still four months left but I am pretty sure bitcoin can stay at between $ 800- $ 1000 in 2017 at least one month before the end of this year there will be a surge in the price as is that commonly occur.
I can see this being a relatively realistic estimate.Something like a $220 rise over the course of 17 months isn't unheard of for Bitcoin, and it can occur more often than not. I'm personally hoping for an upswing with the market sooner rather than later, but I'm fine with it happening whenever. i think when prices stay at around $ 220 there must be a price increase because we will face halving and for the moment there is nothing that can make the trade pushing the prices rise unless there is a large company would accept bitcoin. Halving are not gonna happen yet on 2017 but for what i've seen the rally is up and maybe in that year the price go up fore more since adoption will go spread wider and it will hit to direct markets so big possibilities that in thay year we can see those price or maybe we can see again that the price reached again at 1k+ like what have just happen before and it has high possibilities that it will happen again since history records that this price really mark up and maybe in year 2017 we can peep to that price mark. |
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paypal is actually not scamming nor a scam site,when a service is just popular and getting used by so many people,i'm sure their quality will be lowering and so many problem will occur either major or minor problem to their clients,they can't take care of their clients and can't pleasing all of their clients so it will result so many complain
PayPal is not a scam in itself. The service has been around for many years and they have a lot of trusted customers. But when you compare it with bitcoins, you will realize that bitcoin is much more user friendly and tax free and people will prefer bitcoins over paypal in the future. I'd rather agree with this paypal is not scam and doesn't have any bad image attach to it regarding to his service provided and alsoi don't see any people claiming that they are being scam by paypal, or maybe there are but i think they are doing bad against the TOS of paypal, but overall review for me paypal is good for their service provided to their user but the only thing bad i've seen in their is their ridiculous fee aming transaction given to their users. |
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I don't have all of my money in btcs but only some amount of my money is in btc, and some amount of my money is in alts, while some amount of my money is invested in a project of me. I hope I will earn from all of them.
never heard someone put all their fiat money for bitcoin before it will just like a blunder , nothing can guarantee in this bitcoin world so putting your whole money are not necessary actually just do put your a little amount of fiat money and do more often make a transansaction , that what people should did Never heard either and i don't have plan to do that sice i ca't risk all my moneybjust for this thing and i only allocate just only little percentage of it so whenever i lost on various program it will not really hurt mo so much and also i dont want to lose if bitcoin suddenly go down, so better for others for not dreaming to get wealthy on it, just make it a hobby and everyone will enjoy it just like what i feel right now for bitcoin. |
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No its not worth it anymore because of the fact the halving has ruined this, you have too much electrical bills compared with what you got.
Its not profitable anymore these days so you should not do this anymore.
The halving indeed made it more difficult but I still think it can be profitable but its not so easy anymore, you need a very good plan to make it now profitable. Some people are still doing it right now and are making some profit so that is saying enough, its still possible. If mining is not already profitable then there were no miners indeed but as of now there are still miners which means its still profitable as same as you said and i think those miners which is profitable is those to have mining farms, in my own view if you mine just using 1 rig maybe it owuld not be profitable i guess. Can you giving me some reliable data or calculate about the explanation how mining is not profitable in this time? In my opinion i think the halving tells that mining are not profitable for some countries that got an high electicity cost blocks are getting harder and harder to get thats why many people would really say that mining is not worth it nowadays, but if you think you are in low cost electicity country or using solar panel upon mining well maybe it could still profitable for since you can mine and mine as you want. |
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Probably yes because when you know bitcoin you have an opportunity to earn money in the internet with out any force unlike job. You can get rich also in the bitcoin if you are a good and wise investor, a good and wise trader and a good and wise gambler. So if you are perfect in using bitcoin you can save money from it. You can buy also a house for your family. And you can have a daily income in this opportunity.
