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681  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you ever feel tired of waiting? on: October 11, 2023, 08:59:29 PM
Time passes so quickly without us realizing it. If you look at the halving it will happen next year, which is 4 years very fast and that is what makes some people not tired of waiting for a new ATH because they are focused on the plans they make. Once again, it seems that it is true that there is no fatigue for to hold Bitcoin longer because without realizing it, month turns into month and year turns into year.

Yes, as @Rikafip said, if you keep checking prices every day then you will feel tired of waiting for Bitcoin to record its highest price. Therefore just delete CMC and price tracker apps. I believe we must get used to keeping ourselves busy with various other activities so that the investment we make in BTC does not become a thought that burdens you to keep looking at prices every day.

In fact, we are entering Q4 and soon we will we will see the Halving moment, so the time that passes so quickly will only leave beautiful moments for us if we continue to hold and buy every dip that occurs.
682  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It is only Bitcoin and nothing else on: October 11, 2023, 08:40:38 PM
Well yeah.. you can just keep plugging away, so each person is going to have differing goals.. and so maybe since you have been in bitcoin longer, you might have had been able to accumulate more bitcoin than some others who are brand new to bitcoin, and some guys might consider that they would like to get to 2 BTC in the next 10 years.. and so along the way they might have several targets, such as first reaching 1 million satoshis.. then reaching 21 million, then reaching 50 million.. and then 1 BTC.. and then 1.5 BTC and etc, etc. etc...
I want to stay in the circle of investing in Bitcoin and to be honest I haven't used Bitcoin since (eg 2013). I started in 2016 and from 2017 until now, even at that time there was no strong initiative for me to withhold in the long term because I still had minimal knowledge about Bitcoin. (meaning I only bought Bitcoin and sold again when I made a profit, but the results were zero big because the money was used up in vain because of other things. But after I followed a lot of developments in the Bitcoin discussion, I kind of want to holding it for a long time and buying gradually using the DCA method. Various targets might be included in my investment planning, such as 1 BTC a year if  it is achieved or 0.5 BTC per year. Planning like that is good enough to implement because with this target we can be confident and full of enthusiasm to be able to achieve it earlier with the aggressive level that we can do.
so like you mentioned, there could be times in your life where you end up getting some extra cash come your way.. such as $2k that you did not expect, and maybe you decide you are going to use $1,200 to buy bitcoin and then you have some other personal plans for the other $800.. but your level of aggressiveness and consistency can pay off, and if you clearly consider yourself in an accumulation phase, then you should not be wanting to engage in behaviors that might be screwing up your plan.. but you also don't want to act so aggressively that you have not adequately planned various expenses in your life.
Of course, every time you work, you will definitely get additional money given by company management if a company gets bigger profits every year, so we as employees might get a bonus which we can maximize to buy BTC.

Another thing with bitcoin price dynamics, the longer that you are in bitcoin, and if you are able to exercise prudent and reasonable practices, then you can surely engage in practices of buying on the dip or even shaving off a little bit of bitcoin at various points in which the BTC price rips UPwardly a lot.. and sure the BTC price might not correct back down, but if you figure out how to sell small amounts of BTC, then you should not necessarily be concerned if you ended up being correct or not about anticipating a correction.. and surely it is not easy to get ahead of the BTC price and that is frequently why some guys will refuse to sell any BTC at all while they are in their accumulation phase until they get to a certain level of profits and also a certain level of accumulation... so sometimes any sales of BTC will end up falling into a category of spend and replace within a fairly short period of time.
The opportunity to buy wisely, of course, when prices fall. Yes, sometimes the moment is missed for us because we don't have the funds available to buy at a sudden drop in price. At the same time we only make purchases according to the planning in the Strategy stage that we do with DCA. In fact, of course it makes sense if we make a trade that buys when the price goes down and takes profit when the price goes up, but this pattern is only to be played for the short term, not the long term. Like what you have done where you have held BTC from 2013 until now.
683  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 09, 2023, 07:33:17 AM
Yeah it was an important win for Arsenal and they still hold an unbeaten record, I would be happy if another team could destroy Manchester City's dominance and that should happen in the Premier League because there are several strong teams there. Arsenal might do the same thing as last season but I am worried about their performance at the end of the season, we know last season Arsenal almost won the title but they missed an important opportunity at the end of the season, so Manchester City managed to take advantage of this opportunity. What do you think about Arsenal's chances this season?
Arsenal managed to maintain a very impressive rally this season because in 8 matches they managed to maintain their performance as well as possible. If you look at Arsenal's game in this match, they managed to show a brilliant performance because to be able to beat Manchester City you need a good pattern of play in attack or defense. The narrow victory with a score of 1-0 indicates how tight this match was. But for Manchester City they reaped bad results in the previous match and Arsenal can take advantage of that to extend Manchester City's bad streak. Arsenal were able to cover this week with impressive expectations but I want to see them be consistent throughout the season and not repeat mistakes like last season.

