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+1 The TP-Link (TL-MR3020) is the best option, lower power than laptop, less $ at risk, and very simple to flash with Technobit's firmware.
The Molex powered Hex16B I have leaks power back up the USB cable. It's really not worth the risk of plugging it into a laptop IMHO.
Also only use the cheapest USB hub, expensive ones with surge protection will refuse to work with it.
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the actual miner itself does not seem to connect to the hex miner. It might be the problem I ran into today of power leaking back to the USB and if the USB port has surge protection it cuts it off. Check out the Hex16A Tutorial too http://youtu.be/l9SgoVm16Sw?t=3m43s as that show the windows setup. |
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(funny how Speedy seem to have 'canceled' so many Nanofury orders - they must have X-Ray specs!) You don't need X-ray specs the tape says "TechnoBit" in giant letters all over the box!  |
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OK, this is my review of the Hex16B and ordering from Technobit.  Shipping / Ordering 19th Nov 2013, 1x Hex16B + TP-Link Router, for December Batch 1, was delivered Dec 13th, Paid PayPal, Shipping DPD €32 22nd Nov 2013, 1x Hex16B, for December Batch 1, was delivered January 22nd, Paid BitPay, Shipping €4 "larger order" 23rd Nov 2013, 4x Hex16B, for December Batch 1, was delivered January 10th, Paid BitPay, Shipping €4 "larger order" PayPal order arrived on time, BitPay orders were late. Suggest paying the extra 5% for PayPal to get order early. Combined shipping for "larger orders" does not work, and may delay your order, suggest adding shipping to each order. There was no tracking number but all arrived in the UK around 7 days after the ordering system went from "payment accepted" to "shipped". The TP-Link router did not arrive pre-flashed, but it's not hard to do it yourself. I suggest using one because it becomes a 2W mining PC. If you want to know how to set one up check my old posts here... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307897.msg3948133#msg3948133 It's not a standalone device you have to set it up with a PC PSU by shorting the green and black wires on the motherboard connector. My Hex16B is hooked up to a molex connector for power, unlike the first one on this page, which is wired into the yellow/black wires.  The 6x Hex16B I have + TP-Link (running at 540/900) are pulling 415W at the wall for 270GH/s return. That's a very impressive 0.65GH/W or 1.54W/GH at the wall! I'm using 2x Enermax NAXN 350W (2x 150W +12v rails) PSU because they split all the molex out to 3 separate wires and are cheap < £30/$40. Beware of putting too many units on the same wire as it could melt the cable! These PSU are only 83% efficient so that makes my Hex16B miners around 56.44W at the board. Instructions for bringing up the cgminer screen are here... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=307897.msg4448429#msg4448429 The chips on my Hex16B are Bitfury clones they say "BioInfoBank" on them. http://bioinfobank.com/I tracked the origin of these chips back to the BioInfoBank 100TH-mine project https://picostocks.com/businessplan/19.pdfThen found out that http://www.bitfury.org was in England! Nice work guys on making 55nm as efficient as KnCs 28nm!   I too have problems with power leaking out of the USB port. USB hubs with power/surge protection may refuse to work with some units!* I have the molex versions and there is a resistor between the +12v and Ground, is this to stop 12v leaking out I wonder? I just bunged the problem unit on a cheap $3 ebay hub without surge protection and it works okay.* I'm using a cheap TP-Link router for mining, so it don't worry me, but I wouldn't risk connecting this to my PC/Laptop. I'm happy with them, they're really well made, they are twice as efficient as the Avalon and BFL, but possibly there is a problem with Bitfury chip shortages at the moment and a miner that's not mining is just losing money, no matter how efficient it is. * There's an update to my power leakage issue here later in this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=338790.msg4642613#msg4642613The other 5x Hex16B I got didn't leak power but the one that did caused issues when I tried to use 2x PSUs. This is how I solved it. |
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Can you give us order and payment date plz? To give others waiters a comparison point...
