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Author Topic: [ANN] SpreadCoin | True Decentralization (No Pools) | Testing New Masternodes  (Read 810026 times)
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February 05, 2015, 12:43:41 AM
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LOL @ the pump and dumpers here. Remember MyFarm from XC snafu days.

He gets around doesn't he.  Same plan just different coin.  The thing is that he's not fooling anyone this time.  He left a bunch of heavy darkcoin bagholders after that pump to .02 and then the dump to .003

People are wise to his schemes.  Or is it a she?  Who know and who even cares.  They're bad news that's for sure.  Once mrfarm gets involved you can be sure that a pump and dump is on the way.

Just say NO to mrfarm and his pump and dumps

All he does is destroy a coin and then move on to do it again with a different coin.  People would be wise to avoid him like the plague. 
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February 05, 2015, 01:08:10 AM
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To celebrate the new thread without trolls, I've create a nice buy wall on Bittrex Smiley

I was wondering who was manipulating the price.
This is definitely a p&d coin controlled by a handful of people.
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February 05, 2015, 01:26:14 AM
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Last 20 Blocks Found
Block    Validity    Finder    Time    Difficulty    Amount    Expected Shares    PPLNS Shares    Actual Shares    Percentage
253088    Confirmed    antonio8    02/04/2015 14:49:09    54.5328    6.2449    13,960    10,810    3,460    24.79
253049    Confirmed    antonio8    02/04/2015 14:20:48    52.6495    6.2449    13,478    9,945    1,346    9.99
253034    Confirmed    zorbo    02/04/2015 14:10:04    51.9182    6.2449    13,291    20,600    36,500    274.62
252676    Confirmed    antonio8    02/04/2015 08:05:13    54.3369    6.2455    13,910    8,161    777    5.59
252665    Confirmed    Admin    02/04/2015 07:56:53    54.6609    6.2456    13,993    9,963    2,237    15.99
252639    Confirmed    antonio8    02/04/2015 07:33:26    54.2116    6.2456    13,878    10,396    908    6.54
252624    Confirmed    zorbo    02/04/2015 07:24:00    52.8623    6.2456    13,533    28,921    60,917    450.14
252271    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/04/2015 01:34:55    51.5502    6.2462    13,197    10,752    9,744    73.83
252230    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/04/2015 00:56:25    51.6486    6.2463    13,222    12,674    14,016    106.01
252196    Confirmed    zorbo    02/04/2015 00:01:22    54.9698    6.2463    14,072    11,431    9,705    68.97
252160    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/03/2015 23:22:53    54.7035    6.2464    14,004    8,992    160    1.14
252158    Confirmed    zorbo    02/03/2015 23:22:14    55.3357    6.2464    14,166    11,165    2,888    20.39
252144    Confirmed    antonio8    02/03/2015 23:10:41    54.3076    6.2464    13,903    15,962    11,921    85.74
252092    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/03/2015 22:23:36    53.4211    6.2465    13,676    17,719    20,266    148.19
252010    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/03/2015 21:03:39    51.4861    6.2467    13,180    15,112    14,119    107.12
251959    Confirmed    zorbo    02/03/2015 20:06:43    53.6063    6.2467    13,723    13,949    8,346    60.82
251920    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/03/2015 19:32:58    53.6161    6.2468    13,726    19,758    20,683    150.68
251836    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/03/2015 18:10:37    54.4567    6.2469    13,941    17,995    18,889    135.49
251769    Confirmed    antonio8    02/03/2015 16:55:58    55.9288    6.2471    14,318    15,860    14,742    102.96
251711    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/03/2015 15:58:02    56.5961    6.2472    14,489    15,281    15,775    108.88
Totals    275,660    285,446    267,399    97.00

 Grin

Now don't go proving that there are pools for spreadcoin.  They'll just call it fud.  



Shall I borrow my pool account to anyone who is questioning the existence of pools ?
That seems not safe for me,for I share the same account/password at different pools.

screenshot of pool management console, please.

