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6961  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 29, 2019, 03:14:36 PM
^ Yeah, all formalities and meeting took place in India ,Calcutta last year. overall its very good move from ICC to revive Test Cricket among the test playing nations. having said that i do have some reservation regarding financial setup (digging more) and point-match system.
Financial setup? What do you mean? Are there some flaws regarding money management in this regard or is it something else? I did hear that ICC might be looking into the boundary count rule to decide winner later on thanks to public outcry.


Yeah regarding Media rights.

~snip~
So i have a genuine doubt here, since World cup cricket is not shared even when there was a tie even in the super overs and we all know that in test matches there will be a draw as you cannot expect a result in a test match all the time, so if that happens will there be a super over to determine the test champion  Cheesy or whether they will share the test championship. There is even a possibility of a tie in test matches, i know these are very rare but you cannot rule out those situations.

I don't think that in case the test match ends in a draw, they'll call for super-over. ICC will be more interested in declaring the winner based on their ridiculous rules (just like the maximum boundary rule they had for the CWC finals). For example, they can declare the team which bowled the least extras as winners. Or it could be the team which contributes the most to the ICC in terms of revenue. You never know these crazy people and the rules they make. Their aim is not to award the match to the team which performed the best.

@7788bitcoin @Vishnu.Reang

99% chances are that we are not going to see same result in this kind of scenario ever. In case final match ends with the draw then top ranking team in terms of points will get automatically declared as a winner.




Espn has released this information as draw possibilities are higher when it comes to test matches.

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If the final ends in a tie or a draw, the two teams will be joint champions. Although the playing conditions allow for a reserve day, it can only be used if net playing time is lost during the scheduled five days of the final. Net playing time for every Test amounts to 30 hours of play (six hours per day).

The reserve day is only going to make it worse as again it will be June 2021 and the finals will be played in UK. Another rain wash. But I am glad they will chose to make both teams joint winners.

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27279509/faqs-happens-world-test-championship-final-ends-draw-tie

erikalui :  Not sure if that's fullproof judgement. If this is from ICC then it could be true but in case its just a speculation from ESPNcricinfo then i am not sure about that because i didn't find any official statement from ICC's representatives so far.
6962  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 29, 2019, 10:13:05 AM
^ Yeah, all formalities and meeting took place in India ,Calcutta last year. overall its very good move from ICC to revive Test Cricket among the test playing nations. having said that i do have some reservation regarding financial setup (digging more) and point-match system.





I don't get why they get no other place to host the Test WC except for England and now I also believe that it's in favor of England.

1. Only Final is schedule in England, Lords -still not final i guess- ( plus home matches for England)
2. Its not in favor of any team - Every team will play same amount of series " 3-3 series away from home and at home"

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Also, the format is so confusing. First 5 matches of Aus and Eng on 1st August, then 2 matches of other team and here India and Pakistan are not playing against each other so no cricket tension for both.


3. Total 9 teams are participating in it and current schedule is based on existing bilateral structure where any nation can opt for 6 different opponents. its for every team and India don't want to play against Pakistan in any bilateral series due to political crisis between both countries.

4. 5 match and 2 match scenario is based on Financial terms In my point of view ( Big 3 team Aus, Ind,Eng) playing 5-4 matches against each others because it generate more revenue in comparison of Windies- Pak-SL-Ban-NZ or in some extent SA. ( i don't mind this much because ICC need fuel to run all system otherwise it will crumble)


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But still how are they going to decide the winner by having irregular number of matches between 2 teams?

I have some doubt on point table but as far as i understand more matches doesn't mean that you are getting more points.

6963  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Cricket match prediction discussions on: July 29, 2019, 08:32:00 AM
I am sure they are going to prefer Finch instead of Khawaja because he is also performing good in recent matches and deserve this opportunity even Khawaja is also not bad at all but Finch and Warner can do much better as they already done in ODI's. But we have one more person Bancroft he is also recalled so this is very interesting as now they have more openers lets see how they are going to manage this all in next few days.

