The rough start before the coin even launched just gives it more of the feel of a coin from the past. Not a good sign. Also, the fact they are launching a "gaming" coin with no games is not smart at all. This is the same situation as XPY, absolutely ZERO utility. Without the games, what is the point of ION?
The evidence of how poorly planned out this project is becomes more apparent every day. With no games the price is just gonna drop, and son the ICO investors will be screwed out of even more money.
Was it stated in the white paper that no games would be available upon launch? Was it stated anywhere in the ICO promotions that games for this "gaming" coin would not be available at launch? This all is super shady, but expected by this team of nice guys.
It was never stated anywhere that games would be available upon launch of the coin. But you seem to be very excited, you want everything on day one of the coin launch? What is the point in launching a coin to be used in mobile games without any mobile games to use them on? Now that we can see some action, why let's play with the blockchain. Is there a point to the "nonstandard" 0 coin transactions on early blocks? Will they screw things up later on down the line? Why are these POW coins being split to so many addresses already? The OP said there were to be 5 million coins offered in the ICO, it didn't appear to sell 5 million coins, yet all 10,900,000 coins were minted anyway. Where are the leftovers? What will be done with them? What is the purpose to the 3 addresses with over 2 million coins already? the next 4 with over 200k? Their block explorer seems to be broken or at least very very dumb. For example this block: https://ionchain.com/block/18a797b7e03b669de456791a65425e38cd5b823441623f59208b6e281dbf16b6Doesn't have a POS block reward. Are they still running POW? Also not quite clear how to see which nodes are masternodes. There are ~20 addresses with 20k+ in them, e.g. https://ionchain.com/address/iUXBabuEA5vogPJdq8pRzJYsSRDuQJm1aKOne thing for sure - they are staking all coins, no cold storage: https://ionchain.com/address/imR1kCRvFdTao2LrYoWJoFL7dMgnKm5p8Shttps://ionchain.com/address/intRqDSfoXtf4s35VRqyqtCMafYnXfAAruhttps://ionchain.com/address/ih4X5nhzYVi6Nd4tcGX1qvtC47dzdThZV8https://ionchain.com/address/iU5GKr6ARyGHLMsSnQ4DCm6Zk9eQRKrQfZetc. ITs POW till block 2000. Just to make sure the chains moves. I dont know about storage. To see Masternodes you need to download the QT. This is my blockexplorer its just a modified Iquidus Explorer I did not spend to much time working on it besides getting it up. If it's yours you might have some info. Why are some of the POW blocks not minting and rewards? Is this a mistake on the explorer, a mistake in the coin code, or part of the design? If part of the design what is the purpose? I am assuming they made it that the POW phase produces 0 block reward. I would look at the source code to see really why. The Iquidus Explorer only shows blocks that have transactions in them. So a a block with 0.0 transactions which includes new coin or pos/pow it will not display that block. So till the POW phase is moved over i guess we will see a few blocks not show up. (Trust me i was like WTF when i started this up lastnight) Several of the blocks have "minted" 23 coins, which appears to be a POW reward since the total coin supply is higher than the 10,900,000 premine. Just trying to figure out if there is any rhyme or reason to which blocks have a reward, and where they are going. if you click on a block. It will tell you if its the coins generate where from POS or POW. Ah, didn't know that, and didn't think to check that because POS wasn't supposed to start until block 2000. Can't find any now, but I'm pretty sure I saw some blocks that said "mint 23" after clicking on the "i" similarly to how block 1 minted 10,900,000 coins. The latest 23 coin transactions appear to be POS rewards (even though we aren't at block 2000) and don't have the word "mint" after you click on the "i." What the hell is going on? |
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The rough start before the coin even launched just gives it more of the feel of a coin from the past. Not a good sign. Also, the fact they are launching a "gaming" coin with no games is not smart at all. This is the same situation as XPY, absolutely ZERO utility. Without the games, what is the point of ION?
The evidence of how poorly planned out this project is becomes more apparent every day. With no games the price is just gonna drop, and son the ICO investors will be screwed out of even more money.
