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741  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NRS] NoirShares Listed on PoloniEX, coming soon to NoirEX on: March 16, 2014, 12:23:08 AM

There is no real minimum but to see actual returns from you investment i suggest 1000 NRS as the floor. which is 10 PTS or 0.1 BTC

Unless I am misunderstanding you this would push the value of NRS down.  For people that want to invest you are encouraging them to dump their NRS at a lower price to get BTC and then send that in to you to get shares.  Exchange rates fluctuate but I would think NRS would get a better value towards shares. 

Otherwise there is going to be more downward pressure on the NRS price outside of the dumping that is already occurring at times. 



if you look at market depth , the actual buy support is around those rates. there have been temporary spikes which have raised the price but the actual buy support behind them is minor. I encourage people to invest according to their wishes. While giving preferential rates would make NRS holders happy, it would not benefit them economically speaking. The rates is et are based on actual market depth at the time, i will re-calculate in a few hours though i doubt this has changed much, the crypto exchanges seem to be fairly stable for now.
742  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NoirShares Trade on PoloniEX, Noir Investment Options Open on: March 15, 2014, 11:06:09 PM
those that miss the weighted share period should not complain, i will never go back on that. Those that have invested have shown immense trust in me and i will not change the deal on them.
743  Economy / Goods / Re: Bitcoin ATM Cards on: March 15, 2014, 09:04:43 PM
nice
744  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NoirShares Trade on PoloniEX, Noir Investment Options Open on: March 15, 2014, 08:46:28 PM
please pm me when you send an investment with tx details. thanks
745  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] NoirShares Trade on PoloniEX, Noir Investment Options Open on: March 15, 2014, 08:07:47 PM
That's great!
I'll invest 0.5BTC later.

Maybe the last question: why do you distinguish the shareholders by 1 share? or what difference will the certified,stamped share make?

Every company must issue shares so tangible proof starts at 1 share. Beacuse it's stamped and verified, you can use it as leverage or security, it is proof of ownership. kind of like a title deed wouldn't you say?  I'ts incontestable proof that you invested and is valid until you sell your share.
746  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NRS] NoirShares Listed on PoloniEX, coming soon to NoirEX on: March 15, 2014, 07:29:02 PM
this is a perpetual investment in weighted shares, you'll always get a nice "crunch" when you bite into the NIG profits.
747  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NRS] NoirShares Listed on PoloniEX, coming soon to NoirEX on: March 15, 2014, 07:27:35 PM
There is no real minimum but to see actual returns from you investment i suggest 1000 NRS as the floor. which is 10 PTS or 0.1 BTC

I'm very interested.

So basically, 1000NRS=10PTS=0.1BTC=0.1Share, right ? 
The preferred minimum is 1000NRS or 0.1 share.   What's the difference between 0.X share and 1.X shares?
I saw the only stakeholder with 1.6share marked by  "Share cert  Yes".

And how will the investor get profit ?  How long does it mean for a "long-term" investment?

Thank you for your interest

Please read the documents in the OP.

Full shareholders ( 1 and above) will get actual share certificates certified, signed and stamped.
Sorry, I can't understand well.
How about the investor with less than 1 share ? 
will they also get the same profit (compare to their investment)?

yes they will get proportional returns. if 1 share is reaping a bitcoin, then 0.1 will reap 0.1 BTC in profit

748  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NRS] NoirShares Listed on PoloniEX, coming soon to NoirEX on: March 15, 2014, 06:31:32 PM
There is no real minimum but to see actual returns from you investment i suggest 1000 NRS as the floor. which is 10 PTS or 0.1 BTC

I'm very interested.

So basically, 1000NRS=10PTS=0.1BTC=0.1Share, right ? 
The preferred minimum is 1000NRS or 0.1 share.   What's the difference between 0.X share and 1.X shares?
I saw the only stakeholder with 1.6share marked by  "Share cert  Yes".

And how will the investor get profit ?  How long does it mean for a "long-term" investment?

Thank you for your interest

Please read the documents in the OP.

Full shareholders ( 1 and above) will get actual share certificates certified, signed and stamped.
749  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NRS] NoirShares Listed on PoloniEX, coming soon to NoirEX on: March 15, 2014, 06:27:23 PM
General Fund Public Investor Ledger

Here you can view your investment. If anyone has questions, i'll be glad to answer, easiet and quickest way is on skype :- barwizi.

Pocket has taken a temp job @ PR, if anyone is against his employment, please say so, as investors it is your right to choose who will be in charge of making your investments grow.

