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6841  Economy / Gambling / Re: What is the best bitcoin casino? on: October 09, 2016, 01:17:02 PM
I use cloudbet , in my opinion it is the best , gives you sign up bonus up to 5 BTC
Yes i also use cloudbet as well and they provide sign up bonus upto 5BTC so it is best for those who likes to gamble with bigger amounts because is some bets they will keep recieving 0.01btc bonus after they reach the loyality points which they can achieve if they are playing with big amounts.


I like cloudbet but i think we must be carefull for huge deposit amount since they are having some withdrawal issues existing, and also betcoin.ag is best since you can mingle many gamblers at that site  and talk some strategies you can share and also they have many choices of games that can people select for,  but we must gamble with extra precaution since we cannot really get back easily if we lose our money in their casino games
6842  Economy / Marketplace / Re: What kind of service/business would you create if you had funding and.... on: October 09, 2016, 12:40:59 PM
if i had a lot of money, I probably going to open bitcoin casino because I think that the most profitable business in bitcoin is gambling, but in order to open the business i will need a lot of money and a great system and security, the other business that i would do is create a big e-commerce website like amazon but my site is going to use bitcoin as payment
This seems a working idea, as I have not heard the any physical casino with bitcoin payment acceptance.
Opening a online casino a is much easier than physical ones as there are a lot of regulations we need to follow for opening a physical casino. But it is highly dependent on your country. But when you are having lot of money, it really doesn't matter.

Casino well be a good idea but come to think of it do you think you can surpass easily those who exist and got more trust to the gamblers? Im sure that new site needs advertisement and the big question there really is your funds can sustain the advertisement for longer days? If not well i think the casino site plan will be bluff since it cannot get nor reach to the knowledge of people and surely many people would got some doubts to play in your site if it is unknown and got no reputation.
6843  Other / Off-topic / Re: When is it useful to borrow bitcoin? on: October 09, 2016, 11:24:33 AM
There are some sites like trading and gambling sites that have minimal withdrawals, sometimes they can be as high as 0.1 bitcoin, a loan could be used to add enough bitcoin to the account to withdraw everything. This is just one example which would be a good reason to loan bitcoins.

Whenever you use borrowed money you will see it can get you into big problems. That's why I would advice to use your own money to trade or gamble coins.
See it is a risk free way to go though life.


Right because you will surely face some bad consequences regarding for your debts and you might gonna get into a big trouble if the barrower cannot pays the debt in the desired payment time, thats why its very advisable to all of people to not barrow some money if they don't need those one, this barrowing option is right when people really needs money in some emergency situation, and so for that barrowing is not necessary and just be satisfied for what we have to have a great life with less problem.
6844  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: How much would it cost to create a trustworthy good coin? on: October 09, 2016, 10:55:36 AM
A trustworthy coin needs a regular trustworthy team behind it so it wouldn't be a fixed rate but rather a continuous expenditure that will be paid per month to team members. Just for starting, I suppose 10 to 15BTC might be the actual starting expense in which it depends on duration of it as well, then it goes up from there. Skilled developers don't come cheap.


10-15 btc is not enough since dev can spend more money for developments and payed big for those who create his coin or build a team and i can't imagine how it will cost him since im not expert nor have knowledge for coin making, but to sealed up this question OP should seek for adviser or shall we say find a better team who can create coin and develop it for him so he can make his dream coin turn to reality, and im sure to make good coin takes many months to develop it seriously.
6845  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is amazon will be accepting bitcoins in the future? on: October 08, 2016, 09:33:49 PM
Lets hope it will, I have some good hope that it will get accepted, I think that we just need to wait on a a better price and that it than will get accepted.
We just need to get it bigger, how bigger how better because of the fact that Amazon than has to accept it.
I don’t think this is a problem of price, the problem is adoption, if enough people demanded that amazon accepted bitcoin, the CEO of Amazon will do anything in order to accept bitcoins.
The requests about bitcoin at amazon should be very low, otherwise they would make a trial period to see how the bitcoin market might be usefull for amazon or not, but i heard they are making their own currencie.