1 goal from Martinelli is enough to prove how strong they are this season. Arteta praised his players to the skies after winning points in this match. Because the players were able to put in a good effort in the second half to improve their game. The competition at the top of the standings is getting more and more interesting, especially as these three teams are quite close on points so Manchester City could return to the top of the standings if Arsenal and Tottenham are not able to maintain their best performance. Arsenal also need to improve their performance in the Champions League this season as the defeat to Lens was quite a surprise for us.
684  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 08, 2023, 09:50:52 PM
3-1 for Fiorentina.
Napoli destroyed!

Rudi Garcia will not stay too long if he continues like this it will not last until Xmas.
Napoli's performance this season in Serie A seems to be faltering because they won in the previous match and failed again in today's match. The defeat at home was unexpected, especially with a score of 1-3. I think Napoli will not be able to show their consistency in Serie A like they did in the previous season. Spalletti's departure was very difficult for Napoli because only he could raise the enthusiasm of Napoli players to win the Scudetto. Rudi Garcia was increasingly under pressure in his first season with Napoli due to unstable performance in Serie A which made Napoli fail to stick closely to the top ranked teams.

In fact, Osimhen experienced a quite sharp decline in performance this season because he was so active in scoring goals and helping Napoli win last season but this season he failed to do so. Moreover, in the previous week we saw an internal problem between Osimhen and Napoli because of a video uploaded on TikTok by Napoli. I think he will leave Napoli and join another team in the winter transfer window.
685  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: October 08, 2023, 09:42:00 PM
Unpredictable based on all your prediction about easily for Barcelona winning over Granada, first half seems excited with Granada lead 2-1 from Barcelona are favorite team for winning this match. Have impressive achievement by Granada on first half with success managed 2-0 before Lamine Yamal score one goals on last minutes of first half. Absent of Robert Lewandowski have bigger problem for Barcelona but left second half and how possibility with Barcelona come back or get loss their three points on away match against Granada.
If loss three points will make Barcelona have gap 4 points behind Real Madrid in current standings La Liga position.
With the results that Barcelona got in today's match, they failed to shift Girona's ranking in second place and also opened up the opportunity for Atletico Madrid to move Barcelona's ranking because Atletico Madrid has 1 match remaining due to being postponed. But this week we have seen the strength of Girona who were able to close this week in second place in the standings, they were better than Barcelona this week because Girona managed to get 3 points while Barcelona had 1 point.

So, look at the match between Granada vs Barcelona. Indeed, before the match started, we were sure that Barcelona could win this match because the opponent was a team at the bottom of the standings. But in the match, Granada was able to play quite well by scoring an early goal, even at the end of the first half, Granada managed to lead the match with a score of 2-1. But unfortunately for Gradana they were not able to play well enough in the second half which allowed Barcelona to equalize through Roberto's goal in the 85th minute.
686  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 08, 2023, 09:25:25 PM
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Do you think that if we all hodl, the value of coin will go up?
The strongest reason that holding Bitcoin is better than holding Shitcoin,
Bitcoin is better than shitcoins and not everyone knows this, so not everyone is keeping their bitcoins. There will not be a time when everybody into bitcoin will be keeping their bitcoins, because not everybody that has bitcoin has strong discipline to keep it, and some others know bitcoin for use as transaction, and there are also the people who are more focused on keeping altcoins instead of bitcoins. For that reason, no matter how much people say an investor in bitcoin should keep their bitcoins for as long as possible, everyone will not still be able to keep it. There will always be people using bitcoins and not just keeping it to increase in value in their wallet.
They have not felt regret, big losses and stiffness in their minds about the Shitcoin they bought. Market dominance is controlled by Bitcoin so there is no reason if they don't have Bitcoin in their portfolio. Although sometimes it takes them a long time to make themselves aware that investing in Shitcoin will bring them to Rekt. But if they realize it earlier it's certainly better because they can use the money to buy Bitcoin instead of losing everything if the Shitcoin they hold goes to Zero.

