Boy, you sure told 'em crysx. Agreed!

Anyone else having trouble with Cryptsy at this moment?

It seems to be incredibly slow. Pages aren't updating properly. Watching the feed on Bitcoinwisdom there aren't too many bid/ask updates happening either which suggests Cryptsy users aren't on there updating their buy/sell orders.

edit: looks like it's just come good now.

Like many here, I upgraded my masternode within 30 minutes of the release and all went fine. Kept checking it for the next couple of hours and a grep kept retuning a '1' so all okay. Then when the ninja MN monitoring site was updated it was showing on there with 0.11.1.19 version too.

But I hadn't checked it for a couple of hours and looked just now and realised it was gone from the ninja list. Logged into my VPS and a grep wasn't returning anything (just bringing up next prompt like you've pressed the enter key without entering any command). Did several getinfo's and the block was not stuck and was keeping track of the same block as my 0.11.1.19 wallet. So I did a masternode start from the remote wallet again and it's back online (and back on the ninja list).

Suggest everyone checks their MNs more regularly than usual. Perhaps there's an issue that's causing them to drop off.

Upvoted your comment and MasterMined710's.

That story is an extremely lame beat-up by "journalists" that are following a paparazzi "throw enough mud at celebrities and some will definitely stick" style of operation. Ignored.

Well, to at least an altitude of 51,000 feet (if we make up some sort of fictitious notion of there being ten Darkcoin per foot and, as Minotaur's pointed out, a maximum at the moment of around 5,100 masternodes). But given that's higher than all current commercial airliners can fly you can still say that "the sky's the limit".

Congratulations Tao. You've worked consistently at this.

We could actually be sitting on a volcano about to erupt. If there are people that have been keeping a check on DRK with a view to buying enough for an MN (or several) but not until it's somehow "proved" itself (whatever that means; something tells me we're there) we could see it race up past 0.01, then quickly 0.02. 0.03, 0.04, 0.05.....it's entirely possible a sudden lift-off/eruption is on the cards like nothing we've seen with DRK yet. Hold on everyone!

Yes, I don't go on there much either but thought I would today to see if DRK's getting any mentions.

Here's the comment in context (about 13 posts down from the top).

http://trollboxarchive.com/id/133707767

Meanwhile, over on the BTC-e troll box someone ventured forth this question:


and then a minute or so later after getting no response:


and that was just on an hour ago now and not a single response.

As people have noted before, BTC-e is an almost completely clueless realm in regards to actual real developments in crypto. It's like they've all entered a "if it's not LTC related it doesn't exist" see-no-evil, hear-no-evil speak-no-evil zombie state.

And times have been just as good here on February 9th too!

Great post wozzek23! I won't comment on anything specifically but appreciate all you've said.

No, not at all. Read my second posting above. Nothing to do with "controlling" a crypto.

 
Yes. We are each responsible for our own well being. The over turning of the nanny state can't come fast enough IMO. But again, read the above post. I'm talking about perception and the potential for DRK to be subject to an unsustainable level of scrutiny and attack and the need for us to consider how we might minimise this.

Read my above post. You're dumbing down what I'm talking about and making assumptions that I haven't thought through these concepts when I have. Again I'm talking about the concept of taking care with our outbound messaging to minimise the intensity of scrutiny and potential trouble and save our resources for more useful things than constant defence.


Yes. But we can consider how there may be pathways of less difficulty and trouble and then work on travelling those pathways. I'm talking about the need for strategy in dealing with the media.

I think you've missed some of the core points of my position. I'm not naive nor am I thinking about this in a naive way. I'm suggesting the need for clarity around the outbound messaging to minimise the inevitable flare up that's coming. That's about consideration for what resources we're likely to have to address which "battles" are worth taking on.

Well I'm really glad you (specifically you) Bridgewater responded because in the first posting you made on here a few weeks back you highlighted how the anonymity features of DRK really assist fungability and that it's true fungability (which is looking shakier and shakier by the day for BTC) that promotes a genuinely successful currency that doesn't end up being flawed. I remember that you made the concept explicitly clear and easily understandable.

