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721  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [Bounty][ICO] Hero Token | The Future of Banking in Southeast Asia on: August 29, 2017, 04:10:26 PM

Some News

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Read more: https://medium.com/@HeroToken/hero-token-join-our-ama-session-acb80c32fbd9


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Awesome news, Hero Token, the new internet pawn shop, lender, credit that apply blockchain technology to financial industry, big step in the Southeast Asia.
722  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: August 29, 2017, 01:54:26 AM
Isn't 1.5 USD per Real Coin too high for an ICO?

A bit pricey ICO, given a large number of coins.
723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 29, 2017, 01:25:31 AM
It is going to take me months to slowly offload my B cash. Lack of liquidity is the major reason. Selling all of it as that project has no future. Using Changely and Shapeshift as well to protect my privacy. Bit of a pain but worth it to avoid KYC exit.

What KYC exist? Is changely/shapeshift better than Bittrex/Binance?

Most exchanges ask for KYC , changely/shapeshift have a worse rate but don't ask for personal info

So what is KYC exist again? sometype of commision for withdrawing???
724  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [ICO] MONETHA - Decentralised reputation with built-in payments on: August 29, 2017, 01:14:01 AM
Quite a team with ambitious project, going to read the white paper!
725  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 29, 2017, 01:07:27 AM
It is going to take me months to slowly offload my B cash. Lack of liquidity is the major reason. Selling all of it as that project has no future. Using Changely and Shapeshift as well to protect my privacy. Bit of a pain but worth it to avoid KYC exit.

What KYC exist? Is changely/shapeshift better than Bittrex/Binance?
726  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 29, 2017, 01:00:38 AM
Im getting crazy of this. Still didnt claim my bitcoin cash
Becouse i still dont know How.
I have bitcoin on A usb stick. So Wallet.dat
How cam i claim them ?? Huh

1. Before the fork, I had my bitcoins in Electrum wallet, call it "W1".
2. After the fork, I created a new wallet in Electrum call it "W2".
3. I move ALL my BTC bitcoins from W1 -> W2.
4. I install Electron Cash (for BCH Bitcoin Cash) and make a wallet in it "WCH1".
5. I export private key from Electrum "W1" (NOT W2!), from "W1" which is EMPTY.
6. I restore/import private keys from empty "W1"(BTC wallet) into "WCH1"(BCH Bitcoin Cash) wallet.
7. Now I have same amount of BCH Bitcoin Cash, which I had in W1 as BTC Bitcoin.

The reason for making W1 BTC empty and move all into W2 BTC is that in case the WCH1(BCH Bitcoin Cash) wallet is not safe, they won't be able to steal my bitcoins because I only use the private keys for the now EMPTY "W1" BTC wallet in the new BCH wallet.

Then from the BCH wallet, I sent my BCH Bitcoin Cash into my Exchange account.

BE CAREFUL:
DO NOT ACCIDENTALLY SEND BCH INTO A BTC ADDRESS.
DO NOT ACCIDENTALLY SEND BTC INTO A BCH ADDRESS.
...if you do any of those mistakes, your coins will be LOST FOREVER.


It's simple but read 10 times before you do it so that you can be sure you actually understood what I did. Smiley

But if Bitcoin Cash wallet is not safe, can your computed be infected? virus/malware,etc...because you are downloading n installing electron cash on your computer?
Has anyone tried Electrum Cash wallet? is it safe?

I use https://electrum.org for BTC (Bitcoin) it is safe as far as I know and very nice and good.

I used http://www.electroncash.org/ for BCH (Bitcoin Cash) but that software, seems safe. I do not know. I just took my BCH from it and then sent them to the exchange for trading.

If you have your private key in electrum, you can use it to recover BCH in electroncash wallet. That's what I used.

But again, read the steps I wrote 100 times to be sure what you are doing. Smiley

Lol, 100 times. Appreciated ur help!
727  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: August 29, 2017, 12:52:13 AM
If they can truly bring 12-20% annual profits this project will be awesome! I might put a big amount of my savings there if it works like they say it will.


Assume the worst. Assume you will lose it all. Only invest what you can lose.


real estate is most profitable business going all over the world. i am prefer real estate is best opportunity to invest on real project.

ehm leeman brothers, usa real estate crash?

presently there is a bubble in europe as well, since the EZB has lowered the intereset drastically. ppl are awaiting a bubble crash nowadays.

for example. a normal house with garden an 800m² costs about 200-300k € in germany, and now, the price is set at 400-500k nowadays. ppl are shooting above their income and get a credit, thus risking off not being able to pay the credit in long term.

ofc, real estate is a good investment, but not now imo

I agree that real estate markets can crash. I disagree that we are currently in a bubble right now though and think it's a very good time to get into real estate. In many European countries the housing market is only just getting out of the slump. Their Medium article mentions two partners in Spain, so lets look at Spanish housing market. That looks like a turnaround of the housing market to me.

