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6961  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why the bitcoin price goes down on: January 23, 2018, 03:56:56 PM
Corrections are natural my friend don't be scared.
Newbie tellin it to another newbie.

there is many reason. main reason is mining problem.tx fee is too high.confirmation taking too much time.
Use SegWit enabled wallets, high cost of transaction fee and slow confirmation time, - Solved.

Bitcoin goes down because investors are getting their investments and that's the case when you invest Bitcoin in the past months and you're getting profits more than you expected then you'll have to withdraw it and turn into cash. That's one of the many reasons why Bitcoin drops.
Do you mean investors are cashing it out? Yeah, probably, but there are more pressing issues that makes investors bailed out in this kind of downtrend.



One theory I got is that the full weight of regulatory crackdown in Asia (South Korea) are driving investors out of the market. A lot of news lately, fake news or not, have been in the media for the last couple of days resulting on some investors losing faith because of the current scrutiny of Central Banks not just in Asia, but in the whole world as well where the government is planning to clamp down on trading in virtual currencies. Going to be a long way to go before we can fully see the market recovers and turn green again.
6962  Economy / Speculation / Re: How is BTC different than STOCKS if it is so manipulative?? on: January 19, 2018, 07:00:51 PM
Hi friends,

what a roller coaster ride it was this week!

We know, when people buy bitcoins the price rise and when people sell price drops. There is no other factor here.

So, what we have seen is group of large investors ( 'whales')  are manipulating the whole BTC market by simply investing all together and rising the price and then suddenly starts selling and so BTC crashes.  When BTC crashes this same 'whales' again buy them in low price and again sell them high and make BTC crashes!! And the circle continues...

If BTC or any other crypto can be manipulated so easily just by group of whales then how is it any different than any other STOCKS/SHARES ? where company shows fake profits and raise the stock price and later claim bankruptcy etc..

Since BTC is not regulated there is hell lot more chance of manipulation by the group of whales..  is it not??
I really believed that there are whales that can manipulate the whole price of bitcoin and swayed it on their favors. But I can't find anyone who are willing to come up and admit that they have a hand on every downtrend that we have seen in the past. I also doubt that they really cooperate with one another, do they actually speak to one another just like a Pump-and-Dump group?

Also the market is getting bigger, more whales who used financial institutions as front to buy thousands of bitcoin. So its really hard to imagine every single one of them conniving to pull the market to its knees.

I know that Wall Street big shots are trying to enter the picture, they could manipulate it or not. But unless we have some basis around it, I wouldn't think that there are serious manipulations, in my honest opinion.
6963  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin sky rocket comeback on: January 19, 2018, 05:48:08 PM
An epic rise to the moon of bitcoin's price will only happen once Lightning Network has been implemented and the flaws in transaction fees and scalability has been fixed. The trend will always be in a loop of endless ups and downs like a roller coaster ride.
I hope so. It also depends on how many people are using Bitcoin at that time. If too many transactions go out then Bitcoin will drop in price.
I'm still waiting for Lightning Network to be implemented the earliest possible time. Time to shutdown those people spreading news about how high transaction of bitcoin is, slow confirmations.. blah.. blah.. And activating LN will surely have a big impact on the price.

Bitcoin previous records, speak for itself,  we don't need to take action for every crisis situation. Just hold on your coins. Actually its better to buy when the price is going down as well. And in the long run, you will see the profit gained from all your actions today.

So what happening, on one hand the first futures contract for Bitcoin price below 11 000 usd just expired. Then, all the Walstreet sharks got their bonuses (so they can spend) around second half of January... Seems like someone kept the price low on purpose, now logically in order to make profit, price will spike.
There might be some manipulations behind, but we can't really say for certain. There a lot of money involved here, and it's difficult for a big whales or institutions to bring down the price to its knees, or I might be wrong. Just saying.
6964  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: tricked by trolls. on: January 19, 2018, 04:55:46 PM
One lesson can be learnt here, do not open shoutbox/trollbox when trading.
Just stick to your plan. Plan your trade, and trade our plan.
Correct, I can't remember what trading platform removes their trollbox because of what people are shouting, which influence a lot of traders to buy coins that they shouldn't and they bitch how they were convinced, similar to what the OP has experienced. I also was once a victim as well, I think in Yobit, when I was just starting my journey into trading.

