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661  Economy / Speculation / Re: More bad news: G20 wants to regulate crypto's on: March 22, 2018, 11:19:54 AM
lol,G20 meeting has done and theres no issues about regulation,your speculations are too far from reality,try to make some positive news than that damn fake news lol
Lol. I like the word his speculations are too far from reality and which truly they are. The guy is totally lost in his own negative atmosphere that he ends up concluding everything as bad news with no single intelligence. If eventually every country even decides to come up with regulation, I totally believe it would end up creating better days ahead than bad.

At least, it makes it become a legal entity and the whole FUD being created by people like the OP will die down as every investor start seeing crypto-space as something worth looking into without the fear of the government clamp down.
662  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are charts useful for long term investors? on: March 22, 2018, 10:41:52 AM
In the short term it is clear that they are useful but in the long term I don't think prices follow an certain path, many things can change the long term path.
In the long term, charts are still very useful. I have always been a long term trader and I trade candle patterns, more like price actions on daily charts. I can decide to hold for as long as I can, but at the same time, I always need the chart to know the activities going on the charts and when exactly to buy or sell based on whatever analysis I am doing.

Yes, some traders may not bother with this, since they end up buy low in margins and selling the same way, but for someone who may want to make at least close to accurate decision, it is necessary.
663  Economy / Speculation / Re: User sjefdeklerk is spamming FUD news on: March 22, 2018, 10:00:43 AM
Its INTERESTING that you only find negative news INTERESTING!

Well it's kinda hard these days to post positive news. What did I miss?
That is because you are not taking your time to find some. Ever imagined throwing a discussion on Lightening network, probably on the good things to look forward to from the G20 summit and so on and so forth.

The reason you have decided to spam negative ones is because you apparently know it will end up giving you some attention, not like you really want to add anything tangible to the community anyway. However you want to play your card, good for you, but at least find a way to do it without embarrassing yourself most of the time.
664  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Legitimate exchanges on: March 22, 2018, 08:20:14 AM
Legitimate does not mean they will not eventually "scam" or get "hacked". Look at the two most recent suspensions in Japan. Both were perfectly legitimate, issued proper licenses and everything. But they still got compromised and as a result were forced to suspend activities. I think for me, if it comes to exchanges, I am now only going to use the ones that do not have a trading platform. Such as Localbitcoins. It is purely people buying and selling to each other, no pump and dump schemes, no hacks, because people do not store their coins there (not the way they do when they trade).
Lol. I can understand you but we also have to understand that most of them are fully operational and already being regulated such as bittrex and I am sure they would not want to do anything to jeopardize their position in the market and generally go against the law in scamming users unlike Yobit which you already know it is out there to drain users and one day this is what is going to end up happening.

Bittrex, Binance, GDax, Bitfinex and Bitstamp are still reputable at least for now, but some of them have been operating for a long time now, and that makes them more of a better zone to trade for safety than the others.
665  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Banking will still be significant until cryptocurrencies can "stand on their own on: March 21, 2018, 02:38:57 PM
Banks have existed since the beginning of human civilized life and will exist until its end. Therefore, those who believe that the crypto currency will destroy banks, do not understand the economy and statehood at all. Each state needs banks to finance the economy and, in general, any directions of state development. Therefore, if the crypto currency is in conflict with the banks, it will be banned immediately, regardless of what, the state in this respect defends itself rigidly, up to criminal liability for any operations with the crypto currency. Therefore, it is better not to joke with such things.
The only reason why we are not seeing much from the government right now is because they really have nothing to hold against cryptocurrency and all that they have been saying is just a way to raise some annoying excuse. However, I agree with you that banks will always be significant.

If there is one thing we really need to be true to ourselves about, that is the fact that so many people here today are not here to make use of cryptocurrencies as currency but as an investment, so I guess we are just seeing another world of digital stocks.
666  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is a risk necessary to make a big profit? on: March 21, 2018, 01:52:45 PM
The bigger the risk, the bigger the gain. If anybody is afraid of losing then put the money in a bank or in a vault no risk no gain. Take the risk if you succeed you will be happy if you lose you will become wise. it's a win win situation. But offcourse it defends on how you absorb the situation. 
Always be careful of the risk you want to take. A lot of people even on this forum have decided to try gambling out with the chance that they may end up hitting it big. It is a lot of risk too anyway, so I do not expect that one should not expect to see a great result as well.