I understand your point. But everyone has their stages to reach the final level in Bitcoin investment before they sell their holdings. In this pattern everyone is looking for a profit in their investment and if they already get it will probably sell their Bitcoin holdings and Buy again at a lower price level. Everyone is looking for profit and not to hold it for life because we need to enjoy the benefits of our investment to buy what we dream of in our life. I explained that everyone has their own stages and has a target for when to come out and when to buy again.
687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: October 08, 2023, 09:08:43 PM
I believe that the reason they don't blame Mbappe is because he does his job well on the field and this is something visible to all people when they watch PSG games, when PSG doesn't score any goals yet they see that in that game in which he He didn't score a goal, he helped the team a lot in other ways. and when we look at the available budget that PSG has and what it has done, then there is no way not to blame the management and the coach when there are bad results. For example, this season, this squad that was built, what is its objective? win the European champions league? win league 1? If we ask any PSG fan if they see this current squad as being capable of winning the European Champions League, I believe the answer will be that they don't see this squad being capable of winning the European Champions League.

PSG signed Messi, Neymar, Di Maria and other good players in the past seasons, but they were unable to hire a good coach and keep all the good players until they managed to win the European Champions League. and as a result we are seeing the team's performance drop, this is the fault of the management who don't know what they want. When there are good players on the market the management doesn't go after them, but then they sign players that don't make any sense, there were Lewandowski, Haaland, and other good players that in the past they could spend money and buy and that today would be very useful in the attack of PSG, in midfield and defense. PSG's management has been a disaster in the transfer windows and in hiring coaches
Mbappe has made a big contribution to PSG in every match he plays. Well, if fans blame Mbappe because PSG failed to win against Newcastle United in the Champions League then that is quite unnatural because fans have to look at all aspects of what is happening with PSG this season. Where the changes made by management have not proven that the team's performance is truly stable in every match. Even Luis Enrique has maximized the experience he has to apply it to the PSG game, but he has not succeeded in forming a strong enough team and of course he needs time to do all that.

I think they should have a stronger prioritization of their targets after buying a lot of players in this season's transfer window. Even now, all eyes are on PSG because they were surprisingly beaten by a team of newcomers. PSG's big target is of course the UCL Trophy which they have been trying for every season but they have not succeeded in doing so. Maybe PSG should look at Manchester City's way of winning the UCL Trophy where the management must entrust their coach for the long term, not just 1 or 2 seasons and after that there will be another replacement.
688  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 08, 2023, 08:35:18 PM
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What's the point of HODLing bitcoins? Do you think that if we all hodl, the value of coin will go up? Why do you expect increased demand on bitcoin in case of hodl when there are alternative cryptocurrencies? There is no point to hodl money, money has to be in circulation in order for new products to be created and for services to be done. That's how this world works and functions.
And one of the best options for holding Bitcoin will not make us experience a Rugpull like what happened to other shitcoins like FTX and Luna. Many investors have lost their money investing in Shitcoin so wouldn't it be a valuable lesson for all to prioritize their investment in Bitcoin.

The strongest reason that holding Bitcoin is better than holding Shitcoin, because Bitcoin has seen better price increases from year to year. Even if someone has 1000 Shitcoins in their portfolio then when compared to someone who holds 1 Bitcoin in their wallet in the next 10 years then the victory will belong to the Bitcoin holder rather than the Shitcoin. I admit everyone probably has shitcoins in their portfolio even if it's no more than 1% of their assets. I'm not even that interested in shitcoins because I already have the confidence to just keep Bitcoin in my portfolio and Bitcoin is the one that we have right now.
689  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: October 07, 2023, 10:13:50 PM
Bayern are having the best of times. They are playing very steadily and I even think they can reach the Champions League final. Although Galatasaray are also playing well both away and at home. But I think it will be an easy game for Bayern. Galatasaray are strong in the Turkish League, but Bayern are much stronger.
In the next match, Galatasaray will host Bayern Munich.  Despite being the host in the upcoming match, I still believe that Bayern Munich will be able to beat Galatasaray in front of their supporters. Indeed, in the previous match, Galatasaray showed their best strength after successfully beating Manchester United at Old Trafford stadium. However, Bayern Munich is one of the strongest teams in the Champions League so it will be quite difficult for Galatasaray to beat Bayern Munich.