True, what bitcoin opportunity provides is really easy to used. You can work anytime you want and at any place you are. So even if you are at work and then you have nothing to do you can do part time jobs. Yes, the opportunities that bitcoin has brought are really marvellous. I believe with bitcoin saving everyone will bring his dreams to life. Before bitcoin no one will get such opportunity to transform their dream into reality. Only with bitcoin we are able to consider about the possibility. I would rather agree with this thing bitcoins existance really offer great oppurtunities to all people who's using to it online and it really help those people who's seeking temporarily source of immediate income aswell us it helps those housewives find another way to get some money by the use of bitcoin so i will doubt that bitcoin someday will be globally thrend among all people and offline oppurtunities for it will spreading wider to the fullest. |
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i don't think it's really exist on crypto world,just see someone just opening an invest to him and the money will be used for trading when he's gaining the profit,the profit will be fairly shared to him and the investors but it's just few months ago,but managing account seems very rare,though most of people would prefer use other people's money rather than people's account
I don't really trust site offering that since scammers are scattered anywhere we didn't know that where dealing those scammers and so for that avoid we should not invest on any site which do trades on your part, because as you said its very rare to see those legit one one the sea of crypto world its because mostly of them who's alive right now is scammer, or its better for OP to find a pump and dump group for the certain coins so he can gain more knowledge about tradings. |
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I believe that in the next few weeks, the price of the ETC will be similar to current level. It might drop after big dump.
It might happen. We need the cooperation from the big holders of the Ethereum Classic, especially the hackers. If the Ethereum Foundation dump the ETC to support its own development, then the ETC price could drop a lot. If the Ethereum DAO hacker dump the ETC to take profit, then the ETC price could drop a lot. It depends on the TEC community. If it has many rich supporters, they can absorb the dumps from big holders. I am not sure about that now. It seems the ETC price drops day after day. It might be in the dump phase now. The price of ETC has risen against the ETH in the last few days. Maybe somebody knows some thing we do not. The price of the ETC is quite stable at the moment. It seems the DAO hacker has not dumped his coins yet. Maybe they are just waiting for another huge buy on eth so they could earn even more higher if that scenario will be happen, and also i think the cause of stability is the ETC fame and eth now is struggling in battle against etc but maybe i think those price of eth will bubble in next coming days if the eth whales will comeback and do trade again for this coin but this scenario will be very difficult to getback since dao hackers are still hoodling there hacked eth. |
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When you are not having any months without profits, why not you trade for your own funds or with a loan.
In a practical world, no one will be ready to work for others. You are hiding all the risks involved with your business model but projecting only the benefit aspects. No difference from a HYIP program.
I do trade for my own fund, all I am trying to do is public my service and increase my fund's capital. I do not know what world you live in mate but on earth, people wok with each other. I am not hiding anything, the risk factor is decided by the client, the amount for investment is decided by the client, and at the end of the day, the client pays us a slice of profit, which was made by us. All the positive and negative factors are in front of the clients and for any further clarification, clients are most welcome to PM me. We are not like an HYIP, as you have put your precious money in their account and they then run away with your money, whereas with us your money is safe in your account, and you send us a slice of profits made by us in your account. I've heard so many drama the same as this that using where not hyips,where not etc etc, im sick and tired to read one of those if you are legit trader here why don't you show us your real account if you are legit? And post some proof of trade so we can see and analyze that you are stating some facts and doesn't have any intention of scamming. I am not here to vouch for the op but i don't get you. I am not even sure if you even read the original post. Please explain me how would he scam if he is saying that the client will be the one who can cashout with 2FA means only client can withdraw.Now don't tell me that you mean by scamming the loss by trading lol. That's not scamming unless i mean if you have such meaning in your dictionary Well if you read carefully dude you should know what's the meaning of what i am saying, my thinking for this kind of service is so bad so why don't give a shit to research for your self about those past scam attempt happening here? So if you think they are legit one well go ahead go invest and give some review if they can give you the profits that they promised. |
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When you are not having any months without profits, why not you trade for your own funds or with a loan.
In a practical world, no one will be ready to work for others. You are hiding all the risks involved with your business model but projecting only the benefit aspects. No difference from a HYIP program.