Was it stated in the white paper that no games would be available upon launch? Was it stated anywhere in the ICO promotions that games for this "gaming" coin would not be available at launch? This all is super shady, but expected by this team of nice guys.
It was never stated anywhere that games would be available upon launch of the coin. But you seem to be very excited, you want everything on day one of the coin launch? What is the point in launching a coin to be used in mobile games without any mobile games to use them on? Now that we can see some action, why let's play with the blockchain. Is there a point to the "nonstandard" 0 coin transactions on early blocks? Will they screw things up later on down the line? Why are these POW coins being split to so many addresses already? The OP said there were to be 5 million coins offered in the ICO, it didn't appear to sell 5 million coins, yet all 10,900,000 coins were minted anyway. Where are the leftovers? What will be done with them? What is the purpose to the 3 addresses with over 2 million coins already? the next 4 with over 200k? Their block explorer seems to be broken or at least very very dumb. For example this block: https://ionchain.com/block/18a797b7e03b669de456791a65425e38cd5b823441623f59208b6e281dbf16b6Doesn't have a POS block reward. Are they still running POW? Also not quite clear how to see which nodes are masternodes. There are ~20 addresses with 20k+ in them, e.g. https://ionchain.com/address/iUXBabuEA5vogPJdq8pRzJYsSRDuQJm1aKOne thing for sure - they are staking all coins, no cold storage: https://ionchain.com/address/imR1kCRvFdTao2LrYoWJoFL7dMgnKm5p8Shttps://ionchain.com/address/intRqDSfoXtf4s35VRqyqtCMafYnXfAAruhttps://ionchain.com/address/ih4X5nhzYVi6Nd4tcGX1qvtC47dzdThZV8https://ionchain.com/address/iU5GKr6ARyGHLMsSnQ4DCm6Zk9eQRKrQfZetc. ITs POW till block 2000. Just to make sure the chains moves. I dont know about storage. To see Masternodes you need to download the QT. This is my blockexplorer its just a modified Iquidus Explorer I did not spend to much time working on it besides getting it up. If it's yours you might have some info. Why are some of the POW blocks not minting and rewards? Is this a mistake on the explorer, a mistake in the coin code, or part of the design? If part of the design what is the purpose? I am assuming they made it that the POW phase produces 0 block reward. I would look at the source code to see really why. The Iquidus Explorer only shows blocks that have transactions in them. So a a block with 0.0 transactions which includes new coin or pos/pow it will not display that block. So till the POW phase is moved over i guess we will see a few blocks not show up. (Trust me i was like WTF when i started this up lastnight) Several of the blocks have "minted" 23 coins, which appears to be a POW reward since the total coin supply is higher than the 10,900,000 premine. Just trying to figure out if there is any rhyme or reason to which blocks have a reward, and where they are going. |
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The rough start before the coin even launched just gives it more of the feel of a coin from the past. Not a good sign. Also, the fact they are launching a "gaming" coin with no games is not smart at all. This is the same situation as XPY, absolutely ZERO utility. Without the games, what is the point of ION?
The evidence of how poorly planned out this project is becomes more apparent every day. With no games the price is just gonna drop, and son the ICO investors will be screwed out of even more money.
Was it stated in the white paper that no games would be available upon launch? Was it stated anywhere in the ICO promotions that games for this "gaming" coin would not be available at launch? This all is super shady, but expected by this team of nice guys.
