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7361  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: April 25, 2017, 02:04:20 PM
Yes this is really a great idea having a bitcoin banks but we know that we use bitcoin wallet to store our bitcoins but if bitcoins in our bitcoins bank can make money or have a capital as time passes this can be a great idea and can be use like a investment but you need a high fund to advertise a lot to make bitcoin user's put there bitcoin in bitcoin banks.

It is a great idea for the adoption but our wallets is already serving as our banks. With this type of idea, we will be taxed by the bank and we will be charged for using their service. If this is going to happen, I will be glad that it is really happening but there's no way for me to use their service or maybe if I'm desperate in need of bitcoin.
Maybe there would be some people would definitely use bitcoin banks because they do like somehow security on their bitcoins but as you said it would really be charged by fees or taxed by putting it on banks which means it still useless and those banks are just making money out of it.Bitcoin banks is possible but surely only a few would really use their service and i would rather use my own wallet than using banks.
7362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: April 24, 2017, 02:09:26 PM
Delate account on this forum Smiley
Whats the connection of quiting gambling on deleting the account on this forum? Youre answer or comment is irrelevant related to the topic. Deletion of your account wont do nothing because even if you havent any account on this forum but you have account on gambling sites then it would be still the same story and you will end up on playing again thats why i dont see any relation on what you are saying here.
7363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: April 24, 2017, 12:31:33 PM
Hey! Good day i really need some answers because its about gambling in your life and other people are playing for it with heart and i just thought that how can gambling help you with your life? and do you gain something from it? does it help you to be wise or worst your attitude will change.. i need answers please!
Gambling can help your life if you are fortunate, patient, strategic, and smart. Otherwise, it can give you negative effects. In my life, gambling helps me to have a huge capital that I'm currently trading with crypto currency coins. It is the reason why I got hope in crypto currency despite of scams that tries to drag me down.
You are talking about trading which arent be the same on playing gambling since trading is really much better compare on gambling and also it doesnt really give help in our life since its just being designed purely for entertainment and should not be treated as money making machine for those who plays on it. Trading can possibly give these chances which you would earn constant or for longer terms as long you do already know what to do.
7364  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why trading is better than gambling? on: April 24, 2017, 11:00:32 AM
Hey! guys i need your opinion and help because i didn't know about this trading thing i only know about how you can earn bitcoin by gambling but still my friend told me that gambling is not the way to earn bitcoin but if you try trading you will earn much profit why is that so guys? trading is better than bitcoin? how? why? where to find that trading thing?

Well your friend is actually Right for saying that gambling is not a right place to earn or for making a profit , trading would be much better and you can actually make a profit from there but it still involves risk of loss so you really need to learn the systems of trading and improve your skills and strategies and you have many things to understand when it comes to trading .
Saying that gambling is not the right place to earn or for making profit is just like a trading you said since you can sure that it is much better but how you do that without enough knowledge and learning about bitcoin. It is same as gambling that being greedy will result a losing of money.