It is just a rumored but i think it will take time to approve and let that happen, and maybe acceptnce on trial perion really can help just like what steam do but not totally sure that it will click 100% positively since not all their shopper use bitcoin as their online currency, so i think this one will be a long talk,speculation and never disscusion unless amazon will give an updates about this big acceptance in their business, but if all bitcoin user who usually shop their will make some petition i think they will surely approve that if they can see a large number of their possible prospects.
6846  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: How much would it cost to create a trustworthy good coin? on: October 08, 2016, 12:08:40 PM
Hey OP you are missing  some important person behind the coin.

You have not mentioned the Web developer, Web designer, this is a different job that  makes your project goes online or at least professional enough when presented online.  This people will develop and design everyting that is on internet, from simple graphics to integrations of projects.  for a small to big project, a website is  a must.

I'm interested in this thread because I'm working on a game that I want to release, at least an alpha version at the end of the year.  I've got many of the same challenges that you do, other than the actual development of a coin, in my case it's a game which I'm doing the dev work on. I've also got a background in IT security, so I've got that part of it as well. I've been parsing out bits and pieces of code to another developer now and again to help.  However, for the designer/marketing role, I need someone with the same experience as well. I can't really figure out how these projects like incent or firstblood end up building a team. You don't see them post here, like "Hey I have a project and I need a team", so where/how do they build these teams?

It is possible that they already  known each other from some community forum not here in bitcointalk



Well i think he just hired a coin developer for his coin project and no real team behind on those one, but at this state? I think this coin will be good if the dev/OP will have a great vision for his new coin project and this one will take some months before it will be really reach for the minds crypto enthusiast,

And @ OP if you have really a team of developer well you can list them in your ANN so people could see the team working behind of that new crypto and maybe it can help to thay coin to be buyable ones when ICO starts.
6847  Economy / Securities / Re: Which online investment is good to venture in now? on: October 08, 2016, 11:36:34 AM
try to do some lending business either study how it is working from polo or how can you manage it correctly here in this forum, making btc lending can make you got good interest in return mate so instead of looking for online investment much better to create your own business.


Lending business is still have a risk since their are so many loan defaulter are scattered in this furom, but if lender select to get such huge and stable collateral well i think it is the best thing they can do and also they can make sure that still they can earn when they sell the collateral of those lazy barrower,

So at this days i think theres no really best on those investment platform who's existing today since all of them are high provabilities to be scam.
6848  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: Would you buy a hardware wallet? on: October 07, 2016, 02:33:44 PM
Maybe in the future that I would buy a hardware wallet but right now I'm pretty happy with my nice paper wallet I'm having right now.
Its a good wallet and I right now also love it more than a hardware one.

Me either I'm also planning to buy hardware wallet in the future but as of now I am very satisfied on what I have and what I am using which is online bitcoin wallet. Because it is free, and I don't have to invest with it too. But for holding bitcoins for longer time hardware wallets are good to consider but you need to invest with it too.

For me? I don't have any plans to buy such any hardware wallets since i am not an big holders who wants to hold any longer and i guess the people who needs that are those business man and big whales on tradings since they can assure thay there allocated money are in safe waet aswell us they can make sure that they will not bwe compromise by such account locking.
6849  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform ❘|❘ ICO CLOSED on: October 07, 2016, 02:03:17 PM
I dont know but after ICO got finished now they are asking ids and all personal details, even if we are claiming only bounty is it necessary to issue the ids , as i have still not done anything,

I think its very risky for our side to give that details since our info might gonna compromise if bad things will be happen but btw where did you get that info thay we need to give our id's and other identity to claim those bounties?? Does it is stated on their site or in articles? But for now don't give your id's first just wait for the official announcement if the devs really required that one, but in my opinion about giving that information is TO Much.
6850  Economy / Securities / Re: Which online investment is good to venture in now? on: October 07, 2016, 11:01:57 AM
right now I like altcoin's ICO's. they also have risk of loosing but some of them brilliant to invest..
you can venture in a good and new altcoin's ICO..

i agree with these one ICO's is the most ideal investment for these days since the online world is splattered by those scam sites, but we should be more vigilant and selective for those ICO's since there are numerous of them can be turned scam, so for that we should be carefull and look for the best coin with great community and choose those one with great community support like ICONOMI.
6851  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Steam accepting btc - will it affect the forum market? on: October 07, 2016, 10:10:40 AM
yes it will affect forum market lots of people having spare codes and earning game items will wnt to sell for bitcoin and alot of them will be on forums like these cause this is one of the biggest ones so yes i think so also i willl participate in this.