It was never stated anywhere that games would be available upon launch of the coin. But you seem to be very excited, you want everything on day one of the coin launch? What is the point in launching a coin to be used in mobile games without any mobile games to use them on? Now that we can see some action, why let's play with the blockchain. Is there a point to the "nonstandard" 0 coin transactions on early blocks? Will they screw things up later on down the line? Why are these POW coins being split to so many addresses already? The OP said there were to be 5 million coins offered in the ICO, it didn't appear to sell 5 million coins, yet all 10,900,000 coins were minted anyway. Where are the leftovers? What will be done with them? What is the purpose to the 3 addresses with over 2 million coins already? the next 4 with over 200k? Their block explorer seems to be broken or at least very very dumb. For example this block: https://ionchain.com/block/18a797b7e03b669de456791a65425e38cd5b823441623f59208b6e281dbf16b6Doesn't have a POS block reward. Are they still running POW? Also not quite clear how to see which nodes are masternodes. There are ~20 addresses with 20k+ in them, e.g. https://ionchain.com/address/iUXBabuEA5vogPJdq8pRzJYsSRDuQJm1aKOne thing for sure - they are staking all coins, no cold storage: https://ionchain.com/address/imR1kCRvFdTao2LrYoWJoFL7dMgnKm5p8Shttps://ionchain.com/address/intRqDSfoXtf4s35VRqyqtCMafYnXfAAruhttps://ionchain.com/address/ih4X5nhzYVi6Nd4tcGX1qvtC47dzdThZV8https://ionchain.com/address/iU5GKr6ARyGHLMsSnQ4DCm6Zk9eQRKrQfZetc. ITs POW till block 2000. Just to make sure the chains moves. I dont know about storage. To see Masternodes you need to download the QT. This is my blockexplorer its just a modified Iquidus Explorer I did not spend to much time working on it besides getting it up. If it's yours you might have some info. Why are some of the POW blocks not minting and rewards? Is this a mistake on the explorer, a mistake in the coin code, or part of the design? If part of the design what is the purpose? |
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I do not see your point.
You disagree that losing 6 figures to Gaw makes you stupid, that's your opinion. I think that's relevant to this thread, and apparently the moderators do also since they came by last night and deleted one of your vulgar posts and my response to it.
Stop being a hero and let the thread take it's course. No one cares about your thoughts on the rules. You have claimed falsely that nothing was being discussed here, but that shows you aren't reading the thread, because lots of stuff about ION, which is the point of this thread, gets discussed when you aren't here. Stop posting about the rules, if you have a problem, get lost or push report.
We have plenty of questions about ION and we are going to post them here and discuss them how we or the moderators see fit.
I am not the hero, I have my opinion and will build it on my own, I do not care if you care about me at all, why do you care about me? I agree to the suggestion what about we should discuss here and if suchmoons means GAW thread is wrong place, then I agree, this would be correct one, otherwise no, it clearly is against the rules to post same thing 1000 times in different threads, ie. if you said that somebody is an idiot, link an post to it instead of saying it again. But lol, no rule discussion anymore, you are right, I will discuss my points with the thread mod and if I am not happy I'll continue asking, not worth to bother with me at all  , just do not threat me like you do with so many here. I am very happy that both posts have been removed which shows us that moderation is there and that there are rules for everybody, about everbody, we will see tooday. Stop libeling me, I have never threatened anyone. I don't care about you at all, I care about you posting misinformation and that misinformation causing other people to lose money. So when you post something false, i will correct it. Adam Matlack claims to have lost 6 figures in the GAW scam. He is the developer of this coin. If that statement is true he is not smart enough to run this coin and it's a bad investment. This has been shown to be a correct line of thinking by having to restart the blockchain and missing the the announced date of May 16 to distribute the coins. |
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I do not see your point.
You disagree that losing 6 figures to Gaw makes you stupid, that's your opinion. I think that's relevant to this thread, and apparently the moderators do also since they came by last night and deleted one of your vulgar posts and my response to it.
Stop being a hero and let the thread take it's course. No one cares about your thoughts on the rules. You have claimed falsely that nothing was being discussed here, but that shows you aren't reading the thread, because lots of stuff about ION, which is the point of this thread, gets discussed when you aren't here. Stop posting about the rules, if you have a problem, get lost or push report.
We have plenty of questions about ION and we are going to post them here and discuss them how we or the moderators see fit.
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The rough start before the coin even launched just gives it more of the feel of a coin from the past. Not a good sign. Also, the fact they are launching a "gaming" coin with no games is not smart at all. This is the same situation as XPY, absolutely ZERO utility. Without the games, what is the point of ION?
The evidence of how poorly planned out this project is becomes more apparent every day. With no games the price is just gonna drop, and son the ICO investors will be screwed out of even more money.
