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6401  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: June 10, 2013, 03:38:29 PM
if kncminer send miners by post office from germany people europe will not have problem with tax

They are a Swedish company with possibly chinese assemblers. I doubt they will send the equipment from Germany, they might as well send it from Sweden.

you can pick it up in stockholm and if not they will ship via ups from sweden.
6402  Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLLLY!! on: June 10, 2013, 03:34:07 PM
it will take off when i finally have my funds in. thought it would be around the 6th of june. got delayed by banks. will be end of the week for sure.

current status:

6403  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnCMiner Openday Wednesday 5th & Monday 10th June on: June 10, 2013, 09:20:03 AM
don´t forget pics of their jupiter prototype.  Shocked
There won't be any prototype for Jupiter or Saturn ...

 Wink
6404  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnCMiner Openday Wednesday 5th & Monday 10th June on: June 10, 2013, 09:16:10 AM
don´t forget pics of their jupiter prototype.  Shocked
6405  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 10, 2013, 09:12:05 AM
Ich hab rausgefunden warum der Kurs steigt! Ich hab bei 72 € verkauft. War ja klar das das das Minimum dann erreicht ist Smiley

es war auf 66 gestern Wink

das gefühl kenne ich: ich kaufe. der preis rauscht ab.
ich verkaufe: der preis steigt wieder.  Roll Eyes
6406  Economy / Speculation / what will the average american bitcoin owner do when he wakes up this ... on: June 09, 2013, 10:54:04 AM
... bloody sunday?

panic sell ?

panic buy ?

panic hold ?



6407  Economy / Speculation / Re: 100 cracked...time to buy?!!? on: June 09, 2013, 09:33:57 AM
I just bought in at $105 Sad , what is the problem that causes this downturn?

lol, i thought i am the only one that feels like this.

i bought massive 2 weeks ago.  Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry
6408  Economy / Speculation / Re: We going back to $30 on: June 09, 2013, 09:31:45 AM
So funny to see people throwing FUD around...

"we are going to $xx.xx"

"we are going down but not to $xx.xx"

"we have no penises wopwopwopwopwopwop"  Tongue

smoothie... do SOMETHING  Cry
6409  Local / Trading und Spekulation / Re: Der Aktuelle Kursverlauf on: June 09, 2013, 06:59:51 AM
scheisse.
6410  Economy / Speculation / Re: [poll] - My Investment portfolio on: June 08, 2013, 10:31:45 PM
you should add the option:

invested in pre-order mining

because a lot of money from a lot of forum members is sitting RIGHT THERE
6411  Local / Mining (Deutsch) / Re: [AVALON BATCH 3 gekauft] BFL 60GHs PREORDER < #1800... INTERESSE? on: June 08, 2013, 09:42:46 PM
Batch 1 hatte auch monate verspätung. Da lief auch nichts perfekt.

hab alles erst ab märz auf´m schirm. vorher kannte ich das forum hier nicht.
6412  Local / Mining (Deutsch) / Re: [AVALON BATCH 3 gekauft] BFL 60GHs PREORDER < #1800... INTERESSE? on: June 08, 2013, 09:38:13 PM
Kurzes Update:

Nüscht neues.
AVALON hat anscheinend Produktionsprobleme.
Da bin ich fast froh daß ich nicht 10.000 chips bestellt hab ^^



lol, ich war auch kurz davor 10 k chips zu bestellen. hatte die kohle schon beinahe zusammen.

aber verstehen tu ich das nicht: batch I lief doch auch ok. und jetzt brauchen sie für batch III länger als sie für batch I brauchten, als sie noch garnicht begonnen hatten. smells fishy. die sind am minen. mit unseren minern. mit unseren bezahlten minern. also: wir haben denen die miner bezahlt, mit denen sie uns nun bestehlen.

ds gibt´s nur bei bitcoin.
6413  Local / Mining (Deutsch) / Re: Avalon Gemeinschaftsprojekt. 3 Geräte = 255 Ghash/s gekauft. on: June 08, 2013, 09:24:48 PM
verkaufe meine 12 anteile für 1.9 btc pro anteil.

bei bitfunder liegen sie bei ca. 2.5
6414  Local / Biete / Re: biete meine 30 anteile an avalon asic mining projekt 255 GH/s on: June 08, 2013, 09:21:36 PM
habe noch 12 anteile an candoos gemeinschaftskauf und bin bereit diese für unter 2 btc pro anteil zu verkaufen.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=194505.msg2019444#msg2019444

habe auch noch 20 anteile (= 25% an einem avalon 85 GH/s order von 2weiX), die möchte ich auch verkaufen.

bei bitfunder stehen die anteile bei ca. 2.5
6415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com on: June 08, 2013, 09:06:04 PM
cui bono ?
the people bitching about knc hate those hashing monsters because they invested in avalon chips or else. if they keep people from buying from knc it pays out. i was about to order big time avalon chips when i stumbled across knc. i decided - in the last moment - to switch. what would my feelings be if i had ordered a few days earlier ? would i hate them... or me?   (on the other hand: i should actually not defend knc. the less they sell, the better for me, since i already did order  )

it is incredible though how soft the community is about avalon and how hatefull some are towards knc. i am invested in avalon batch III and i ordered 500 avalon chips and i regret batch III

in a way the competiteveness of the asic miner producers stains through to us - the customers. keep that in mind while enjoying this show.
(i posted this in the kncminer open day first)

And Bitfury finally announced his ASICs. 2x better hashrate than BFL AND releasing specs for DIY. (waiting on pricing...)