In addition, gambling is very risky because there will be a great possibility that instead of profiting from it, it will result in draining your money and that is what gambling stands. On the other hand, trading has its risks though nothing compared to the risk that gambling offers and also it is up between yourself and your buyer actually if they are trustworthy or not so the advice I can give you in trading is to be wise to choose who to trade with.
What do you mean a buyer or a person to deal with in a trade ? Trading is a person to person but not literally to deal with .Trading have a market or site on which you can buy and sell cryptocurrencies . Having your point out there in gambling was right but it depends on your playing activity on what was your reason to gamble.
We all know both are risky and trading takes a bit more time and you'll have to have a lot of patience to maximize your earnings. Yes in general gambling relies on luck mainly but if you vooae the type of gambling you're going to play, like for example you do sports bet, you probably have better or the same chance as trading but in a much shorter time
Trading and playing sports betting do really have similarities and you are right it does really need patience and analysis but both trading and sportsbet cant really be compared since they are on different category they might have risk but on different level thats was just my own opinion since i do already experience both things and i can say they are different.
7365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: April 23, 2017, 03:20:54 PM
I'm one of those who don't believe superstition when gambling I think it's just luck and they are just exaggerating luck but many around me also believe in superstitious things and are Involve to gambling when initially aimed at ancient traditions
It depends on us on how we can play gambling most of us are believing in superstition where they are thinking that it can bring them luck by thinking advantages too. Its kinda weird when others act too much that's like whats you thought too exaggerated for them to think advantage where the result is kinda awful.
Well lets respect on what they do believe because there are really people do believe such things which they are basing on their supertitious beliefs as long it doesnt hurt anybody then theres no wrong on following those things.We should mind our own business and should not criticize others beliefs but into myself i dont really believe on those things because it cant really contribute on how lucky i am.
7366  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What about the idea of a bitcoin shop in big cities? on: April 23, 2017, 01:42:30 PM
It's good to have shops in big cities that accept bitcoins. But I guess it's not a big deal anymore as it can be use only for making bitcoin as another option. And store owners aren't going to risk their businesses for a 'bitcoin only' shop. It could be good for us if they are going to do that and it's a good way of advertising bitcoin too.
yes i agree with you that  in big cities as the users of bitcoin will be more as compare to small and backward cities, but i think big cities are more expensive to start a new business, so you need to analyze your investment and then take a right decision

There's no need to invest in bitcoin, what does those store needs to do is not actually to invest in bitcoin. But they just need to accept bitcoin for payment, of course it's just an option and it will not be their main method for accepting payment. It's just going to make some good difference and application of bitcoin to their business.
If they accept it as payment, it means they are investing in it because they already have bitcoin. That's the same. They can support bitcoin by accepting that as mode of payment and being able to understand what it is. I hope that it could be applied with other businesses.

When they accept bitcoin, they face the risk of bitcoin fluctuations. Although bitcoin is trending steadily, it is still a big challenge for the store. If it collapses, the stores are likely to be hit hard, even bankrupt
Thats the common or main risk on accepting bitcoin as a store owner you will surely be included on the risk of getting bankrupt when bitcoins price tend to go down then profits or even capital would be wipe out but we cant say as of now since prices is still gradually increasing which means its a good time to adopt it but would really depend on store owners regarding on this situation.
7367  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin ETF on: April 23, 2017, 12:18:40 PM
I have read that the ETF was postponed, is it true?If yes, when it was postponed?

ETF? It is really old news now and despite any misleading information it won't be accepted by the Sec any time soon. They have time and time again rejected the approach for Bitcoins and the last time it was rejected their wordings were clear it won't be accepted ever. Just find the thread out here on this forum it was extensively discussed out here maybe if you find it, you can lock this thread.
This is really an old news already and ETF have been rejected by SEC which means government doesnt really have the intention to accept bitcoin.If they rejected already once then expected they would reject it on next. Theres no need to expect that bitcoin would be accepted rather just move on and accept the reality.ETF rejection does affect bitcoins price in the past which it dropped significantly but it does still recover or heal its price again which is expected to happen on bitcoins price.
7368  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Win/Lose Streak with Seed Reset? How to calculate? on: April 23, 2017, 11:16:21 AM
What?
If your bet with a 10% win chance, no matter what you do with the seed, it will always be 10% unless you set it to something else.


Sorry for typo, i rephrased it

In order to win 2 time in streak, the rate woulf be 10%*10% right?

In this case seed value doesn't affect the chance if i change during the second bet?

Thannks

Chance to roll will always be 10%
Chance to roll 2 rolls in row with 10% will be 1%, chance to roll 3 rolls in row will be 0.1% etc.

I will explain it with simple coin toss where is chance to roll head or tail always 50%.

Lets say you toss coin and result is head. That is 50% chance.
Now, if you toss again chance to hit heads or tail will still remain the same 50%, but chance to roll heads 2 times in row is 25%, 3 times in row is 12.5%, 4 times in row is 6.25%, 5 times in row 3.125% ETC(end within those percentage every time you have 50% chance).

It is simple math formula: probability=(1/2n)*100%  n=number of toss.