It is certain that Bayern Munich will be chasing three consecutive wins in the Champions League when they travel to the Rams Park stadium to face Galatasaray. Tuchel will not waste the opportunity to achieve maximum results in every match because they really have quite good quality players this season so that will make them favorites in this match. The third match of the group phase will be at the end of this month so there is still plenty of time for both teams to prepare their best strengths for the next match.
690  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2023/24 Season on: October 07, 2023, 10:03:13 PM
That's only happen if leverkusen and liverpool will able to beat the rest of teams int he competition but this is unlikely to happen. Im not skeptic with the possibility of final between leverkusen and liverpool but im concerning about there will be alot of strong teams to come. Leverkusen was doing a good deal of progress since xabi was coming to the club. It will be very interesting to have that final between liverpool vs leverkuen but the chance is pretty small.
Leverkusen can lose anytime like previous season even though xabi's team is well prepared this season but im still feeling skeptic. Sevilla may also able to enter this competition again as king of europa league.
We have to wait for the big teams who failed in the Champions League and joined the European League this season. Yes, at least we want to see Leverkusen vs Liverpool in the final this season. But Roma cannot be underestimated this season because they were runners up last season and of course they will be able to put a lot of pressure on other teams in this season's competition. Even though Liverpool is quite superior, it is possible that we will see another team in the European League final this season.

Like last season, we believed Arsenal was the favorite team to reach the final but in fact they were eliminated by another team. In fact, this season the competition will be even tighter, if new entrants can disrupt everything, of course all the predictions stated so far will be difficult to come true. Indeed, Liverpool is a team that has better abilities compared to other teams, so Liverpool must be able to maintain their best form if they want to advance to the final this season.
691  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 07, 2023, 09:49:26 PM
In my opinion, establishing bitcoin as a risky investment is a must because after all this is one of the risky investments and indeed we must be aware that it is a fact that cannot be changed but of course we have a choice with the risks that exist in bitcoin because we can skip it if we can't afford it even though it's a pity if it's missed or maybe the second option where we are ready to face all the risks that exist in bitcoin with the belief that bitcoin can be something better than today in the future by looking at the progress that bitcoin has had for more than a decade.
The choice of people who are in bitcoin now is to face that risk and consider it a process from us to be in bitcoin so that we can be at this point where we become an investor by continuing to invest in bitcoin regularly.
Make no mistake even though the progress and prospects of bitcoin are very good but we should not assume that this is not risky because when you are wrong in strategizing and wrong in understanding bitcoin you can actually get a loss from what you do in bitcoin.
You keep saying risky, risky and risky. Yes, that is something we don't want in the investments we make. In terms of experience, you already have many ways to minimize the risk of the investments you make using various methods that you have previously understood. Even though sometimes the word risk is quite haunting in our minds, we are ready for these consequences. As long as I implement the DCA Strategy, I think we will be able to minimize the risks that we will accept if it does or does not actually happen. We are ready to face whatever happens in the future.

Everyone has their own principles in how to invest in Bitcoin, whether by DCA or by buying instantly. However, I think Bitcoin investment is more profitable than the risks you mentioned. The supply of Bitcoin is limited and there is no inflation that occurs therefore we are confident that we will make a profit in the investment we make in Bitcoin. Keep buying gradually and hold on for a long time.
692  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 06, 2023, 11:58:52 PM
The hope is like that and indeed they must continue to try better so that the criticism that has been directed at Chelsea turns into praise because in the end they also realize that if they don't change then this will only make Chelsea suffer more.
At least the last 2 win in the EFL and EPL in the last 2 weeks make them more confident besides, seeing them compete last week against Fulham, Poche should know that the 4-3-3 formation is good to be used as a formation choice instead of forcing with 4-2-3-1 which even though it is good for midfield but difficult to finishing.
Chelsea won previously against Fulham and of course that will make them more confident for the next match. This week Chelsea will face a team with a low ranking in the standings, this will certainly be an easy match for them to maintain their performance. However, situations are sometimes difficult to predict because their performance is sometimes unstable, making Chelsea fail to maintain their winning streak. Burnley are not a strong team this season because they have been so bad at the start of this season.