All the above, there are some risks that are absolutely just too stupid to take, and even if you want to take a risk, you should take one that is well worth it to achieve a big result. It is sure better to try than not to try at all,  but if you are trying, also use your brain in the process.
667  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: has trading become difficult? on: March 21, 2018, 01:15:57 PM
These days the bitcoin prices are rising and falling over 1000$ in just minutes and have become highly unpredictable way more than before.
Does this make trading more difficult right now?

I don't really think so because now that cryptocurrency is getting more and more popular to people, so they are all getting aware, then many or most people are persuaded to try investing on them. Despite the coina having low value, as a trader, one must be patient enough to deal with waiting because it will eventually be worth it.
Waiting is mainly for the investors who are going in long and that does not necessarily work for a normal trader who is making a living and increasing his holding from trading.

A long term position holder can withstand to keep holding until he or she realizes the desired profit, but for a trader, he or she knows when to buy in, when to sell and when to exit if things end up not working out as planned quickly to find a better position and anyone without knowledge will most definitely find that difficult.
668  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HODL vs Day trading on: March 21, 2018, 12:36:07 PM
if you play daily trading is a lot of risk, because it can make you panic selling because the price continues to move quickly every minute. I think it's better to play long term maybe once a week to see the market or after you buy you can directly put a sell order above the price you buy  Grin
Day trading is not for you to panic sell. You only panic sell when you do not know what you are doing and that even exposes you to more risk. A day trader who is good does not panic in any situation and he or she is either buying or selling as long as they see it as the best thing to do at that point. One good thing with trading however is that you keep increasing what you have and you can even make it a means of income, even though it takes a lot of time and strength too.

Day-trading is only good for those who have the knowledge to be able to pull the whole trading off. It is not just only risky but also stressful as well and you really want to be very careful not doing something as risky as that without knowing how to. I prefer trading generally to holding anyway no matter the style of trading as long as you keep increasing your holding.
669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is it better to buy during ICO or Market? on: March 20, 2018, 06:18:38 PM
I noticed that many investors were afraid to buy during ICO because their reason they are cheaper can be bought on market. Especially when they found out  that a large percentage is allotted in the bounty program. Many Bounty Hunters  immediately selling token/coin even lower than the ICO price.

#Datarius



Ofcouse during ICO especially when you purchase on their phase 1 of their token sale you will get around 50% bonus of token you will get and then when the get it listed on the exchange sell it then buy on the dipped you really believe on that coin.
Anyone who invests early during ICOs should always have the whole thing covered with bonuses, so I wonder why anyone is here complaining. I have sure gotten a lot of prices lower on exchanges before once it was launched, but in general I still make profit and it is not the short term that matters but the long term.

Moreover, even after ICO, if you see the price going down and you have more funds, then trade the lower price, because it does not take long before it gets bounced back to the normal ICO price and there may be few to go around for everyone.
670  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The best way to earn money on: March 20, 2018, 05:36:46 PM
The best way is bounty, thats what i think about it. Reason is one and mainly - you dont need any investment, only your time. So tryhard and you will get what you want.            
I feel there should have been another option there that includes bounty and trading. Bounty is a very good form to increase what you have, but trading even makes it more awesome as you trade the fluctuations.

Holding most of these coins really do not make any sense and I feel it is over rated, because if you can learn how to trade and make use of the long term fluctuations to buy back lower, it makes even more sense to have more holding and even have a lot of profit in the process.

Earning money is not guaranteed in anything until you start seeing the profit but the only thing that makes it different is that at least with a good project, you can still be a bit rest assured that you can see something tangible from the whole thing. Everyone should have their own strategy as to how they want to invest and as long as you are utilizing every opportunity, you should be fine with earning money and all depends on your ability to make use of what you have to earn.
671  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin will rise up again ? on: March 20, 2018, 04:55:04 PM
I'm still wondering why bitcoin suddenly dropped over 11kUSD. i thought that it will hit 30k usd  this year, but how come it's suddenly dropped? i dont think so if its manipulated by whales or maybe the supply and demand of bitcoin is one of the problem . or maybe uts a chance given to us to buy so we can havea good profits. can someone explain?
You are already assuming for the end when it has not even arrived. You predicted $30k for this year, apparently with no basic support to your prediction anyway, but at least you should be complaining when the year ends and not when the year is just starting. Anything can still happen in between you know, and we may get to see some huge demand rushing into the market based on some fundamental news, so do not just give up hope yet.
672  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Mt. Gox dude won't let Bitcoin prices rise on: March 20, 2018, 02:36:16 PM
Why do people keep acting like he's just another bearwhale? He's employed by the court. The court decides.

