Excited to see there's movement, thrilling crypto times and Helium is along for the ride.

Wallets go up and down on exchanges ALL the time for all sorts of technical (and depending on exchange possibly manipulative reasons) just a fact of life here.

It isn't because there's no wallet yet, can't trade without a live chain either which also doesn't exist.

Or it might be $100, speculation is speculation, and I thought there was a specific forum for that to help keep the hype/shilling to a minimum in this one.

yup, i'll get right on that...

Or you could just use blockfolio like most people  .

The IOTA tangle is a LOT like the byteball DAG.  Presently neither are functioning as they will when fully implemented, unfortunately that also means both are reliant on additional centralization at present, however, the future state for both provide for decentralization very much UNLIKE Ripple et al, that have no plans for such.

At this point it's a question of trust in the devs.

1. This is the MINING forum.

2. If it looks too good to be true, it's not real

I had a few early wins with just that, and I've read unicorn stories about XEM and others that made people BIG money.  Sadly, I have a day job and too little time to personally chase these things but now that ICO fever has died down and it seems AIRDROP is the new buzzword there's certainly some serious potential out there.

It's sad that the bots and farmers are so heavy in the industry though, that combined with outright fraudulent projects makes it a total crap shoot.

Still just sitting here waiting patiently to see a Helium wallet post

What miner are you using?  The bios needs for z cash algo is different from eth or line to, might need to modify that again to make them stable.

 Secure nodes are on test net, so it's likely they'll be pushed to live relatively soon (before end of year).  This is probably part of a general alt recovery, but I'm glad Zen is finally getting some movement.

It was clear before the swap bittrex wasn't signed on to support the swap, and took a was the only exchange participating.

I really doubt, especially given their current troubles, that trex is going to do anything for the spread held there.

Amusing part is there has been ZERO value transfer so far since HLM isn't tradeable or valued ATM.  At least when the ZCL/ZEN debacle happened you could see your value shift and mostly remain.  Now SPR is dumped and HLM is temporarily worthless so effectively most people are way in the red right now.

I suspect HLM to come out between $1-3 so it'll balance but kinda funny to think about.

Lol, hell of a spread there, better be 100:1 odds 

Most promising of ALL coins out there is quite a statement.  I like morningstar, from a philosophical standpoint if nothing else.  Yet I still don't see any reason for such a bold proclamation.  It's a fun micro-cap alt ATM but wouldn't bet the farm on it.

I'm fairly certain it's another SHA-256 coin.  Although that's based purely on vague recollection from reading.

The ZCL/ZEN shot definitely had it's issues.  Yet both coins are still in development, ZEN especially, and after the hype ZCL pump, post-snapshot dump, and ZEN fluctuating to find it's baseline, it's been a rather stable market for both.  ZEN still has some serious potential, and ZCL won't vanish like some though, although I doubt it will ever develop much beyond an also ran ZEC code-fork (which is literally what it was meant to be).

That is, unless the ZCL folks make inroads against ZEC.

In this case SPR/HLM is a little different because the projects really aren't related much at all.  Spread was just a low-value low-cap coin that was available at the time to use for a snapshot for HLM (whatever contributing factors the devs had for making money on the switch aside), but the direction HLM is going is radically different than SPR.

Provided SPR has any real direction that is, my sense from holding and following it because of Helium was that it was a single dev project, and that dev was rather uninterested in really pushing the code development anyway.

Return all depends on what you paid for your Spread too, though.  I bought very early on in the pre-notice, and even after the BIG price drop was still marginally ahead.

Granted, that was a gamble on a project that had almost no info at the time so could've easily gone either way, at this point the HLM I picked up is just a benefit of the hold.

I guess the moral of the story, is still, buy low, sell high(er).

I jumped through all their hoops and still never received my airdrop, rather displeased with this crew.