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I have about 10k stuck on rush.in
I'm willing to donate them all to a "Get TALK if you download TALK" drive.
Need about 5-10 volunteers to get 3-4 friends to download TALK.
Best to pick Sr./Heros
I will send them much larger proportions. Newbies can have a few too.
Also am willing to throw $ at getting some permanent nodes, does anyone know of fair and reliable service?
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addnode=www.multifaucet.tk:50557 got connected have a peer 177.35.182.17:50557 |
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@gustav ... yes great doors to knock on  Smart move. RE: the case for BIG Most recently for example, when Counterparty published their papers, they committed to using OP_RETURN based on 80 byte storage only to find Bitcoin 0.9.0 prevents relaying of transactions containing more than OP_RETURN of 40 bytes! Quite a nasty surprise!
So ask yourself, “is playing cat and mouse really a viable option for a smart protocol?” Bitcoin will definitely continue to play whack-a-mole against perceived blockchain abuse. Despite all the benefits of building on an existing, well established infrastructure, it’s simply not safe to do so when that infrastructure can outlaw you at any time. http://blog.viacoin.org/2014/07/11/the-story-of-viacoin.htmlCounterparty is trying to build a multi-Billion $dollar platform on-top of a tech that could lock them out at anytime. If we create the BIG coin then who cares about the data bloat! And this BIG coin is basically the child of UNO (but not recorded inour blockchain). We potentially could court Counterparty ... Do you think that might help fortify our Dev and Research Department?  |
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"option 3 would be: auxpow other coins with uno in which case uno remains unchanged." Yes. That's it. "so you say: 'wait a little and do nothing' , right?" No. We have to be at the fore front of SHA256 Aux creation, do we fork Uno? Later, maybe, but much later. The goal is getting a group of SHA Alts co-mining UNO. This means code plus getting pool Ops to create xyzCoin/UNO.aux pools. [other issue] Zeta merging into UNO makes sense to me. Also ... Au, aCoin, and any other SHA that is entering the finally distribution stage ... merging into the UNO family is a good idea. Uno must be both resourceful with tech help and lucrative for mining/miners. So this is a 1-2 combo punch. [and a 3rd punch ... Aux BTC if needed ... fork in Via code] Example 1We help get GOAT fork in AuxPoW (the Via code). Then we help get an UNO pool setup that also Aux mines GOAT. Now the GOAT miners can still support and mine GOAT and get bonus UNO coins. I think in theory the BTC network could also plug in to GOAT, but I doubt they would bother. Example 2We help get BIG to fork in AuxPoW (the Via code). Same as Above. Now the BIG miners can still support and mine BIG and get bonus UNO coins. ...but... Big becomes a shelter coin for very small coins that merge into BIG ... the appeal is a popular one, many miners, for many different reasons mine BIG (maybe a shacoin for everyone). Uno benefits just the same as in example 1. An UNO pool setup that also Aux mines BIG. |
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if we implement auxpow with btc we wouldn't have to sacrifice the 3-minute-blocks or would we?
This auxpow is does not exist (yet). I am not a fan of auxpow off the BTC network. Because that means we give up on the 'Fair' part of Uno. I suggest creating something that lets others tap into Aux Uno. option 1 -uno auxpow with btc and other coins auxpow with uno That's the general idea Focus on "auxpow with uno" 1. setup other coins auxpow with uno ("an plugin" that they implement into their code) 2. much later (and only if needed) uno forks 2 get auxpow with the btc network 3. if UNO forks to have the Auxpow-like-Via then any pool can mine UNO (bitcoin pools too). But I whisper this ... We invent auxpow sha256 ... test it on some other coins ... wait watch until uno makes 2 more halves ... and if it is all good then fine okay ... AuxPow into the Towers of Sauron. |
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Some paid endorsers and sheep are following the coin
it only dropped +70% in 7days ... nuff said SMART needs to mature some before a big push, gravity is a problem for ALL pows best to get it lighter before any be surge in drafting outsiders to invest. First is gathering of the base supporters. Organizing a sound road map. My latest thoughts are SMART is a brand, a company. Doing what? Everything. Intelligent people, a think tank, and DAC group involved in many facets of the NEM. A Smarter ... United Open Currency Solutions Group world.ftc.phx (UNOCS) Primarily over the course of the next 2-3 quarters organizing and shaping the whole of the Alt crypto world. Thus, SMART should focus on its investment division. Intelligent smart crypto fund management - full spectrum investing. If you think you're SMART enough ... start posting  |
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And if Unobtanium 'nearly' has a sustainable mining rate, then it still doesn't have a sustainable mining rate.
True. If UNO goes to $1000/coin tomorrow then we must pay the miners, the POW network, $15,000/day. I think that is a bit much. But we will only have to pay $4000/day around November. BTC @ $1000/coin must pay $3.6M/day. This makes UNO 900x more efficient at securing value on a SHA256 network. Does this sound appealing? And it gets more and more efficient as we approach year 2020. I really do understand your dislike of Bitcoin; but we are a smart smart community: if kissing Bitcoin's sweaty behind is the best option for us, should we not just do it right now?
