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701  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals!|ARGENTINA & AVFC on: December 18, 2023, 07:23:21 PM
Makes sense. He probably doesn't want to give up on fame and money which is why he didn't retire early. Attention seeker basically!
He has osteoarthritis in his left knee and is in constant pain, has to take up to three pills and has to do an injection (probably corticosteroids) before football matches. If he doesn't stop football, i.e. if he doesn't retire, his body will force him to retire and it will be even more painful because he won't be able to walk normally. I think he has enough money to retire and live amazing life the rest of his life. His fame is already gone.

I think that he might move in America just to have a guaranteed high quality of life along with Messi and will play with less enthusiasm. By the way, Messi's influence is super high, this guy just tells Inter Miami to transfer his friend and pay him millions of dollars Cheesy I can't believe it.
Some people do this and I have no idea why. When you are talking about that much bodily harm for you, then you should not be playing at all. I understand that it could be financial reasons, maybe he spent all his money on useless stuff and poor right now, but you need to understand that you could always be a good coach and make a decent amount of money.

These players are never going to earn money like we do, even if he is a coach somewhere, he could make like 50k at their start, per year, and that may not be a lot, and many do make more, the end result of that could become 2-3 million a year earning manager, so he has a great path ahead of him when he retires. All he has to do is shrink his living style down to what he earns, and he will be fine. I personally never understood players who keep playing for more money, if you can then that's great but if you can't, find another job in football world that pays maybe a lot less, but at least a good chunk of money anyway, and he could live a decent life, still probably better than us.
702  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: December 18, 2023, 06:59:45 PM
I have to say PSG is doing better than I expected, maybe people may not like the outlook at the league so far, but they are adjusting to the current roster, and even getting ready for a PSG without Mbappe and I have to say it is not really looking that bad. I get that you may not like the situation all that much, but it really doesn't look too bad to me, it looks quite alright.

I get that it feels a bit more confusing when you are not seeing them win a lot but they get rid of Messi and Neymar on the same season and still playing amazing, in a season where they did this, they were expected to be much worse, but they are not and they are doing fine so I think that's actually a good thing, we should approach that as a good thing.
703  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: December 18, 2023, 05:02:31 PM
If they had made out such changes then it would be understandable  that they are already making some cost-cutting when it comes to marketing but actually we dont really know about the reason on such changes
whether they had just dropped out the number of applications because they arent really that needing that much or they are really that having that cost cutting.
Well, its their company so they've do have the rights on how they would really be handling out to their business. We cant really be able to conclude that their revenue becomes less
but i wont really be shocked if ever it is happening consicering that competition gets really high and tough then its not something that would be shocking imho.

Important thing that despite of the cut-off, they are really that still having that exposure into this forum on which they are still that getting in line
with those current existing ones on which this is really that still just fine.
I have been always in favour of trying to get more people for less money if I was a company. I mean as people who wear signatures we prefer that they pay a lot to just a few people and hope that we could be lucky enough to be one of those people and that's understandable. However, I feel like one of the most important parts is to get your name heard by as many people as possible.

So, if you could pay 100 dollars to 10 people, that will be 1000 dollars, but if you paid 25 dollars per week per person then you could get 40 people, and if the requirement is at least 25 posts, then you get 1000 posts, instead of 250 posts per week. That's literally all you have to do and yes it would not be a lot of people but "some" people will do it, and your manager will check the quality and fire anyone who just spams and will hire anyone who looks decent. I believe that's the way they should go.
704  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 18, 2023, 01:00:23 PM
Everyone believed (you can check the poll) that City will win this season as well, and don't get me wrong they still do have a chance to win the league that's true but they are getting worse and worse.

The injured and missing players are making a huge huge difference, Gvardiol was a great transfer, Doku was just a future transfer and didn't really feel like he is a must get, but compared to that, Laporte who was there for a long time left, Ilkay left, Riyad wasn't playing much anyway but left, Cole Palmer left, Mendy left, De Bruyne injured, Doku now injured, they are really having trouble putting up a decent eleven on the field and that's making them lose way too many points where they shouldn't against teams they were expected to win.
705  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: December 17, 2023, 07:18:24 PM
I wouldn’t recommend depositing on websites like this, usually end up exit-scamming, or just have fake bonuses.
Yup freebitcoin has been here since like 2013 and has been "scamming" nicely with proven payouts of Lambos and jackpots.

I myself have been a winner of their 200$ faucet roll and am also investing on their site for some time now. Grin

I would be pretty happy that they continue the "exit-scam" like this so that we all can make some money from it. Its the oldest running faucet till date and we are all part of the scam. Isnt that cool enough?
The funnier part is that this website has been here for 10+ years now, and they have been giving away millions of dollars, and I do not mean like at times, I mean like it still gives out insane amount of money every single day, calculate how many people claim free money from here every single hour and you will realize how much they are giving away and... some guy says they will exit scam...