What's the purpose of NRS if you accept BTC and PTS as investments?  I thought NRS is the equity in NIG?  I'm not sure I understand the purpose of NRS.  

NIG is the top company or management company of the funds and NRS is the equity in NIG?

That's a very narrow view don't you think? The Management is handled by NIG subject to investors.

If you've considered all the information i have shared with you, does it seem feasible to work with the preferred one only? Once we expand to the counterparty platform we'll have XCP as an option.
.

No reason to get offended, I'm really just asking questions.  Does holding NRS give me equity in anything?

i'm not offended, sorry if my reply was curt. But seriously allowing just the one currency is a narrow line of thought. Holding NRS vs investing are two different things. Invested NRS give you dividends, holding NRS on the other hand gives you % in DACs and coins we'll release later, either as a group or if we are hired to do it for someone else.

As i mention in the Investment document, I encourage diverse IOP, you can add holding NRS to that. Look at it this way, 1 Share in NIG right now already has you pegged to get rewards from the mining cluster, in a few weeks it'll be the cluster + exchange profits. A month or two after that you can add NoirStore. That list will continue growing.

On the other hand if we release a new DAC if you are holding NRS you get a % right from the start. But a person who is holding and invested gets two slices from that nice cake.
750  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NRS] NoirShares Listed on PoloniEX, coming soon to NoirEX on: March 15, 2014, 06:00:43 PM
General Fund Public Investor Ledger

Here you can view your investment. If anyone has questions, i'll be glad to answer, easiet and quickest way is on skype :- barwizi.

Pocket has taken a temp job @ PR, if anyone is against his employment, please say so, as investors it is your right to choose who will be in charge of making your investments grow.

What's the purpose of NRS if you accept BTC and PTS as investments?  I thought NRS is the equity in NIG?  I'm not sure I understand the purpose of NRS.  

NIG is the top company or management company of the funds and NRS is the equity in NIG?

That's a very narrow view don't you think? The Management is handled by NIG subject to investors.

If you've considered all the information i have shared with you, does it seem feasible to work with the preferred one only? Once we expand to the counterparty platform we'll have XCP as an option.
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751  Economy / Services / Re: 【Lee group,Round 2】4100$ ! Dragon 1T Miner delivered in 19 March on: March 15, 2014, 03:28:54 PM
This is an excellent seller.  I paid him via Paypal and he takes USD also!

Thank you so much.  I will give a review of the whole process once I have received the machine.

Thank you!  Thank you!

Got tracking numbers for my 5, so yeah Smiley

5?HuhHuh??

Yeah, 3 thru escrow 2 not thru escrow, plus a replacement blade for one of my current ones that went caput

whats your target hash for the 2Q 2014?
752  Economy / Services / Re: 【Lee group,Round 2】4100$ ! Dragon 1T Miner delivered in 19 March on: March 15, 2014, 03:09:05 PM
This is an excellent seller.  I paid him via Paypal and he takes USD also!

Thank you so much.  I will give a review of the whole process once I have received the machine.

Thank you!  Thank you!

Got tracking numbers for my 5, so yeah Smiley

5?HuhHuh??
753  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NRS] NoirShares Listed on PoloniEX, coming soon to NoirEX on: March 15, 2014, 01:36:17 PM
General Fund Public Investor Ledger

Here you can view your investment. If anyone has questions, i'll be glad to answer, easiet and quickest way is on skype :- barwizi.

Pocket has taken a temp job @ PR, if anyone is against his employment, please say so, as investors it is your right to choose who will be in charge of making your investments grow.
754  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NRS] NoirShares Listed on PoloniEX, coming soon to NoirEX on: March 15, 2014, 10:13:13 AM
Investments trickling in nicely.
755  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NRS] NoirShares Listed on PoloniEX, coming soon to NoirEX on: March 15, 2014, 09:50:58 AM
Sent 2500 for investment

Txid
be8451b37f8d5e205c568ac6595b8c9948decb4b95df59447574cf4b228504c1

What advantages do early investors have?
How long is the investment period open for?
Is there a cap on the funding period?


General fund will not have a cap although i will weight the shares of those who invest during the wait period of the exchange. These are the driving forces behind a lot of work so yeah, they deserve some recognition. all of you will have premium accounts on the exchange i.e no trade fees. Others who want premium accounts will pay through the nose.

Is there minimum investment amount for that premium no-trade-fee status :-)  ?


There is no real minimum but to see actual returns from you investment i suggest 1000 NRS as the floor. which is 10 PTS or 0.1 BTC
756  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NRS] NoirShares Listed on PoloniEX, coming soon to NoirEX on: March 15, 2014, 08:38:26 AM
Sent 2500 for investment

Txid
be8451b37f8d5e205c568ac6595b8c9948decb4b95df59447574cf4b228504c1

What advantages do early investors have?
How long is the investment period open for?
Is there a cap on the funding period?