I do trade for my own fund, all I am trying to do is public my service and increase my fund's capital. I do not know what world you live in mate but on earth, people wok with each other. I am not hiding anything, the risk factor is decided by the client, the amount for investment is decided by the client, and at the end of the day, the client pays us a slice of profit, which was made by us. All the positive and negative factors are in front of the clients and for any further clarification, clients are most welcome to PM me. We are not like an HYIP, as you have put your precious money in their account and they then run away with your money, whereas with us your money is safe in your account, and you send us a slice of profits made by us in your account. I've heard so many drama the same as this that using where not hyips,where not etc etc, im sick and tired to read one of those if you are legit trader here why don't you show us your real account if you are legit? And post some proof of trade so we can see and analyze that you are stating some facts and doesn't have any intention of scamming. |
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I am betting on Iconomi token and the Antshare token to sky rocket. we can expect good gain for DASH and Monero. Rest coins I don't feel they will make any serious moves for the time been.
your are true iam agree your statement next iconomi and antshare will rise and big coin and high price Iconomi and antshare are the new things who might gonna surpass the fame of any coin if devs would do some great ways to get more exposure to big investors and as you can see the investment for ICONOMI coins are getting growing for days are past maybe it can surpass for more in these coming days and get more good price at stake, I don't know about antshare because i dont follow this coin and the one thing i know is the investment is so huge. |
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Hi
As title says... is cloud mining worth it? do you recommend any cloud mining website? (mining bitcoin)
Just trying to get my head around things.
Thanks!
If i were you i wouldnt mind to waste my money and time on those sites. Its better to hold your money that to invest those ponzi schemes . Cloudmining are just scams in the long run and not profitable. Its better to run your own mining farm then for sure it would give you decent amount of profits unless if you have cheap electricity on your county. Actually mining bitcoin still give you benefit but you need to sell partly to pay for the cost of electricity and the remainder is held for sale when prices rise. What I am understanding from your statement is, cloud mining will not be profitable with the respect to investment amount and its returns for present days. But, after holding for some longer periods, the rewards from cloud mining may worth more to to get us profits. How could you say so? Do you try to invest on those? I think not since you are not barking at them cloudmining these days bud are scam we cannot really get some profits with that and if you think you can earn with that in a long run well close that thinking its because it might gonna kill your budget, cloudmining is not trusted program upon investing so better be carefull on that thing, the reward you are saying is just an imagination, and you will ended to be scam victim if you do so |
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What is the current average price in satoshi for ICN from ico?
How much you will pay in ICO currently : $0.05726854117647058823529411764706 USD How much is it worth if whole supply is accounted for (100m) : $0.04867826 USD So how much is the estimated pricw of ICN during the end of ICO? Any speculation guys? Share your thoughs here or any people who can do the math can anyone here tell how much is the ICN at this moment at btc price? I really fee excited for this coin and hope bittrex will see this coin be worthy one to be added in their exchange. |
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I have an important question to developers. Whether the truth that when calculating bounties also retweets of replies of ICONOMI are considered. I have found this account, and I think that it can be considered abuse: https://twitter.com/aqrisaqrisI want you upset, there is no abuse, I am an active PR including private tweets, if you look I have mostly followers who are interested in crypto-currency. I don't blame that I have over 1000 followers. It seems to me that you're just offers. It is not bought account, how some people think here. I participate in many Twitter campaigns, just you need to view my tape. I am shocked by such accusations from the Member. Yeah, I see it, senior member, and must be legit. Confirmed legit account. Cheers. Thanks for clarification. I am always active on the Forum and this man came and poured mud, I think he deserves punishment for slander  Maybe he thinks your account is very new, registered months ago, or see you have many iconomi related tweets. It is about abuse of retweets of replies of ICONOMI. It doesn't bear information value. It is empty useless information without context. It is a retweet of everything. I heard it is called spam isn't it? The purpose of it not a publicity move, the purpose of it to receive more bounties than others. If similar actions are legal, I suggest you to do most too. A retweet all answers for receipt of a bigger share. I play fair play and I don't do more than 2 retweets a day because my subscribers will be dissatisfied with spam. It will cause negative attitude to ICONOMI. I don't want it. Really, why i saw your post about you cheat in the twitter bounty? You quoted "mr.robt" words and you said you did the similar cheating things? He is caught by OP, and he admitted he creates many accounts and made 50k icn. But after 2 minutes, you deleted the post? Who such mr.robot? I don't understand what you speak about. He is talking about this guy: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=899284He is trying to pull of a big cheat by using multi accounts, I know he just claimed since my shares are worth now 150 ICN, but were 800 ICN worth one hour ago. Hello guys do you know where we can see the list of twitter bounty participants? Send me some link guys, i want to watch if my twitter account has been listed on bounty campaign thanks. |
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yes it will affect forum market lots of people having spare codes and earning game items will wnt to sell for bitcoin and alot of them will be on forums like these cause this is one of the biggest ones so yes i think so also i willl participate in this.