I don't see anything wrong they found 20 block form 1377 block generated in almost 24 hours what is the problem?

It doesn't matter how many blocks they found.  It says "no pools" in the ANN and pools do exist.  So the claims made are inaccurate.  That's what's wrong.  If you claim no pools then there should be no pools.

Just like they claimed there was no optimized miner and there is an optimized miner. 

How can you trust anything from the people behind spreadcoin when they have already been caught in more than one lie?
Because it's a private pool with very limited pool hashrate,block finding interval would be a little longer.
But it does prove that POOL WORKS AS WELL AS ANY OTHER POOL-MINING COIN.
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February 05, 2015, 01:29:20 AM
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I'm thinking of buying the optimized miner, making it public, and relaunching this coin with the miner available for everyone at launch.

The first order of business is making sure that it is solo only.  And as far as I am concerned that should have been priority number one before myfarm got here and pushed his ponzinodes on everyone.  I believe that a solo only coin is a winner.  Something that anyone can mine and everyone has an equal chance to get coins.  That was what I thought this coin was but then that changed and it got hijacked and turned into just another pump and dump by mrfarm after he bought up a huge percentage of available spreadcoin and then got the optimized miner for him and his buddies.  His obvious pump and dump scheme was the last straw.

Anyone that wants to get involved and contribute let me know.  We can get together on skype or pm me and work out details.  The original concept of this coin was great.  Unfortunately that greatness got overtaken by greed.

Lets make a real cryptocurrency for everyone where everyone is equal.  Well at least as equal as can be.  Nothing is ever going to be perfect but we can try.  

Let me know.

Thanks

  

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February 05, 2015, 01:31:14 AM
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Last 20 Blocks Found
Block    Validity    Finder    Time    Difficulty    Amount    Expected Shares    PPLNS Shares    Actual Shares    Percentage
253088    Confirmed    antonio8    02/04/2015 14:49:09    54.5328    6.2449    13,960    10,810    3,460    24.79
253049    Confirmed    antonio8    02/04/2015 14:20:48    52.6495    6.2449    13,478    9,945    1,346    9.99
253034    Confirmed    zorbo    02/04/2015 14:10:04    51.9182    6.2449    13,291    20,600    36,500    274.62
252676    Confirmed    antonio8    02/04/2015 08:05:13    54.3369    6.2455    13,910    8,161    777    5.59
252665    Confirmed    Admin    02/04/2015 07:56:53    54.6609    6.2456    13,993    9,963    2,237    15.99
252639    Confirmed    antonio8    02/04/2015 07:33:26    54.2116    6.2456    13,878    10,396    908    6.54
252624    Confirmed    zorbo    02/04/2015 07:24:00    52.8623    6.2456    13,533    28,921    60,917    450.14
252271    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/04/2015 01:34:55    51.5502    6.2462    13,197    10,752    9,744    73.83
252230    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/04/2015 00:56:25    51.6486    6.2463    13,222    12,674    14,016    106.01
252196    Confirmed    zorbo    02/04/2015 00:01:22    54.9698    6.2463    14,072    11,431    9,705    68.97
252160    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/03/2015 23:22:53    54.7035    6.2464    14,004    8,992    160    1.14
252158    Confirmed    zorbo    02/03/2015 23:22:14    55.3357    6.2464    14,166    11,165    2,888    20.39
252144    Confirmed    antonio8    02/03/2015 23:10:41    54.3076    6.2464    13,903    15,962    11,921    85.74
252092    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/03/2015 22:23:36    53.4211    6.2465    13,676    17,719    20,266    148.19
252010    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/03/2015 21:03:39    51.4861    6.2467    13,180    15,112    14,119    107.12
251959    Confirmed    zorbo    02/03/2015 20:06:43    53.6063    6.2467    13,723    13,949    8,346    60.82
251920    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/03/2015 19:32:58    53.6161    6.2468    13,726    19,758    20,683    150.68
251836    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/03/2015 18:10:37    54.4567    6.2469    13,941    17,995    18,889    135.49
251769    Confirmed    antonio8    02/03/2015 16:55:58    55.9288    6.2471    14,318    15,860    14,742    102.96
251711    Confirmed    chrysophylax    02/03/2015 15:58:02    56.5961    6.2472    14,489    15,281    15,775    108.88
Totals    275,660    285,446    267,399    97.00

 Grin

Now don't go proving that there are pools for spreadcoin.  They'll just call it fud.  



