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701  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Buy low sell high? on: August 30, 2018, 01:53:53 PM
at the moment I prefer an exchange that has a large volume like binance etc. most people use a strategy to buy low prices and sell at high prices, but many people lose because of the panic brand and they will lose a lot of money. trading well don't panic
Many people are frightened of panic because there are people who go against the principle that they will buy high sell low. These are whales, looking in the short term looking like they are going in the opposite direction but actually they still apply "buy low sell high" when they hold in large numbers coins.
buy low sell high is the basic principle of trading, but it's not easy to implement it, because we don't know the situation when the prices really low or really high. and I think to buy low sell high is suitable for long-term because short-term sometimes we panic buying on the high price.
702  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What coins are worth buying NOW on: August 30, 2018, 10:39:58 AM
ETH is at a good price to pick some up, it's ready to rebound back.  Another coin I'd look at is BAT since it's getting listed on Coinbase soon, that will bring instant volume and jump in price.

yeah I think ETH is really worth to buy now, the price is very cheap, and has not rebound after a long decline, it may be good news about Yahoo finance integrates ETH and maybe it can make eth price increase.
703  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin 6800 $, in a month $ 10,000, and after two $ 15,000. on: August 29, 2018, 05:34:48 PM
I think bitcoin in phase testing to change the trend , I mean that bitcoin still on down trend and its already correction or has reversed from the bottom in area &5.9k and now it has reached $7k. I think if in september bitcoin can stable on $8k area it was changing the trend to going up.

well, the end of September is the result of ETF, I don't know if it will affect the market or not, but the rejection of the first stages of ETF, bitcoin price even increased, I hope ETF does not make prices fall at the end of September if the result is rejected. But if the results are positive, it is possible bitcoin will touch $10000.
704  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Lila liku trader cryptocurrency! on: August 28, 2018, 11:48:43 AM
tradingnya sudah bagus untuk banyak, cuman sayangnya kenapa bisa terjerumus kedalam hyip,  saya yakin kalau cuma fokus trading saja mungkin bisa jadi lebih banyak. tapi ya namanya juga baru pertama kali tau, karena saya juga dulu korban mantan hyip. tapi beruntung setelah uang ludes banyak oleh hyip saya bisa bangkit kembali dan bisa mendapatkan banyak keuntungan dari trading dan bounty sampai saat ini. untungnya juga dulu gratisan dan ga bermodal, kalau bermodal mungkin saya akan frustasi.
705  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: ETF Proshares Ditolak on: August 27, 2018, 03:10:33 PM
karena tidak ada alasan penolakan yang jelas,mukin itu bertujuan memanipulasi harga bitkoin!
penolakan sudah jelas beredar informasinya dan sangat jelas, karena belum memenuhi ketentuan exchange yang berlaku, dan ini bukan manipulasi harga, logika aja bro kalau memang tidak memenuhi syarat ya tidak harus men judge sedikit2 manipulasi haha
dari awal penolakan malah bitcoin mengalami kenaikan ya, tapi ini baru tahap awal belum dipastikan apakah benar manipulasi atau tidak, kita lihat saja nanti pas finalnya september, kalau ditolak kemudian harga bitcoin jatuh ya bisa kita simpulkan.
706  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin back to $7000 today? on: August 23, 2018, 04:00:38 PM
Price now are still below 7000 dollars but I expect the price of the bitcoin in the end of the month become 10k dollars and that is really possible. But i that happen even bitcoin up again to 7000 dollars is very okay.

I am sure if ETF approved bitcoin price can be increased up to $10k, but the schedule of the first ETF by Proshares already rejected, but I hope later on 30 September ETF is approved.
because currently there is no good news which could make bitcoin price increase besides ETF approved.
707  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price prediction 2018 on: August 23, 2018, 03:23:27 PM
in the face of the current bitcoin market movements, in my opinion my prediction of bitcoin prices is as low as $ 5500 and the highest price will not be more than $ 10000, and bitcoin prices can rise high in early 2019

ETF rejection will make price down, maybe it will touch $5500 or below, but I hope not. I was also pessimistic this year bitcoin will rise above $10k, bitcoin will increase the height between 2020 or the next halving.
708  Economy / Speculation / Re: How does SEC ETF rejection affect the future of Bitcoin. on: August 23, 2018, 02:51:22 PM
So it's finally here. SEC rejects most of the ETF applications. So what do you advise I do. Keep holding or sell off? I'm in a dilemma at the moment

I think ETF will only make people panic selling, although ETF rejection I remain optimistic to hold bitcoin, although in my opinion the rejection that would make the price will come down because will many of the lay people panic selling.
709  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Will ICO die in 2018? on: August 23, 2018, 02:14:47 PM
Although ICO does have a lot of fraud, I don't think ICO will die. Because ICO is the backbone of the current market, without ICO, the development of the entire market will be constrained. Without development, it will definitely go backwards. This is not what we want to see. At the same time, we also hope that ICO will be supervised and the damn liar will be sanctioned.