Pochettino must be able to maximize his team's strengths as best as possible to be able to steal full points at home to Burnley. Yes, I prefer the 4-3-3 formation because it can maximize their play in attacking or defensive strategies. But it's up to Pochettino because he really understands the character of his new players this season so a good strategy is one that is easy for his players to understand.
693  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: October 06, 2023, 11:45:44 PM
I'm not sure if Leverkusen can fight in the Europa League and Bundesliga at the same time because we know they are in a good situation in Bundesliga and there is even the chance for them to end this season at the top of the table racing with Bayern Munich but usually, teams like Leverkusen with lower investments than Bayern Munich will have harder times in the last weeks of the season and they will lose their place time after time.
But still, the performance of Leverkusen was good against Molde however they could even score more goals against this team.
Leverkusen is still on its best path both in the European League and the Bundesliga. Even though they don't have players who really stand out in individual quality, teamwork has given birth to a stronger pattern of play which they have displayed at the start of this season. Indeed, competing against Bayern Munich is quite a tough thing for Leverkusen, but if Xabi Alonso succeeds in making his team perform consistently throughout this season, then they will be able to achieve their dream of winning the Bundesliga Trophy this season.

I think we should not link large investments in the progress of a team. Because in other leagues, if we see a team spending quite a lot of money to bring in lots of star players, but in reality they are also having problems in making a team stronger. Xabi Alonso has a squad that easily understands what he wants so we are sure Leverkusen can dispel any rumors that say they will not be ready to compete until the end of this season.
694  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: October 06, 2023, 11:29:37 PM
That's still hard to predict this game with two days left and I'm sure Arteta wants to take revenge because of what they lost in the last season. Arsenal hot improved a lot and they bought many players during the summer which can help the team to have a better performance time time against Manchester City. Also, they can use their player Saka, while he was injured until a few days ago. The rates for both teams are near and in the last five meets they had, Manchester City won four games and Arsenal won one game.
This match has attracted the attention of many football fans in this part of the world. The match between Arsenal vs Manchester City is a match that has been eagerly awaited this season because these two teams showed quite a competition last season and they are still doing it this season. Manchester City is still quite strong even though Kevin De Bruyne was absent for quite a long time this season due to his injury, but Manchester City is still quite strong this season. Manchester City has a lot of high quality players this season which makes Manchester City very comfortable when facing their opponents.

For Arsenal, of course they still quite remember when they were beaten by Manchester City last season in the race for the title. Well, they can avenge their defeat in this match if they succeed in doing so. But unfortunately it is believed that Saka will not be able to play in this match because he suffered an injury in the previous match. Even though Arsenal is without Saka in this big match, of course we still hope they can make Manchester City suffer their second defeat in the Premier League this season.
695  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 05, 2023, 10:12:05 PM
Al-ittihad are one of the strongest teams this season in the SPL and their performance has been so brilliant that's why they're currently in the 2nd place in the table with about 19 points, 3 points above Al-Ahli,  however in the match between both teams, Al-ittihad are favourites to win the game cause they're performing better and are playing with a home advantage and according to their head to head games Al-ittihad have been more dominant and has won more matches in their past 5 games and now they got more European players especially Kareem Benzema and Ngolo kante in their team, they stand a better chance to win the game.

 Al-ittihad need to win the game else they'll drop points and give other teams opportunities to top them, therefore they need to be careful and not underestimate their opponent,  even though they're favorites to win the game.
Al Ettifaq really failed in today's match against Al Fateh because they were beaten at home. Gerrad again failed to score points in this match because Al Ettifaq was defeated in the final minutes of the match through Djaniny's goal. This failure meant that Al Ettifaq failed to break into the top 4 this week because they were still stuck in 6th place in the standings. In fact, there is a big possibility that Al Ettifaq's ranking will be shifted again by Al Ahli if Al Ahli is able to get 3 points in tomorrow's match.

