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well correct me if i am wrong, but scrypt algorithm is designed to prevent such hardware from being used by creating a large memory requirements, greater the speed, greater the memory requirements, FPGA's would also require in addition RAM chips to save to memory, i guess the RAM requirement would be extraordinarily high.
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The reasons for which India isnt language specific are :
1 we cannot type our own languages on english keyboard, maybe transliterate it.
2 India has just TOO many languages, Hindi, Bengali,Tamil are not the ONLY ones so its really not possible to make a forum for a country with so many widely used languages.
3 people in India that use the internet know how to speak and read english as it is our official language and hence there is really no need for language specificity3.
Why an integrated forum would fail ? :
Because the idea of a local forum is to enable ease of cash transfer and the possibility of meetups, which a South Asia United Forum wont be able to successfully integrate because of the obvious border issues.
90% of people using internet in India know english, but that isnt the case with people from other south asian countries.
Plus lets be honest, everyone in South Asia pretty much hates Indians, its a documented fact, I know cuz I did some digging around sometime ago.
On the contrary if there is a payment system that integrates all the countries in SAARC and enables easy payment to individuals for both small and large amounts, then definitely we can see some progress.
I DO think this is as a good idea, i just dont see how it would work.
Rebuttal1. yes you can type in the National language of India which is Hindi. 2 To many languages . yes but the national language being Hindi is expected from most. 3. dont know what you meant by that . but Language specific forums are there to help people speaking in that language. India having the internet users, are mainly english educated hens English being the proffered means to communicate. taking that into context the users involved in bitcoins in india is low. participation is low ,(THE MAIN PROBLEM) Why an integrated forum would NOT fail ?Because the idea of a local forum is to enable ease of cash transfer and the possibility of meetups, which a South Asia United Forum wont be able to successfully integrate because of the obvious border issues. You are looking at this only through the lens off trading bitcoins for fiat. obviously this would mean problems in transaction in a particular foregin currency would become difficult. but the number of indian users would remain the same , more members from the neighboring countries would be involved. and even add to your trading profit. so no harm here. 90% of people using internet in India know english, but that isnt the case with people from other south asian countries.
Plus lets be honest, everyone in South Asia pretty much hates Indians, its a documented fact, I know cuz I did some digging around sometime ago. Well if you think every one from south asia hates indians then we need to be able to extend our hands and show how much of a friendly people we truly are. changing perception comes through individual act. and yes most of the south asian do speak English. On the contrary if there is a payment system that integrates all the countries in SAARC and enables easy payment to individuals for both small and large amounts, then definitely we can see some progress. Again you are looking at it in the prospective of you own business , the number of Indians wont reduce for you, So your business is still safe .. Integration is to help and get help in more community participation. I DO think this is as a good idea, i just dont see how it would work. How it works ? simple we integrate. What i am aiming at 
1. Greater participation of people .
2. Giving help and getting help from neighboring country members.
3. An International collaboration, working between people cross country forming partnerships.
Resulting effect:-
larger community
problems gives rise to newer and better solutions (tow heads are better than one)
friendly ties with neighboring countries (after all a peaceful nation is a better nation )
Why Am i promoting this idea.
Because Our indian community is far to small, it cannot sustain on its own . trust me it needs to be integrated and have a wider community outreach.
My question to all is why would you oppose it ? and i will try to give a reasonable rebuttal to your opposition. lets talk people.
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A Google spreadsheet Exchange.
Yup !! |
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Ok from my earlier post, in the bangladesh thread i had discussed with a few members about the integration of the India forum into a South asian forum , that takes all the south asian countries under its wing, There by creating a larger community and increasing then number of members comming in . What i am looking at is to increase the collaboration of members of different countries, and giving it a platform. I know i said, i raise my hands. but what's the harm in discussing this out . I find open dialog to be highly productive when problems needs to be solved . and right now for the Indian community the problem is the low volume of people and also low volumes of btc. opening up to a south asian nation would help tremendously. and the second thing, i also pointed out is that on the Bitcointalk, all local forums are language specific, not country . So looking at that, the India section is the only odd one out. it is not language specific ckz every one speaks English, except our own sub forum , which you all know has not taken off that well.