Or for your example probability=(1/10n)*100%   n=number of rolls.

 Shocked
Very nice calculation indeed and you are actually right no matter what would be the result it would still matter on the percentage you set. If its 10% then the next roll would be different if you tend to hit 2nd win on 10% chance.It doesnt really affect if you would reset the seed chances would be the same.Calculation is being posted already and im agree on this one.
7369  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: April 23, 2017, 09:31:08 AM
Two weeks ago I requested a withdrawal for 11.3 Bitcoins and I still haven't been paid.

http://imgur.com/a/pqD8N

Sorry to hear that, but have you tried to contact them? If you did it already then what is their answer? 11+btc is good amount, usually they need to do some investigation first for big withdrawal amount but two weeks is too long imho. Waiting for FJ to clarify about this issue.

After the first few emails they said it should be completed within a week. Now they just ask me to wait patiently with no information other than "We are contacting mutual investigation, and will update you soon."

Usually, I know that they will take around 10 days to clear these big wins but in your case, it is already more than 10 days. They should have finished their investigation and cleared your funds by now. Next time after you send an email to their support team, immediately post on this thread as well. So that they will take more seriously to clear your funds because everyone will be watching on the status.
Thats an effective way which admin and community would be aware on your situation and making complaints on this thread will surely be prioritized because they dont want for public to judge if they wont resolve such issue.
7370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it possible to sell dicing strategy? on: April 23, 2017, 08:48:56 AM
Yes its possible to sell dice site but you should think twice better keep it for yourself and i would like to ask on how much would be the cost on this strategy?
Dice strategies usually dont last long and most of them doesnt work at all better not to use it for long period dice sites will get those profits you made later on.
7371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to Turn Gambling into a Profitable Activity on: April 23, 2017, 05:00:24 AM
Well in my personal experience you can turn gambling into a profitable activity. if you will became the banker or a dealer also it will be a profitable activity if you happen to run, operate the gambling site.