I mean when you see that you know that it's just some guy who is trying to take revenge for losing his money with his own will and nothing more. They go to the website, deposit the money and then gamble to make some money but they end up losing it all and they get angry about that fact like it's websites fault and come here and write these silly stuff.
706  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: December 17, 2023, 05:52:54 PM
It's true that Barcelona is not playing terribly, but they are having troubles at the last part and should consider that we are talking about something that is generally not that easy, it could be something that will definitely hurt everyone on the long run if they are not careful. This is why I believe that we need to make sure that we know what we are doing and not really hurt our own chances. I get that it is still a difficult thing to handle when you are betting on Barcelona, but we are talking about a situation where they haven't been that good at finishing and because of that they are having trouble getting wins as well.

When you get a dozen shots in and still end up losing, that usually ends up being a bad team to bet on for a win. Barcelona has been unlucky about scoring, and we need to make sure that they do end up with a good striker, and don't get me wrong Lewandowski is great and all, but it just doesn't fit with Barcelona system for Lewandowski, they need someone else.
707  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A gambler takes his own life after a loss. on: December 17, 2023, 04:46:24 PM
A person can only take his life if he is under immense mental pressure, and that mental pressure makes them mentally paralyzed after one point which means that they lose the ability to think or understand anything, that's when they decide to end it all and they finish their life. They say that a person loses their ability to think or feel anything within 15 minutes of committing suicide, but I would say that they lose this ability right after the point where they start taking too much stress. After that point, they just stay pressurized until the last moments.

Gambling or anything else that involves finances and carries risk isn't for people who can't handle pressure or don't have low self-esteem and self-control, because such people will quickly become stressed out even if they lose a small amount, and that pressure starts building as they keep losing until it reaches a point from where they can't go back or get out.
I think the biggest trouble is that we are talking about people who already have psychological issues, that's the main root of the problem. If I lose everything I have to gambling, and I mean everything, my house, my car, my possessions, my money, have maxed out credit card and maxed out loans and all, basically ALL is gone, which all would be worth a ton, and would mean I will never live a decent life ever again, I would still not consider that as a reason to hurt myself.

You can leave me with one pant, one shirt, and leave me on the street with none around me, my family disowned me, my wife divorced me, living on the streets and I guarantee you that in 6 months to a year I will build myself a life where I could just sleep at a tiny room, and have food everyday to eat, sure not a rich life, quite poor, but not homeless drug addict or taking my life levels. This is mental health, you need to have mental health at good level to be like this, it's not talent or skill, it's not seeking help when you need it.
708  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 17, 2023, 03:34:39 PM
Barcelona being offered a lot of money is not the issue, they may always accept that as long as the yare offered a decent amount of money, hell getting rid of the salary would be a good start to begin with as well.

The problem is that the players may not accept, you have to agree that Saudi Arabia as a nation is not a place that everyone loves, you can agree with their disposition or not, but you have to accept that as a fact, you may not be getting all the players you want due to some cultural incompatibility, some people grew up with a totally opposite culture to what SA has and they may not like the idea of going there, and this is why no matter how much money you offer, they may reject. And not like they will offer 1 billion to Lewandowski neither, it would be something he can reject, still a good chunk but not enough to question.
709  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🔥🔥🔥 BC.GAME - CASINO AND SPORTSBOOK | $1,000 GIVEAWAY LIVE! 🔥🔥🔥 on: December 16, 2023, 07:06:03 PM
This is a very annoying moment, I tried to make target x100 in the original bc.game crash game. Many times I failed to get it so I decided to stop and wait after about 5 rounds, but only 2 times I didn't bet, a rainbow appeared and I could only look it with an annoyed heart. #wtf



Do you often experience things like this?
eheheh it reminds me when I used to play poker tournaments : when your are doing good in a tournament it used to last several ours and sometimes I left my seat to go to bathroom or have a drink or a snack .... just to discover I was dealt ( and timed out) AA  ,  I always jokingly claimed poker sites spy on their players' cameras.
Now we can say something similar for crash games  Cheesy Cheesy
Lol, that definitely is something that is common, and does happen to a lot of people Cheesy. I mean we all know the yare not spying on with cameras, hell even if they wanted to there is literally no camera in my house, nor my phone moves at all, so even if they some how got access and could do that, they still wouldn't be able to see where I am Cheesy. And yet, it is clear that sometimes these type of very unlucky stuff happens in gambling and that's just fine.