In 2012, house prices fell 11.34% (-13.82% inflation-adjusted)
In 2013, house prices fell 9.19% (-9.44% inflation-adjusted)
In 2014, house prices fell 2.96% (-1.96% inflation-adjusted)
In 2015, house prices fell 1.71% (-1.71% inflation-adjusted)
In 2016, house prices increased slightly by 1.67% (0.1% inflation-adjusted)


source: http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Europe/Spain


As the real estate market is catching up, this Real token backed up by physical real estate can change the way
real estate operates. At least in will introduce a new digital
currency, Real Token, to real estate industry. If well adopted, I think the system will become very efficient in handling a large volume of paper work that often involve, making the buy/selling property much easier
728  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ArabianChain - DubaiCoin (DBIX) - Smart Contracts from Dubai to the World on: August 29, 2017, 12:44:16 AM
Anyone storing Dbix on MEW? how is it working out ? I couldnt add dbix to Myetherwallet.
Thanks.
729  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 29, 2017, 12:36:37 AM
Im getting crazy of this. Still didnt claim my bitcoin cash
Becouse i still dont know How.
I have bitcoin on A usb stick. So Wallet.dat
How cam i claim them ?? Huh

1. Before the fork, I had my bitcoins in Electrum wallet, call it "W1".
2. After the fork, I created a new wallet in Electrum call it "W2".
3. I move ALL my BTC bitcoins from W1 -> W2.
4. I install Electron Cash (for BCH Bitcoin Cash) and make a wallet in it "WCH1".
5. I export private key from Electrum "W1" (NOT W2!), from "W1" which is EMPTY.
6. I restore/import private keys from empty "W1"(BTC wallet) into "WCH1"(BCH Bitcoin Cash) wallet.
7. Now I have same amount of BCH Bitcoin Cash, which I had in W1 as BTC Bitcoin.

The reason for making W1 BTC empty and move all into W2 BTC is that in case the WCH1(BCH Bitcoin Cash) wallet is not safe, they won't be able to steal my bitcoins because I only use the private keys for the now EMPTY "W1" BTC wallet in the new BCH wallet.

Then from the BCH wallet, I sent my BCH Bitcoin Cash into my Exchange account.

BE CAREFUL:
DO NOT ACCIDENTALLY SEND BCH INTO A BTC ADDRESS.
DO NOT ACCIDENTALLY SEND BTC INTO A BCH ADDRESS.
...if you do any of those mistakes, your coins will be LOST FOREVER.


It's simple but read 10 times before you do it so that you can be sure you actually understood what I did. Smiley

But if Bitcoin Cash wallet is not safe, can your computed be infected? virus/malware,etc...because you are downloading n installing electron cash on your computer?
Has anyone tried Electrum Cash wallet? is it safe?
730  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 29, 2017, 12:26:47 AM
No Bitcoin is the real chain.

One is BITCOIN
One is Bitcoin Cash (a new altcoin, not the REAL BTC)


The Forks that Survives is the Real Bitcoin , and the survivor will be Bitcoin Cash.

Plus on segwitcoin , if everything goes to G.Maxwell's plan, you will only use LN ,
You won't be able to afford Onchain transactions, Offchain transactions are not bitcoin , only Onchain.


╥Aztek




To simplify things, they are all going to exist, however, there might be major n minor chain of bitcoin. With miners hopping between chain, its fluctuations like crazy. There is no unity.
731  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 29, 2017, 12:19:36 AM
No Bitcoin is the real chain.

One is BITCOIN
One is Bitcoin Cash (a new altcoin, not the REAL BTC)


The Forks that Survives is the Real Bitcoin , and the survivor will be Bitcoin Cash.

Plus on segwitcoin , if everything goes to G.Maxwell's plan, you will only use LN ,
You won't be able to afford Onchain transactions, Offchain transactions are not bitcoin , only Onchain.


╥Aztek




This BCH thing is like another language! Plus, its the future
that decided which will be mainchain. Ultimately, its the miners who devote their hard work, time, power, n the mass that assign value to coin.
732  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [Bounty][ICO] Hero Token | The Future of Banking in Southeast Asia on: August 28, 2017, 07:49:20 PM
@ Colorless: you know when the week ends? When do you start counting the number of posts for signature and other bounties?
Many Thanks,
Digiworld1

Hmmm. nothing happens . no respond ! He does not want or has no time  Grin
You should keep your work as up-to-date as with other campaigns . That should be possible. Thank you

I get where you're coming from, but a man's got to sleep from time to time as well you know, he posted when it was 2 AM here.