You should have your entry and exit strategy to begin with, and just really stick to it no matter how the market moves. I'm sure with what the OP has experienced, it will be a hard lessons to swallow. Just learn from your mistakes and I really doubt that he can recover his funds. Goodluck.
6965  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What if we were all wrong on: January 19, 2018, 04:08:22 PM
Hello people,

First of all... yes i hold btc and altcoins Smiley i believe in blockchain and so on... anyway
Yes, blockchain, which is the underlying tech behind bitcoin has so much to offer not just on banking industry but other institutions like gas, pharma and so on. This will replace their old and legacy systems which so much efficiency.

But what if, when this "correction" is not a correction..
Rather the beginning of the end of the cryptomarket, as we know it...
Maybe it could be a precursor of another big event that is forthcoming, but I don't think that the crypto market will suddenly disappear and end. Actually this is just another start of a rally that will push every coins to all time highs.

I missed the chance to sell at the high, but never thought, that the market is falling so fast and so strong...
at the moment, we cannot say where the bottom is... almost no moves up..
just crazy... so much money goes away from the market..

FOMO is real mate. Not only you, but there are thousands of investors who missed the chance as well. But you don't need to risk and sell when the price is down. HODL and wait it out. Nothing to worry because we will rebound as fast as we can.
6966  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin is best at 1k on: January 19, 2018, 03:36:20 PM
Investors won't agree but i feel as if the average user would.

Back when bitcoin was 1k it was so much better than how it is now. Massive fees, bottlenecking, etc. too many people riding.
Damn, what a flawed argument, how much you get for creating this thread mate? You smoking or what?

When bitcoin was $1K where were you that time? Did you enjoy using bitcoin back then?

And Yes, investors won't agree because the market is already half a Trillion already and bitcoin dominates 1/3 of it. Seriously, you need to go back and try to learn how bitcoin evolves. No one doesn't like bitcoin to go to $1K no more, this is 2018 mate.

And if you have problems with the high cost of tx fees and slow confirmations, you can go to altcoins markets, I'm sure you can find a lot of coins with immediate confirmations, but I really doubt that you will go there, because the bitcoin market is where the money is.
6967  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it a good time to start buying bitcoins? on: January 18, 2018, 08:49:50 PM
The best time to buy was in the last 24 hours when bitcoin dip below $10K mark after a long time. Now the price is rallying, although it is still not expensive in my opinion. Also there's no perfect time to get into the market because bitcoin, even though we have seen it crashed in the last 2 days it is slowly on the road to recovery.

I think it is a good opportunity to buy some bitcoins as the dominance of bitcoin is lower than usual.According to my predictions dominance of bitcoin will increase back again.After the bitcoins pump you should catch altcoins pump to increase your earnings.Market is ready to pump.Good luck everyone
When the price increases, obviously its market dominance will goes up as well. Its good to see though that after 2 days of bleeding, bitcoin and altcoin are going on a positive direction. And its not really too late to buy both coins and its a solid invested.
6968  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto Bloodbath.. on: January 18, 2018, 08:00:25 PM
I was super scared oh, even had to sell off some tokens to avoid regrets , am just happy i didnt  sell all. I later heard it was a rumor that caused this whole panic and maybe one or two issues arising about Bitcoin and cryptocurency as a whole, anyway am wiser now and have better fate in cryptocurrencies. am really glad to see that the recovery is already happening and i expect bitcoin to bounce back fully and more solid now
At least you admit that you are worried in this last 2 days of crypto bloodbath  Grin. And congratulations for making a bold move not to sell but hold on your bitcoin like is your only savior. The rumors came from South Korean government. I'm sure that you also learn some valuable points here. There are a lot of FUD that will be coming our way, there will be a lot of panic selling. However, you should hold because in the long run, bitcoin will recover.

