick response saying thery would send it over to the "poker dudes" but nothing has changed 2 weeks later.  Maybe because Caribbean stud isn't poker, but either way, I guess I should of just posted it so the players knew

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I believe your royal flush payout is off for Caribbean Stud.  It's listed as paying 50-1, the same as any straight flush.  It should be 100-1.

Also, it's worth noting that even if the payout were corrected, your auto-bet option would increase the house edge from 5.224% to 16.607%

Currently, the auto-bet simply raises 100% of hands, even when the player has a 0% chance of winning.

Perfect strategy would probably take an unnecessary amount of effort to program, but I think it would be reasonable and likely easy to program the feature to only raise if the player is dealt any pair or better, and fold everything else.  This strategy puts the house edge at 5.47%

http://wizardofodds.com/games/caribbean-stud-poker/


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Using a VPN doesn't get you banned and isn't against the rules.

If you use a VPN for promos that offer freerolls or no deposits though, you might disqualify yourself from the promotions.

This is his second tantrum about not being able to freeroll the site while using a VPN.  He's probably trying to qualify for the same promotion many many times and keeps getting busted.



Slander is when you say something which is false which damages someones rep.

I think you were looking for libel, which refers is when you use written words to damage someones reputation.

Your reputation isn't really affected though, since you were known for doing this kind of thing already.

So whats the minimum long run then?

Can they bet $1 a day for 6 months and call it a long run?

a week?

2 days?

Nobody reaches long run. Which is why we have to use math.

The bigger and bigger the sample size gets, the closer and closer the result will be to our theoretical value.  Bigger sample size = More  accurate.

Sending BTC for Paypal per chat.

You just contradicted your own words after explaining how he contradicted his!



Then you predict one can only lose



Gambling does not exclusively apply to making bets with negative expectation.

If a gambler is able to manage his money properly and find enough bets where the edge is in his favor, at the end of his life he will be profitable.  Even though he may have had a couple losing years...

OPs Example was for one day



But his Topic said "long run"

The long run will never be reached, but 1,000,000 days is closer than 1:



If this 1,000,000 day simulation were run 1,000,000 times, the chance of either player group winning one single time is less than is less than 900,000,000,000:1

So you would have to run ( 1 million simulations 1 million times ) ~900,000,000,000 times for a 50% chance of either group finishing a 1 million day simulation winning 1 or more pennies.

(I could easily be a billion or so off somewhere)

Hopefully you checked with them first, they shouldn't have to choose between rearranging their schedule and finishing a tournament that was scheduled to finish on another day.  (just distribute the prizepool based on chip counts, trust me - its the only fair option...unless they all agree on a time)

Also, if players were stranded in a paused tournament for 10+ hours, and your response is that you're "diligently working 24/7 to address your issue", it's probably not a good idea to later claim it was a "minor technical problem"

Unless all players agree on a time to restart, the only option is to chop remaining prizepool according to chip count imo

VPNs have many different purposes.  You can't assume that everyone who uses one also has multiple accounts.

I understand why using a VPN could disqualify a user from your promotions like the free bet or a no deposit offer - which is why you make it clear in the specific promotion terms with the ip address rule.

But what about all the bets made that aren't involved in these promotions.  Theres no 1 user per household/ip rule, is there?  Sometimes people who like to gamble with bitcoins live with other people who like to gamble with bitcoins, so I would hope not...

Is the very act of using a VPN a violation of your General T&C?

Probably,

But unclear responses about official policies are rays of hope for those who are trying to get away with something.

If they dont respond soon, a rant from justbtc is inevitable and he will be even less reasonable.

I wasn't aware of any rule against VPN.  Can you show where it says that?

You withdrew your entire balance without ever placing the bet.  What would there be to refund?





I don't understand.  They didn't accept your bet.  

What makes it obvious they aren't accepting any winning bets?  

By "winning bet" are you saying you found a lot of value in their price, and you accusing them of not accepting the bet because they don't like their own line?  

This is completely different than not paying a bet which was accepted.  Accusing them of both doesn't seem logical.

Were you referring to the promo which basically made it a 100 mbtc freeroll?

I don't think the promotion should be considered when deciding whether or not the bet should count or not.  The promo clearly has terms that are seperate from the sports book, so not all users are eligible.  