I get that life is not all that fair sometimes to people and we feel sorry about that, but that doesn't mean that we need to blame others for it, we were just unlucky and that's about all there is to it. We need to figure out what to do and how to move forward with it, that's all.
710  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: December 16, 2023, 05:08:19 PM
Lewandowski could always leave, we are talking about it like it's impossible but he is not doing all that great at Barcelona and they may look for another striker, in that case they will want to get rid of him and the ego of Lewandowski will not allow himself to be a bench player so he will have to move to another team. He has two choices, either he will go to a team that's top of the table at some lower league, or midtable in another league.

I mean why would you want to get paid 5 to 10 million in a club that will not win the title when you could make 100-150 million at some Saudi team? That's the most important part and I think he will want to leave for a lot of money, he will be set for life with that kind of money if he goes there.
711  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: December 16, 2023, 04:12:19 PM
Casemiro at Saudi league would be a dream come true for him, because he will not be able to make that much money anywhere else, and getting 10-20 even more millions per year is not something he could do ever, so it would be a great way to make as much money as possible before he retires. He is not that old neither, so he could play another 3-4 years as well, which means even at 25 million a year, that's another 100 million euros to his networth, that puts him at the top of the pile and could be considered a bit different.

I believe that we need to end up with something that doesn't really hurt anyone, United doesn't want him, Saudis would want him, and he would be getting richer, this works out for everyone in the end.
712  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: December 16, 2023, 01:29:33 PM
Correct Roobet seems to lessen their way of advertising here in Bitcointalk and not planning
to add more anytime in the future as even their Signature campaigns are now running with 10 members from 60 regular members
this shows the team is not that having big interest  about their events now though the art contests continues but looking at how
they marketing way now? maybe after this last event the team will end even that art contest but hoping it will not come as it
nourished artists in this forum and even those not so artists now become participants.
I do hope that they could continue to do their art competitions here, not because it may have greater returns, I am not saying they must be profiting from this, maybe they do or maybe they don't, I really do not know. However, it's something new and interesting and we need to keep it going for it to mean something. They are providing something for this forum that nobody else does, which is a chance to win by everyone and nobody else does that.

Normally, when you have a signature campaign, you pay the people who are legendary accounts a lot of money, and the newbies get nothing at all, with art competition you remove all that barrier, and you could be a person who registers today, and win tomorrow. That's always a good chance provided to people, and roobet helps with that.
713  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2023-2024 betting on: December 15, 2023, 08:29:33 PM
Same with Luka, when Exum has a solid game against the Lakers, but against the Wolves, he as check and they just rely on Luka. But his 39 points and 13 assists was not enough.

Wolves have a different kind of defense, so you can't compare them with the Lakers. They are the number 1 team in the West for a reason.

This game was a dominant win by the Wolves, and that is even Edwards was struggling with his shooting as he was only 3/19 and end up scoring 9 points only.
I do agree that Wolves are doing fine this season so far but they are one of those "figured how to work it out" teams and those teams do not end up being that great for a long time. Either they are going to start losing during the regular season and lose the top seed, or they are going to end up going into the playoffs while being the top seed and end up losing to a lower seed.

We have seen this plenty of times, hell even the title winner Denver Nuggets was that team at one point in their life, they did all they could and this should not be all that confusing to many people, we need to handle something that would not be all that crazy, we need to realize what's going on and just how dangerous it is for Wolves to think they are great.
714  Economy / Economics / Re: Which do you prefer on: December 15, 2023, 08:05:54 PM
Obviously there could be a lot of people who prefer that they end up with a trading mentality or getting rich mentality because we are in the bitcoin world and there are a lot of people who are willing to take wild risks in this market.

But there are some like us, who prefer the monthly salary, my idea of financial life so far has been work as hard as possible, make as much money as possible, spend most of it, and keep if possible 10% of my salary in bitcoin every month and then keep on saving. After a few decades when I am old, if I am alive to be old of course, then I will have a lot of money, millions if bitcoin keeps rising like this, and I would be able to just retire and leave my kids a very good life. Simple as that.
715  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 15, 2023, 04:51:03 PM
Tottenham will definitely try to win this one for sure, they were once the top team in the league and right now when you look at them it looks like they are fifth and they won just one game out of last five, that should tell you who they have been doing recently. This is why they need to end up with a win here in order to get as close as possible, should not be easy and would take a lot of time for them but they will end up with a return without a doubt, it doesn't matter how long it takes, they will end up with a win here, even if it's a last minute goal.

I understand that they have been going through a rough patch and that's not that easy and should be considered a little bit troublesome, but that doesn't mean that we can't have anything going differently, otherwise they may lose that fifth spot as well and they wouldn't want that. Notthingham Forrest is not a major team so it should not be too tough for them to have anything bigger than that at all.
716  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who should quit, and why? on: December 15, 2023, 11:20:32 AM
Well, if we are being totally honest, we should all quit, every single human in the world should quit, there should be no more gambling at all. Obviously we won't, and obviously we would always find a way, even if it means wagering amongst friends only, we would always keep on betting and it would never end, but we should definitely consider that if we can, that would be the good thing. We need to realize that life is not all that simple and we need to arrange something that will get a lot better over time.