The necessary amount of money to pay everyone back has now been raised. He will not be permitted to dump anything else. His job is done on that front. All the remaining coins have not had their future settled.

The most likely outcomes are either they all go back to Gox shareholders or they're distributed to the victims. Neither requires this bloke to sell anything, nor will he have the right to.
Well, that feels good to hear and I really want to hope you are right. Personally, I would not be too relax as this guy still made some statements in one of the article that I read which simply and logically means that the possibility is still there. Left for me, I would rather say they allow the Buffon sell everything so we can have a clear movement ahead, because whether we like it or not, it is definitely still affecting trader's and investors' perception until that is fully clarified.

Just one of the point I raised in one of the threads that was talking about the guy pausing his sell out till September and in my mind, it was more like what difference does it make ?

It is not like he is still not going to sell and as long as what he is holding is still huge, no one would want to gamble selling to him at a higher price and those who are buying now will be very wary of any slight movement in the market. Investors themselves will even be nowhere in the scene of the market. I wish this dude can just do his bullshit once and for all and let us move forward.
673  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why we may be stuck in the current range for long on: March 20, 2018, 02:05:32 PM
Serious question, does G20 meeting will have any effect towards bitcoin price?
Maybe, maybe not. If it turns out to be positive and we get to see some huge interest from investors as a result of that, then we may see some positive improvement in the value of bitcoin, otherwise, I will decide to remain mute on what the outcome of a negative news can cause, but I really do not expect anything strange to happen anyway as I am sure there is a lot of enthusiasm by governments to regulate the space, so let's wait and see.

Positive news from G20 meeting may really be of great help right now but it just seems the market is just not ready to eve move from one spot but to just keep going down and maybe we may end up seeing a double bottom before a rise, no one knows but whichever way, let's see how the whole thing turns out. Negative news will be over when things start changing with regulation as most of them have actually been brewed from one government doing this or the other.
674  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Walk of Shame on: March 20, 2018, 01:20:04 PM
I think it happened to me when I was in High School I lost all of my money in a bet ,
We played DOTA back then and we always manage to win but in a certain time we go to one of our School mates place to gamble and my team ended up losing .
Many people often claim that betting have more advantages over gambling. Yes I agree somehow is better than gambling but still huge risks are there. People need to understand that whenever you are encounter with many options, go for that one which is less risky. Betting is totally risky, as luck is involved. There are no technical skills involved in it hence you may get a big loss.
It is still gambling as far as I am concerned but it is reasonable that with betting you can still at least make use of some factors to your advantage. Nevertheless, everything still balls down on luck. Everything with gambling is risky and those who understand that risk and gamble anyway while keeping themselves in check will never experience a walk of shame like OP did, but I can bet so many people who have been playing on online casinos and posting on this forum that they want to make profit, some of them should have had a SLEEP OF SHAME one way or the other.
675  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does positive thinking affect your edge in gambling on: March 20, 2018, 11:32:25 AM
Some people think that strong feeling affect the outcome of your bet. But for me its all about luck., what do you think guys.

Yes positive thinking is will help me in gambling. Because no gamblers will wish for their lose before they go to gamble. Always think positive, wishing all day town the game,.And be succeed
Okay...then good luck thinking positively in all your gambling and keep losing all that you have thinking that would work for you. Honestly, most of the guys that have been talking about positive thinking since I have started reading through this thread are just busy deceiving themselves and not anyone because it has never and will never work for any of them.

If you get lucky, then count yourself lucky, getting positive before you gamble, oh my! oh my!! You will end up even betting your pants.
676  Economy / Economics / Re: Japan to Call for Crypto Rules at the G20 Summit on: March 19, 2018, 05:57:36 PM
Japanese representatives will push for the adoption of global rules on cryptocurrencies at the upcoming G20 meeting in Argentina. Next week, the summit will gather finance ministers and central bankers in Buenos Aires. Other countries also want to put crypto matters on the table, with signals coming from key members of the European Union.  

read for more updates here : https://news.bitcoin.com/japan-to-call-for-crypto-rules-at-the-g20-summit/
Well, as a reason to just move ahead generally, I would say it is not bad but for the fact that regulation is becoming a thing we have to just accept, I would just say we do not have any choice and I hope it does not end up with the governments trying to frustrate everything. However, it is a good thing and at least for us to just move on once and for all without the government breathing down our neck and raising FUDs, this would make some sense.

