They're all scams....like scientology.
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Ponzis must go. Vote with your hearts people. Bitcoin has a serious future, but only if we are willing to stand by the truth.
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This thread should be moved. To a "soulful" discussion in Meta.
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who is this Atlas fella, care to give some background for us noobs?
 I lol'd I'm brand fucking new, even I've seen like 28 atlas threads so far Atlas is the most famous person in Bitcoin after me  . |
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It's not trolling. It's something much more related to the world of Bitcoin -- Mining. Mining comedy gold.
The comedy gold has been one of Bitcoins greatest assets. I just wish the comedy wasn't coupled with innocent people taking losses in companies like MyBitcoin or Bitcoinica, through no fault of their own. Businesses that want to deal with Bitcoin must first understand the Bitcoin economy, and the many different challenges and limitations that exist, simply because we currently have a limited user base. This is of course changing with time, and the more adoption becomes a reality, the easier it will be to start-up Bitcoin oriented businesses, and to get the clientele they need to survive in the crucial start-up phases. This of course doesn't mean "DURRR buy moar bitcoinz, I GETA millionrez status", and it surely doesn't mean that by attaching Bitcoin to your business, it's automatically going to make it blow up. What this does mean however is an opportunity for serious entrepreneurs and companies to enhance their existing product lines by offering the powerful Bitcoin infrastructure and the solid user base that backs it. I am all for reform, Including fumigating this forum of all the parasites, (Scammers, Flamers, Non-Productive Trolls), and removing all the forum sections (ponzi schemes) that are detrimental to our long-term successes ! |
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Dank you are currently being trolled. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3486823Don't be angry with them, they have actually been an excellent resource to Bitcoin (I know crazy I am saying this huh). They have even trolled me in the past, and I damn well deserved every last bit of it, as it only allowed me to grow as a businessman and I only became better from it. After, I was able to focus my attention on the ideas that I was good at, and that truly have a chance at resonating with the rest of the "real world" population. If you are looking to have a successful business, listen to EVERY single thing they are saying in their posts. Your plan is poorly thought out, and has an almost definitive chance of failure. It doesn't mean it's a bad idea, it just means you have not thought out the plan properly, and simply put, you are asking for WAY to much money, and offering such a pathetic pitch to investors, it makes it all the more difficult for this start-up to even "start".. I wish you the best Dank, Don't give up on your pursuits! I must however recommend that any fellow newbie members who are reading this, stay far away from this investment, at least until more details surface, or the entire plan is reworked. Dank all you have to do is say this to yourself over and over, and you will be fine... “I know that I am intelligent, because I know that I know nothing.” - Socrates P.S Mach420 nailed it on your forum  . And yeah BitCams was a stupid fucking idea. That's why I scrapped it, thank god you guys were there to make me see my own stupidity. |
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ZYK your not exactly the most honest person yourself.  please find the members of this community , We can't.. Which is why we must speak up in every singular opportunity. You say that my posts are off topic, I say that they are right on the bulls eye! Everyone is missing the most obvious points, while relishing on what the next course of action will be. Well I say that the next "course of action" for this particular incident (and all related incidences that have to do with ponzi schemes/gambling/bad business) take place far far away from the main meeting place where the general public/media/and businesses come to congregate. Not everyone is as barbaric as some of the posters in this thread. We are absolutely SICK AND TIRED of all the nonsense, and the time has come for people who are tired of all the bad businesses, to stand up to these atrocities and RID the community of these parasites. And to you Zyk, if you want to advocate violence against another human being, get the FUCK out of our community, because again, if you come in with that initial mindset, it tells me we don't need people as unstable as you here in the first place. |
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Konichau: You should have redeemed that code while you had the chance.
Dumbest scammer ever.
Fooggyb: I sold it while I had the chance. I don't care whether the buyer redeems it or not. Where's my Bitcoin? Nowhere lol And it's gone. Konichau you damn scammer |
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Jesus if all the admins/VIPs/whatevers are going to fuck around as badly as the newbies... wtf are we to do?