I agree with you entirely that to highlight "digital cash" (de-branding DRK for a moment and expressing it as a basic noun) as the cause or facilitator of illicit drugs is tantamount (as per your analogies) to blaming cars because they're used by armed bandits in bank hold-ups as getaway vehicles or saying mobile phones are bad because it's been shown terrorists are using them to remotely detonate bombs or (insert a dozen similar examples of a tool or technology facilitating something unhealthy for society).

The challenge for us all though is that these concepts (i.e. it's not the medium that's bad, it's the small number of humans using the medium to commit crime) are easily understood by people like us in a community like this and any ignorant view expressed along the lines of "DRK is for drugs" can easily be negated within forums and Internet boards like this. However, (and it's a bloody enormous 'HOWEVER'), as we all know, mainstream media and politicians have zero appetite for intelligent and logical reasoning/assessment in this six second sound byte maelstrom of a world we now live in and it is in these realms that we will lose the battle if we're not considerate of the mess we could get into.

What I'm wanting us to be consciously aware of is that if people post on these forums along the lines of "Yeah, cool.....it's Silk Road Relaunched and SR version 3, 4 and 5 where we're gonna shine....once the dark markets get hold of DRK this thing's going to the moon!" it will eventually be picked up by someone on FOX or CBS or NBC as their pet "exposing the drug financiers" feature series and a ridiculous leap of ignorance will result in some outlandish mainstream reports tarnishing us with a brush of untruthful notions such as "Apparently they built this anonymity specifically for the drug market..." The result will be all of us will end up under enormous scrutiny. Evan will be hit from all angles and pilloried as "the drug coin crypto king" and all manner of "PR crisis" style attack activity will eventuate (this may sound alarmist but I can clearly see it happening).

So when I said about "I'm standing by for a barrage of libertarian rhetoric" what I'm talking about is the "libertarian purest" style of argument that happens again and again on forums like this (which I'm not suggesting for a moment you're engaged in) that upholds valid points about the technology and "freedom" but forgets about the practicalities of finding a measured pathway through all of this that offers the least amount of compromise while ensuring we don't get hammered and "taken-out" before we've had the chance for the mainstream to even be introduced to the notions of "privacy as a right" and fungability being probably the most important attribute of sound money. I'm wanting us (and Evan and the Darkcoin Foundation need to weigh in on this to establish a modus operandi of sorts) to all think about how, as a community we can prevent the fanboy excitement from seeping out everywhere if DRK gets picked up by the dark markets in a big way and how we can stay "on message" as to what's really important about DRK's anonymous attributes and why they're fundamentally good for all.

There's a battle looming and we need to be savvy and very aware of how all the good that's been done here will get twisted and abused in an attempt to sully the good names and reputations of the very fine people involved. It's going to require commitment to a series of clarifying messages to help keep us from being seen as the facilitator of an even worse drug market than what already existed via the original SR and an avoidance of constant suggestions of things being "really great" because we're being adopted by dark markets.

That's the essence of what I'm posting about.

I read postings like these with comments like this:


and



and I just cringe and cringe and cringe.

In fact more than cringe, I start thinking "forget it, if that's the main driver of Darkcoin, count me out".

I know all the arguments and have heard all the "we can't control what people use it for" reasoning but honestly guys, if you're excited that the black market for illicit drugs will grab hold of Darkcoin and adopt it as the mainstay crypto because of all the great anon features in Darkcoin and Darkcoin will rally and this drug-based adoption will push it to new highs (and you're believing this is a great thing for Darkcoin) I think you're a bunch of fuckwits with even less intelligence than your obvious naivety suggests.

If Darkcoin becomes THE main drug currency and replaces BTC mostly on the back of the drug trade I think it will be a travesty as we will have completely lost control of what it is and it will be impossible for it to be seen as anything other than a totally nefarious and criminal enterprise. Many many good people will probably walk away at that point as they don't want to be involved in something that's just so on-the-nose and destructive.

I just don't think people are "thinking" clearly about this. It could turn into an unrecoverable disaster for Darkcoin.