Shall I borrow my pool account to anyone who is questioning the existence of pools ?
That seems not safe for me,for I share the same account/password at different pools.

screenshot of pool management console, please.

I don't see anything wrong they found 20 block form 1377 block generated in almost 24 hours what is the problem?

It doesn't matter how many blocks they found.  It says "no pools" in the ANN and pools do exist.  So the claims made are inaccurate.  That's what's wrong.  If you claim no pools then there should be no pools.

Just like they claimed there was no optimized miner and there is an optimized miner. 

How can you trust anything from the people behind spreadcoin when they have already been caught in more than one lie?
Because it's a private pool with very limited pool hashrate,block finding interval would be a little longer.
But it does prove that POOL WORKS AS WELL AS ANY OTHER POOL-MINING COIN.

Find the blocks, then follow the money. I did.
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February 05, 2015, 02:06:11 AM
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The pool only has a few members in it. Owned by who? I'm going to guess that everyone in the pool is owned by the same person.  (Because he can't steal from himself) Therefore the coin still remains deeply decentralized because pools like this could pop up everywhere! Meaning that only individual mining farms would be apart of the pool.  (By the way creating your own pool would be entirely realistic for someone who owned a bitcoin farm)
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February 05, 2015, 02:16:55 AM
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The pool only has a few members in it. Owned by who? I'm going to guess that everyone in the pool is owned by the same person.  (Because he can't steal from himself) Therefore the coin still remains deeply decentralized because pools like this could pop up everywhere! Meaning that only individual mining farms would be apart of the pool.  (By the way creating your own pool would be entirely realistic for someone who owned a bitcoin farm)
Yes,you are right!The pool only has a few members in it.
Meaning what ?
Again,
It does prove that POOL WORKS AS WELL AS ANY OTHER POOL-MINING COIN.
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February 05, 2015, 02:18:30 AM
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The pool only has a few members in it. Owned by who? I'm going to guess that everyone in the pool is owned by the same person.  (Because he can't steal from himself) Therefore the coin still remains deeply decentralized because pools like this could pop up everywhere! Meaning that only individual mining farms would be apart of the pool.  (By the way creating your own pool would be entirely realistic for someone who owned a bitcoin farm)

Doesn't matter.  The coin was marketed as solo only and pools exist.  Now that isn't the entire issue.  And it was an issue that could have been addressed and even overcome.  The issue is the campaign that was launched to deny the fact and attack those that brought the issue to light.  When you have the main people behind a coin denying the truth, lying, and using any means they can to suppress it then that tells you something about those people.  It's sleazy and I've seen it done by these same people before.  They'll get whatever btc they can out of the people that fall for their scheme and when they can't get anymore btc they move on.  The architect of this is well known and has done the same thing before with numerous coins.  Someone needs to stand up and call these guys out.  If that has to be me then so be it.  But I'll be damned if I'm going to just sit back and watch this crap go on without saying anything.  I don't care if it costs me financially.  I'll make that loss up by going to sleep at night knowing that I still have my integrity.