And since both markets are green, you can tap yourself at the back in making the correction decision this time. There are lot of newcomers who is the opposite of what you shown, then see the price going down, they panic and then they sold everything. And then the market has rebounded, I'm sure they regretting to sold their coins at a cheap price.
6969  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What happened to BTC and other ALTs? on: January 18, 2018, 07:24:01 PM
These past 2 days were scary and the entire market was bleeding. So why such dumping was there? And will be any correction or rise in prices?  Undecided
Hey mate, where have you been in this last 2 days? First there's a lot of news in circulation that China will ban bitcoin mining and then another from South Korea which says that they are going to put a tighter regulations around bitcoin trading, ICO investment, in short anything related to cryptos. We all know how big the South Korean market was, so the market crashed and bleeding to death. However, for short term only as everyone is already making a comeback and the all markets are green again.

We really don't know if the dumping has stop, but just like I said, the market is slowly getting back on its feet but we should still be wary as their might be another negative news that will pull the market price once again. And don't panic, long term, we are going to see bitcoin prices going to the moon.
6970  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BTC is dead. The plan is a shift to Bitcoin Cash. on: January 18, 2018, 07:00:30 PM
BTC may not recover, but instead money will flow back to the superior, original bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash. Buy bitcoins now for under $400 again! Watch for the BCC related conference coming up this week. Huge things ahead! Don't be in the dark on these developments!

So many levels of LOL in that post but I will only focus on one. The "original" bitcoin lol wtf even if you believe it was a better version of bitcoin don't go around claiming assinine stuff like this cmon that is pure ignorance dude! The real and original bitcoin will forever and always be Bitcoin Core  Cool.

LOL. and more LOL.  Grin

Again, bitcoin was tested when the market crashes but its slowly recovering now. I don't know about BCC though, Yes it has big blocks and faster transaction, however, more miners are still in bitcoin because its really profitable on their end. Everyone is trying to make money here, if BCC can't offer enough incentives for the miners, they will stick with Bitcoin.

Besides, I haven't seen BCC gain enough traction from the community. I guess we all know the people behind that project is questionable and cannot be trusted, in my opinion.
6971  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Newbie should trade or not? Please give me idea. on: January 18, 2018, 06:29:43 PM
Hello every body.I am a Newbie. I joined Crytopia about two months ago. I hold CMT and TRX in the Binance and now i want to trade with some coin about: ADA,ETC,... Please help me give some idea i should trade or not? Thank lots of for all.  Tongue Tongue Tongue

No one can really answer that for you. If you want to go trade then dip you hands so get experience. But remember that you should only trade funds that you can afford to lose. I"m sure that in the last couple of days you have seen the whole crypto almost crashing to its knees, so its really hard for you to trade on that circumstances specially you are a newbie.

If you really want to trade, why don't you wait for a few more days then and see how the market moves? Why don't you just hold on your coins for now. And please don't rush yourself into trading, its not gonna be an easy journey. I know that you are too excited, but just remember to be careful and mitigate risk if necessary.
6972  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: A bigger dip to come? on: January 18, 2018, 05:15:01 PM
Do you guys think there will come a bigger dip than 2-3 days ago (in a short term)?
No. I don't think that there will be another dip coming in the next 2-3 days. On the contrary, bitcoin will recover in the next couple of days and we might see it go to $13K-$14K. We have recovered more than 10% this day alone, so its very unlikely that there is another dip coming as you portray it. It's still good to buy though today, so instead of you thinking of a dip, buy today and take the opportunity to gain long term.

I think this was one of the rare possibilities to buy bitcoin cheap. If you missed that chance to fill up you BTC stock or buy Bitcoins for the first time, you'll have to buy it expensive again.
Yes, but you can still buy bitcoin today because it is still at a discount. Its still January, buy it now and then hold for long term and I'm sure that when bitcoin goes to the moon, you can doubled your investment in just a short time.
6973  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is it chance to jump in? on: January 17, 2018, 05:52:02 PM
the market is down now. Coins are cheap now. Do you think it's time to jump in now, or we can wait for lower price?
Can you see that bitcoin will go down even deeper? If you think it will then wait for it. However, you need to understand how volatile the market is, so its 50/50 that it will recover or goes down a little further. If I where in your shoes, I will test and buy bitcoin today and then see what happens, if it goes down, then buy more. If the price suddenly jumps to a level were you can't buy, then wait.

That's why you will only hear people saying that there's no perfect time to buy bitcoin. Of course its better to get while it's cheap, but if you have more money to shop for more bitcoin, don't wait, jump in before this perfect chance will soon closes its door.
6974  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto Bloodbath.. on: January 17, 2018, 05:03:56 PM
The crypto market are currently all in red. It seems that there is a bloodbath. How long do you think will it take and what do you think is the reason behind it? Is it just a massive price correction or is it the end for the crypto world? Just want to know your opinion about it.

