You have to understand that the bitcoin market has evolved. We can argue that Satoshi wanted it to be a on-line payment method. But when people started to realized that it can be used as investments or store of value, then the whole ball game has change. That's why in the last 3-5 years, it really attracted a lot of so called investors that's why the price goes on and almost touch $20K last year.

I would love to see bitcoin being used by casual people like buying things in groceries and stuff on-line. But its not what we are seeing right now. It become a investment instrument that's why adoption is very slow. No one is actually using it but investors/traders/speculators.

Hi everyone,

Sorry I was out in the last couple days and was unable to follow it up.

Thanks to @jhenfelipe for updating this thread. So yes, its official the email the OP got is not from coins.ph.

@OP kindly lock this thread now!!!

It boils down as how much the whales has total control of the market. If there are whales that are dumping right now, then the consequence will be far more greater. However, I still believed that this sudden drop might has something to do with FUD or negative news. I speculate that there are bad news that cause this panic. We will find it out in the next couple of days.

If there's no bad news, then we can blame them to the whales. But if you a whale, it doesn't make sense to dump at $6400-$6500, they have set up the bull trap around $7K. So for me that's the best time for whales to dump and take profits and not with the current price. Anyways, this market is really prone to manipulation so I wouldn't be surprise if this sudden plunge was due to some whales dumping and re-buying at cheap price.

You can follow this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3998963.0

The OP always update his thread so you will see the most recent bounties there. I don't know if someone can recommend you, you still have to DYOR. Websites like https://icomarks.com/ or https://icobench.com/ is a good place to start. Every ICO has the potential to make it big, but its going to be hard to find that needle in the haystack.

It has happened in Venezuela and Zimbabwe as well. You need to understand why Bitcoin is premium at those places. Its because they are in economic turmoil now.

For Iran, I see that they are using bitcoin to circumvent the trade embargo imposed to them by US and the West. So its time for them other outlet similar to what Venezuela did, having Petro coins. Also you will also wonder, why they suddenly embrace crypto and make a sudden U-turn? Initially they said that they are totally against crypto and now they are changing their tunes? So don't be fooled by the premium price right now in Iran because there's a lot of thing going on from behind, besides you can't do arbitrage here if you are thinking of ways to make money.

First, congrats for having that 2 BTC, protect it at all cost. Yes, there will be a lot of drama surrounding the decision. Others think that it could make or break this market. If I'm in your shoes, I will wait after the decision. Why in case of a rejection, the price could go down so that is a perfect buying point.


It's really up to you, in case the price go to bottom and you have the funds then I will go full 1 BTC hard. But if you don't have enough money, then maybe half now half later is a good strategy, its a win-win actually.

Hello coins.ph

Can you please confirmed this?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5006147.0

Someone posted that he got e-mail claiming to be from info@coins.ph. But the individual said he/she doesn't have any account on coins.ph. Can you shed light so that this FUD or whatever news can finally laid to rest?

I wouldn't say that they are avoiding them, its not the market is in the bear market, investors are very reluctant. But if you look at the bright side, its a perfect time to buy and hold long term or do day trading, Its up to the individual which best fits his goal in this market, Long or Short term.

What we are seeing is that investors putting their money on ICO and then immediately dump to take the profits. I mean this is the only reason why we are seeing coins like Ethereum which is the best coin for investing in ICO project take a plunge this year.

Just looked at the Joined Date, and why would Satoshi suddenly shows after so many years of "hiding". So its obviously fake and no matter how many times we dig into Satoshi, the more we won't find him.

I open this thread about Verge:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4995413.msg45059916#msg45059916

But it seems no one cares and know nothing about the current developments that will push the price of the coin.

So I hope that those who hold this coin is very happy with the recent news and the price spike in the last couple of days. Not just Verge but the whole altcoins seems to be recovering now, perhaps this is the start of the rise of the market again.

https://ambcrypto.com/verge-xvg-releases-developer-updates-verge-to-bitcoin-core-version-0-13-rebasing-completed/

It looks like its time for XVG to go to the moon with this news.

What are you thoughts about this development?