2013-11-23 1 846,00€ bitpay Payment accepted - Add to order 2€ 2013-11-22 463,00€ bitpay Payment accepted - Add to order 2€ 2013-11-19 528,70€ PayPal Shipped - Arrived 13th Dec 2013 - DPD Economy 30€ They were all for December batch 1 shipment. I was expecting Marto to combine the orders, left note on each order, but this did not happen. The TP-Router did not arrive pre-flashed. There was no tracking number after it changed to "shipped" and the order came via Speedy not DPD. The one that has arrived is working good. I'm impressed with the craftsmanship. This is my first order with Technobit and I'd be happy to buy more if he can ship the rest of my order. Marto, how can I get you to ship the rest of my order? I'm happy to send you some more for shipping if that's the problem. How about adding an item your Accessories page called "Add More Shipping" or something like that. I thought about ordering a couple of USB cables, but I'm worried I might just get the USB cables! |
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Success 39.7Ghps!
Why doesn't it like my Orico P10-U2-BK USB Hub? What make/model are you guys using?
Maybe it's because it's a top notch USB hub which has surge protection?
I noticed the Hex16B was sending power back down the hub from the PC PSU!
I didn't need to power the hub to get the TP-Link powered. Is that normal?
According to marto Yes It does not hurts. But i am not good with wires do not count on my opinion After 2-3 hours you should be making 44GH stable just give the broad some time to level Look at the api stats for actual rate I am mining at bitminter also and most probably you are minig at diff 16 or 32 which can give you variation in bitminter hash rate +-15% sometimes more depending on luck. The actual number og Ghs 100% correct will be seen in api-log. More over due to current implementation your HW errors will be always 0 they are not counted I've put it on a cheap £2/$3 chinese no name USB hub (that always got stuck in sleep mode so i never used it) and it's working good! I'm seeing 37.5-48.1 GH/s (0.44% rejects) for 38A/74w power draw at the wall, 20% PSU loss, means it's about 60w really. |
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Success 39.7 Ghps at Bitminter!
Why doesn't it not like my Orico P10-U2-BK USB Hub? What make/model are you guys using?
Maybe it's because it's a premium USB hub which has surge protection?
I noticed the Hex16B was sending power back down the hub from the PC PSU!
I didn't need to power the hub to get the TP-Link powered. Is that normal?
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Thanks ditching DHCP and manually setting the IPv4 works. I can see the interface now.
Gratz  OK had it mining over an hour now, damn that fan's noisy, and nothing is happening at Bitminter, 0.0Ghps. Can someone help me diagnose what's wrong please. I can ping it ok and it's got an address on my network, has my router as Gateway and DNS and 8.8.8.8 (Google). Router diagnostics all pass okay. It's like the it's not talking to the miner or the pool? System Log Configuration Pool 1 = stratum+tcp://mint.bitminter.com:3333
Pool1 worker = UserName_WorkerName
Pool1 password = 1234
Pool 2 =
Pool2 worker =
Pool2 password =
Pool 3 =
Pool3 worker =
Pool3 password =
Pool Balance(Default: Failover) = Failover
Handle USB detect errors as (Default: hexA) = hexB
Hex16A Chip Count (Default: 16) = 16
Hex16A Chip Frequency (Default: 350) = 350
Hex16A Chip Core Voltage mV (Default: 1200) = 1200
Hex16B Chip Count (Default: 16) = 16
Hex16B Chip Frequency Bits (Default: 540) = 540
Hex16B Chip Core Voltage mV (Default: 900) = 900
Hex16C Chip Count (Default: 16) = 16
Hex16C Frequency (Default: 1500) = 1500
Hex16C Chip Core Voltage mV (Default: 1100) =1100
API Allow (Default: W:127.0.0.1) = R:127.0.0.1
More Options =
Cgminer API Log [Firmware Version] => 20131125
cgminer: 3_8_3_be51dcf