Well I do believe that acceptance of steam with bitcoin did really contribute to the rapid price increase that happened last month.

Because that is going to add up some amount and demand in the market as the users are going to be more too. So I do believed that it is really affecting market.

Right? I think so too steam accepting bitcoin didn't only profit for steam but it was also a very good move for bitcoin itself.
Made it even more known in the digital world which causes more money into bitcoin from people buying them.


its a good move for them since bitcoin users have alternative choices to pay them and steam can get a bunch of costumers since bitcoin users are globally used by peoples here, steam gets huge advertisement from bitcoin and bitcoin get same exposure for both party acceptance, so i really can say that both bitcoin and steam gets counter good benifits by acceptance, but let's hope and wait for other to accept bitcoins so we can see some mass adoption happened after it and this coin will surely gets more life if this chain adoption will be happe.
6852  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: FISSIONCOIN on: October 04, 2016, 09:33:05 AM
fisioncoin only ponzy scheme
not crypto coin market, so you can write is righ placed section investor based game

Why do you say it is a ponzi ? It is not an investor based game it is an altcoin. I tried it and I too though it might be a scam but it is good have a look at the site. Though I will say I would not invest large amount just incase.
It's not part of altcoin you can trade with exchanger that's why it will be difficult to recover your loss if they run and that's what happened now too many coin created just to scam or just another ponzi scheme hide in crypto currency ralated coin. but it's fake after all.

So it turns out it is a scam and has shutdown completely. That is a nice way of getting peoples numbers. I wonder how many registered ? I know I did ^^ Thankfully I never put any money in.
I also registered in fissioncoin last month but we're lucky to send any of our money in that site. I searched it first ig theres available exchanger than we can change it to btc but no I cant find it. And I think that's the same with other hyip investment .and I'm right and that's a good decision not try this one.

I dont reall be amaze by this coin since i think this one is just like others who have been existed and used the cryptocoin exposure so people would really attract to invest into it, and at first really i'm doubting that this one is a hyip/ponzi so i dont bother to invest even a single penny on them,

So if people think investing on this one i think they should do some background checking of this coin, so their money will not be compromised by those frauds hiding beneath on their bad sites.
Yeah and it dont know why op still selling his coin when the this coin already scam and no one will accept it even if they sell it much cheaper this kind of coin no use right now.

Maybe he want's to sell it so he can regain back his money eventhough he sold it at the cheaper price,

but i dont see some point why would people gonna buy this one since this is declared as scam and not worthy to buy even from the start of its existence, i think many people aware that fission scheme is done and they provably brought up the money already.
6853  Economy / Economics / Re: panic selling on: October 04, 2016, 08:50:13 AM
 Smiley
Panic selling has alot of effect on the price of bitcoin. What makes the price is selling and buying so whenever these events happen the prices tend to swing.
The best is for people to spend their bitc in a normal way this way we will only have price increases as more investors start to show interest.
I think when prices rise at bitcoin you can not tell someone to keep quiet and do things as usual. I'm sure they are automatically going to panic and sell as much as possible their bitcoin. because I'm sure they will think that this is the right time to sell


Thats newbies mindset or shall we say contented people but i don't actually call it panic selling since many people do that everyday and it is part of transaction with bitcoins, but if something bad rumors are scattered and a mass of people are starting to sell their coins is actually a panic selling since they are afraid from losing in some bad info regarding to bitcoins breakdown of price, and also i think if panic selling is temporarily to be happened and they will be back and stake again with bitcoins.
6854  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOU market by Liqui Exchange - discussion thread on: October 04, 2016, 08:15:03 AM
Do you think IOU will destroy the price of an ico coin?

Thanks

Clear your question please. IOU is good for any ICO, because investors have less risks and can out to BTC from ICO coin any time.

Maybe he's question is if The ICO is on IOU does it have possibilities that the ICO price of certain coin will be compromise?