Also, a true solo only coin would make it much more difficult for these large farms to come in and rape the coin. 
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February 05, 2015, 02:23:03 AM
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The pool only has a few members in it. Owned by who? I'm going to guess that everyone in the pool is owned by the same person.  (Because he can't steal from himself) Therefore the coin still remains deeply decentralized because pools like this could pop up everywhere! Meaning that only individual mining farms would be apart of the pool.  (By the way creating your own pool would be entirely realistic for someone who owned a bitcoin farm)

Doesn't matter.  The coin was marketed as solo only and pools exist.  Now that isn't the entire issue.  And it was an issue that could have been addressed and even overcome.  The issue is the campaign that was launched to deny the fact and attack those that brought the issue to light.  When you have the main people behind a coin denying the truth, lying, and using any means they can to suppress it then that tells you something about those people.  It's sleazy and I've seen it done by these same people before.  They'll get whatever btc they can out of the people that fall for their scheme and when they can't get anymore btc they move on.  The architect of this is well known and has done the same thing before with numerous coins.  Someone needs to stand up and call these guys out.  If that has to be me then so be it.  But I'll be damned if I'm going to just sit back and watch this crap go on without saying anything.  I don't care if it costs me financially.  I'll make that loss up by going to sleep at night knowing that I still have my integrity.

Also, a true solo only coin would make it much more difficult for these large farms to come in and rape the coin. 

The coin was marked as SOLO. Meaning 1, or 1 PERSON!
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February 05, 2015, 02:33:28 AM
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The pool only has a few members in it. Owned by who? I'm going to guess that everyone in the pool is owned by the same person.  (Because he can't steal from himself) Therefore the coin still remains deeply decentralized because pools like this could pop up everywhere! Meaning that only individual mining farms would be apart of the pool.  (By the way creating your own pool would be entirely realistic for someone who owned a bitcoin farm)

Doesn't matter.  The coin was marketed as solo only and pools exist.  Now that isn't the entire issue.  And it was an issue that could have been addressed and even overcome.  The issue is the campaign that was launched to deny the fact and attack those that brought the issue to light.  When you have the main people behind a coin denying the truth, lying, and using any means they can to suppress it then that tells you something about those people.  It's sleazy and I've seen it done by these same people before.  They'll get whatever btc they can out of the people that fall for their scheme and when they can't get anymore btc they move on.  The architect of this is well known and has done the same thing before with numerous coins.  Someone needs to stand up and call these guys out.  If that has to be me then so be it.  But I'll be damned if I'm going to just sit back and watch this crap go on without saying anything.  I don't care if it costs me financially.  I'll make that loss up by going to sleep at night knowing that I still have my integrity.

Also, a true solo only coin would make it much more difficult for these large farms to come in and rape the coin.

Spreadnodes, I think you've just got some serious beef with MyFarm, and you're using whatever you can to attack him. I don't know if he's this horrible person you say - but constantly bitching about the pool thing is simply being a pedantic cunt.

Spreadcoin has the whitepaper, detailing exactly how it deters pools. Obviously, it cannot stop independent machines from hashing to one daemon and splitting the profit - but it achieves what it meant to, that is, discouraging the infestation of pools on a large scale like other coins.

EDIT: I gotta say, though - MyFarm is just a little too eagerly invested in the coin, to me.
I trust the fact more than so-called whitepaper.
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Spreadnodes, I think you've just got some serious beef with MyFarm, and you're using whatever you can to attack him. I don't know if he's this horrible person you say - but constantly bitching about the pool thing is simply being a pedantic cunt.

Spreadcoin has the whitepaper, detailing exactly how it deters pools. Obviously, it cannot stop independent machines from hashing to one daemon and splitting the profit - but it achieves what it meant to, that is, discouraging the infestation of pools on a large scale like other coins.

EDIT: I gotta say, though - MyFarm is just a little too eagerly invested in the coin, to me.
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February 05, 2015, 02:36:11 AM
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Also, a true solo only coin would make it much more difficult for these large farms to come in and rape the coin. 

So what you want is not to get rid of pools, but of large farms. In my opinion, this is bad, really bad. Borderline communist even. In capitalism, you try to avoid cartels and monopolies, not to forcefully redistribute riches in a "fair" way. In this context, pools are cartels that concentrate the hash power they do not own and put the whole market at risk! As with cartels, they do not control the money itself, but they have the power to decide who gets it. That's the bad thing about pools, if you believe in free markets, of course!