Ahaaa .... well the beauty about problems is the solutions that come about . remember these solutions will only work when a community spirit is fostered. I am all about creating a open and friendly community. Creating, to many sub forums will only divide the bitcoin community which is not a good thing. We the few members are now in the forefront to having a cross border community, and then flood of new ideas and changes that come with it. greater collaboration and faster growth.
Now if you are against reaching your hand over the border and integrate the south asian members, then i dont know how an isolationism of The indian community would help us in the long run .
OK. speaking on hypothetical terms, although i feel greatly that it is possible. but.... ok back to what i was saying Hypothetically
A South asian integrated group (English speaking) (May be sub-forum for national languages)
Effect :
Members increase ,
Participation on the forum increase .
Ideas and solution to trade start to take place.
Bitcoin trade increases (legendster you benefit from this)
Mining collaboration may increase .
New services start up to cater to the problems that come up .(Solutions to problems every one is talking about)
We can't always go and say "our group, no one dare enter it, my country my say i don't like sharing". But, what we have to say is "au contraire".
I always say, sharing is loving, and to love thy neighbor is the noblest of all attributes.
I think this calls for a new thread proposing this idea.
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Ok well the marketplace sub-forum is in a huge mess. (well atleast from what is see it as)
too many threads just for purchase and sell of bitcoins, and verry little for other goods and services.
What i propose is the Integration of purchase and sell of bitcoins in one thread , one person takes up responsibility of updating the first post will the purchase and sell of all bitcoin request.
What this is going to solve is the problem for new comers looking through vaporous threads to find the right price to buy or sell.
No other sellers would cut off another seller and start a flame war.
And a single thread documenting all transactions for easy view and solving disputes.
and yes you can put in your +10% as a quote but i find that to much of a problem for local economical growth,
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selling this circus, for some serious people, who considering investing into bitcoins is a jaw dropping.
I dont care who is scamming, who is not scamming as long it did not come to me. And it did come to me at this time. Some kids calling me, trying to fix price, asking were I live, proposing to meet, lakhs deals ect. I guess been mixed in shit is a part of been bitcoiner in India
Play it cool, you know how to identify scammers, if people become even a little suspicious just cut communication. In regards to other sellers cutting you off. just take it easy. free enterprises will always give rise to alot of competition . I say every thing is ok as long as deals on both sides are done with honor. |
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looks like someone's got a crush setting on lol ... seeing exotic dancers as me hum..... dont know if it could be a complement or not..... but any ways it better that nothing.  |
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I do agree with your stance on not recommending any one as Mod.. But Mod is also a person and can have opinions.. He is not a judge or something like that who can not say ok i will recommend this or that.. As far as being mod, I see your responsibility only to avoid spam, organize the board and make sure the discussions are on topic. I do not see you as scam protector or internet police. People must use precaution to save them selves from scam. It is not your duty to save every one out here. I love posting my opinions, recommendations, thoughts, etc as a person, not a mod. buysellbitco.in is spot on with my responsibilities on the forum. Internet Policing, Scam chasing, Escrow, Jokes, posts etc are all things that I do as a Bitcoiner, not as a Moderator. If someone asks me to arbitrate a problem, I will help for sure and I do not care if my opinions are heard or not. I will try my best to stop scams if I am sure that something is not in place. As far as I can understand all Pinwheel is saying is that people jumping in on each trade with offers like below :
Quote from: legendster on June 12, 2013, 05:18:17 PM
Doing a transaction this size would definitely help me clear my name and get some recognition to KROGYAN.
I m from kolkata, I ll provide my PAN and Bank details.
I'll give you similar rates of what you are asking.
I wont risk my own money into this but would definitely like to talk about it in PM if you would.