Being a banker or a dealer of an online gambling site or casino, it will not ensure you any profit unless you owns the gambling site and many gambling addicts are gambling in your site or casino. A lot of gambling sites are now known for having their own uniqueness so if you will be owning one, better have a unique gambling site that gamblers will come back to everyday.
Well, owning a site will give you a good return and you deserve that because it is you who risk a big amount to start your business. But think about this, if you do not have a good capital to start on your own casino, you can make money and turn your gambling activity into a profitable one, investing in casinos are worth nowadays, especially that the value of bitcoin is surging now.
Having a site does really generate profits for sure but the risk involve is always there which means theres no guarantee but still better to have nothing at all and you are right you should really have enough capital to start on because if you dont have enough funds then establishing or creating a gambling site would be surely compromised. Gambling playing cant be trun out to be profitable activity since we do know the risk involve on it.
7372  Other / Archival / Re: Do you agree with idea "Bitcoin bank" ? on: April 22, 2017, 02:59:07 PM
I agree with the idea of bitcoin bank, with the bank then bitcoin bitcoin stored into a more safe and secure, otherwise it will create a bitcoin is legal and can be used in different transactions.
Yes, it is true that having a bank for bitcoins is very safe but I think that's unnecessary, I never want to bring money to others hold. I feel we keep our money is still the safest, when the bank accepts bitcoin, bitcoin will have tax, it will affect my income. Banks only make bitcoin transactions fast and convenient but it will limit the development of bitcoin. I believe the government also does not accept bitcoin because they can not control bitcoin, so idea Bitcoin bank will not happen
Its really unneccessary and thinking off that we do have lots of wallets online or offline which can be used on storing bitcoin which means bitcoin banks wont really be needed at all from the very first place and as you said government wont really allow such thing that there would be a bitcoin bank since they cant really benefit at all and no bitcoin user will surely use that bank if the plan have been imposted.
7373  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where should i hold my bitcoins on: April 21, 2017, 09:02:10 AM
Electrum would be the best choice for me and most members posted above since you do make use of that wallet on making transactions then this wallet would suit you and as suggested or adviced above you should keep up you keys phrase for security of the funds.You can still make use of web wallets for more convenience but only store up few amounts just right for your transactions.
7374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: April 21, 2017, 06:41:01 AM
Yes, even the small investment can make sense. All of us goes in small amount of investing in our first time. Just like the other said you could never start in big investment until you'll become rich.
Small amount of investment is just normal because it is the first stage.
For a start maybe, but if you will remain with your small investment through a period of time that is not advisable anymore
as clearly it is just a waste of time. Investing in gambling sites does not really offers great return if your investment is too small, bear in
mind that you only have a share on the profit but that depends on your total percentage of share.
to me i think if you are going to invest your money in gambling, then it is right to invest your small amount of money in gambling, but trading bitcoin or investing in bitcoin and specially for long time do not make any sense. i think you need to invest a good amount of bitcoin for long term investment.
Gambling is never an investment! Never ever it can always result into profits because you invested in gambling itself, big or small it is not a way to invest money into. If you guys are talking about investing in the casino itself, that is a different matter and this is more probable to earn than playing gambling itself.
Whatever you call it but that is based on the outcome not the activity online, if you are gambling and you make constant money then that would simply mean you are investing. I know some people are making good money in gambling and I can say they are investing in that situation, but only few so we cannot follow their path if we do not have the skills.
On some games there are people do really make constant profits or winnings just like on card games but it isnt guarantee to make money on daily basis but majority they are on profits its possible but on a very rare situation and its not an investment for me because you would really need to exert effort in able to make money and we know speaking of investment we dont need to move too much.
7375  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Which one is better? Forex or crypto currency trading? on: April 20, 2017, 02:16:22 PM
In Forex trading, If you have big capital than you can make profit from Forex. Otherwise, if you use little amount in Forex than definitely i will tell you, you could loss your whole amount. Also in Forex, we could try to practice in demo account, it help us to learn about how to profit and recover the loss.
But in crypto currency trading, we could do it with littler capital.
But both are risky, also the main different is in Forex, we could make big profit from it, but in crypto it made for little profit.
We can still make big profits out of crypto trading does really depend on which coin you would buy and its volatility and i agree on what you have said forex does really require huge some of money for you would able to start but i would tell you no matter how big it is if you dont know how to trade then its better not to engage to forex because market will easily eat you up in no time and would burn your account.
7376  Economy / Gambling / Re: Corruptible CS:GO Game on: April 20, 2017, 01:47:52 PM
You can invest 50$ for example and bet 100$. With an odd around 2x you get a good profit easily. Its other thing if u bet 300$.
On the other question, this is stable tram formation and they cant kick him. There are only good players and if there is no teamwork the team fails. This is e-sports guys. Smiley
If the Op is telling the truth then I am sure that his friend is well aware of all consequences of throwing a match.
No one will be so stupid to throw a match for couple hundreds dollars, when prospect of longer career is an eventuality.
So I expect this is some 3rd grade team, already doomed to lose all the matches they play, so the odds would be really bad.
Thats what im thinking too on which hes friend might belong to a third tier type of tournament because sabotaging a particular game on $500 isnt to convincing for me thats hes a good player and he must be on the top tier and paying up for fixed matches are too risky we wont know if he would sabotage or not because plans will really change or shall we say he does have plan with other guys want him to win the game. How about that?
Yes he is not a top tier player but I am ensuring u the odds are going to be good. if we successfully get the money to give him. Its very simple because I know the guy from a long long time.
That would really be hard if you just state here that you know that guy for a very long and you are sure that we can make money.You are not minding on showing some stats of games of your friends which would somehow convince us to your story and might help you out but now you are just telling this idea without strong proofs or visuals then it would be hard.
7377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do any people gamble under the age of 18? on: April 20, 2017, 01:42:34 PM
Yes nowadays young teenagers who is below 18 is knowledgeable about different type of gambling most likely you will see them in an illegal gambling are or places because policy and rules im am illegal gambling area is not that strict.
Its not surprising anymore since this moves are normally being done by people who do love to gamble and they would normally go to places which gambling isnt too strict or not been prohibited and speaking with children they are really expose into it since we can access gambling in a matter of clicks of our phone or computer as long theres an internet then they do really have the access.
7378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Quit Gambling for Good, think for your loved ones on: April 20, 2017, 01:24:46 PM
Hi everyone, want to share my story here, I was once a gambler that I can gamble big amount of money in one day, I have this thinking that maybe I can make a living off gambling and get rich. I won big before but I lost back on the other day too.