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GPUMax is a money laundering operation. Havent people noticed the large amount of invites going out since pirate shut down ?
My bet he is laundering ill gotten gains and is content to sit it out for a couple of years paying miners BS&T coins and keeping newly minted coins in a different address. Its the only thing that explains it. The thing we can do as a community s boycott GPUMax if you really want to fuck with pirate.
To boycott just one Ponzi scheme, is to ignore the entire point of this story all together.. You need to start somewhere. My question is a valid question, and one that many people fail to even comprehend. What we have is something that is worth much more than the risk of fostering these kinds of "businesses" in the #1 BTC community. Why the fuck would we want to risk our trillion dollar coin, with small time money? *serious question* Do you not see how ludicrous we sound when we tell serious people that this currency is supposed to be worth millions of dollars per unit, and then they come over here and see that the only functioning businesses are low-end ponzi schemes, and scam traps in every corner? I must ask this question again to not only you but every single Bitcoiner reading this message post right now. Do you not see how ludicrous it is for people to trust us when we can't even begin to trust ourselves? Bitcoiners live in this paradigm reality, where Bitcoin has already been adopted around the entire world, and this forum only represents a "minority" of it's users, when in fact this forum IS BITCOIN, and most likely represents 80% of it's user-base. The good, the bad , and the ugly. This forum is IT, and incidences like BTCST only prove this theory further (notice how much money and people were involved). There is no outside "support system" holding Bitcoin together, it's only us against this dark and tangled planet we like to call Earth. The sooner we can all come to this honest but harsh reality, the sooner things will start to pick up and hopefully turn around before it's to late... |
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100000000000000000000000000% AGREE!!
LETS GET RID OF ALL THE FUCKING PONZIS AND SHORT BUS CASINOS WHILE WE ARE AT IT!
LETS RALLY PEOPLE!
WE ARE THE ONLY THING THAT CAN SAVE THIS CURRENCY FROM IMMINENT FAILURE!
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GPUMax is a money laundering operation. Havent people noticed the large amount of invites going out since pirate shut down ?
My bet he is laundering ill gotten gains and is content to sit it out for a couple of years paying miners BS&T coins and keeping newly minted coins in a different address. Its the only thing that explains it. The thing we can do as a community s boycott GPUMax if you really want to fuck with pirate.
To boycott just one Ponzi scheme, is to ignore the entire point of this story all together.. |
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Your 20/20 hindsight is adding exactly 0 value to this thread. OMG, you must be trolling  And so is does your archaic call for violence. -0- Value in a modern society. Which BTW would only keep this disgusting and vicious cycle going on for ever. How the fuck do you guys think the planet got to the state of which it's in now in the first place? You're seeing it with your very own eyes, and Bitcoin is essentially modeling everything that has happened in the "real world", at an incredibly fast pace. If we are to change the planet, we must do it by being different, not by following the same old tired rituals of the past. Instead of falling for the petty pits of deceit and evil, we must transcend as a community, and push for a much better future... If not then what is the point of all this? You still have not added any value to this post. Nothing. Nada. Can you go and thread crap something in Off-topic section? Let me help you to "fuck off" in right direction: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=9.0 You see, I am a nice guy Thank you for going away now You're an idiot. /ignored P.S Putting words in peoples mouths is consider trolling you dumb nub. |
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You are putting words in my mouth, of course, like a true troll...
I am advocating for a radical change in direction, far far away from any of these so called "investments".
And whiners who lost money in the latest scam, should eat their losses, and accept that they too were conspirators of an obvious ponzi scheme.
This is all of course if they truly care about Bitcoin and would like to see it succeed.
If people want to go on a virtual witch hunt, I honestly couldn't think of anything more detrimental to Bitcoin.
It will just prolong this entire incident, and cause even more pain and losses.
IF they don't care about Bitcoin, then I really am not interested in giving those type of people even one minute of my time.