I saw 2018 ico already does not guarantee will benefit, as far as I can see though ICO achieved success, but the prices are far below the price of ICO. I agree if ico is must be supervised because ico is too much fraud.
710  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is it better to buy during ICO or Market? on: August 23, 2018, 01:01:36 PM
I noticed that many investors were afraid to buy during ICO because their reason they are cheaper can be bought on market. Especially when they found out  that a large percentage is allotted in the bounty program. Many Bounty Hunters  immediately selling token/coin even lower than the ICO price.

#Datarius



Ofcouse during ICO especially when you purchase on their phase 1 of their token sale you will get around 50% bonus of token you will get and then when the get it listed on the exchange sell it then buy on the dipped you really believe on that coin.

as i know so far, they did a distribution to all investors first before they did a distribution to bounty hunters. but it depends on the project itself. if they did it like that, the investors no need to afraid to buy during the ICO.

Yeah, you are right, all depending on the project and team because nowadays many ICO achieved the success but when listing on the market the price is bad. so for the moment, it is better to buy when the token listing on the big market.
711  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is worth buying coins under $1? on: August 23, 2018, 02:54:08 AM
What's your opinion on buying new emerging coins that are not yet on top and cost less than 1 dollar?
How do you decide whether they have potential to grow or not?

If you have spare money to buy this cheaper coins or token,for sure theres a chance to gain enough or even bigger in future,but together with this is a risk of losing to,so be ready on both occasions to gain or loss

I have experience when buying mue coin, that time the price just under 100 satoshi. My tips to convince these coins will increase I saw from their activeness in social media with a promising prospect, also I saw a very active team. I have waited over 6 months until eventually the coin increase above 3k satoshi.
712  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Buy This Dip or Wait ? on: August 22, 2018, 11:22:53 AM
I guess it should be your decision, but whatever you do, do not regret. It was the right one Wink

Oh, if the guy decides to sell his cryptocurrencies, the decision will be wrong. As for the purchase of the cryptos, I do not think that you should wait for another market fall. Buy the tokens now - they are extremely cheap.

thats right, the current price is very cheap because the price of crypto declines up to 80%, and if you see bitcoin price tend to be stable I think this is great for buying crypto now, let alone the next few months likely bitcoin will back to rise.
713  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [SHARE] Mengumpulkan BTC Disaat Market Merah, Fakta atau HOAX ??? on: August 21, 2018, 06:25:32 AM
Sebenernya sangat bagus sekali disaat sedang trurun seperti ini untuk mengumpulkan banyak btc karena kemungkinan pasti akan naik lagi, bisa dengan cara gratisan atau trading, namun butuh analisa yang akurat untuk trading, mungkin bagi para mastah udah bisa analisa dengan tepat jadi momen ini bisa dijadikan kesempatan yang baik
iya gan harga skrang saya rasa harga sudah termurah tpi entah bakal turun lgi atau enggak ini tkutnya beli skrang bakal ada penurunan lgi gtu gan tpi lebih baik cba psang jaring lgi di bawah sih menurut saya

Tapi gan akhir2 ini agak susah sih ngejaring bitcoin diharga murah, belum stabil bener. Kemarin saya deposit dan beli bitcoin di saat harga turun malah setelah beli yang terjadi turun lagi, terpaksa deh harus di hold lama. Untuk sekarang cocok beli bitcoin dengan syarat harus simpan dengan waktu lama.

usahakan kalau modal tidak banyak jaringnya itu setengah2, jadi kalau agan udah beli, terus harga turun nah nanti dibawah itu agan beli lagi untuk backup nya.
klo beli bitcoin untuk waktu lama, lebih baik nunggu harga jatuh lebih dibawah $5k, karena menurut saya untuk saat ini bagusnya main cepet, karena melihat pergerakan bitcoin cukup lumayan dengan range kenaikan $100-$300.
714  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [SHARE]FOMO = Whales Food, Benarkah? on: August 20, 2018, 06:02:42 PM
Mungkin saja gan itu terjadi. Karena bisnis apapun itu pemilik modal besarlah yang bisa menguasai pasar. Apalagi pada dunia trading itu sangat mungkin terjadi

bingung dengan istilah whales, apakah untuk orang yang mempunyai minimal 5% total bitcoin atau orang yang mampu tiap hari trading setidaknya 1 btc, saya hanya spekulan kecil, tapi sering lihat obrolan dari tele gak gitu terpengaruh, malah kesannya cukong yang fomo jadinya karena dikit2 tebar fud untuk jaring di bawah harga.

menurut saya whales tidak perorangan, tapi menurut saya mereka berkelompok, yang setidaknya mereka menguasai 30-50% pasar pemegang sejumlah besar bitcoin.
tapi kalau whales di indodax mungkin 100 btc sudah bisa dikatakan whales Cheesy
715  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: August 20, 2018, 02:25:08 PM
lihat lihat di google kemaren ketemu prediksi suatu grop yang menyamakan bitcoin di 2014 dengan 2018 itu sama pergerakan nya. jadi saya pikir bitcoin terus down trend samapai akhir agustus nanti semoga saja Cheesy

ah sekarang gw udah gak percaya sama prediksi-prediksi harga, semuanya salah dan kalaupun benar pun cuman kebetulan belaka.