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February 05, 2015, 02:37:42 AM
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I'm thinking of buying the optimized miner, making it public, and relaunching this coin with the miner available for everyone at launch.

The first order of business is making sure that it is solo only.  And as far as I am concerned that should have been priority number one before myfarm got here and pushed his ponzinodes on everyone.  I believe that a solo only coin is a winner.  Something that anyone can mine and everyone has an equal chance to get coins.  That was what I thought this coin was but then that changed and it got hijacked and turned into just another pump and dump by mrfarm after he bought up a huge percentage of available spreadcoin and then got the optimized miner for him and his buddies.  His obvious pump and dump scheme was the last straw.

Anyone that wants to get involved and contribute let me know.  We can get together on skype or pm me and work out details.  The original concept of this coin was great.  Unfortunately that greatness got overtaken by greed.

Lets make a real cryptocurrency for everyone where everyone is equal.  Well at least as equal as can be.  Nothing is ever going to be perfect but we can try.  

Let me know.

Thanks

  



I hereby dub thee, "Aequitas Coin". Smiley

Tip : Pools will become obsolete if/when the coin becomes the pool. Wink

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February 05, 2015, 02:41:01 AM
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The pool only has a few members in it. Owned by who? I'm going to guess that everyone in the pool is owned by the same person.  (Because he can't steal from himself) Therefore the coin still remains deeply decentralized because pools like this could pop up everywhere! Meaning that only individual mining farms would be apart of the pool.  (By the way creating your own pool would be entirely realistic for someone who owned a bitcoin farm)

Doesn't matter.  The coin was marketed as solo only and pools exist.  Now that isn't the entire issue.  And it was an issue that could have been addressed and even overcome.  The issue is the campaign that was launched to deny the fact and attack those that brought the issue to light.  When you have the main people behind a coin denying the truth, lying, and using any means they can to suppress it then that tells you something about those people.  It's sleazy and I've seen it done by these same people before.  They'll get whatever btc they can out of the people that fall for their scheme and when they can't get anymore btc they move on.  The architect of this is well known and has done the same thing before with numerous coins.  Someone needs to stand up and call these guys out.  If that has to be me then so be it.  But I'll be damned if I'm going to just sit back and watch this crap go on without saying anything.  I don't care if it costs me financially.  I'll make that loss up by going to sleep at night knowing that I still have my integrity.

Also, a true solo only coin would make it much more difficult for these large farms to come in and rape the coin.

Spreadnodes, I think you've just got some serious beef with MyFarm, and you're using whatever you can to attack him. I don't know if he's this horrible person you say - but constantly bitching about the pool thing is simply being a pedantic cunt.

Spreadcoin has the whitepaper, detailing exactly how it deters pools. Obviously, it cannot stop independent machines from hashing to one daemon and splitting the profit - but it achieves what it meant to, that is, discouraging the infestation of pools on a large scale like other coins.

EDIT: I gotta say, though - MyFarm is just a little too eagerly invested in the coin, to me.
I trust the fact more than so-called whitepaper.

that's a problem, because the so called "fact" does not contradict the white paper nor the purpose of the coin. This is what people do not get! This is not a "communist" coin with equal share for everyone. This is a free market coin with a system to avoid cartels. If you read the white paper, you'd see that the system does allow for small pools if, and only if, everyone trusts everyone.

So, you can believe in the facts AND in the white-paper, since they do not contradict each other!

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February 05, 2015, 02:42:18 AM
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I'm thinking of buying the optimized miner, making it public, and relaunching this coin with the miner available for everyone at launch.

The first order of business is making sure that it is solo only.  And as far as I am concerned that should have been priority number one before myfarm got here and pushed his ponzinodes on everyone.  I believe that a solo only coin is a winner.  Something that anyone can mine and everyone has an equal chance to get coins.  That was what I thought this coin was but then that changed and it got hijacked and turned into just another pump and dump by mrfarm after he bought up a huge percentage of available spreadcoin and then got the optimized miner for him and his buddies.  His obvious pump and dump scheme was the last straw.