I agree with @vella's reasoning about Warner and Finch batting style and would like to add that Finch failed to perform against Seaming Red Ball so far (he didn't played much but still) , plus i doubt that he can face likes of Broad and Anderson ( word is he's fit to play Ashes). on the other hand his competitor Usman Khwaja is proper Test Opener Batsman in Australian squad.

In short Warner and Khwaja should be go to opening pair for OZ.
6964  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 29, 2019, 08:04:18 AM
Pathetic performance by Ireland. It was the worst performance by any team in a test match. The ICC should seriously consider revoking their test status and reconsider the decision only when they are 100% sure of their competitiveness. Their appalling performance brought disgrace to all the emerging teams and now test nations would be reluctant to stage any matches against these lesser teams.


Anyone agree with me that the ICC should revoke the test status of Ireland? Their performance was really horrible and I have a feeling that test matches should be limited to those teams with international standard. Ireland comes nowhere close. Afghanistan is doing well, so I would suggest the ICC to revoke the test status of Zimbabwe and Ireland, to make it a ten team affair.

No, not me Cheesy Give them some time, they are just couple of matches old. India, South Africa, New Zealand took more than one decade to register their first win so i am sure new test playing nations will come along soon.

And Worst performance record belongs to Kiwis team. 26 runs all out.

BTW, someone had claimed that 9 out of the 11 members of the Irish squad were born in England. This is not true. Check this:

~Edited

That was me  Cry i didn't looked into it, but i remember reading this somewhere. can't find the source, guess i am victim of fake or BS news
6965  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 28, 2019, 02:36:38 PM
Now I go to a pub to have a GinTonic (hendricks) of course, after celebrating with my wife the 29 anniversary of married, a good white wine, fish and seafood.

Tomorrow hangover.  

If you see a big green dildo tonight, it's me who will be pushing hard, If it’s a red candle, I’ve fallen asleep.

Good weekend to everyone. Kiss

A bit late ( only 2 days) Tongue

Belated happy anniversary Brother... wish you best for next target "Golden Jubliee"

6966  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 28, 2019, 02:14:45 PM
6967  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 26, 2019, 04:00:12 PM
Come on everyone!


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6968  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 26, 2019, 12:31:44 PM
Safe to say Match gone Cheesy

No maiden test victory for them. 6 wicket down,  now they just need to make 2 more runs to avoid lowest total in test cricket history Cheesy

Previous existing record is 26 runs and its belongs to New Zealand Cheesy
6969  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 26, 2019, 12:23:00 PM
First wicket down for Ireland.

4 down now lol

Picture doesn't look good for Irish team. Let's see what Kevin O'Brian does from here. He's the key wicket to take for England's perspective.

Edit : 5th wicket gone and 24 run Cheesy
6970  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 26, 2019, 09:31:39 AM
My prediction is like this:

If the lead is <150, then Ireland has a great chance of winning this test.
If the lead is in the range of 151190-200, then both the teams have equal chances.
If the lead is >200, then England has a great chance of winning this test.

Now the lead has increased to 181, and let's see whether they will be able to cross 200 or not.

TBH Yesterday pitch behaved very differently in every session.

First when Jack Leech and Jason Roy were batting, pitch was looking easy to bat after that bowlers took the advantage of pitch. Result; Collapse in English middle order but in the end English's tailenders added some useful runs easily.

So I prefer second scenario, if it happens then its going to be good contest between ball and bat again.


6971  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 26, 2019, 08:13:27 AM
@haunebu : it's very clear that other poster is not making any sense and clearly a signature spam. If someone reports his post then your reply will be delete along with his posts. Recently happened with pffrt, royce and me where someone deliberately reported pffrt posts in cricketing thread.

So make sure you are not quoting any useless comment  in cricketing thread.


@haunebu : guess you missed this post?

I already stopped quoting and replying anyone who is not regular in cricket thread and who post once in a while for signature spam and don't follow the existing conversation.