The above post was funny to me to be honest. Which mature individual in their right minds would even thing of considering an attempt at assuming that this could have reached the point of sale. This is free market economics and yes, they also have scammers, exotic dancers and subvolatil.  hey whats my name doing here. granted i'm special, and you guys just love me so much, but dam .... next to an exotic dancer.. now that is just not true.. may be in college, but those were old time lol |
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Hahaha lol cant stop laughing.
there was also an instance in one of the centers i went to, with my friend she was wearing a tank top and would not let her take her picture without a suit on, kept saying that every one has to be in traditional. had my done without any hiccup. but she had to go back to her place and change, took up our entire day for a simple picture.
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Funny in the open market you can buy any type of data you need on people here in india, in fact good data provides can give you names, DOB, pan card numbers address, financial details, insurance details, incom tax records, and purchase history. nothing new with what businesses do . in facet this is a good lie of business with high profit margins.
You can subscribe your business to a service on the PAN website which allows you to verify PAN card numbers and other customer data. I got a firsthand look at the system at a ShareKhan franchise that I was consulting for. They leave systems open and unlocked all the time and some have easy entry access from the road to their systems. And now they are getting biometric data as well for Aadhar. Dam i am already in that Aadhar system. i just did not want to get that thing made. but had to in the end :-( |
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FUD with the three horse men.
Just another step by the mainstream to start discrediting bitcoin . nothing new, and this will continue with a lot more followups.
I wonder if this will have the same effect that the Gizmodo article had. That was the key to the world finding out about Bitcoin. Maybe a bunch of people from India will jump in after this article goes viral. Well it scares me ckz it attracts the wrong kind of people, and with them comes a flood of new social problems. bad press always gets bad people involved. i'm just hoping this will attract the right type of people. *fingers crossed* |
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Benson which part of the world are you living in, our gov forgiving . arrrrrr.... NOT.
Well regarding the problems with Kashmir is the religious extremist there, the terror groups, corrupt cops, self centered government policies.
once upon a time Kashmir was a beautiful place until a bunch of politicians from both countries decided to fuck it up.
regarding the problem you faced being called a Israeli, well that is fairly common through Muslim areas, they all hate the Israeli, so they go about asking every god dam foreigner if they are from Israel, which in my opinion is a fucking idiotic thing to do . and if the Guide did that to you then it was a real bad thing that guide did.
Next time get a reliable guide, may be a government one.
He was apointed by the govt. We were days in on a trek and yes i wondered if we were going to end up dead. hum...... well i would atleast suggest you to report that guide to the touristic authority, they can at least do some thing about that . what has happened can be undone but atleast informing that government branch of the incident will be a better option. Well next time you want to go trekking go to sikkim, or even better, Bhutan you cant beat the trekking routs and fly fishing spots there, awsom. |
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FUD with the three horse men.
Just another step by the mainstream to start discrediting bitcoin . nothing new, and this will continue with a lot more followups.
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Benson which part of the world are you living in, our gov forgiving . arrrrrr.... NOT.
Well regarding the problems with Kashmir is the religious extremist there, the terror groups, corrupt cops, self centered government policies.
once upon a time Kashmir was a beautiful place until a bunch of politicians from both countries decided to fuck it up.
regarding the problem you faced being called a Israeli, well that is fairly common through Muslim areas, they all hate the Israeli, so they go about asking every god dam foreigner if they are from Israel, which in my opinion is a fucking idiotic thing to do . and if the Guide did that to you then it was a real bad thing that guide did.
Next time get a reliable guide, may be a government one.
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Kashmire is surely most beautiful place on earth
yeah, pretty much this. anyway if you get a guide be careful, they like to go around telling everyone you are from, Israel (not joking). Lol ,,, well that is funny, should go ther and say "Shalom" to every one  |
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Sikkim is too beautiful. love it there. extremely friendly people, great food, and awesome weather.
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We firmly believe the current market rates in India is hurting bitcoin adoption ( We are also part of this bullshit as of now ) and that we will try to change. Trust me guys the business you see on forums is nothing.
Cheers
Well i have raised this issue before and did suggest a few solutions to it but no one wants to use it ckz it becomes a change from their normal routine. Some how i feel us Indians resists change. Any ways i dont know, if it is possible for some of us to meet up, may be on freenode and thrash out solutions to many problems plaguing the indian bitcoin community . |
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