The reality is that people will do what they feel they need to do, whether you are talking about cash, gold or Bitcoins. Lives have been lost over gold and cash, yet it doesn't invalidate them. The Bitcoin "community" already extends far beyond this forum. You can't expect to control what people do and don't do with their coins, just like you can't tell people what to do with their gold and cash. You have a point. So my simple question to the community (which is doing alot of soul searching right now) is... Should this place (effectively ground zero in the Bitcoin world) be a literal BREEDING GROUND, for this kind of deplorable behavior? Should honest businesses and individuals get hurt (like they are hurting right now) by the actions of a few greedy assholes, all because certain people want to have their "fun"? That is what is happening right now. SERIOUS PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY ARE TAKING A SECOND LOOK AT BITCOIN, AND THIS TIME AROUND IT'S NOT A "GOOD LOOK". BE VERY CAREFUL BITCOIN COMMUNITY BECAUSE ONE THING IS VERY CLEAR YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW! The very same system that you guys are fighting so hard to "take down" might be formulating right before your very eyes.. |
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Your 20/20 hindsight is adding exactly 0 value to this thread. OMG, you must be trolling And so is does your archaic call for violence. -0- Value in a modern society. Which BTW would only keep this disgusting and vicious cycle going on for ever. How the fuck do you guys think the planet got to the state of which it's in now in the first place? You're seeing it with your very own eyes, and Bitcoin is essentially modeling everything that has happened in the "real world", at an incredibly fast pace. If we are to change the planet, we must do it by being different, not by following the same old tired rituals of the past. Instead of falling for the petty pits of deceit and evil, we must transcend as a community, and push for a much better future... If not then what is the point of all this? |
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You are much more likely to see a charge for running an unregistered security than a Ponzi (where a Ponzi by definition is an unregistered security).
The only problem is if regulators go after Pirate for offering unregistered securities (whether the Ponzi aspect comes into play or not), they would go after EVERYONE. All the exchanges here, GLBSE, etc. are illegal, unregistered securities from a US regulator's perspective. They all pass the Dewey Test.
So while Pirate may have scammed many and you can lay Ponzi/fraud charges on top, having this community pursue civil or criminal action is kind of like a group of drug dealers getting together and complaining about the one dealer who scammed them.
Exactly, I don't why people are acting so naive. Everyone needs to take responsibility for their own investment decisions. +9000 So, what you are saying is that only way to take this scammer down is by other means than legal action. Lets hope this happens soon. Do not forget to post pictures for proof of capture etc. He has to go down. FULL STOP. You are putting words in my mouth, of course, like a true troll... I am advocating for a radical change in direction, far far away from any of these so called "investments". And whiners who lost money in the latest scam, should eat their losses, and accept that they too were conspirators of an obvious ponzi scheme. This is all of course if they truly care about Bitcoin and would like to see it succeed. If people want to go on a virtual witch hunt, I honestly couldn't think of anything more detrimental to Bitcoin. It will just prolong this entire incident, and cause even more pain and losses. IF they don't care about Bitcoin, then I really am not interested in giving those type of people even one minute of my time. |
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You are much more likely to see a charge for running an unregistered security than a Ponzi (where a Ponzi by definition is an unregistered security).
The only problem is if regulators go after Pirate for offering unregistered securities (whether the Ponzi aspect comes into play or not), they would go after EVERYONE. All the exchanges here, GLBSE, etc. are illegal, unregistered securities from a US regulator's perspective. They all pass the Dewey Test.
So while Pirate may have scammed many and you can lay Ponzi/fraud charges on top, having this community pursue civil or criminal action is kind of like a group of drug dealers getting together and complaining about the one dealer who scammed them.
Exactly, I don't why people are acting so naive. Everyone needs to take responsibility for their own investment decisions. +9000 |
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I'm a Democrat, and even I don't trust my government lol.
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Matthew, As many disagreements as I may have had with you. This only saddens me  . This all could have easily been prevented on so many levels.. All I can say is, I hope you learned something... |
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