And i noticed you quoted other guy as well with your deleted post. his post is deleted and automatically your post get deleted with him.

Pffrt's thread : My on topic posts are getting deleted




6972  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 25, 2019, 03:07:24 PM
Now this test enter in very interesting situation as England 70 on board and 4 wickets down Bairstow and Root on crease so any result can happen because with three quick wickets Ireland bowling and fielders feeling some good one more wicket and England in some deep trouble.

Bairstow gone now England feeling pressure even Root is still on but now they are in danger

That's a beauty of test cricket. At one time England was looking very strong, but a couple of wickets including bad call of Joe Root with running out his partner messed things for England.

Half team already in dugout and inning's lead still in 2 figures, Joe Root need to play captain's inning here.
6973  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 25, 2019, 11:14:15 AM
Jack leach looking good at 40runs, didn't expected this kind of inning from no 10 batsman who came to bat as a watchman.

I would say it's solid start from English side.
6974  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 25, 2019, 09:18:24 AM
~snip~

^@LFC

When I was a newbie here, I spent almost 8-10 months as a lurker.

And it looks like you changed so much in comparison from your last pic, some drastic changes I would say  Tongue , tattoo missing too.

PS: Accidentally refreshed the merit page  Grin
6975  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 25, 2019, 08:13:35 AM

It seems that Strauss wanted him to play for England

Fun Fact : out of 11 players, 9 Irish player are British born.

I remember reading this some where, can't find the source though.



if this match gets a result, that will be on the Irish side I think. I wish they get their maiden test win.

I want same for them but anything could happen who knows if England face another collapse or Good partnership.

But i think English top middle order will fight back today, expecting good knock from Joe root, not century though.
6976  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Prediction and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 25, 2019, 07:45:04 AM
@erikalui  You mixing up ODI and Test Match?  Roll Eyes

It's just a first day and Ireland playing his first inning in this test. We have second inning as well for England and Ireland, so the match is not going to finish today if Ireland reach the 85 runs target Tongue

Oh yeah, I forgot about second innings too. So after they get 85, they'll continue to play till they all get out. Then England bat to chase the runs (if any) and/or put runs on the board and Ireland again chase. Am I right? Last I saw a test match was in 2014 where England were playing with a score of 500+ against India I guess. :-P


That's fine, at first i thought you were joking or trolling Tongue but its not the case here i suppose.

Yes, Correct Smiley




3rd innings started in day 1? That's interesting. I really like test which get completed earlier. Ireland has good chance to win the match.

For this to happen, they need to knock down a couple of wicket with the new ball in the first session, if English openers survive the first hour, which I know one of them will not for long because Jack Leach is Night-watchman. England would not mind 1 wicket down after 1st session. If this happens, then the situation could be dicey for the Irish Team.

Unless another magical bowling spell waiting for English team around the corner, who knows? Tongue
6977  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 24, 2019, 02:17:28 PM
@JJG Traditions are good, sometimes boring too Tongue
6978  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Predication and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 24, 2019, 02:10:19 PM
~snip~
That timeless Test must be a fun. The boat won eventually I guess :-P

By the way, I was asking for the nation to win a test match in shortest waiting time after they get the Test status :-)

Lol okay, i thought time duration of any test, anyway here is the list

1. Australia : Test Debut in 1877 , Won in first match.
2. England :  Test Debut 1877 , Won in same year on their 2nd match.
3. South Africa : Test Debut in 1889, First win came in 1906 after 11 test.
4. West Indies: Test Debut in 1928, First win in 1930 after 5th test Match
5. New Zealand: Test Debut in 1930, First Test win in 1956 after 44 match  They are Winners - 26 Years
6.India : Test Debut in 1932 , First Test win came in 1952 on their 25th match.
7. Sri Lanka: Test Debut in1982, First Win in 1985 after 13 test match.
8.Pakistan: Test debut in 1952, won in same year on their 2nd match.
9. Bangladesh : Test Debut in 2000, Won first game in 2005 after 34 match.