My opinion about this current situation is Asian Market (China, etc) cashing money. They will celebrate Lunar Year on February. So, i think the market still in RED until early February.
Lots of speculation as to what is happening to the market right now. Asian market has still a lot of influence on the market is what you said above is true. But I don't think that will last till February. I'm speculating that this bloodbath will on a few the most. Too much money is here to take. I'm sure people will go back and buy cheap coins now.

There is no bloodbath, it's the reverse of what happened in December.
Call it whatever dude. But what we have witnessing is a major crash. Although this is not the first time. But there are a lot of noobs not familiar with this kind of development. They see the market going red, they panic and then sold everything. AT least weak hands is gone, and perfect timing to get back right now.
6975  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Ethereum 2k USD in February? on: January 17, 2018, 04:35:19 PM
2 days ago it was all possible, now i'm not so sure.
The hype train hits the break. Now its down to $9++ again. In all fairness to Ethereum, all coins are bleeding including bitcoin. We all hope that it can break the $2K barrier this coming month, unfortunately, we are back to the price last December. I'm sure that it brings disappointed (including me), to see our profits gone just like that. And all we can do is hope that it will recover soon. I guess I'll keep holding my Ethereum much longer than expected.

With the increase in price of ETH and it has a chance the price will reach to even more than 2000$, I don't know bitcoin price is decreasing in the market and it makes ETH to increase it's price.
Things change very fast in the world of cryptocurrencies and after few days we are seeing every single coin being slaughtered, at the time I'm writing this out of the top 100 coins 99 are losing money and only one is having a small growth, ETH now is trading at 800 dollars so we got a massive FUD and this is why things have changed that much but even with that I think we are going to have a good 2018 year but I do not think ETH is going to reach the goal that many had of 2k in the next  month.
If you are new to the crypto world, you will be shock as how volatile the market was. Just looking at the marketcap, this 2 days of suffering wipes out hundreds of billions of dollars. However, this is just normal to the crypto market. No one would have thought that this is going to happened very soon. But we should not panic here. Its the beginning of the year and a long way to go. It may reach $2K by next month. We will see about that.
6976  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Coinmarketcap on: January 17, 2018, 03:45:08 PM
Hi there what happen all altcoins and bitcoin is dumping but why? Im panic about that and the coinmarketcap still dumping this is the end of cryptocurrency? Anyone knows about this? A litle worried about what happening now. Sad

I think it is affected with Mike Bell (JP Morgan) pronouncement that cryptocurrency could ban by the government.
Many investors may have panic about it.
Bitcoin has been branded a fraud by the same person years ago but look btc now.

Well there's a lot of news going around the ecosystem for the past 2 days that really cause the market to crash. Governments are waging war against it, but I'm sure that we can stay afloat in the next coming days. This is not a long term effect on the market.



We can't really control how the price will moved. Sometimes it will not go on our favor because of the FUD going around. Its just normal to see corrections happening from time to time so that we can moved even to a good direction. Another bump in the road, the logical option is not to panic sell, hold on your coins and come back after 3 days. If you constantly checking the price of your investment going down, most likely that your decision will be clouded and sell everything.
6977  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: My ether wallet with (187$) hacked today on: January 17, 2018, 03:20:20 PM
its hacked i am showing you guys the history

its my etherscan wallet link
https://etherscan.io/address/0xff3afb99ee105fa2619f24175bd3b34542f88dc7

44 days ago i got 0.25 ETH from bittrex to my ether wallet

today i checked my wallet and i saw all the amount has been sent to another address

to this address
https://etherscan.io/address/0x4bcdf79964d49c353ea6cd11ce53e9872f98f6cf

can i return it ? or what ? i really been sad not for the money but for the Eth blockchain heaviness and its now a shit everyone can hack it

any help is really apprciated
I'm sorry to hear that you lost your ETH dude. But we all know that ETH transaction is irreversible so I doubt that you can recover you funds again. How did you got hacked by the way? You have any idea? Lately there was been numerous reports about MEW phishing incident, so I assumed that you may have inadvertently went to that phishing site.