Was it stated in the white paper that no games would be available upon launch? Was it stated anywhere in the ICO promotions that games for this "gaming" coin would not be available at launch? This all is super shady, but expected by this team of nice guys.
It was never stated anywhere that games would be available upon launch of the coin. But you seem to be very excited, you want everything on day one of the coin launch? What is the point in launching a coin to be used in mobile games without any mobile games to use them on? Now that we can see some action, why let's play with the blockchain. Is there a point to the "nonstandard" 0 coin transactions on early blocks? Will they screw things up later on down the line? Why are these POW coins being split to so many addresses already? The OP said there were to be 5 million coins offered in the ICO, it didn't appear to sell 5 million coins, yet all 10,900,000 coins were minted anyway. Where are the leftovers? What will be done with them? What is the purpose to the 3 addresses with over 2 million coins already? the next 4 with over 200k? |
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I think we need someone with a better grasp of the english language to be the deputy forum police. It's pretty clear that he was comparing your forum policing/distracting from actual issues about ION to people who were paid by Josh Garza to do the same in the GAW thread.
To keep things on topic Wildshark, where did that post come from and where can we witness this "live" ion blockchain in all of it's glory?
Now again an stupid assumption , @suchmoon please confirm that you mean exactly what is stated by Phildo, lol. You assume that I am payed  , I am waiting for your evidence IamSoMrSmart What about you? Payed by or anybody to post anything? Anywhere? What about you investing into xpy, did you invest ? How much did you loose? What about ion? You deny to answer if you have an account or not, even not if you invested into ion, did you? Me investing in xpy is definitely off topic for this thread, since I have nothing to do with the development of ION, please stay on topic. Besides being off topic, I have already answered that question in this thread, wouldn't want to be accused of spamming. Anyone seen this live blockchain? |
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Y U FUDDER @Boki15?
"Soon" Ions will become protons and then atoms and then totally go FISSION!
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I hope they take precautions inside the stakers to make sure there is no accidental fission, the fallout will be disastrous. |
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I think we need someone with a better grasp of the english language to be the deputy forum police. It's pretty clear that he was comparing your forum policing/distracting from actual issues about ION to people who were paid by Josh Garza to do the same in the GAW thread.
To keep things on topic Wildshark, where did that post come from and where can we witness this "live" ion blockchain in all of it's glory?
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Can you show me where this deadline is. I want to be able to show them that they messed up...
Get Ready. The ion ICO has now completed and the the ION blockchain is live. Within the next 12 hours we will be uploading the source code to the github repository (found here: https://github.com/ionomy/ion) and activating the wallet download page on ionomy.com. Following the wallet release, the ionomy.com team will be processing the bonus Stakers from Atoms, enabling the exchange, Staker deposits, and activating the withdrawal and deposit systems. Expected time to complete is 8 to 12 hours post wallet launch to ensure all systems are available and functioning. Notifcations will go out for both the Wallet release and Coin distribution, separately. We advise users who would like to begin staking locally to download their wallet in advance and sync the blockchain. This will ensure everybody is ready to begin staking their ICO coins immediately on their local system, should they choose. Get in touch. Have questions? Contact us at support@ionomy.com, or visit our slack channel. The slack invite form can be found at slack.ionomy.com. Simply follow the instructions in your invite email to join the conversation! Hmm, what to believe this, or the popup you get when you try to download the wallet that says Wallet download will become available after coin launch.
Please check back soon. I feel bad for the people who aren't going to be able to sync and start their wallets as soon as the others due to the unannounced time frames everything will take place in. I hope it doesn't cost anyone too many coins. |
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Is there an actual point to this 2000 first blocks being mined in total secret?
Will this generate coins that they will claim are "not a premine?"
where are the coins for the ICO coming from?
I guess I could be a little positive and say that at least they figured out whatever mistake they just discovered before it was able to do any damage, but not being able to get the coin started on deadline is telling, even if it was for the right reasons.