And here's my own question for IOU topic since you are opening this thread thas the price of IOU coin example is ICONOMI is that accurate for the ICN token price when it is released in the market? And if not what if the price of your IOU coin is greater than or less than on other exchanger what is your counter measure to correct it without compromising the old IOU holders?
6855  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Starting a Bitcoin and Crypto Exchange like Poloniex on: October 04, 2016, 07:16:20 AM
with 1k BTC you can buy poloniex  Wink

I don't think I can. they make that profit per month so they wouldn't sell it for 1x only Smiley

You are very right with that provababilities that they will just ignore your 1k btc since they are earning more revenue for their site, and if you want to make really i think you need to get some partner who's knowledgable about running on those thing and 1k btc huge but not enough since their are so many factors where you need to spend mor btc to get more beautiful and interactive exchanger aswell as you need some budget to advertise it to the people who are trading enthusiast.
6856  Economy / Speculation / Re: Predict the price: Halving day 2020 on: October 04, 2016, 06:40:44 AM
I dont want to assume yet. Look how can they predict the price in 2020 of they cant even predict whats going to be the price in 2017. Even a fortune teller cant tell it accurately.
Well, maybe it was a year very much. you're right, maybe we do not know what will happen in 2017, but I felt that bitcoin will be growing from year to year, so it can say that bitcoin will be better and more popular in the future especially in 2020, and if in the future it happens halving popular, is already in make sure the price will be over the moon
2020 is four years from now so definitely the price of bitcoin that time is already over $1,000 if there is no crisis that will happen, every halving day or year we are going to experience a great reward as the price will increase, the big miners would also want that since it would be hard for them to mine they deserve a bigger value of bitcoins to continue a profitable business.


That year is very far for us to be happen but actually we can't predict tha exact price would bitcoin reach at that year, bitcoin is unpredictable and provably if we can see some success adoption or businesss acceptance well provably the price will rise for that year but if their are certain bad events like hacking of big establishments/sites well we maybe face some price breakdown, so overall thoughs about that year is undefined and big question mark brought to our minds.
6857  Other / Off-topic / Re: Is amazon will be accepting bitcoins in the future? on: October 04, 2016, 06:04:34 AM
They will accept the bitcoin soon or later because they are having to do this due to the fact that they have to keep up with others.
Its has already been said but its also true without any doubts.

I do believe it also that in the future they are going to accept it in the future. Accepting bitcoins directly for purchasing their products.

But as of now, they are still uncertain that is why they are using 3rd party websites for using bitcoins to purchase their gift cards.

And I guess that is already enough to say that amazon is considering bitcoins already.
That's so simple. you need for determining how many bitcoiners in the world and comparing with non bitcoiners in the world and you get your answer...
just accepting the payment is used by a little percentage of the total of human around the world? nothing for this time,dude


For this time well provably not and that's for sure but in future? I think theirs still big possibilities for bitcoin to be accepted bu them if the market percentage of user will rise up and surely if that really happens provably we can see the bitcoin will be accepted by them, but i think it will take a lot of debates amd speculation if it would really happen, but for now we should used those 3rd party sites who have access to buy things in amazon using our bitcoin.
6858  Economy / Speculation / Re: How long is Bitcoin life? on: October 03, 2016, 10:59:35 AM
Bitcoins are not here for a long time but for that short time he have allot of users already and that amount is just growing many, So i will see the bitcoin after 10 years to the top for sure.

You are explain just i have think about bitcoin, because we all know that may be bitcoin will be never remain forever but whenever bitcoin is here it always give us profit, and day to day the users of bitcoin is increasing,Even i never hear any bad things about bitcoin for anyone, majority are those people who like it and use it .   

You dig some long sleept thread dude, but anyways there's no exact date nor prediction on when does bitcoin would last but aslong as bitcoin is here we should cherish those earnings and benifits what bitcoin can give to us, and don't think it will vanish since i don't think it will happen really since the adoption and user base are increasing, and we really need to do for now is enjoy some earning moments.
6859  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Where i gone wrong? on: October 03, 2016, 10:16:47 AM
I tried out INCUREX for a while while it was up. The user experience was pretty bad. It like a chatroom that had a list in the front page
pretty much like a worse localbitcoin..

You could do so much better.

Sorry for that!

My aim was to make it quick and simple! but it couldn't
Now what you will recommend to me?

Well i think for rushing such thing, you made a site that make some users be annoyed, maybe you should update or refurnish and make your site more simplier yet easy to understand so people would provably love to see it, so don't rush some works and make a great plan with your site do some interactive works, look at your competitor's site and how it works maybe you can get some idea with them that you can apply to your site.
6860  Economy / Services / Re: [BitBlender] Signature Campaign - Seniors and up (Open) on: October 02, 2016, 09:04:19 PM
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