I believe that we are going to end up with something that should be considered a little bit troublesome, and yes that is true that we are not going to end up with anything that would take some time, but we need to handle all the situation we can with this, and we need to arrange a situation that will benefit us the most in the end. I get that people may not end up with a situation that would take too long, but we need to let people do what they want to.
717  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals!|ARGENTINA & AVFC on: December 15, 2023, 08:44:24 AM
If Luiz Suarez was good enough and other bla-bla-bla. Just admin that he is old for football already. He is where he is not because clubs can not afford him, or he has lack of skill, he is just old for football. Google say that football players retire at 34-38. Suarez is 36 already. Football players peak form is between 25-27. And Duelbits made a contract with him, because among famous and good players, Suarez is famous, good, but has that biting controversial feature.

As long as the player is no longer in peak physical shape, as you said, from the age of 25-27, in my opinion, it's not so simple to define whether you're old enough to play soccer
If the team has a good composition of young players and older and more experienced players, it can use the experience of a player of this size to its advantage. A player who has played in Europe, Champions League, against all the best teams in the world, the World Cup, etc., has a lot to add to a team


I didn't know peak performance for soccer players was 25-27
I've heard that usually peak performance for men is 33 but you can probably mitigate age related issues by training, sleeping and eating well, with some limitation, of course, as an example it'll be hard to see a 50 years old compete with a 25 who's in shape and practicing often.

33 is a peak for a regular men. Professional athletes have their peak lower (for example at artistic gymnastics athletes professional athletes retire at 17-19y.o), because they always put their body on the limit, their body exhaust more. If they were machines, then they have huge mileage. Like taxi cars breaks or die faster than regular cars Cheesy Why football players retire early - probably due to muscles structure, flexibility, body recovery phases and etc.
It is not the same anymore as it used to be, back in the day people did had younger peaks, but nowadays players do have older peaks, like having 30+ years old player is not that bad, people end up having 32-33 as their peak best years, back in the day it was 27 or so, and after 30 they were getting closer to retirement.

Look at the players who played during 90's for example, most of them retired before 35, and look at now, most players still play after 35 as well. This means that we need to realize that Suarez is still good enough, and I think it should be noted that he has been playing well right now as well, maybe he is not at his peak I can see that but he is still playing very well and still gets a lot of attention as well.
718  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 14, 2023, 08:36:51 PM
Watching with bet is much more fun and that's why people do it anyway. I mean surely there is some money involved as well and that's one of the main reasons, but if you watch a game without betting on it and if you watch a game with betting on it then you would know the difference and you would know which one is better.

It is not even something that needs to be asked, it's simple, you have two games, you bet on one of the games and you do not bet on the other game and then you tell us what you felt like ,if betting made it better or not. Most people have their own response, for me it is clear that betting makes it wildly better, it's not even remotely close and it's clear that it's much more better and can't be worse at all.
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The difference is that you play the same amount (on martingale) when you win, but you grow your bet size when you lose. So when you bet with 100 dollars as your base, if you win 10 times in a row that means 1000 dollars and that's about it, but when you talk about 10 times in a row, that becomes 100 to 200 to 400 to 800 to 1600 to 3200 to 6400 to.. as you can see it keeps on growing and bankrupting your entire bankroll.

This is why winners do not really get any notice, you must had some amazing wins in a row but because the base bet stays the same that means people do not really care about it at all, the losers however grows up a lot and that's why people keep ending up having bigger and bigger losses in the end. This means that consecutive losses and winners are the same odds, with 10k+ bets, you get to have 10+ times in a row loss and wins all the same, but the win doesn't change much whereas the loss ends up having some sort of issues because of the growth.
720  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers should not believe in first game win trap on: December 14, 2023, 07:26:00 PM
There are literally places that makes people win their first ever game, and gives them a good return, it's designed that way, but they do put a rollover in there, so that means you end up gambling and winning so you think you are going to keep winning and you lose until you could withdraw. It makes people see that there is a possibility of winning and keep doing it more, when you have very little money left they still make you win, so that you do not end up leaving completely but then you eventually lose, that win streak in the middle is what makes you think it's possible.

So all in all, there are many places that try to scam people and should be something that we all care about and be worried about as well, these people do not directly steal your money, they end up making it look like you have lost that money during the regular period and not really look at it like you have done something wrong, and that's why many people do not realize they are getting scammed.
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