Strong No to merging with Bitcoin. 1. UNO network is in a comfort zone still, and shows all the signs of continued growth. 2. There is no incentive at this time to concede defeat, we can strive for defeating SHAblock 10min, it may appear a slim potential but it is very possible. Don't bend a knee to btc, UNO is better suited to be the 'Challenger' to BTC. We stand to gain fame and honor. 3. Until other sha256 networks (at least of half the strength of UNO) are under attack then there is little reward to blending into the BTC network. As long as the UNO network is reasonably secure then the risk of attack is very low. Note: not even 5 Mh/s junkie scrypt coins are being attacked so far. 4. There are already 2 chains on BTC that are ZERO inflation (transaction fee only) ... UNO would be 3rd rated best inflation rate on SHAblock 10min. NOTE: once we reach the sustain mining rate of production then the dynamics change. For right now UNO is a 'Fair Distrubution' not a 'BTC side chain' kind of coin. |
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Bitcoin's gotta succeed for anything else on that list to succeed.
BTC is a 10% TAX PER EVERY $1 INVESTED No matter how much money you pour into BTC. No matter how much the BTC price rises or falls. Until BTC halves about 5 times it is a giant tax to the miners. Do you think the world is willing to wait 20years? Do Uno of any super low inflationary SHA 256 coins that the billion dollar plus SHA 256 mining network can switch over to? |
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we can have merge to BTC network as an option of very very very last resort like not until at least 4 more halving before we even move it to "Possible" Until then we fight like a champion ... This Zeta option is hot (Z is at sustain mining phase) ... UNO is nearly there too. Our combined message regarding inflation and value growth may just land a very serious blow to BTC ... very serious. Even at $1 BTC their network costs $3600/day to run (and at that point for $13M in market cap) ... BTC is a joke a sick joke ... it is exactly the same as a bank charging you $1 per $3500 per day. Let me repeat that. No matter how much money you pour into the investment. No matter how much the BTC price rises or falls. You are being billed $1 per day per $3500 ... in other words ... you are taxed more than $1 per $10 per year. THAT'S BTC >> 10% TAX PER EVERY $1 INVESTED << This message combined with the Uno-Zeta solution to this problem is BIG! --- ps Hello supernet.org |
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The Wisdome of balu2: "i don't want to trade against bitcoin much longer."
He's not alone on that opinion. BTC:ltc volume ratios last 24hrs 2:1 normal ratio is 10:1 (x5) edit: BTC/$ vs ltc/$ measure of volume each generates |
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options
A. Plan Let's be NameCoin
Merge with BTC network >> uno FORKS and becomes 10min blocks >> all the coins go to the big fish (super powerful mining companies)
B. Plan Let's be Via/SysCoin for the SHA network
AuxPow from any/all SHA network >> uno FORKS stays 3min blocks >> nearly all the coins go to the big fish (super powerful mining companies aka BTC miners) but Maza, Terra, Zeta and any other network can contribute Hash power to the UNO network. Uno gains hash at levels of IO, DEV, and if the price rises UNO hash = NAME hash. In theory UNO network could be bigger than BTC network.
C. Plan Let's be the Alternative network to BTC network
Merge ZETA(or other) into UNO network >> uno does not FORK >> zeta Forks to gain a better network (x24 more Hash power) Uno gains too (maybe x1.05 more Hash immediately but as Zeta rises in price it helps attract miners to Uno). Because to mine Zeta you mine Uno. Same way NAME is mined you mine BTC.
bb. Plan Let's help smaller networks by letting them mine UNO too
Create and help fork into other networks UNO specific AuxPow code & UNO specific AuxPow pools >> uno does not FORK >> other coins fork but can mine UNO on the side. Uno gains (maybe x50-100 more Hash) but network gains will be slower to realize.
mp. Plan Mine Mine Mine
Focus on Multipool. See Jumbucks above. Other coins are mined and sold to buy UNO. This eventually becomes a zero sum game, or the 'Most Popular' coin to mine wins and the 'Most Popular' coin buy loses. So miners vs. buyers/investors. Miners winning the battle.
bp. Plan Buy Buy Buy
Focus on price. Raise uno to $20/kg. And you will get (options B. & mp.) free with out any work ... the reward is everyone mines UNO and dumps it to support their coin of choice. So miners vs. buyers/investors. Buyers/investors winning the battle.
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Our destiny is the combo of plans [C.+bb.+mp.bp.] This sets up uno as 'the' alternative network with real teeth.
plan B. will make us a great coin ... but will need to fork ... PLUS in the short term we will see a boost in Hash power ... BUT we will end up being 90% consumed by the centralized powers of "The Bitcoin Network"TMas uno prices rise ... but this maybe 2 or 3 years so independents can mine for sometime ... all in all this is just plan A. the long way with the bonus theory that UNO network could be bigger than BTC network.
plan A. we lose. We are just another free coin for the centralized powers of "The Bitcoin Network"TM we are no cooler than i0 coin.