Reply was 'STATUS=S,When=1386946034,Code=70,Msg=CGMiner stats,Description=cgminer 3.8.3|STATS=0,ID=POOL0,Elapsed=180,Calls=0,Wait=0.000000,Max=0.000000,Min=99999999.000000,Pool Calls=0,Pool Attempts=0,Pool Wait=0.000000,Pool Max=0.000000,Pool Min=99999999.000000,Pool Av=0.000000,Work Had Roll Time=false,Work Can Roll=false,Work Had Expire=false,Work Roll Time=0,Work Diff=4.00000000,Min Diff=4.00000000,Max Diff=4.00000000,Min Diff Count=14,Max Diff Count=14,Times Sent=2,Bytes Sent=144,Times Recv=10,Bytes Recv=7605,Net Bytes Sent=144,Net Bytes Recv=7605|'
[STATUS] =>
(
[STATUS] => S
[When] => 1386946034
[Code] => 70
[Msg] => CGMiner stats
[Description] => cgminer 3.8.3
)
[STATS0] =>
(
[STATS] => 0
[ID] => POOL0
[Elapsed] => 180
[Calls] => 0
[Wait] => 0.000000
[Max] => 0.000000
[Min] => 99999999.000000
[Pool Calls] => 0
[Pool Attempts] => 0
[Pool Wait] => 0.000000
[Pool Max] => 0.000000
[Pool Min] => 99999999.000000
[Pool Av] => 0.000000
[Work Had Roll Time] => false
[Work Can Roll] => false
[Work Had Expire] => false
[Work Roll Time] => 0
[Work Diff] => 4.00000000
[Min Diff] => 4.00000000
[Max Diff] => 4.00000000
[Min Diff Count] => 14
[Max Diff Count] => 14
[Times Sent] => 2
[Bytes Sent] => 144
[Times Recv] => 10
[Bytes Recv] => 7605
[Net Bytes Sent] => 144
[Net Bytes Recv] => 7605
)
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Ok I downloaded 0.1.0.rar
I downloaded FreeUnrar and inside are 4 files
0_1_0_openwrt-ar71xx-generic-tl-mr3020-v1-squashfs-factory.bin
0_1_0_openwrt-ar71xx-generic-tl-mr3020-v1-squashfs-sysupgrade.bin
7ddb94d6964f2451d2e76f70b069dfdf2b3d4d6f.patch
Changelog
I went to 192.168.0.99 - SYSTEM TOOLS - FIRMWARE
I told it to use 0_1_0_openwrt-ar71xx-generic-tl-mr3020-v1-squashfs-factory.bin
It said firmware upgraded okay.
But on reboot I cannot connect to it on 192.168.0.99 or 254
When I do an IPCOFING it shows 169.254.85.24 255.255.0.0
Any ideas? Because that's a big a subnet range to try every IP address on!
Set you computer ip to 192.168.0.100 Then connect to 192.168.0.99 via web Edit : Wait... you can access 192.168.0.99 before flashing? Thanks ditching DHCP and manually setting the IPv4 works. I can see the interface now. |
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Arrrghh! My worst fear! They only sent 1x Hex16b miner! The one I paid in PayPal. They didn't add the other 5x paid in Bitcoins, even though each order had note on it saying combine all three orders! To top it off I don't think the TP-Link is pre-flashed. When I go to 192.168.0.254 it just looks like a regular TP-Link screen. I was hoping for a simple install.  Can anyone give me a guide on how to flash/use the TP-Link as a miner please? The default ip is 192.168.0.99  Go to SYSTEM TOOLS - FIRMWARE UPGRADE then browse for the image that downloaded from technobit. Use factory.bin image Latest version is 0.1.0 DownloadAgain, after flashing, the default ip is 192.168.0.99. Ok I downloaded 0.1.0.rar I downloaded FreeUnrar and inside are 4 files 0_1_0_openwrt-ar71xx-generic-tl-mr3020-v1-squashfs-factory.bin 0_1_0_openwrt-ar71xx-generic-tl-mr3020-v1-squashfs-sysupgrade.bin 7ddb94d6964f2451d2e76f70b069dfdf2b3d4d6f.patch Changelog I went to 192.168.0.99 - SYSTEM TOOLS - FIRMWARE I told it to use 0_1_0_openwrt-ar71xx-generic-tl-mr3020-v1-squashfs-factory.bin It said firmware upgraded okay. But on reboot I cannot connect to it on 192.168.0.99 or 254 When I do an IPCOFING it shows 169.254.85.24 255.255.0.0 Any ideas? Because that's a big a subnet range to try every IP address on! |
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Arrrghh! My worst fear! They only sent 1x Hex16b miner! The one I paid in PayPal. They didn't add the other 5x paid in Bitcoins, even though each order had note on it saying combine all three orders! To top it off I don't think the TP-Link is pre-flashed. When I go to 192.168.0.254 it just looks like a regular TP-Link screen. I was hoping for a simple install. I see Firmware Version: 3.14.2 Build 120817 Rel.55520n Can anyone give me a guide on how to flash/use the TP-Link as a miner please? |
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Has anyone found any limit to the number of Hex16b you can USB to the TL-MR3020 router?