Better to stay away in etherdelta and dont trade  ,cause their site is prone to hacking  you should pull out all your coins out there and transfer it to a secured wallet, dont wait for your coins stolen by the hacker.
Up to now EtherDelta, has still the deposit thing issue. It has been DNS hacked as well. So I also advise to stay away from it.


I also want to ask how the characteristic of mew we exposed hakced.?
and how we can avoid it
MEW hasn't been hacked.
yes youre right mew hasnt been hacked but a lot of hackers are copying mew site to be use in phishing purposes. It op's fault why hes mew got hacked, maybe hes a victim of phishing link.
Sad to say this, but we have no one to blame but ourselves. MEW has been putting a lot warnings ever since, and its up to us to really protect our again in them. Just bookmarked the URL so that you don't need to type them and go to a phishing site. Protect our account at all cost.
6978  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETHEREUM WILL WORTH $10000 on: January 15, 2018, 09:15:27 PM
The only downside of Ethereum right now is the network congestion. It forces us to raise gas fees just to make transactions faster. I understand that most of the ICOs are using the Ethereum (ERC20) smart contract for token distribution, and only a few to other blockchain networks.

We are still in the first month of 2018, so it's still a long way to go. If ICOs are still using Ethereum despite the network congestion, there is a chance that it'll hit $10k over time. Just like Bitcoin, from $1k to above $13k today.

For realistic measures, I predict it'll go $5k by the end of 2K18, but correct me if I'm wrong later. Cheesy
Sounds familiar isn't it? LOL.

I've been holding my Ethereum for last 3 months and I must say that it really give me a good profit. I hope that it will peak at $10K this year because it would made me very rich at the end of the year.  Grin

Its early to tell, we have seen how crypto price goes, very volatile and unstable. So the only thing that is on our side is those new investors that will come to the market in the next several months. I hope that they do flock and pour their cash on Ethereum and Bitcoin so that we can really surpass and get to $5K-$10K this year.
6979  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Trade.io (TIO) speculation on: January 15, 2018, 08:03:14 PM
For those of you who have bought Trade.io or earned it through bounties, it's now in CoinMarketCap, Bitgup and in OKex. As of today, the market price of Trade.io was at $1.40, which is way below than I'm expected.

I remember that the final price of Trade.io is 1 ETH = 600 TIO. It seems that they're not having a great start when integrating to OKex. However, HitBTC will include them within next week, and hopefully Binance and Cryptopia are considering them as well.

I was expecting between $2 to $3 at least, but this is just the start. I'm going to give them some time to make the value grow even more. However, there will be FUDders and dumpers out there. I think yesterday, it went down to $0.98 but slowly got back up.

What do you think about Trade.io guys? Any price speculation do you have in mind? Thanks!

Hmm. Actually I'm also disappointed at how the price turns out to be. Its really specially when you look at their bounty page and says "1 ETH = 600 TIO". I thought HitBTC already listed them ahead of Okex? I guess the dumping occurs because the bounty hunters got their tokens(but less).

Another issue I'm seeing is that there are a lot of bounty hunters still not receiving or getting less than what they are promise from all their hard work. I hope that this can be settled ASAP.

I don't have speculation but if I have that tokens, I will not dump it but hold it longer term. Such promised with this project in the beginning and I think it was in the top #5 ICO if I'm not mistaken. So I will advise to just hold on it.
6980  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Price and Alt coin on: January 15, 2018, 07:34:20 PM
Hi everyone, I can't see similar topic so I create this one!
Nice.

I see Btc Price look go up and down so quickly. I think it because money transfer from btc to altcoin from trader. How can this situation can continue?
There are a lot of reasons why bitcoin price is swinging, like people cashing out of just what you have said, they are shifting to where the money is. Right now altcoin is booming, and maybe investors are really moving their money on altcoin market.. This will continue until such time that bitcoin enjoy a bull run. Investors will go back to the bitcoin ecosystem and join the hype train once again.

And anyone can predict what happen in the future with BTC price ( like one must die for other) because day by day, bitcoin look like just a statue, the value decrease.
No one can predict what will happen in the future, unless you are a time traveler. Even TA is not working on the market because its based on pure speculation.
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