Tomorrow's match will have lots of interesting matches to watch, one of which is Al Ittihad vs Al Ahli because these two teams are big teams in the Saudi Arabian league. We will see Benzema vs Firmino in this match, can they bring luck to their respective teams. I believe Al Ittihad is very superior in this match because they are playing at home and also have an impressive record in their last 5 matches.
696  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Knowledge vs hodlings on: October 05, 2023, 09:49:02 PM
Having the opportunity to have $25,000 in 2016 when the bitcoin price was still around $500-$700 is a rare opportunity.
I only got into crypto at the beginning of 2016 and only became active and focused in 2017.

If you buy with 1% of the funds you have at that time, of course, you will get a profit.
But can you hold it until now?

Even though at that time Bitcoin was quite hyped and Bitcoin was the undoubted king of coins.
But indeed bitcoin still doesn't have as much power as it does today.

There will be no loss if you go into Bitcoin investment, as long as you don't go into shitcoin investment which will definitely be a lot of losses.

Fix the past by starting to buy Bitcoin at a good opportunity right now.
Chances are you won't see cheap prices like now.

It seems that in that year, precisely in 2017, Bitcoin was very booming because it recorded ATH that year if I'm not mistaken. Many of them actually sold their holdings to take advantage at that time. But if they don't buy it again it will definitely be the biggest regret for them. I also felt the same way at that time because I sold some of my BTC just to gamble and that was the worst decision I made.  So, seeing the increasingly advanced development of Bitcoin, it would be incomplete for us if we don't have Bitcoin in our portfolio.

To enter at the current price is quite appropriate because Bitcoin, if I pay attention, is in the sideway phase, which is the best option for accumulating Bitcoin. I only buy Bitcoin with DCA which I do every 2 weeks or once a week but it all depends on the income I get. But I will not skip any steps to buy Bitcoin because I will treat my regret first by buying BTC and continuing to accumulate it.
697  Economy / Speculation / Re: Buy the DIP, and HODL! on: October 05, 2023, 09:28:36 PM
Although some of them think that Bitcoin is too expensive, it is a stupid mistake that they have thought. I had a chance to chat with several people where I live discussing Bitcoin investment. But they firmly said that Bitcoin was too expensive for us and we were no longer very interested in Bitcoin investment. I explained in detail but they still answered like that. Can any of you provide stronger encouragement for me to convey to them that Bitcoin investment is the best investment at the moment and does not measure the price because Bitcoin supply is limited. Maybe I'll wait for your explanation.

However, I still adhere to my stance that I will continue to accumulate Bitcoin at every stage because I don't really care about empty talk from out there. Because we will take advantage at some point in the future for what we have done in investing in Bitcoin. They are stupid not to learn and even more stupid not to invest in Bitcoin.
698  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It is only Bitcoin and nothing else on: October 05, 2023, 09:13:49 PM
There is a power within compounding and exponentials... so if the BTC price is going up through the years, and maybe not very clearly over a few years, but over a cycle or two, you are able to see a kind of stablizing and building upon itself in such a way that after a certain passage of time, it becomes quite difficult to push the BTC price below certain price points. 
With all the experiences you have shared, of course it is in accordance with what I said before, where holding BTC for a long period of time promises greater profits. Because it is based on several interesting things regarding the future development of Bitcoin, be it mass adoption or lots of positive news that can make Bitcoin prices rise significantly.
Easier said than done.  Unless you have a lot of confidence in your various other investments (so I guess I am speaking towards diversification.. but not into shitcoins), it can be quite difficult to see your investment go up 50x or more, and sure I am not even claiming my own to currently be up more than 27x, since I like to use $1k as my average cost per BTC... .. and so you can imagine  that at some point there's gotta be some shaving off, and figuring out how to deal with the volatility without screwing things up.. ....
No, I'm not interested in the word diversification. You seem to imagine that it will be very difficult for us to achieve large profits in the coming years.
I think that you took my points differently than I had intended because I was mostly attempting to describe the various challenges in investing into BTC and also holding for the long term... so "easier said than done" has to do with how difficult it can be to HODL or keep buying or to just have some solid strategies (that could even include some selling on the way up and buy on the way down), especially when profits can sometimes seem to become so great so quickly.
I understand what you have explained, moreover, you explain it in stages which is very easy for us to understand. Yes, sudden profits are indeed a temptation for us to take them, but that is a trial that we must pass if our planning is to hold out in the long term. But I admit that there are many strategies that make us confident to hold on for the long term, one of which is profits that are multiples of the profits that are coming now. Of course that motivation is what makes us optimistic to continue to focus on accumulating Bitcoin at every stage. Our motivation grew to hold Bitcoin for a long period because of several facts that we saw. For example, you, you bought BTC in 2013 and held your BTC holdings for a long time, of course if you look at the profit ROI, of course you have made profits that you didn't expect before.