Anyone that wants to get involved and contribute let me know.  We can get together on skype or pm me and work out details.  The original concept of this coin was great.  Unfortunately that greatness got overtaken by greed.

Lets make a real cryptocurrency for everyone where everyone is equal.  Well at least as equal as can be.  Nothing is ever going to be perfect but we can try.  

Let me know.

Thanks

  



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Tip : Pools will become obsolete if/when the coin becomes the pool. Wink

"Communist Coin" might be a better name! But hey, that's your coin, call it whatever you want!

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February 05, 2015, 02:49:14 AM
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The pool only has a few members in it. Owned by who? I'm going to guess that everyone in the pool is owned by the same person.  (Because he can't steal from himself) Therefore the coin still remains deeply decentralized because pools like this could pop up everywhere! Meaning that only individual mining farms would be apart of the pool.  (By the way creating your own pool would be entirely realistic for someone who owned a bitcoin farm)

Doesn't matter.  The coin was marketed as solo only and pools exist.  Now that isn't the entire issue.  And it was an issue that could have been addressed and even overcome.  The issue is the campaign that was launched to deny the fact and attack those that brought the issue to light.  When you have the main people behind a coin denying the truth, lying, and using any means they can to suppress it then that tells you something about those people.  It's sleazy and I've seen it done by these same people before.  They'll get whatever btc they can out of the people that fall for their scheme and when they can't get anymore btc they move on.  The architect of this is well known and has done the same thing before with numerous coins.  Someone needs to stand up and call these guys out.  If that has to be me then so be it.  But I'll be damned if I'm going to just sit back and watch this crap go on without saying anything.  I don't care if it costs me financially.  I'll make that loss up by going to sleep at night knowing that I still have my integrity.

Also, a true solo only coin would make it much more difficult for these large farms to come in and rape the coin. 

Spreadnodes, I think you've just got some serious beef with MyFarm, and you're using whatever you can to attack him. I don't know if he's this horrible person you say - but constantly bitching about the pool thing is simply being a pedantic cunt.

Spreadcoin has the whitepaper, detailing exactly how it deters pools. Obviously, it cannot stop independent machines from hashing to one daemon and splitting the profit - but it achieves what it meant to, that is, discouraging the infestation of pools on a large scale like other coins.

Wolf0, you have my respect and I have no problem with you so I'll just say this.  I don't know who mrfarm is.  He could be a great guy in real life.  He could have a family and children, be a wonderful father, a person that cares about other people.    My beef is with the way they game the system and profit at the expense of the weaker minded and naive people that fall for their shenanigans.  If you read my last post I even mentioned that the pool issue was something that could be overcome.  The issue is the scorched earth policy that they use along with their followers to attack anyone that questions what they want to appear to be the truth.  It's sleazy and it doesn't have to be that way.  If you go back and read the thread which I don't expect you to do, you will see that these concerns were first raised in a very cordial and civil matter.  Then the FUD FUD FUD! campaign started.  

Now I wasn't the one posting in big red letters, and I wasn't the one calling you names.  I started out trying to bring some things to light and was kicked to the curb, my questions and concerns deemed irrelevant.  And yes spreadcoin is pool resistant not pool proof.  But give it some time and someone will figure out a way to make it completely pool friendly.  That's expected.  Any code can be modified and solutions found to circumvent methods.  But these guys just brushed everything off and adamantly proclaimed that no pools existed when it was obvious they did.  Where I come from that's called lying.  And where I come from liars are the ones on the shit list.  I'm done talking about myfarm.  They are going to do what they are going to do.  But I will not hesitate to call them out if I see something shady going on.  There is too much of that in cryptocurrency.

