ETH market cap has really deflated while ICN holds steady.
ICN could be Ethereum's killer app that brings in more demand for ETH.
Maybe so. Traders knew ETH is a major token and will soon rise. 0.008 could be the bottom price. If ICN platform will work by the end of 2016, its going to make ETH rise again. Why? You think people will buy ethereum because Iconomi have launched their platform? |
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Hi there,
Sure I am new here but not ignorant.
If the nagging negative people here want the ICN to go up (or even to the moon), then why dont you STOP complaining here.
For something to go up we need a positive vibe.
Who would want to buy ICN when you guys are here just talking it down.
So quit the BS and think positive and post positive you will see it will pay off..............
Actually the "nagging negative people" you refer to have buy orders, and want to shake off weak hands into their buy orders. Those are the friendly fudders. The other part are just crypto kids that want 5X return and are crying around like little girls about ICN not being listed on polo. Or just trolls. We have quite a few of them around here. In any case, no serious investors, especially not the traditional ones will pay too much attention to the BS around here. are you buying some more ?  haha, no I wish I'd have more to buy. I have my fair share, though. I guess I was a bit moody last week |
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Hi there,
Sure I am new here but not ignorant.
If the nagging negative people here want the ICN to go up (or even to the moon), then why dont you STOP complaining here.
For something to go up we need a positive vibe.
Who would want to buy ICN when you guys are here just talking it down.
So quit the BS and think positive and post positive you will see it will pay off..............
Actually the "nagging negative people" you refer to have buy orders, and want to shake off weak hands into their buy orders. Those are the friendly fudders. The other part are just crypto kids that want 5X return and are crying around like little girls about ICN not being listed on polo. Or just trolls. We have quite a few of them around here. In any case, no serious investors, especially not the traditional ones will pay too much attention to the BS around here. |
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Anyone checking how ICO funds are being burned? Aren't we supposed to get monthly spending reports? Thailand is pretty cheap, it's certainly no Bahamas, just cheap sex tourism and ladyboys. They have a vacation with over a million money. It seems like there is no transparency for that.  Everyone needs a rest and there is no proof that they move this money for personal use. Remember these guys are working and have some money to throw around Do you get holiday at work? Do you take your holiday and spend the money you earn on holidays abroad? What is the difference between that and this picture above? Go troll somewhere else fools.. Also, like it was written, he is not part of Iconomi but an external, independent PR adviser. Looking at the success Iconomi had during the ICO and after, I'd say he is pretty good at what he does. |
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Anyone checking how ICO funds are being burned? Aren't we supposed to get monthly spending reports? Thailand is pretty cheap, it's certainly no Bahamas, just cheap sex tourism and ladyboys. They have a vacation with over a million money. It seems like there is no transparency for that. Everyone needs a rest and there is no proof that they move this money for personal use. Remember these guys are working and have some money to throw around It is quite easy to track the core team share. They will move their share out of Iconomi address and will publish the new address. Besides, if you don't trust them you shouldn't have invested in the first place. If you do, let them do their work. |
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How does this coin work? I mean, it doesnt have wallet? How are dividends expected to be paid? Or is it everything going through ethereum wallet? Can only buy in liqui? And then... where do i withdrawal if no wallet?
Consider this my good deed for the day. ICONOMI is an ether based token. As such, you can use an ETH wallet such as myetherwallet.com to withdraw your ICN If you own the private keys to your ETH wallet, you'll get your dividends there. You can also purchase ICN on kraken.com Dividends are paid in ETH. There, I have been nice for today.  I think someone hacked DeadBirdzz account |
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I wonder why Iconomi team haven't invested in this project if they truly believe that they can create profit and pay it as dividends?
Maybe it's because they are not sure themselves about the success of their project?
My point, this thing is a high risk investment and it'll work well as expected and promised and hoped or it just fails.
I think people firstly entered in this project thinking that they'll sit back and the team will deliver them dividends just like that in the movies(or in crypto lol), they never knew that Iconomi team wants to depend on people using their service and the assets price going up in order to earn profit and then paying the share holders their dividends.