Can you show me where this deadline is. I want to be able to show them that they messed up... You are correct, I didn't realize that the deadline laid out on the roadmap was the 14th, I took team ion people saying the coins would be out today at their word, which I guess I should have known was silly. Are you a different Jason than the one Matlack mentioned? If you are the same Jason, what were the adjustments that were made? |
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Is there an actual point to this 2000 first blocks being mined in total secret?
Will this generate coins that they will claim are "not a premine?"
where are the coins for the ICO coming from?
I guess I could be a little positive and say that at least they figured out whatever mistake they just discovered before it was able to do any damage, but not being able to get the coin started on deadline is telling, even if it was for the right reasons.
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The only rule i break is posting multiple times in a row. I do that when I quote multiple posts at a time, and no mod has ever said anything because I don't have a sig campaign. I will refrain from doing that to keep your panties unbunched.
People have accused me of trolling before, for calling out scams that were obvious to me and all ended up being scams, so if that's why you quoted the rules, you are the one he is posting off topic, and you are keeping some excellent company like all the genius investors of successful companies like Neo and bee, Active Mining, GAW, BFL, and so on.
Back on topic.
Adam Matlack is a developer of ION. Adam Matlack either lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in Paycoin, or was heavily involved in the scam. In one situation he is too stupid to successfully run a coin, in the other he is too scummy. Invest at your own peril.
Hey listen my friend, I am really not telling you how to behave or which rules to follow or what to do, like suchmoon was telling me or any other preacher on bitcointalk and there are many, trust me . You do not need to excuse yourself for your doings here or where you break rules. I am very happy that my posting in this useless thread at least had something postitive, an bitcointalk member will use better this forum from now on. @ionomy team If you do not take care about this thread, I will ask moderation to lock it until you publicly decide if you want to be represented here or not, which for sure does not exclude if someone who can take care about an thread opens a new one, maybe selfmoderated would be best. I am not getting to moderate it for you like it seems to happen currently, only bitcointalk members discuss with each other, no sign of ionomy and it slipps off, getting into offtopic. Members do not follow bitcointalk rules and nobody will remind anybody of anything if there is no thread moderation and you really cant expect bitcointalks mod to look over and moderate, its not his/her job. There is no reason for this thread to be locked. This is to announce the ION coin, and even though the ICO was supposed to end today, no coins have been distributed due to the competence we have been trying to warn people about. And even after those coins are released, it is still common for the thread to stay open for further discussion of the coin. And your posts have actually been completely useless because I will continue my regular posting style elsewhere, I just didn't want to give you in your duty of deputy forum police anything to whine about here. The only rule i break is posting multiple times in a row. I do that when I quote multiple posts at a time, and no mod has ever said anything because I don't have a sig campaign. I will refrain from doing that to keep your panties unbunched.
People have accused me of trolling before, for calling out scams that were obvious to me and all ended up being scams, so if that's why you quoted the rules, you are the one he is posting off topic, and you are keeping some excellent company like all the genius investors of successful companies like Neo and bee, Active Mining, GAW, BFL, and so on.
Back on topic.
Adam Matlack is a developer of ION. Adam Matlack either lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in Paycoin, or was heavily involved in the scam. In one situation he is too stupid to successfully run a coin, in the other he is too scummy. Invest at your own peril.
Don't forget that right after he got scammed out of hundreds of thousands of dollars he became business partners with Garza's number 2 guy, who knew about the fake mining and lied to all the customers for weeks on end. Not really sure which one is worse. No need to debate which one is worse, they all point rational people to making the right decision about the viability of this coin. |
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XPY constantly had blockchain issues did it not? ION was supposed to launch and they see be having the same type of issues. It feel very eerily like the same exact thing all over again.
Is there reqlly much difference between the two?
No blatantly obvious lies about a floor or partnerships for ION. that's about all I can come up with. |
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The only rule i break is posting multiple times in a row. I do that when I quote multiple posts at a time, and no mod has ever said anything because I don't have a sig campaign. I will refrain from doing that to keep your panties unbunched.
People have accused me of trolling before, for calling out scams that were obvious to me and all ended up being scams, so if that's why you quoted the rules, you are the one he is posting off topic, and you are keeping some excellent company like all the genius investors of successful companies like Neo and bee, Active Mining, GAW, BFL, and so on.