Well I do believe that acceptance of steam with bitcoin did really contribute to the rapid price increase that happened last month. Because that is going to add up some amount and demand in the market as the users are going to be more too. So I do believed that it is really affecting market. Well, in my opinions that contributes of steam is accepting bitcoin just increasing the circulation of bitcoin and i never think that is will affecting the price and can making the price will increase and another from that, maybe that will becoming good advertising for bitcoin and i don't see the another potentially caused by steam is accepting bitcoin. and so in the final definition of me and according from the fact the the accepting of steam for bitcoin is not having relationship with bitcoin price. Correct, but that is because currently there is not enough volume, but if enough persons get into using bitcoin to buy games and stuff it could definitely support adoption. But in steam and especially for some people is already having their convenient payment and the accepting bitcoin by steam is just for pulling the attention of bitcoiners for filling their money into steam because steam also see the bitcoiners like steam saw the money. Both get benifited unto this steam can gather more site users when they are using bitcoin aswell as bitcoin got exposure to steam users and its a win win situation on both parties since the bitcoin And steam is now officially partner, but lets hope bot parties are been successful so we can see more growth incoming to bitcoin and price will soar up high when demands will increase due to additional users. |
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Taking something that is not yours is really illegal may it be bitcoin or anything that you take without any authority from the owner. In the case you've given wherein you accidentally have bitcoin in your wallet upon generating it and you don't know who gave it then it is not stealing because there is no intention. But a chance of this happening is near to impossible.
I agree with you a thing that you don't own is not your property and you must not stole it. Because think about it, when you have your own bitcoin and another person steals it. What are you going to feel? That is just like karma and it is for real. So if you don't want to happen to you, then don't do it to others. Absolutely right, if every person imagine like that then they will respect everyone feelings and will not like to hurt every one and will try to pay what the other dues are and will not accept stolen bitcoins etc. Well if anyone would know if the transacted bitcoin are stolen that would be easy but I think that would be very hard to know, but you can trace every bitcoin address that takes part in every transaction and that is the time you would know when a transaction is made and where would the bitcoin would go, Well I think that would be the time he would know if his bitcoin got stolen. You cannot trace the bitcoin transaction if it passes on some mixer already and that is actually what the scammers doing now thats why they are very hard to trace and cannot be sue, @OP anything you stole wheter it is have amount or not aslong as it's not yours well it can be also called stealing and that qct is strongly prohibited by law since this doing is illegal act by those people who cannot do good deeds to people and want easy money on their pocket. |
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Greetings, I regret to inform you that at this moment, BTCJam is being hacked. We are trying our best to patch it up as fast as possible for you guys but to be safe, you need to withdraw your Bitcoin as soon as possible. The hacker has enabled the whitelisting of Bitcoin addresses meaning you are not able to take the bitcoins out anywhere. We have added our own backup emergency address for this issue.
1D6yNg5dbiTQHRj4USxsywSbZkgCRrF77z
So, ALERT: Get on BTCJam, login and withdraw your bitcoin as soon as you can to
1D6yNg5dbiTQHRj4USxsywSbZkgCRrF77z
PM me with your username and I'll resend it to an address of your choice.
This will most likely be fixed in 1-2 days. Transparency is the best option.