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fun fact UNO has $1 for every $40 of doge capital ... i think this is awesome ... it shows we can hold the bottom line $VALUE ... all it takes is a little spark and we have a top-notch NAME brand waiting to be discovered.
sort version: got NAME & got $VALUE
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KARMA has no max coins?
Just 10k/block forever?
It literally says right in the very first post: "92 billion total coins" op literally says Approximately 92 billion total coins
10,000 coins per block with an additional bonus payout based on the block number being mined * 300,000-400,000 blocks => 10,000 + 10,000 bonus*(started Sept. 01, 2014)
* 400,000+ blocks => 10,000 coins KARMA has no max coins?
Just 10k/block forever?
Correct. First page is wrong. No one knows with certainty? If it's 400,000+ blocks => 10,000 coins (forever) then there is no Max. or the halving schedule is wrong |
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"Subscriptions"
mouse over "Feature allows for automatic recurring payments"
alt
"AutoPay"
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Josh posted this on Hashtalk.... Any opinion on the accuracy? https://hashtalk.org/topic/27749/orginal-paycoinBefore we choose the name "Paycoin" we did our due diligence. While we found one had been started with the same name, we did not find any activity (sites, forum, etc). We also reached out to the original developer with no response. After a long period of waiting, we assumed that the coin had been abandoned and moved forward with purchasing all the names rights. Once we launched Paycoin, some of the original coin holders came forward to express their frustration with our decision. Since then, we have been working with them to find a solution. I am happy to say we have reached an agreement with them and have their blessing to use the name. Thanks! I'd love to find out who "them" is. I am PYC coinholder and I know nothing about it. It's a decentralized coin, like almost all other coins, except XPY and other, so not sure who we would have talked to /\since when? how many you got? when did you buy/mine them?:\ tia "I'd love to find out who "them" is. I am PYC coinholder and I know nothing about it." XPY pr team is full of B.S. Did they post anything on this thread? Who is "them" that represents "us"  [We/xpy] have their blessing to use the name. Really? Show me this blessing that the real Paycoin gave. |
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@IMZ Don't
--if it works for a few then it works good enough to continue the test (it is a beta version)
----thinking on how we can run a blockchain version parallel with dvc
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Network Data
ZetaCoin Difficulty: 36,056
Joule Difficulty: 41,466
St Louis Difficulty: 95,736
MiddleEarth Difficulty: 194,324
Beta Difficulty: 155,880
FireFlyCoin Difficulty: 221,085
Unobtanium Difficulty: 865,858
MazaCoin Difficulty: 699,833
TerraCoin Difficulty: 2,548,020
FreiCoin Difficulty: 3,737,250
BitCoin Difficulty: 40,641,000,000
I0Coin Difficulty: 01,085,070,000
PeerCoin Difficulty: 00,246,877,000
BigBullion Difficulty: 1,188,060
[ anyone care to interpret the data? ]
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That's a really great tool! I agree tho, who keeps 600+ $UNO on an exchange? Never been a bittrex fan ... but if they have this feature and cry doesn't get it too ... then Hello Bittrex. I think mr. potato sacks will be not happy about such feature. This stops Ninja dumps. Hoping this is an exchange house trend ... A. Show amounts on deposit (prove it on the chain) ... +plus ways to show distribution without linking identity B Show amounts of insurance held by escrow |
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57 coins left to be mined? 57 thousand 57k 57000 250000 max 193000 mined so far hope it's clear now Unwantanium going to replace BTC? lol it's 57,000 and 333 years to mine it. UNO is not going to 'replace' BTC but it will have a BIGGER price. UNO is a store of value (cuz no inflation) btc is a transfer of value (cuz market volume) $2 invested in btc will be about $1 next year $2 invested in UNO will be about $10 next year (cuz no inflation) |
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the way i see it
SHA256 rank by market capital
btc
name
peer
ix
uno
zeta
devcoin
Freicoin
terra
dem
maza
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what they are
btc #1 POW network
name (merged side chain)
peer (POS)
ix (merged side chain)
uno POW network
zeta POW network
devcoin (merged side chain)/coin foundation coin feed
Freicoin (ghost town)/coin foundation coin feed
terra POW network
dem (POS)
maza POW network
the REAL rank of SHA networks
btc #1 network
uno #2 network
zeta #3 network
terra #4 network
maza #5 network
2nd string: A-coin, tak, tiger, beta, tit, wank, xjo, byte
*I know not the actual hash rate rank but why are POS getting so much hash thrown at them? 1.speculative miners 2.Defensive miners trying to keep others out and push market prices 3.There will also be a social out cry not to waste so much hash on POS in the future.
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UNO is #2 on the list
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