I wonder why Iconomi team haven't invested in this project if they truly believe that they can create profit and pay it as dividends? Which project? Don't tell me you mean Iconomi investing in Iconomi, that will put you strait to the top of the podium. they never knew that Iconomi team wants to depend on people using their service They would be only the dumbasses that haven't bothered to read the FAQ. I will bet 1 to 10 that you are one of them. Just trying to make people to lose their hopes and dump so I can pick them cheaper, didn't work or maybe just a bit . So not stupidity but FUD Anyway, good luck with your shopping spree. |
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If their legal team isn't busy working on listing ICN on exchanges, they'll sure be busy soon explaining why they promised multiple large exchanges during ICO.
Why the fuck would Iconomi legal team "working" on listing ICN on polo? I hope it won't be listed on polo anytime soon, just to see you and your moldy cry babies trolls friends keep whining about it. No Polo No Polo No Polo SUCk IT UP ps' No Polo SUCk it up again |
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@blockchainr So fuc*n bitch around at the poloniex trollbox and not here
What? You're mistaking me for someone else... I never hang out on Trollboxes, nor I have the time for it. This thread is the Iconomi trollbox for now I wonder if they will implement a trollbox on OFM platform, so we can move our trolling activity there haha, I hope they will finally announce that official communications will be conducted on twitter, slack and reddit only. I think few more guys on that podium will do the job. |
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@blockchainr So fuc*n bitch around at the poloniex trollbox and not here
What? You're mistaking me for someone else... I never hang out on Trollboxes, nor I have the time for it. Why don't we give it some time for the Fund Platform to even get started and then let's see if no other big exchange hops on the ICN train Because we are small little boys that want fast 5X on our allowance money. |
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Devs are not motivated to reach to Bitfinex, Poloniex, Bittrex to list ICN because they're afraid it will pump & dump too soon, before their 6-months lockup period is over.
Putting blame on exchanges is just way of forcing that same 6-month lockup period on us investors, in a quiet & indirect manner.
Also, that 6-month lockup period, is just the minimum they want to hold ICN off the large exchanges... they've got plenty of reserves ($10.5m to be exact), so they have no problem waiting, unless they're pressured with legal action by the community to stop hiding behind NDAs.
LOL. I think you are not familiar on what ICN really plans for the project. They are not afraid for the ICN price pump and dump because it is just happening right now, See for yourself on kraken. ICN devs are not focus on the exchange because that is not the essence of ICONOMI, But i will gave you a few heads up. They are planning to release their own trading platform so that the ICN investors can sell directly their ICN shares on the Iconomi site. Don't focus on exchanged, just wait for the dividends if you really want to enjoy the benefits of iconomi. I don't care about their own trading platform. I'm suggesting legal action against Cashila because they raised $10.5 million based mainly on their promise that ICN will be listed on top exchanges, but now that ICO is over, they're hiding behind NDAs, instead of being proactive to list ICN on top exchanges like they promised during ICO. LOL You are deferentially going to the podium! Wait, I have an idea for you - why don't you conduct an ICO to collect money for those legal actions of yours. Who knows, maybe Iconomi will participate in it. Given the amount of money raised by Cashila, attorneys can represent investors on contingency basis, in return of a certain percentage from the awarded amount. Cashila could be liable for more than just the raised $10.5m funds if you take into account the missed gains suffered by investors while Cashila Devs are indirectly forcing their 6-months lockup period on investors. Like I said - You are deferentially going to the podium for that one. I am afraid that this podium will need to be upgraded, it starts to be crowded there. Since I don't have anything better to do right now, I will engage. So what you are saying is that Iconomi team had ACTIVELY prevented polo from listing ICN, right? And that you, or your imaginary lawyer can prove it? They FALSELY ADVERTISED that "ICN to be listed on several major exchanges" on ICO site: https://ico.iconomi.net/faqBy not being proactive in listing ICN on SEVERAL MAJOR exchanges, they're proving that they lured investors during ICO period with false promises, hence legal action is required to recover damages for lost profits & loss of opportunity, suffered by investors.  hmm. you convinced me. You actually have a point. Expect several exchanges... and all that time I thought it is just one major exchange. I think you should go and start that ICO to fund your lawsuit. I am sure Iconomi will participate in it. |
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Devs are not motivated to reach to Bitfinex, Poloniex, Bittrex to list ICN because they're afraid it will pump & dump too soon, before their 6-months lockup period is over.