I Dont want to believe someone will fall for this. And actually transfer to your addresss. Anyway who can say someone somewhere can actually fall for it who knows... But OP you deserve as much as possible red trust for this... My opinion though... Sad part is the scammer is still claiming that his account was hacked and posted this... Lying piece of bitcoin garbage. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112447.msg16250641#msg16250641He's just making a reason just to cover up his scamming done and his reason is totlly unbelievable! Fuck, do he think he can deprive people here? What a noob reason for him to state this one, i think he plan this for a long time and turned scam whn h see's he can earn enough by peoples money. So better people would not send on what address he is posting out there OP is scammer. |
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The safest wallet is the password what you are creating that is the main security which cannot be breached by anyone if you are giving a very strong password, But if you want the wallet then it is hardware wallet like desktop wallet, which you can use it when ever you want and after the work is finish you can take backup in pendrive and move it from the desktop like this your wallet be safe if your desktop got hacked or got attack by virus.
Online wallet i am using coinbase , its security is also very good like, sms confirmation and email confirmation if you are logging from another IP. So this way you are getting safety. But only thing is you are not the sole owner of the wallet and it is a third party wallet which you are using and its key are not with you but with the site owner.
Yeah, I also use online wallet but for me its Coins.ph. Its security was not that tight but I've never been hacked so for me it is still safe. It also has SMS and Email Confirmation once unknown IP logs in with that account. Now, regarding to hardware, paper and deskktop wallet. I have never been used that kinds of wallets before. But I think it is also vulnerable to attacks such as trojan and other viruses that may affect the hardware which acts as your wallet. So for me, I think having a strong password is the safest even if it is online wallet or something like that. Coins.ph is safe and depends on how we gonna use it and im using this wallet for 1 year+ i can't reca back how exactly the date is, but actually sometimes coins.ph have malicious dealings on their costumer since they have some issue of locking some accounts if you have a big balance in your wallet, and i am the one of those other victim who's wallet has been lock due to unexplained matter. |
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This month is very special to etc, because some country have plan to meeting about ethereum classic, to growing it, and roadmap it.
i think ethereum classic can back to level them, 0.006btc,
what do you think about it?
What country are you talking about and what is this meeting? All that came out in the news is that Charles Hoskinson is supporting ETC to an extent as an academic research project. They already laid out a road map I think. If you have more information please post them clearly in the thread. Well maybe he's gettinh to much excited when he sees it, but lets not closed the doors for it, maybe it can be reach for that price if this rally will continue and people would support this coin for more and possibilities are big since etc are almost eaten the fame of eth so it might gonna reach but it would be headee on though way before reachinh that far. So let see what might gonna happen in future maybe we will be surprise for etc. |
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I've recently found myself buying, reselling, investing, spending bitcoins in my everyday life. I am now awaiting on withdraws which take 7-10 days in my business and I'm needing coins in the mean time. I'm only looking for 0.165 and willing to repay 60% within 10 days maximum. I don't have proper collateral which has put me in a hard place to actually get a loan. I'm willing to provide any information requested and knowing this isn't proper collateral but I'm willing to stake my Paxful account which has great buyer feedback with a trade history of a total of 1,585$ .. If anyone out there is willing to work with me please text or reply back here
704-726-7529
Your in wrong section mate and i doubt there's anyone here will give you a loan since you are newbie, and also you cannot really have a loan if you don't have any valid collateral since it is the way of the lenders to safeguard themselves when the barrower got defaulted on his loan request, so better get a good collateral if you want to get really those loan. So goodluck for that if you can find a lender will trust you. |
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Many of my clients and friend are telling that hashocean is coming back, this sounds weird but even if it comes will hashocean get back its trust, will you trust again ?
I actually agree that hashocean will back again but they will use other name, after too much money they recieve and run.they will try it again and again until there too many people believing investing in that kind of business will make them profit.. Thats a hyip scheme they will just make another one again after they successfully scam people and they do it repeatedly and make it as a business, people should really be more vigilant right now since anything can be worsen if they will continue to invest on those hyips, people should really think that we are been fooled by them and this hyips should be eliminated to our minds, HO is done and another chapter of scamming will be made by them again, surely it will happen. |
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