General fund will not have a cap although i will weight the shares of those who invest during the wait period of the exchange. These are the driving forces behind a lot of work so yeah, they deserve some recognition. all of you will have premium accounts on the exchange i.e no trade fees. Others who want premium accounts will pay through the nose.
757  Economy / Services / Re: 【Lee group,Round 2】4100$ ! Dragon 1T Miner delivered in 19 March on: March 15, 2014, 07:44:57 AM
Antminer S2 is coming, the price is 3899$ and promise to ship before 1 Apr,
Here is the description of AntMiner S2 SPEC:
https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=00020140314135446510cxXNeYAy06E5
* Hash rate: more than 1,000GH/s
* Power consumption: 1,000W from the wall
* Power efficiency: 1Watt/GH/s
* PSU: 1000W produced by Enermax, 80PLUS gold
* 4U Rack
* PSU inside
* Plug and Mining
* Stable and quiet

Now you can see whether the dragon 1T miner shipped in 19 March priced 4100$ is worth to buy, only less than 10 unit is available now


i think in the time between the 22nd March and 1 April will be enough to cover that gap, though i may be interested in a few of those too.
758  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NRS] NoirShares Listed on PoloniEX, coming soon to NoirEX on: March 15, 2014, 01:04:34 AM
Question: How long will the General Fund be open for investment?
 I think it would be a good option to let it remain open for say 1 month or so and if released in time also be open it for Bitshares investment alongside of BTC/NRS/PTS.

And about letting PocketBits do marketing, in my opinion if he feels that he have the massive amounts of time need to get down to it, let him!
Im pretty confident you 2 have discussed it prior to posting in this thread so just go for it.
More of that kind of weight removed from your shoulders will release time for other things that need to be done = win!


Thanks for the support. The general fund has weighted shares, and is the only open option until the exchange is public. This protects all intial investors (you guys) from the flood that will come when other realize the potential. Look at it this way, if you own 1 full share in the general fund, it's a full share in the exchange and should we released a DAC using only general funds, then you have a full share there as well. Your full share entitles you to a % of the mining returns from the Dragon miners and if i get the 20 pack gridseeds, that too.

http://www.cryptosutra.com/2014/03/14/update-noirshares-nrs-group-hosting-and-cross-coin-application-2/#ViSWMqLlv5ws5z2v.16

Those who check up on me on skype know that once i get more developers aboard we will branch into Ethereum and Counterparty as soon as possible. Rather than be limited by platform, the only limits i can see are investor pockets and developer shortage. If i could just borrow two good c++ devs for a week, you'd see us churn real fast.

Pocket is cool and knows his stuff, i'm happy he's aboard. friend me on skype, i always reply to messages when i'm around
759  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NRS] NoirShares Listed on PoloniEX, coming soon to NoirEX on: March 14, 2014, 11:41:02 PM
Posting in this thread for my application to NRS as Marketing and Legal Officer, some of you know me, some don't, in any case I'll be jumping aboard-

My NRS address
9qAvA2wD58tCfsZF8Es2JPYwQQsA8Wiwe4

If there are No objections, i'd like to task him immediately to begin our PR campaign.
760  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [NRS] NoirShares Listed on PoloniEX, coming soon to NoirEX on: March 14, 2014, 11:39:57 PM
General Fund now open for Shares.

NRS :- 9cViAqUd7AKKZY5UyJUQo6nXCVJGTar1F7
PTS :- Pv2FwmEsDcTYaCipdTUiC4kfPtSfYY84iP
BTC :-  1Nf7PswAM87DWXfRLWxVVTjb8BYK3qfQuS

How does it work ? 

For what shares ?

Understanding how your investment works

Noir Investment Group

Investment Options

Isn't there an address for Short Term and another for Long Term? I'm missing something (English is also not my native language)

There isn't short term yet because that involves investing in a specific venture/project. Long term (General Fund) can be used for any project the Noir Investment Group sees fit. 

For the time being no short term, we need investors to vote on those matters as well, so General Fund first.

One of the most immediate means to dividends is my recent purchase of Dragon 1 TH miners. These will mine and sell, with 60% being given as dividends to investors, 15% going to company coffers and 25% going straight to buying NRS. This will help increase value and help with assuring investors that their money is not just sitting idle. For proof of purchase, please see the group buy section. Rather than always wait for large releases, i believe some constant streams of income will help investor confidence.

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