Putting blame on exchanges is just way of forcing that same 6-month lockup period on us investors, in a quiet & indirect manner.
Also, that 6-month lockup period, is just the minimum they want to hold ICN off the large exchanges... they've got plenty of reserves ($10.5m to be exact), so they have no problem waiting, unless they're pressured with legal action by the community to stop hiding behind NDAs.
LOL. I think you are not familiar on what ICN really plans for the project. They are not afraid for the ICN price pump and dump because it is just happening right now, See for yourself on kraken. ICN devs are not focus on the exchange because that is not the essence of ICONOMI, But i will gave you a few heads up. They are planning to release their own trading platform so that the ICN investors can sell directly their ICN shares on the Iconomi site. Don't focus on exchanged, just wait for the dividends if you really want to enjoy the benefits of iconomi. I don't care about their own trading platform. I'm suggesting legal action against Cashila because they raised $10.5 million based mainly on their promise that ICN will be listed on top exchanges, but now that ICO is over, they're hiding behind NDAs, instead of being proactive to list ICN on top exchanges like they promised during ICO. LOL You are deferentially going to the podium! Wait, I have an idea for you - why don't you conduct an ICO to collect money for those legal actions of yours. Who knows, maybe Iconomi will participate in it. Given the amount of money raised by Cashila, attorneys can represent investors on contingency basis, in return of a certain percentage from the awarded amount. Cashila could be liable for more than just the raised $10.5m funds if you take into account the missed gains suffered by investors while Cashila Devs are indirectly forcing their 6-months lockup period on investors. Like I said - You are deferentially going to the podium for that one. I am afraid that this podium will need to be upgraded, it starts to be crowded there. Since I don't have anything better to do right now, I will engage. So what you are saying is that Iconomi team had ACTIVELY prevented polo from listing ICN, right? And that you, or your imaginary lawyer can prove it? |
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Or comparing it to a guy that goes to the gym:
All polo cry babies are like the dudes that just want to pump their arms fast for the summer time. They achieve that by filling the arm with liquids and not with muscle tissue.
On the other hand we have this guy that wants to have a strong and balanced body, and for that he needs to work hard over long period of time.
Sure that after 2 months he won't have the big arms like the first one, but guess who will kick ass after 1-2 years?
The largest trading volume of top 10 cryptos by MarketCap is on Poloniex, not Kraken (Ethereum, Monero, Dash, Maid, Augur, Steem, Nem...) Are you suggesting these are all pump & dump shitcoins? Not at all. The purpose of those app tokens is not to bring fiat investors into crypto. For them it is essential to be traded on a crypto-only exchange, since their target audience is crypto users. Like I wrote, Iconomi has quite the opposite approach - bring the fiat investors into crypto. How many of these potential fiat investors are going to buy ICN, if it would be listed on polo and not Kraken? Most of them don't know, and don't want to know how to buy or use bitcoin. As for all these privacy-oriented coins - you'd be surprised how minor and insignificant the privacy niche is outside crypto community. For 99% of people out there, the level of privacy that bitcoin provides is more than enough. FIAT investors on Kraken need to buy BTC or ETH first, and then ICN, so if Polo listed USDT/ICN, ETH/ICN or BTC/ICN, then there wouldn't be too much difference. Either way you need a crypto first, and then you can buy ICN. The only difference is that, Polo users cannot deposit USD directly indeed, which may be convenient for some of them, but the cost is losing privacy for Kraken's KYC. Exactly, polo is crypto only exchange. I don't see them adding fiat deposits anytime soon. Fiat investors can deposit fiat into kraken directly. I just want them to add usd and euro to ICN pairs |
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Devs are not motivated to reach to Bitfinex, Poloniex, Bittrex to list ICN because they're afraid it will pump & dump too soon, before their 6-months lockup period is over.