The last complaint you had was after you used a VPN to claim a no deposit bonus.  Did you use a VPN when trying take advantage of this promotion too?

This promotion is similiar, it essentially offers anyone who can make a bet a 100mbtc freeroll.  Obviously they wouldn't allow someone to just use a VPN and make as many 100 mbtc as they want.

Terms from this promotion:




Terms from last promotion, which you used a VPN for then had a tantrum when they wouldn't pay you:









No problem.

I have to point out though that you are using some of the same illogical tactics to make your argument that Betcoin management and their shills do by referring to me as just a troll, or my posts "spam".  THey have also went out of their way to tell me how much money I'm making them by posting evidence in their thread which proves they have done something scummy again.   Here's the pm I got from them yesterday:


same tactic as this:


and this:


Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are just a troll.  
When you thank these people for the bumps, your childish attempt at reverse psychology is pretty bad.

Assuming I was illiterate because I didn't find your explanation clear would not be the best assumption...Especially considering you were able to read the response I wrote, which was in English, after reading your post, also in English.

I wasn't sure I understood because I don't see why someone would think they should be paid for a bet that wasn't accepted.  

This is like saying they offered you a line of credit, without telling you. It also opens them up to being exploited.

The only way I could see a situation where anyone would expect to be paid for a bet which wasn't accepted by the system would be if they were clearly told by support "We have accept your bet of XX btc on XX to win X match on X date/time" and then took the funds from your account, or told you that you could make the bet on credit.

Also, I think you posted the wrong link for "FULL EVIDENCE", the only thing I see is this:

just realizxed i can click through, looking at evidence now

Ok, so you're trying to say you were assuming they had accepted your bet when you sent this email?



Also if this is true:



Shouldn't you be asking for 265mbt x However many bets you made?

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I do have one issue with how bitcasino behaved.  Telling players that a ticket to that lottery is worth 250mbtc is simply not true.  The lottery basically has 4 non progressive jackpots.  If they were progressive, the value would be around 60 mbtc.

I don't know the exact details of the draw, but if nobody hits 5 of 5 numbers, the casino keeps 40 Bitcoin for themselves.  Last month they paid a total of 7.5 BTC with over 4000 entrants, nobody  even got 4 of 5. 19 people got 3 of 5 and split 5 Bitcoin, and 184 got 2 of 5 and split 2.5 Bitcoin.








This is one of Betcoin.ag's shill accounts that I've recently busted IN THIS POST for attacking me with multiple accounts on this forum.  He only made this post because I posted ITT.  (this particular account has a passive aggressive personality)  I suspect he is actually managment for Betcoin, you can read why here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1365849.0  (don't respond ITT please, dont want to derail)

Yes ACR is fine too unless you live in certain countries or US States and dont mind sending in dox.  Also, Bitcoin payouts are not available to all.

Here's what the tournament director said about Betcoin after reading the thread I made here: http://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showthread.php?11404-Betcoin-ag-Scams-Scandals-and-Shadiness-Galore

I'm not sure I understand.

Did your bet ever get accepted?

Were the funds removed from your account before the match?


I might be misunderstanding but are you saying the system rejected your bet, you emailed support who replied its fixed, then it still rejected your bet, now the event is over and you would of won - so you think they should pay out a bet that was rejected?  

That's kind of silly to assume the bet was on and they just extended you a line of credit and the bet would be settled afterwards...

You want the 5dimes Sharktank Poker Room (the grand poker room is much smaller network)

Feel free to pm if any questions. (It's a bit confusing)

Unlike Betcoin, The sites I listed are Official Partners of The Winning Poker Network. 

http://www.winningpokernetwork.com/partners/

Every sunday.

They have a $215 50k and a $530 30k also

Betcoin couldn't think of anything else to spam last weekend I guess they went with this.

I recommend playing them on 5dimes, betdsi or bookmakers if youre looking for a site that doesn't care who you are or where you live and accepts Bitcoins with quick withdraws

@donk4u, ungod is not staff The red arrows are pointing out the fact that ungod is complaining because Betcoin is stealing from others, not himself.

Andrew has cursed before though about how fucking stupid a player is or something.  

Heres onlything i can easily find, and it really doesn't matter - there's nothing unethical about whether or not a particular word is part of someones vocabulary. Lets show some respect to Xiao and not derail this thread.