Therefore we want to follow your lead in continuing to hold Bitcoin for the long term. Moreover, the halving will occur next year, Bitcoin will automatically increase in price if you look at the history of the halving 4 years ago. There is no more effective strategy than DCA which we have implemented. Maybe one day we will start with larger capital if we get money from bonuses where we work.
699  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: October 04, 2023, 09:53:27 PM
Al-Hilal didn't lose any match yet and they are trying their best to keep the first spot for them. Their 2 draws made the others close to them. Al-Ittihad and Al-Nassr are heavy contenders for the title also but I am impressed with Al-Taawoun and Al-Ettifaq resistance so far among the top teams.
After all the SPL teams have finished their 8th match of the season and it can be seen which team is the most consistent in maintaining their form this season. For Al Hilal, they are one of the teams that have never experienced defeat, which makes them sit comfortably in 1st place in the standings. Al Hilal's defense is quite strong and they have many top European players in their squad this season. However, looking at the condition of the teams ranked in the top 4 of the Saudi Arabian league, it seems that there is not a big enough difference in their points tally, I mean if a match every week can change their ranking in the standings table.

Al Nassr also performed quite well, they were able to win many matches after a not very good start to the season. Al Ittihad will face Al Ahli in this week's match. I think this match will be quite a big match in the SPL because it brings together two teams that have many top European players in their squad. Maybe I will support Al Ittihad to win this match. Al Naasr will also face Abha in tomorrow's match. Maybe this is an easy match for Al Nassr and I think they will be able to win this match easily.
700  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Berani mengambil resiko apakah salah satu tindakan menuju sukses on: October 04, 2023, 09:37:14 PM
Hamir semua investasi atau bisnis yang kita bangun pasti memiliki resiko ke depannya, namun disini dituntut untuk bisa seminimal mungkin mengantisipasi dalam setiap resiko yang akan terjadi ke depannya. Tentunya jika ingin sukses dalam sebuah bisnis investasi baik itu di bisnis real atau investasi di dunia harus siap resiko yang akan terjadi ke depannya, kebanyakan dari investor saat ini hanya siap di posisi menguntungkan atau profit saja namun saat posisi rugi atau resiko bisnis yang dihadapi belum memiliki mental yang kuat sehingga banyak yang gagal di investasi mencari alternatif lain mulai percobaan bunuh diri hingga melakukan kasus pidana lainnya.
Resiko hal yang tidak dapat kita hindari saat berinvestasi, harus cermat dan sangat hati-hati dalam memilih koin yang akan digunakan untuk berinvestasi terutama di krypto, jangan sampai kesalahan kecil memberikan dampak dan resiko yang cukup besar ke depannya.
Semua ada resiko bahkan besar atau kecil dan tergantung sama mereka pandai pandai mereka untuk memanfaatkan moment saja. menurut saya untuk investasi crypto tidak ada resiko yang cukup besar seperti yang menghantui pikiran para orang orang awam tentang ctypto katanya investasi di crypto bisa kehilangan uang tapi yang telah saya rasakan malah investasi di crypto bisa menguntungkan jika kita sudah memiliki pengetahuan tentang crypto. semua terserah sama mereka mau mulai dari yang mana, baik dari spot atau futures. kalau mereka tidak terlalu paham pastinya resiko kerugian akan selalu datang kepada mereka. tapi jika mereka berinvestasi di bitcoin tentu saja peluang mereka untuk meraih keuntungan lebih besar dan jauh dari kata resiko.
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