Putting blame on exchanges is just way of forcing that same 6-month lockup period on us investors, in a quiet & indirect manner.
Also, that 6-month lockup period, is just the minimum they want to hold ICN off the large exchanges... they've got plenty of reserves ($10.5m to be exact), so they have no problem waiting, unless they're pressured with legal action by the community to stop hiding behind NDAs.
LOL. I think you are not familiar on what ICN really plans for the project. They are not afraid for the ICN price pump and dump because it is just happening right now, See for yourself on kraken. ICN devs are not focus on the exchange because that is not the essence of ICONOMI, But i will gave you a few heads up. They are planning to release their own trading platform so that the ICN investors can sell directly their ICN shares on the Iconomi site. Don't focus on exchanged, just wait for the dividends if you really want to enjoy the benefits of iconomi. I don't care about their own trading platform. I'm suggesting legal action against Cashila because they raised $10.5 million based mainly on their promise that ICN will be listed on top exchanges, but now that ICO is over, they're hiding behind NDAs, instead of being proactive to list ICN on top exchanges like they promised during ICO. Yo Princess, so you think the threat of "legal action" is going to make ICONOMI go, "Shit mate, this mofo's fucking serious, we better get that fucking bitch listed on Poloniex ASAP else we're gonna get fraped by lawyers....... Mate!!! FOOKING HELL!!! I really wish I could fucking bitch slap you right now.  The amount of uuum, mental challenge some folks have.. Also this: I don't care about their own trading platform So why the fuck did you invest into this trading platform? Did you also buy zcash, just cuz you don't care about privacy? |
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Devs are not motivated to reach to Bitfinex, Poloniex, Bittrex to list ICN because they're afraid it will pump & dump too soon, before their 6-months lockup period is over.
Putting blame on exchanges is just way of forcing that same 6-month lockup period on us investors, in a quiet & indirect manner.
Also, that 6-month lockup period, is just the minimum they want to hold ICN off the large exchanges... they've got plenty of reserves ($10.5m to be exact), so they have no problem waiting, unless they're pressured with legal action by the community to stop hiding behind NDAs.
LOL. I think you are not familiar on what ICN really plans for the project. They are not afraid for the ICN price pump and dump because it is just happening right now, See for yourself on kraken. ICN devs are not focus on the exchange because that is not the essence of ICONOMI, But i will gave you a few heads up. They are planning to release their own trading platform so that the ICN investors can sell directly their ICN shares on the Iconomi site. Don't focus on exchanged, just wait for the dividends if you really want to enjoy the benefits of iconomi. I don't care about their own trading platform. I'm suggesting legal action against Cashila because they raised $10.5 million based mainly on their promise that ICN will be listed on top exchanges, but now that ICO is over, they're hiding behind NDAs, instead of being proactive to list ICN on top exchanges like they promised during ICO. LOL You are deferentially going to the podium! Wait, I have an idea for you - why don't you conduct an ICO to collect money for those legal actions of yours. Who knows, maybe Iconomi will participate in it. |
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Those two big buy walls on Kraken have moved above 200K. Looks like the race is about to start soon
Every second day, we hear buy wall has reached -- , now the price will rise to the moon. And icn / btc rate isn't affected much after that. The real pump would happen when it's trade volume increases. With such a low daily trading volume, each trade is affecting the price of icn. Hopefully, when dividends come, icn volume will increase. Eventually many more exchanges would list icn. Then we can see the real journey of icn to moon. Actually the buy wall was @150K for quite a long time. I don't think that first dividends will be attractive, besides the fact that dividends were actually paid. ICN price will be determined by the quality of the product, and not by daily trading volume. The trading volume is just another symptom. I think any kind of dividends (unless they are completely negligible) would be huge news. It would mean the company is working and growing and the market will price in any future grow and potential like it happens with stock companies. The problem right now is that the crypto scene or bubble seems to have popped for now, BTC pumped and many alts lost almost 100% in value. Now BTC is dumping and the bleeding continues...so not sure what's going on. BTC ride won't stop anytime soon |
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Or comparing it to a guy that goes to the gym:
All polo cry babies are like the dudes that just want to pump their arms fast for the summer time. They achieve that by filling the arm with liquids and not with muscle tissue.