Back on topic.
Adam Matlack is a developer of ION. Adam Matlack either lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in Paycoin, or was heavily involved in the scam. In one situation he is too stupid to successfully run a coin, in the other he is too scummy. Invest at your own peril.
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If you have a problem with my posts, report them to the mods. You saying that Matlack's past has nothing to do with the purpose of this thread does absolutely nothing to me except make me question your intelligence, but I will not speak any further on that since that is definitely off topic for ionomy (unless you are a developer for the coin)
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No, I don't agree. This thread is about ionomy. Matlack is involved in ionomy. Matlack was HEAVILY involved in the failure that is paycoin. I will repeat it over and over again in hopes that some newcomer who has never heard of paycoin knows exactly who they are getting into business with.
This thread is about ionomy - Mattlack was heavily involved in the failure of paycoin [-] => only assumption => offtopic, has to do with an project called paycoin, GAW thread is an place where it is ontopic too. Where now??? One place please! You will repeat it over and over - => which will be over and over only assumtipon until proven and you will be over and over offtopic. If these guys would at least know how to moderate .... I assume your luck they dont
I have no troubles if you post it here, we only needed an clarification what is here ontopic and what is offtopic. Paycion/GAW is offtopic for me in this thread, for suchmoon ionomy is ontopic in GAW thread, why are you confused then? That is certainly not an assumption. He is on record as saying he lost money to garza. He was a member of the paycoin foundation. he worked with Joe Mordica after it was known that the data center was fraudulent. If you can't see how these things are relevant to Matlack's character and knowledge and how that impacts the viability of ION, that's fine, but it is most certainly on topic, and will be brought up by me. |
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No, I don't agree. This thread is about ionomy. Matlack is involved in ionomy. Matlack was HEAVILY involved in the failure that is paycoin. I will repeat it over and over again in hopes that some newcomer who has never heard of paycoin knows exactly who they are getting into business with.
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This thread has only with IoN to do and everything paycoin related is offtopic however you twist it. That these two stories have commons or anything like that, is not making an ontopic of it. Actually announcements on bitcointalk should include mainly technical information and not be pretty.
ION is lead by the team that ran XPY.io. Paycoins of XPY.io users (and other paycoin holders) were "exchanged" into ION. Adam Matlack, one of the leaders of ION, worked with GAW's CTO Joe Mordica, who lied to the public about a mining farm that did not exist. These are historical facts and they are very much on topic here - I understand that you would rather have them forgotten, but I don't see this happening. The ION blockchain will be watched thoroughly for any shady Paycoin style attempts to scam more money out of gullible cryptocurrency newbies. Lies, deception and intransparency will be reported on. The Paycoin stink will not wash off of ION easily. So behave. Crying for censorship makes you look even more suspicious. Sure, I only hope you will do it way better than you did when you dreamed about adam by posting "his" pic. Lol, are you sure that you speak about adam, not joe? Just asking, maybe you are still confused. Historical facts or not, if you talk to something that was connected to one project, it is offtopic to discuss is in another project. Can you define what offtopic is and what ontopic is. We can use bitcointalks rules as an start, I think this is the way of how we could agree on what on and what offtopic is. I think this all is ontopic in GAW thread where suchmoon stated so. Why do you spread information everywhere, why dont you concentrate in one thread? Of course it is offtopic here, or do you think we need for every thread 100 copies of it ? And as last, you only discuss with yourself and neither joe nor adam are here to reply/defend themself. It's their choice not to defend themselves in this thread that they or their people started here. It doesn't matter what you say, Matlack's knowledge/competency of cryptocurrency is VERY relevant to the discussion of this coin, and his history with paycoin is a large part of that. |
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TOTAL SOLD 2,738,599 IONs
x 0.20$ = 547,619$  I don't think it's that much. I think the 2,738,599 includes the xpy exchange. Since this is crypto and all it would be trivially simple to show on a blockchain exactly how much of what coin they took in, but they can't/won't do that for reasons. |
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