One thing I am going to do is take exception to you calling me a pedantic cunt.  I don't think I am.  If you do well that's your choice.  For the record,  you're contributions to cryptocurrency far surpass those of myfarm and 90% of everyone else involved in this fun yet sometimes challenging and aggravating endeavor we've all decided to undertake when we decided to get involved in this technology.  

Anyway, I wish you the best and hope we can work together in the future.  When I say work together I mean on a project not related to forking spreadcoin or anything spreadx11.  Myself and others have some interest in some other endeavors that will require your expertise.  I can't say more right now so I'll leave it at that for the moment.



  





      
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February 05, 2015, 03:01:15 AM
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Also, a true solo only coin would make it much more difficult for these large farms to come in and rape the coin. 

So what you want is not to get rid of pools, but of large farms. In my opinion, this is bad, really bad. Borderline communist even. In capitalism, you try to avoid cartels and monopolies, not to forcefully redistribute riches in a "fair" way. In this context, pools are cartels that concentrate the hash power they do not own and put the whole market at risk! As with cartels, they do not control the money itself, but they have the power to decide who gets it. That's the bad thing about pools, if you believe in free markets, of course!

You must be lost.  I want a true solo only coin that can't be mined on pools.  There is no way that you can keep large farms from mining coins with their hardware.  But a true solo coin would make it so they couldn't point all their hash at one place.  

This is what you guys do, deflect and discredit.  You are now trying to change the narrative and say that I'm not trying to get rid of pools but large farms.  You then follow up with your propaganda and insert communism into the mix.  Anything that you can do to change the narrative and and redirect the argument to discredit me.  Go ahead and keep attacking me I don't care.  The more you attack the more you reveal yourself.          
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February 05, 2015, 03:03:10 AM
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The pool only has a few members in it. Owned by who? I'm going to guess that everyone in the pool is owned by the same person.  (Because he can't steal from himself) Therefore the coin still remains deeply decentralized because pools like this could pop up everywhere! Meaning that only individual mining farms would be apart of the pool.  (By the way creating your own pool would be entirely realistic for someone who owned a bitcoin farm)

Doesn't matter.  The coin was marketed as solo only and pools exist.  Now that isn't the entire issue.  And it was an issue that could have been addressed and even overcome.  The issue is the campaign that was launched to deny the fact and attack those that brought the issue to light.  When you have the main people behind a coin denying the truth, lying, and using any means they can to suppress it then that tells you something about those people.  It's sleazy and I've seen it done by these same people before.  They'll get whatever btc they can out of the people that fall for their scheme and when they can't get anymore btc they move on.  The architect of this is well known and has done the same thing before with numerous coins.  Someone needs to stand up and call these guys out.  If that has to be me then so be it.  But I'll be damned if I'm going to just sit back and watch this crap go on without saying anything.  I don't care if it costs me financially.  I'll make that loss up by going to sleep at night knowing that I still have my integrity.

Also, a true solo only coin would make it much more difficult for these large farms to come in and rape the coin.

Spreadnodes, I think you've just got some serious beef with MyFarm, and you're using whatever you can to attack him. I don't know if he's this horrible person you say - but constantly bitching about the pool thing is simply being a pedantic cunt.

Spreadcoin has the whitepaper, detailing exactly how it deters pools. Obviously, it cannot stop independent machines from hashing to one daemon and splitting the profit - but it achieves what it meant to, that is, discouraging the infestation of pools on a large scale like other coins.

Wolf0, you have my respect and I have no problem with you so I'll just say this.  I don't know who mrfarm is.  He could be a great guy in real life.  He could have a family and children, be a wonderful father, a person that cares about other people.    My beef is with the way they game the system and profit at the expense of the weaker minded and naive people that fall for their shenanigans.  If you read my last post I even mentioned that the pool issue was something that could be overcome.  The issue is the scorched earth policy that they use along with their followers to attack anyone that questions what they want to appear to be the truth.  It's sleazy and it doesn't have to be that way.  If you go back and read the thread which I don't expect you to do, you will see that these concerns were first raised in a very cordial and civil matter.  Then the FUD FUD FUD! campaign started.  