On the other hand we have this guy that wants to have a strong and balanced body, and for that he needs to work hard over long period of time.
Sure that after 2 months he won't have the big arms like the first one, but guess who will kick ass after 1-2 years?
The largest trading volume of top 10 cryptos by MarketCap is on Poloniex, not Kraken (Ethereum, Monero, Dash, Maid, Augur, Steem, Nem...) Are you suggesting these are all pump & dump shitcoins? Not at all. The purpose of those app tokens is not to bring fiat investors into crypto. For them it is essential to be traded on a crypto-only exchange, since their target audience is crypto users. Like I wrote, Iconomi has quite the opposite approach - bring the fiat investors into crypto. How many of these potential fiat investors are going to buy ICN, if it would be listed on polo and not Kraken? Most of them don't know, and don't want to know how to buy or use bitcoin. As for all these privacy-oriented coins - you'd be surprised how minor and insignificant the privacy niche is outside crypto community. For 99% of people out there, the level of privacy that bitcoin provides is more than enough. |
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Those two big buy walls on Kraken have moved above 200K. Looks like the race is about to start soon
Every second day, we hear buy wall has reached -- , now the price will rise to the moon. And icn / btc rate isn't affected much after that. The real pump would happen when it's trade volume increases. With such a low daily trading volume, each trade is affecting the price of icn. Hopefully, when dividends come, icn volume will increase. Eventually many more exchanges would list icn. Then we can see the real journey of icn to moon. Actually the buy wall was @150K for quite a long time. I don't think that first dividends will be attractive, besides the fact that dividends were actually paid. ICN price will be determined by the quality of the product, and not by daily trading volume. The trading volume is just another symptom. |
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Because most of you don't have a brain to put two and two together, let's make it as simple as possible.
This might or might not be true (take with grain of salt) but Im fairly sure these are the reasons:
(Liqui I won't even talk about because they are nobodies)
1) Kraken insta-listed because Iconomi will be using them as their liquidity provider (for the main tokens/coins BTC most probably), so a deal might be in place hense the NDA, they have stated that there will be no order books when entering and exit positions in the OFM for your investors so these will be executed through a backend system connected to ICONOMI to/from exchanges.
2) That ofcourse leaves a few coins/tokens (looking at ICNX additions/removals DGD,Steem, etc etc which might be available for OFM later on) on another exchange (for liquidity reasons) that aren't listed. So we are left with 2 altcoin exchanges Poloniex and Bittrex as ICNX/OFM rebalancing/purchasing/liquidating needs to be done outside Kraken (non listed coins) .. My guess is they have a special deal (NDA) for lower / no fees / market making with one of the two.
TLDR: For addition of other coins into ICNX/OFM they need someone that provides a bigger variety of coins. Poloniex has the biggest volume on most alts (so slippage is minimal) vs Bittrex, it's either one or the other and the news will probably hit us on ICNX/INCP for a new exchange or will be kept under wraps until OFM launches.
So keep calm and Iconomi on...
Very nice post. I'd like to add this: Iconomi is all about connecting traditional economy with crypto. It means that the flow of money is fiat---->crypto Having Kraken at the front is perfect implementation of that strategy, while Polo adds very little to it. Polo is good for pumping alt/shit coins, and it was clear from Day1 that Iconomi team is not into that AT ALL. I still think it is better to have slow and balanced grow aligned with the actual product achievements than polo steroids for short time which have nothing real behind it. You know why? Because once the platform will reach maturity, the price jump will be stronger than anything that polo can generate now. Or comparing it to a guy that goes to the gym: All polo cry babies are like the dudes that just want to pump their arms fast for the summer time. They achieve that by filling the arm with liquids and not with muscle tissue. On the other hand we have this guy that wants to have a strong and balanced body, and for that he needs to work hard over long period of time. Sure that after 2 months he won't have the big arms like the first one, but guess who will kick ass after 1-2 years? edit: spelling |
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Those two big buy walls on Kraken have moved above 200K. Looks like the race is about to start soon
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