biar kata yang ngomong mcaffe atau siapapun hasilnya sama. prediksi mbah clif high aja meleset semua  Roll Eyes
hahaha bener banget gan dari dulu pun kebanyakan prediksi yang di buat untuk pergerakan bitcoin semua nya salah dan kalau pun bener hanya hoki saja,bahkan sekarang pun banyak yang memperkirakan akhir tahun 2018 akan seperti 2017 dan ane rasa sulit sih melihat dari segi pergerakan sekarang,dan ane melihat prediksi yang ada saat ini rasa nya hanya bualan belaka.
Tentu saja gan, semua prediksi yang dibahas disini hanya sebatas prediksi doang, bisa jadi benar dan bisa jadi juga salah.
Dan untuk seperti di akhir tahun 2017 kemarin sih ane rasa sulit bisa tercapai lagi gan.
saya pikir sangat mungkin harga mencapai seperti akhir tahun 2017, tapi sayangnya itu tidak akan dicapai ditahun ini atau ditahun depan, kemungkinan besar halving yg akan datang itu sangat mungkin harga bitcoin meningkat lebih dari akhir tahun 2017. saat ini harga btc stabil itu sudah bagus, mudah2an september ada pergerakan ke 7k-10k , tinggal nunggu news bagus ETF saja.
716  Economy / Speculation / Re: India just BANNED Bitcoin? Will BTC now crash? on: August 16, 2018, 12:05:09 PM
India just BANNED Bitcoin? Will BTC now crash?

Why? I though India accepting bitcoin but I am wrong. This is not a good news for all of us. Will in my opinion, it will not affect bitcoin or it could not be a reason to crash. Bitcoin has many supporter or I mean they will not let bitcoin to crash. Many people is now relying to cryptocurrency and I think they will proctect it until the end.

Besides India, Arab has also currently banned bitcoin. but I think this thing will not make prices crash. even my country also prohibits the use of bitcoin, but have no effect on the price. unless one of the country's enormous influence on bitcoin. whereas currently more countries supporting bitcoin compared banned bitcoin.
717  Economy / Economics / Re: Why people are still buying BTC? on: August 16, 2018, 11:16:01 AM
People buy bitcoin for two reasons - see this as an opportunity to earn and the opportunity to save capital in such an unstable and controlled financial system.
because they need it. we will not buy anything if we don't need it. so they buy bitcoin for an important reason. they might buy bitcoin to invest, or it could be to develop a project. that's why people always buy bitcoin.
Bitcoin price factors for buying  are both macro and micro environmental, such as global changes in regulation or world events.For example, the sanctions placed on Turkey recently affected the price of the Lira and drove people to purchase Bitcoin, which could have impacted the price of Bitcoin if Turkey had a larger economy
the simple is people believe in the currency of bitcoin, and also they believe could benefit greatly from buying bitcoin because of bitcoin is one of the classy assets. and the new one is looking forward to the emergence of Bitcoin ETF, where this news would raise the confidence of people to buy bitcoin.
718  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: is this excellent strategy to trade on: August 16, 2018, 10:22:57 AM
to get bitcoin quickly by trading Bitcoin with altcoin and other cryptocurrency in the market and promoting it on social media to get many new investors and make the price go to the moon and after the price of altcoin and cryotocurrency is on the moon, can sell all assets in the market to buy cars Lamborghini.

Is this a good strategy?
I got this strategy from my friend



If you're an influencer, that a strategy is very good because those people will surely be intrigued by your promotion. but for now this is all it is not a guarantee because I see a lot of ico with the promotion in social media and get a lot of investors, but when the market the price is very cheap.
719  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why we will see $50k Bitcoin end of year on: August 16, 2018, 09:42:44 AM
The last time the CBOE launched a Bitcoin financial tool, futures, we saw $20k. Recently rising Bitcoin dominance shows people betting on the latest CBOE tool, ETF, being approved.

Bitcoin dominance is heading towards fifty percent by marketcap. What does this mean for the price and how should traders and investors view it? Marketcap is by far not the best metric to read dominance, but that doesn’t mean it can’t add value to your trading.

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Although ETF approved I don't think the end of the year would reach $50k it's too high, and I think it will happen in the subsequent halving, where when halving bitcoin price always rises drastically.
720  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trader or Gamblers. on: August 16, 2018, 04:04:50 AM
Gambling is a sin and you shouldn't do that. Even though you earn something from it, that's just not a good idea to earn money. There is lot of ways to earn money, but please don't gamble it just make you worse. I'd recommend trading even though you are keep losing your money, but hey at least you do something rather than rely on your luck.
I don't think that gambling is a sin and we shouldn't do it. I mean having affairs is also considered as sin and Gods also used to have more than one wife so they were also committing sins. But it's upon the person that is doing it that whether he considers gambling as a sin or not, so it doesn't matter what you think.
gambling is a sin and that depends on the conviction. I think trading and gambling not much different, especially if trading without knowledge is the same as gambling all depends on luck.
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