At least from what Japan has been able to achieve in a period of few months of regulation, I am sure they will have a lot to tender on why it would be a welcome development if they all embrace it rather than trying to fight it. Japan has taken the bold step already, and it is left for others to follow. I know a lot have been a bit skeptical with regulations, but at this stage, it is more like regulation or nothing and at least regulation will create more awareness.
677  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you still use bitcoins if the price would be stable? on: March 19, 2018, 05:17:54 PM
Why wouldn't I? These two potentialities highlighted by you is even enough for A Bitcoin addict to stick to Bitcoin during it's instability, not to now talk of when it is stabled. I cherished Bitcoin for it's volatility that keeps it going in the Crypto world, as I equally adore Bitcoin for it's Financial benefits since I know my ways in this field of on line Digital store of value.
Yes, I will and always will. My main reason to having some bitcoin to myself anyway is to be able to make transactions across border without the government breathing down my neck and bitcoin has been able to solve that, so why would I want to stop using it because it is stable. The increase in value most times is just a plus to my holding, but who really cares as what I have been holding for the past 4 years anyway has increased more than I would spend all at once if it stabilizes.
678  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how risky is day trading? on: March 17, 2018, 10:42:18 AM
In my opinion as I have experienced up to now, I think that trading risk is very high, if you can control that risk for you, it's easy to earn profits every time even every day, because at bitcoin prices always go up higher,
Is there anything you want to do to give you money that does not come with a high risk? That is the importance of knowledge. That knowledge will give you all the necessary strategies you can make use of to enable you to have good profit from whatever form of trading that you are doing. it is generally the way things are, if you do not learn, you will always stand the chance of losing, if you learn, you can brace yourself to do everything right.

If anyone can study the market and have some confidence, they should be able to day trade or do any other form of trading and still do well. Understanding the risk will always make you play safe. No trading pattern is non-risky, just that day trading is more risky and usually the more the gain you make, the more the risk anyway. As much as profitable day trading can be, the more you can also lose everything if you are not careful.
679  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How to know before the Dump? on: March 17, 2018, 10:03:58 AM
I have been investing in cryptocurrency for 5 months . I am buying some icos and holding coins. I started with 5000 usd. And sometimes my balance went up to 30k and down to 12k . I feel very uncomfortable when my balance is dropped.
So i want to know is there any strategy to protect your balance before the dump?
Anyone can help please.
Thank you so much.
First, you should put in mind that it is the nature of crypto currency to dump and pump anytime.  It is volatile. Second, There is no formula that will give you hint if the crypto will dump or pump because if there will be any then many investors are super rich by now.  You should understand that cryptocurrecncy do not have stable price so, earning and losing investment is part of the whole picture.  The good thing about crypto currency is even it dump it always recover.  Meaning, as long as you keep holding your crypto, you always have chance to recover your loses. 
Anyone that does not even understand that level of volatility before investing apparently missed the road trying to invest in the first place. One thing with this market is that it will always have its own time and then we can get to see where things end up from there. Nothing can be predicted, although some signs are shown by indicators if a market is about to switch trends, but anyone without that knowledge will obviously not get the best from it and will only end up losing more trying to predict a dump.
680  Economy / Economics / Re: Will countries or central banks create their own cryptocurrency? on: March 17, 2018, 09:01:43 AM

A few countries and central banks have been talking about “digital currency”, and most of them are carefully ignoring the term “crypto”. Fact is- digital currency is not the same as cryptocurrency. These countries/central banks are recognizing the benefits of the digital currency features of cryptocurrency, but they don’t want any of the decentralized uncertainties that come with blockchain-based currencies.
Will countries or central banks create their own cryptocurrency?


I have not heard about the banks, but several countries are going to create their own cryptocurrency.

https://news.bitcoin.com/putin-cryptoruble-sanctions-bank-of-russia-skeptical/
Many other crypto currencies have been developed so far and coming to market on regular basis. If every country accepts such challenge and become a horse in this technology race then ultimate results will help such crypto world flourish and enhance. Many people are still losing hopes in bitcoins as they see so many other altcoins, people, believe in bitcoins, they are best.
It would take some time but we are getting closer gradually. It takes just one to start and then others will start using that particular one as a case study in terms of the benefits that can be derived from it.

For instance, Japan went all the way to regulate cryptocurrency at large as well as the exchanges and the GDP within that period had a substantial increase which is assumed that the regulation was a fuel for that and then others are trying to take the same steps, I believe this is the same thing that will end up happening with countries creating their own cryptocurrency.
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