The Week begins on Monday and ends on Sunday. The counting will begin a week or two before the ICO finishes.

If you have any other questions let me know.

Man, I been follwing Hero for a while now, the team is quite responsive to community. ColorlessK is the man. will join bounty.
733  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ArabianChain - DubaiCoin (DBIX) - Smart Contracts from Dubai to the World on: August 28, 2017, 03:41:37 AM
Can someone tell where dubai coins are listed?
I have been looking for dubaikoin in big market like liqui, bittrex and poloniex but i did not find this coin listed there.

Its listed on Livecoin n cryptoria. Cryptoria recently listed dbix, some say that they closed depost/withdral now. So livecoin is probably your best bet
734  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 27, 2017, 01:23:38 PM
https://twitter.com/SatoshiLite/status/901537790243909632
¬¬

I sold BCH and moved(temporary) into USDT... i hope i did the right thing.. thoughts? weak hand or smart move?

Yea in a couple of hours BCH should become around 240% less profitable (I have seen it estimated at one point to be over 300%) essentially BTC miners will earn almost 3x as much as a BCH miner and all miners will most likely abandon the network again probably just for a day though until the EDA kicks in and drops it until blocks are mined at 2m intervals for a couple of days rince and repeat as long as possible until one day people have enough

I am not a btc maximalist but btc will always be king.

Never forget our roots!

Ken

The miners have a big say on which coin will be a main coin, bitcoin ot bitcoin cash. Thus, whichever coin has more value, will likely that they mine that coin for profitability. Bitcoin been around for years now, wherras Bitcoin Cash just a couple months, yet receive lots of attention. What if Bitcoin Cash was named differently, wouuld the story be the same? in order for bitcoin cash value continue rising, it needs mass adoption like bitcoin to have value.
735  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 27, 2017, 07:37:51 AM
I don't know if this is of any importance or not but there seems to be a patent pending by blockstreams used "only" as defense. Or so it seems. I dont know how to read this much info so I will pass it to you guys
https://patents.google.com/patent/US20160330034A1/en


Completely a NON-ISSUE for Bitcoin Cash, since Cash is not linking to a side chain (ie: Lightening Network) .

However , rumors are Blockstream will use it to sue Segwit2X and block their fork.

Kind of shows you that Blockstream / Greg Maxwell have been planning a takeover for years now.
LN & Segwit are their take over.

Bitcoin Cash is beyond their ability to control, since it forked before segwit infected the blockchain.


╥Aztek

This is the reason for all the centralize approach to bitcoin upgrade. I'm so happy Libertarian still exist and the ideology of decentralization will not die! No h"hostile take-over" with BCH.

i am astonished that people in crypto do not see what lightning is its the aproche to get a monopol on day to day transactions like giro banking does.

and with that patent pending it does not mean they want to protect there work it means they want to steal the gift satoshi gave the world und the unbanked .

segwit activated, increase blocksize 2mb, lighting network...Look like Bitcoin is becoming more centralized, however, its value remain n increase due to mass market adoption, we dont see this with bitcoin cash, @ least not at the moment.
736  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 27, 2017, 07:26:54 AM
Anybody who does a normal transaction with normal fees gets confirmed quickly.

There was a time when these were not 'normal fees':



OUCH. So BTC fees are thousands of times higher than BCC. And BTC has a huge full mempool that Segwit lock-in hasn't helped AT ALL.

At this point we can objectively say that BCH is superior technology when compared to BTC. While BTC has name recognition, big investment, a cult of lemming followers, and lots of market inertia, there is really nothing else going for it. Mainstream hodlers aren't technically sophisticated enough to understand the deficiencies of Segwit, full blocks, high fees, and the coming death spiral. Meanwhile, alts pump and ICOs continue unfettered. BTC/fiat continues to skyrocket, so the crunch will be extra painful.

I think the death spiral thing is really scaring the Segwits, so much so that they have to quickly yell and scream about BCH being in a death spiral, despite no evidence of that.

I've read the death spiral argument over and I believe it's sound. Basically if BTC loses hashrate quickly, it grinds to a halt and no one can transact. The already-full mempool just goes astronomical and no blocks are mined. Since BTC has been so slow anyway, if the majority of hashing goes to BCH for even a week, BTC is in serious trouble. If BTC really does fork again, at least one of the BTC forks (probably the 1MB fork) will certainly become useless and die.



This is a 1 way street, as time passes, the transaction fees will only getting higher n higher.
737  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 27, 2017, 07:16:33 AM
Anybody who does a normal transaction with normal fees gets confirmed quickly.