(standing by to be hit with a barrage of "You're not understanding what an anon crypto really achieves"...blah blah over-the-top-libertarian-rhetoric-blah. Bottom line is that if DRK is primarily a drug currency, I'm out as I just cannot and don't want to support it).

Horizontalcareer you are making such an ass of yourself. You and Spreadnodes; you're like a couple of spoilt whining kids.

Just give the "There's a pool! There's a pool! They're lying! There's a pool!" screaming away will you?

Hatch's intelligent summation of what the situation really is with regards to the typical definition of "pools" and yours and Spreadnode's inane holding onto this one example of a few miners in a small group requiring trust between them all (so in essence not a pool in the normal sense), is a desperate attempt to discredit Spreadcoin. You honestly must think we're all stupid. Just give it way for goodness sake!

The thing with Spreadcoin is there's clearly an intelligent and competent developer behind it. For that alone it's worth following and watching how things play out. Yes, of course there's the potential for a big P&D to happen with large holders exiting (there is in EVERY crypto). Again, most people on here are not stupid. If you invest in crypto you're investing in unchartered, unregulated, unsure, uncertain "assets" that have enormous potential for manipulation; it's part of the deal.

Carrying on like you and Spreadnodes do carries ZERO weight with any of us that have half a brain.

Ha!

How long before postings have some sort of "mod protect" fee that can be added (a bit like the transaction fee in crypto) where your post will have more resistance to being deleted and you'll be offered levels of "protection" (you know, Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum.....at Platinum you can say anything about anyone).

I reckon it's coming soon!

Mate, I'm not going to use the c word because I don't, but I sure can relate to why wolf0 did (even though he's apologised)!

You are sooooooooo pedantic! You are going on and on and on. It's worse than having a three year old asking for lollies at the supermarket checkout while you're tying to do ten other things at the same time.

WE GET IT RIGHT! You don't like MyFarm. You don't like how this has all played out so far. You think they're lying. You think it's a P&D. WE'VE HEARD IT AND WE'VE HEARD IT LOUD AND CLEAR


You've already done it you fool! You've slung more mud and pedalled more innuendo plus direct accusations in these past few pages than anyone.

GIVE IT A REST!

GO AWAY!

LEAVE EVERYONE ALONE!

Get a life for goodness sake and go create your own coin where you can control how it plays out. Leave the Spread people and Spreadcoin to the people who are willing to give it a go (with all the risks that involves; this is cryptoland, do you really think you're so much more knowledgeable than other people on here that you have to just bang on about this stuff ad nauseum forever!!!???).

JUST LEAVE AND GO DO SOMETHING ELSE!



(FFS every time I click post you've posted yet again while I'm typing....unbelievable!)

We're sick of reading pages and pages of it and just as many posts that are rebuttals. I think it was a perfectly okay move.

Spreadnodes I've been reading your many dozens of postings and your intense criticism of Spread, key Spread followers and now, the decision to create a moderated Spread thread here on BCT.

I've been around for a decade or two (or three) so I have a pretty good nose for people that have an agenda and are desperately trying to influence and push their message onto other people that are most likely not wanting to partake in the process.

You are one such person. Against the backdrop of all that's been said on this thread over the past couple of months, the people involved and the nature of what's being built here by Mr Spread, I can honestly say that you are coming off as being way more dubious than any of the key people here and way more likely to be attempting to manipulate.

The mere fact that you are posting just so many critical posts everyday, is indicative of what I'm talking about. You're coming up again and again with the same drama and screaming-blue-murder comments multiple times on every page.

If you're really so concerned and find Spread and the people involved so distasteful, then why don't you just leave? You've said your piece (again and again and again) so why don't you just go and find your way to a community that does meet your standards and expectations of how things should be conducted?

This is clearly not the place for you (and now that there's a moderated thread your behaviour seriously won't be tolerated in, Spread is even less "the place for you").

So do yourself (and the rest of us) a favour Spreadnodes. Just sign-off, say "Hasta La vista baby" to everyone and go and do something that fits.