Now I wasn't the one posting in big red letters, and I wasn't the one calling you names.  I started out trying to bring some things to light and was kicked to the curb, my questions and concerns deemed irrelevant.  And yes spreadcoin is pool resistant not pool proof.  But give it some time and someone will figure out a way to make it completely pool friendly.  That's expected.  Any code can be modified and solutions found to circumvent methods.  But these guys just brushed everything off and adamantly proclaimed that no pools existed when it was obvious they did.  Where I come from that's called lying.  And where I come from liars are the ones on the shit list.  I'm done talking about myfarm.  They are going to do what they are going to do.  But I will not hesitate to call them out if I see something shady going on.  There is too much of that in cryptocurrency.

One thing I am going to do is take exception to you calling me a pedantic cunt.  I don't think I am.  If you do well that's your choice.  For the record,  you're contributions to cryptocurrency far surpass those of myfarm and 90% of everyone else involved in this fun yet sometimes challenging and aggravating endeavor we've all decided to undertake when we decided to get involved in this technology.  

Anyway, I wish you the best and hope we can work together in the future.  When I say work together I mean on a project not related to forking spreadcoin or anything spreadx11.  Myself and others have some interest in some other endeavors that will require your expertise.  I can't say more right now so I'll leave it at that for the moment.



  





      

Mate, I'm not going to use the c word because I don't, but I sure can relate to why wolf0 did (even though he's apologised)!

You are sooooooooo pedantic! You are going on and on and on. It's worse than having a three year old asking for lollies at the supermarket checkout while you're tying to do ten other things at the same time.

WE GET IT RIGHT! You don't like MyFarm. You don't like how this has all played out so far. You think they're lying. You think it's a P&D. WE'VE HEARD IT AND WE'VE HEARD IT LOUD AND CLEAR

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But I will not hesitate to call them out if I see something shady going on.  There is too much of that in cryptocurrency.

You've already done it you fool! You've slung more mud and pedalled more innuendo plus direct accusations in these past few pages than anyone.

GIVE IT A REST!

GO AWAY!

LEAVE EVERYONE ALONE!

Get a life for goodness sake and go create your own coin where you can control how it plays out. Leave the Spread people and Spreadcoin to the people who are willing to give it a go (with all the risks that involves; this is cryptoland, do you really think you're so much more knowledgeable than other people on here that you have to just bang on about this stuff ad nauseum forever!!!???).

JUST LEAVE AND GO DO SOMETHING ELSE!



(FFS every time I click post you've posted yet again while I'm typing....unbelievable!)

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February 05, 2015, 03:04:36 AM
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The best alternative would be the create a coin that exists only in a pool. The only way to mine it is to sign up for the pool itself. That is the only full proof way to keep people from creating pools, but this also destroys decentralization. 
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February 05, 2015, 03:07:44 AM
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I'm thinking of buying the optimized miner, making it public, and relaunching this coin with the miner available for everyone at launch.

The first order of business is making sure that it is solo only.  And as far as I am concerned that should have been priority number one before myfarm got here and pushed his ponzinodes on everyone.  I believe that a solo only coin is a winner.  Something that anyone can mine and everyone has an equal chance to get coins.  That was what I thought this coin was but then that changed and it got hijacked and turned into just another pump and dump by mrfarm after he bought up a huge percentage of available spreadcoin and then got the optimized miner for him and his buddies.  His obvious pump and dump scheme was the last straw.

Anyone that wants to get involved and contribute let me know.  We can get together on skype or pm me and work out details.  The original concept of this coin was great.  Unfortunately that greatness got overtaken by greed.

Lets make a real cryptocurrency for everyone where everyone is equal.  Well at least as equal as can be.  Nothing is ever going to be perfect but we can try.  

Let me know.

Thanks

  



I hereby dub thee, "Aequitas Coin". Smiley

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