Will this push the price of XVG again?

I'm not familiar with XVG, I hope someone can chime it about this latest developments.

Yes, there's a big risk on investors or even bounty hunters if ever such hacks occurs:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/83ybwn/shady_dadi_ico_server_got_hacked_huge_data_breach/

https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/02/07/sentinel-chain-ico-leak-passport/

Of course the project or company should be held accountable because you put trust in them that they are going to secure your personal data. I guess ICO than are requiring KYC now are making it more riskier on our end.

I think some ICO's are also doing some restrictions as well. You can't join if you are amongst the country they don't allowed.

Perhaps if the OP can provide some concrete evidence that they have called a lot of scam ICO's then its going to be easy for us to take him seriously. However, it doesn't make sense to come out with another ICO and raised funds (correct if me I'm wrong), to fight against scammy one.

You can call them anytime here in the forum and post proof that they are indeed scammers with fake teams, plagiarised white papers, github repositories with nothing to show or updates, etc.

Its hard to stop those ICO's, they are like 2 steps ahead, but doing due diligence is our best weapon and this forum's Scam Accusations thread is a good way to snoop https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 and see ICO projects being mentioned as a fraud.

I'm not really sure if there's a correlation between festivities and bitcoin pump. This year alone, everyone thought that we can go back again after the end of Chinese New Year, but it didn't happened.


Might be the case but I don't think is the major contributory factor to rise if even we are going to see a good price. There's has to be something of a catalyst, that will really swayed investors sentiments to renewed their interest on the market again, Hopefully this could be the approval of ETFs, but if you looked at more senior members here, they are not sold and probably we might see a rejection just like they rejected 9 before the Van Eyck/Solid X proposal due on end of September.

How about the evidence in first page of this thread? Not enough to link those 2 accounts?

Guess what, the drama still continues but from what I read, people haven't get paid yet. At the end of the day, ICOforums will have a lot of catching up to do to be able to regain their reputation.

The first thing that I've noticed is that your website is not secure.
Edit: Sorry it has been answered already.

So its looks like odesk or whatever its called today, but its more focus on blockchain technology developers so its unique. However, when I try to click "F.A.Q" and "about us", its not responding, it is still under construction? Or probably add like "T.O.S" as well so that potential clients will know everything beforehand.

First, there's no so called experts in this field. Most of them are just speculators, making bold predictions to also fit into their agenda.

Second, I surmise that in order for bitcoin to rise dramatically again, it needs a tipping point. It really have to rock-bottom allowing investors and speculators to enter the picture with interest again because the price is too tempting and swoop and take advantage of the situation to be a bag holder and stash even more.

@BitcoinPanther, if the author is giving us fair warning then its good, but the title is somewhat misleading. You will initially thought it was creating panic and fear amongst investors specially noobs.

I would call it a dilemma, bounty hunters have 2 choices, either dump their coins one they got it or seriously but the risk of having this tokens plummeting is there. We have witnessed a lot of ICO campaigns never got to reach their ICO price again because of the sudden pump of bounty hunters.

But there are tokens worth holding but its really difficult for bounty hunters because we are in the bear season. Everyone is dumping as soon as they got their hands on their tokens. You can't blame them though, they have work very hard weeks after weeks so they deserved their payments.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/343127/number-bitcoin-atms/

I'm assuming based on the statistics on that website, people are using ATM's because its growing year-to-year. At a business standpoint, why would someone put a ATM when people are not going to used it?

So for me, people are actually using it but we might not have the statistics. And as crypto adoption grows overtime, perhaps people will find convenience using Bitcoin ATM just like regular fiat ATM in my opinion.

I agree that there is a strong support along the line of $6K, but we can't really tell if we have bottom this year because everyone is waiting for the final verdict on Van Ecyk / Solid X ETF proposal. I know that everyone calls not to get excited or don't get infatuated with this hype.

But I'm seeing a short term effect if the SEC will (likely) reject this proposal. Panic selling will follow that's why I'm not totally sold on saying that we will never seen Bitcoin bottom again this year. Let's wait till the final verdict and see how it pans out in Oct-Dec 2018.