Just waiting on someone to actually deliver sth. Avalon was the best bet, now the game is on for an August release by multiple parties.

Good times.

Bit Fury's actually offering test chips for dev's and those with test facilities, as for reasons I forget now, he is unable to test certain aspects himself. It is a pretty strong sign he is serious though...

Bitfury has several drawbacks:
Only sold in Russia.
Who is going to Russia to claim something.
In its favor:
Metabank.ru part of the project, the web is more important to change Russian bitcoins.

There are many weak links in the Bitfury distribution chain for interested parties outside of Russia.  Don't blame him directly for not wanting to deal with the hassle of customs and customer complaints, but he is offering test chips for devs/DIY hackers outside of Russia, which goes a long way to confirming his intent.

BTW *may have a Jupiter 1-500 guaranteed pre-order (#250), and def have a Saturn guaranteed pre-order (#33) available. If anyone is interested PM me by tomorrow night. It can go towards travel expense/poss hotel of I chose to spend a night in Stockholm. If not come Monday eve it can just mean everyone else gets to shift a spot forward in each item...don't have a price in mind, just best bid by the time I make a final private message check wins, make sure you can pay KnC for Monday though.

you don´t buy knc ?
6416  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnCMiner Openday Wednesday 5th & Monday 10th June on: June 08, 2013, 08:51:19 PM
I just wish as many people put as much effort into creating stores and services that accepted bitcoin in non-mining disciplines and diversified and encouraged the use of spending Bitcoin. That's it's real hurdle into mainstream acceptance; uses of the currency aside hoarding of perceived wealth!

Ironically it's also the fastest route to gaining possession of coins which everyone appears hell bent on!!
(Though by it's very nature takes creativity and effort to discover opportunities and create solutions which is why so many shy away from this critical aspect of Bitcoin).

i wonder what the bitcoin price would be at if all the millions of fiat would not have been thrown towards hardware producers but towards bitcoin itself.
6417  Local / Biete / Re: Community Mining 2. Order KnCMiner Saturn 175 GH/s Warteliste on: June 08, 2013, 08:47:18 PM
Ich war schon etwas enttäuscht, keine hookers und kein Bier!

soweit ich sam verstanden habe, sind welche für den nächsten besuch versprochen...
6418  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: About KNCMiner on: June 08, 2013, 08:44:31 PM
High risk, high rewards.

or, high risk, zero reward.. i think the latter


Yet, you're offering a group shared purchase of their units?!!:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=228707.msg2408244#msg2408244

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=228700.msg2408200#msg2408200


How very hypocritical, and irresponsible of you. What a wonderful person you are! Good luck with that...


So he's really pro KNCMINER. Why the bashing?

**** knows?! Bizarre.

easy: when invested into knc it is bad for your roi when too many people also invest in those machines. it is not only "homo homini lupus est" but also
jupiter jupitii lupus est

you bitcoinorama actually hurt my roi much more than the knc-haters.  Kiss

How's that?!

i was kidding. when knc gets just enough orders to get going, those who will buy those will have a decent roi if difficulty isn´t at 500 mio by september. but if knc gets run over with orders and they decide to push all those orders through 500 mio difficulty will look small. the more jupiters in the universe, the lesser the individual jupiter shines.
(psst: secret plan... after you attend the open day post a big SCAM into the threads. that will rock... & shake off the weak hands...)
6419  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: About KNCMiner on: June 08, 2013, 08:02:15 PM
High risk, high rewards.

or, high risk, zero reward.. i think the latter


Yet, you're offering a group shared purchase of their units?!!:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=228707.msg2408244#msg2408244

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=228700.msg2408200#msg2408200


How very hypocritical, and irresponsible of you. What a wonderful person you are! Good luck with that...


So he's really pro KNCMINER. Why the bashing?

**** knows?! Bizarre.

easy: when invested into knc it is bad for your roi when too many people also invest in those machines. it is not only "homo homini lupus est" but also
jupiter jupitii lupus est

you bitcoinorama actually hurt my roi much more than the knc-haters.  Kiss
6420  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: KnCMiner Openday Wednesday 5th & Monday 10th June on: June 08, 2013, 07:33:31 PM
I attempted to pay with paypal but the transaction surfaced as 'denied' on KNC's end. Anyone else experience this?

scam?  Grin
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