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www.btcfpga.com or bASIC or www.modminerquadstore.com ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=135301.0) They had a good history of delivered FPGAs, took pre-order money on promise of delivering an ASIC, after a long time passed said the project was canceled, gave back some refunds (don't think they refunded everyone), said the company was sold to someone else, sold more FPGA's under a new domain name, then it went off-line for good after his account was hacked (apparently). BUYER BEWARE! Sadly Arbitrage Scams are common in the Bitcoin community, they usually start off as a pre-order or group buy with long lead time, which after they run out of excuses, ends up with them either just running off with the money, refunding it in dollars after a rise in Bitcoin's value, or delaying delivery so they can mine on the machine you paid for! 
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The USA taxes barter trades (commodity swaps), this means, Bitcoin had to be legally recognized in the USA courts! They can sell the proceeds of crime. They would have to brute force the password on the wallet first though. Although they have another law for that, if you don't hand over you password when requested by a court, you get more jail time. God help those who are genuinely forgetful! |
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It's likely that ltc price will rise as more people spend more money to mine it, similar to bitcoin. It'll also have more people materially invested in the coins talking about them, also the same result. If Bitcoin price raises to $5k, people will want to get on the next profitable coin. Maybe ltc goes to 250-500.
+1 I think LTC will be a good invest. Need more cheap LTC right now People mine Litecoin, because it's not Bitcoin. If I had to buy an ASIC to mine Litecoin, why would I bother, I might as well just buy an ASIC to mine Bitcoin.  |
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I very interested to see what Black arrow will put out for a product, not so much the product as the release date they are putting. I'm pretty new to the forums, but I mean this is something that could make or break a company. If they come out with there Feb.24 13 release, we will have a huge advantage over other miners, as most companies like KNC are saying Q1/Q2, and 13grand for 3000 gh/s. Personally it will be interesting to see what kind of heat these units put out when overclocked, I know you guys are in the early stages, but I'm itching kind of testing you will have. I've already purchased 2 units, if you guys follow your deadline, I can promise you I wont ever be looking anywere else, as long as you are keeping up with the competition!
The KnC unit will require more power than a standard US domestic home socket provides which probably means it's overclocked to the max already. Q1/Q2 is like a 6 month range, it could be June 2014! BA's 24th Feb is almost like saying March really Everyone recons it takes 3 months to go into production after tape out. They should have taped out already to hit that target, no? |
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Marto,
Any shipping update on the orders placed in Nov for the Hex16bs? Orders RHUKXBYOC & FUCZJQEEC, still just lists as payment accepted. I want to order more while they are available but I want to get the ones I ordered first.
Thanks,
Yeah we're all in the same boat, waiting for our November orders to arrive, so we know Marto is the real deal, before buying more. When mine arrive I'll post pics here so people know if this is all genuine. A bit scary the PayPal was pulled, but if this is a scam it's the best damn executed one I've ever seen!  Yes the loss of PayPal is a worry - is this the result of a suspension I wonder? This did at least provide the credit card safety net. Given the current situation with unfulfilled orders from November delivery talk of January delivery seems a long way off... It doesn't help either that no DPD tracking number was supplied with my shipping confirmation so the only way I'll know for sure if anything is on it's way is when it reaches my door. Just got to be patient I suppose. |
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Be carefull when tighten or loosen the terminal screw since there is 1 capacitor closed.  Why is the 12v+ blue in this picture, shouldn't it be yellow?  By the rules yes. Mine cables are in various colors depending of the wire color sold to me:) In my HEXA boards i am using 1.5mm wires in various colors because the stores always did not have yellow in stock What i can tell you that from Zich photo i see he knows whta to do and how tick wires to use I miss the ripped off PSU part in his photo only  What i do is to chose a single rail psu. Then all the connectors eps and pci and whatever is useful yellow and black are cut and so on Zich knows the story. Just thought I'd mention it so people don't go wiring up Blue -12v instead of Yellow +12v. |
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