6979  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Predication and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 24, 2019, 01:40:07 PM
@erikalui  You mixing up ODI and Test Match?  Roll Eyes

It's just a first day and Ireland playing his first inning in this test. We have second inning as well for England and Ireland, so the match is not going to finish today if Ireland reach the 85 runs target Tongue
6980  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Test Cricket Predication and Discussion Thread [self - mod] on: July 24, 2019, 12:14:27 PM
~snip~
Ireland play first test against Pakistan and second against Afghanistan both lost now playing third test here is link for score card against Pakistan https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/18025/scorecard/1127284/ireland-vs-pakistan-only-test-pak-in-ire-eng-scot-2018

Thanks bud. I managed to get the news. So, if Ireland somehow manage to win this test (BIG LOL) then will they be the nation who will win their first test in very short time?

I am very poor in looking at history. May be JSRAW has it. :-P

Match finished in World Test Cricket history - Shortest Time- In terms of Bowl/overs

Australia vs South Africa (1932)

Oz won match by inning and 72 runs


Click here for Scorecard

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Before proceeding to New Zealand, South Africa engaged in their concluding Test match with Australia and for the fifth time were defeated, Australia, although scoring only 153, winning in an innings with 72 runs to spare. For this game Australia brought in L. Nash, a Tasmanian fast bowler who jumped into prominence by taking seven wickets for fifty runs when the tourists played Tasmania. Short, but of powerful build, Nash made the ball rise in very awkward fashion, several of them getting head high. He and Ironmonger proved so effective on a pitch slightly on the soft side that in a little more than ninety minutes South Africa were dismissed for the sorry total of 36. This was not their lowest total in Test cricket for they had twice been got rid of previously by England for 30 - at Port Elizabeth in 1895-96 and at Birmingham in 1924. Their lowest score before this in Test matches against Australia was 80 at Melbourne in 1910-11. Cameron alone reached double figures and Ironmonger had the remarkable analysis of five wickets for six runs.

Before the day was over there were further surprises, Australia being got rid of for 153. The wicket appeared a little easier, but Bell, Quinn and McMillan were all able to get considerable work on the ball. Woodfull was out first ball, but Fingleton and Rigg put on 51, the only other stand being that between Kippax and Nash which produced 37. Australia's total was their smallest against South Africa, the previous lowest being 175 at Johannesburg in 1902-03. South Africa, 117 behind, lost one wicket for five runs before play ceased for the day, and on the Saturday no cricket took place, heavy rain during the night and a further downfall soon after two o'clock preventing any chance of a resumption. On the Monday, however, there came more sensational play.

The game was not proceeded with until quarter past two and then in less than an hour and a half the last nine South African wickets went down for another 40 runs. Thus South Africa were twice dismissed for an aggregate of 81, the lowest total for two innings ever recorded in the history of Test match cricket. The wicket was very difficult and Ironmonger once more proved practically unplayable. He dismissed six men for eighteen runs, thus having a record in the match of eleven wickets for 24. Five batsmen failed to score and only Curnow reached double figures.

The third wicket fell at 25 and then, with the sun coming out, the wicket became terribly treacherous, the last seven batsmen being dismissed for another 20 runs.


More :  Top-10-shortest-test-matches-in-cricket-history




Quoting my another post for Longest Test match ever played in Test Cricket History


Btw when it comes to Test cricket, for some games even 5 days are not enough Cheesy . sharing some interesting story.

Time Less Test Match

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Friday, 3 March 1939
Today marks the anniversary of the longest cricket test match in history. The game was played between South Africa and England in Durban. The game continued until the 14 March - 9 days in total. England needed 41 runs to win at the close of the 9th day, but the match was drawn because the English players had to leave to catch their boat back to England.

Due to the draw result, and the length of this match, it is often referred to as the 'timeless' test, and the only one of its kind in history.


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