And once you lost, you will try to recover back your lost amount and from there, the snowball just keep rolling, and you find yourself in bad mood everyday as you will keep on depositing all your savings and always hoping to recover back your loss. I have seen too many people losing big amount of money in Bitcoin Gambling.

Think for your family, your parents, your loved ones, your wife or kids, they love you, do not let gambling ruin your life, many people are always thinking they will win big from gambling and get rich in one night.

It happens, but out of 10000 people, maybe just 1 person are that lucky to really win a huge amount of money for him to retire.

Human concept always look at the lucky guy and envy him and thinking they will be the next him, but out of 10000 people, 9999 people have lost big, so why do you want to hurt yourself and your loved ones.

I am not trying to change people mind here, I just hope I can help some people that are addicted to gambling.

Life is good and wonderful, do not get yourself stuck in front of the pc everyday rolling dice and even you win big today, you will still lose back in other day, money that come fast go away fast too.

Don't let gambling ruin your life, many of you are still young and have a good future ahead. That's all Cheesy


According to my assessment, some of your statement are correct but there's only one thing that I want to clarify which is Gambling ruin you life. I think it is just a tools to ruin life of each gambler or player in the gambling sites. If the individual player/gambler will not allow gambling to control what they are, maybe ruin life others will not going to be happen. BUt once we allow it and we become neglectful no doubt our lives will ruin by it.
Agree it shouldnt be generalize since gambling is just a game it depends really on a certain person on how he gonna handle himself in times when gambling addiction strikes him.Hes responsible through his actions thats why there are gamblers who got broke badly and there are some who can avoid such situation and some could able to recover after a huge lose money on his life.
7379  Economy / Services / Re: Earn $1000s PLUS a month on FOREX - Trade Copier join for $200 One time Fee on: April 20, 2017, 12:04:25 PM
So why hasn't anyone of his buyers (if they were actual buyers) posted here to say explicitly they were unhappy with the service or that they got scammed? I certainly wouldn't invest in this but maybe OP still has some tricks up his sleeve?

I think, I clearly stated it in here
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1664883.msg17785366#msg17785366
No one become millionaire even no one have money back which lost in this I am also one of victim because I lost some good amount now have no updates even slack page is also lost all activity we can say big lost for all of us which was member of this group  Sad
Oh finally an investor have said his experience related on this service and now he confirmed that most of them do lose huge amounts of money thats why i didnt tried to put money on here because forex is really risky and doing copying of signals of trades doesnt really a sure thing that would make us millionaires in no time. Experience does really matter and if you just keep following then nothing would change.
7380  Economy / Gambling / Re: Corruptible CS:GO Game on: April 20, 2017, 10:58:15 AM
You can invest 50$ for example and bet 100$. With an odd around 2x you get a good profit easily. Its other thing if u bet 300$.
On the other question, this is stable tram formation and they cant kick him. There are only good players and if there is no teamwork the team fails. This is e-sports guys. Smiley
If the Op is telling the truth then I am sure that his friend is well aware of all consequences of throwing a match.
No one will be so stupid to throw a match for couple hundreds dollars, when prospect of longer career is an eventuality.
So I expect this is some 3rd grade team, already doomed to lose all the matches they play, so the odds would be really bad.
Thats what im thinking too on which hes friend might belong to a third tier type of tournament because sabotaging a particular game on $500 isnt to convincing for me thats hes a good player and he must be on the top tier and paying up for fixed matches are too risky we wont know if he would sabotage or not because plans will really change or shall we say he does have plan with other guys want him to win the game. How about that?
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