There was a time when these were not 'normal fees':



OUCH. So BTC fees are thousands of times higher than BCC. And BTC has a huge full mempool that Segwit lock-in hasn't helped AT ALL.

At this point we can objectively say that BCH is superior technology when compared to BTC. While BTC has name recognition, big investment, a cult of lemming followers, and lots of market inertia, there is really nothing else going for it. Mainstream hodlers aren't technically sophisticated enough to understand the deficiencies of Segwit, full blocks, high fees, and the coming death spiral. Meanwhile, alts pump and ICOs continue unfettered. BTC/fiat continues to skyrocket, so the crunch will be extra painful.

I think the death spiral thing is really scaring the Segwits, so much so that they have to quickly yell and scream about BCH being in a death spiral, despite no evidence of that.

I've read the death spiral argument over and I believe it's sound. Basically if BTC loses hashrate quickly, it grinds to a halt and no one can transact. The already-full mempool just goes astronomical and no blocks are mined. Since BTC has been so slow anyway, if the majority of hashing goes to BCH for even a week, BTC is in serious trouble. If BTC really does fork again, at least one of the BTC forks (probably the 1MB fork) will certainly become useless and die.



A few things wrong with that

1. Segwit just activated people are not using it yet wallets need to roll out versions that give out segwit enabled addresses
2. If BCH was the same value as BTC then the fees would be higher and thats with no volume and well under 1tx/s (currently 0.24tx/s) and block times being 5x faster now what will happen if volume was to increase substantially and block times normalised at 10 mins and people started spamming the mempool constantly im sure things would change
3. The network has not been stress tested to see if it can cope with constant full large blocks it will take considerably longer to verify the block which will mean more empty blocks being mined BTC gets empty blocks mined because a new one is found on the headers of the previous before its verified now multiply that by 8

Segwit won't help the congestion and fees and everybody knows it. The people spamming will not use the new Segwit transaction format so the mempool will remain full. Confirmations will be slow and the mempool will be full. Facts. Blockstream hoped that people would have NO CHOICE but to use Lightning, but everyone here knows that any one of 10 top alts are 100x more fungible and useful than LN.

If BCH was the same value as BTC then the fees would be higher and thats with no volume

This makes no sense. BCH can and does handle 8x the number of transactions of BTC. If anything, the value of BCH would increase and BTC would decrease as a RESULT of this fact. Same thing with fees, average BCH fees are 1/1700th (0.0588235%) of the average BTC fees, which in an open market would result in BCH value rising and BTC value falling. Let's say BCH was running with full blocks - it's still handling 8x as much commerce. If there is demand for 16x the current BTC on-chain transactions, perhaps the BCH fees would rise somewhat, but it's a long way to get to 1700x...

Furthemore, the BCH network absolutely HAS been stress tested - it survived its release into a hostile environment, during the height of contention about the path forward for Bitcoin. Shortly after launch, the BCH blockchain was spammed, but it cleared the entire spam transaction backlog in a single 8MB block (which was a thing of beauty for those of us watching full blocks for all of these years!). Next, BTC network was stress tested in the same manner (roughly the same number of spam transactions were sent), and it completely fell flat on its face, as it has done so many times in the last 4 years!




Time will tell which is a superior chain, but on a safe side, it might be a good idea to have Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash. Some people value bitxoin by adding the value of both bitcoin n bitcoin cash.
738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ArabianChain - DubaiCoin (DBIX) - Smart Contracts from Dubai to the World on: August 27, 2017, 02:06:32 AM
Big lie DBIX team

just couple months ago it was traded almost @ $50, now its @ $8, crypto trading is insane.
739  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ArabianChain - DubaiCoin (DBIX) - Smart Contracts from Dubai to the World on: August 26, 2017, 04:19:41 PM
NOW IS THE BEST TIME TO BUY DUBAICOIN #DBIX
 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
I sold a bunch of my Dubais at 0.016, cannot wait for the price at 0.001 to buy more  Cool
Big up, team, make me rich.

Thanks for dumping your DBIX under value to me Smiley
Do you have more of them? Wink

If you want at 0.016 pm me  Wink
 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

This is risking, trying to play the market, but is your prediction is good, then u make money.
740  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] REAL [ICO] Invest in Real Estate, Earn Ether [AUGUST TOKEN SALE] on: August 25, 2017, 06:39:21 PM
Very interesting, in the video below he mentions (@ 11:50) that we might get a look at the platform on monday or tuesday! Nice to see the project is already so far.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPbIBqlGOaU

This is one of the fields that blockchain tech be integrated into mainstream n create much more efficient work,
especially in the field of real estate.
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