Hier mal etwa unerwartet erfreuliches: Es gibt doch noch Projekte, denen der Aufbau einer Community wichtig ist und denen es nicht bloß darum geht, den Leuten das Geld abzunehmen und davon Lambos zu kaufen und Grillpartys zu veranstalten. Da dort die eingesammelte Menge Geld im public sale sehr wenig war und im Vergleich dazu im private sale sehr viel, hat sich das Team von Aerum dazu entschieden, den Kunden die investierten Kryptowährungen zurückzusenden, während diese ihre erhaltenen XRM (Aerum-Token) behalten dürfen. Finde ich eine nette Geste zwischen all den Scams und Regeländerungen bei Bounties um so viele Teilnehmer wie möglich die Belohnungen zu kürzen. To protect our company from legal risks related to ICO/ITO fundraising activity and given the fact the absolute majority of raised capital comes from corporate investors and not from public, we have decided to cancel our ITO and refund all public investors. It means we will send back the ether they contributed to their respective accounts in next 14 days. As we do that we will leave them with XRM tokens as gratitude, free of charge. We will issue a technical bulletin with regards how to proceed for every method of contribution that was available. https://aerum.com/blog/aerum-the-road-ahead/Das klingt für mich eher nach einer rechtlichen Sache. Vielleicht hat die SEC oder ein Anwalt Aerum darauf hingewiesen....gab doch in der Vergangenheit schon einige Fälle, wo die Projekte eine Strafe an die SEC zahlen mussten und teilweise die durch das ICO erhaltenen Coins zurückgeben mussten. Sorry für die späte Antwort. Ja kann sein, wobei ich rechtliche Gründe eher nicht vermute, die Teilnehmer durften die Token ja behalten. Laut ICObench ist Aerum auf den Seychellen registriert, die SEC ist damit nicht involviert (zumal Investoren aus den USA nicht zugelassen waren). ...
Bei 200.000.000 Token für den Airdrop wären es ca. 20.000.000 Dollar den der Airdrop Wert ist. Natürlich stockt jetzt der Airdrop und steht bei angeblich 198.000.000 Millionen vergebenen Token fest. Das schon etwa 2-3 Wochen. Nix tut sich so recht. In Telegram schreiben sie das viele ihre Task nicht erfüllt haben und daher die 198 anstehen.
Aber zu meiner eigentlichen Frage: Haltet ihr es für möglich das dieser Airdrop jemals ausgezahlt wird ? Ich kann mir so etwas nicht vorstellen.
Ein wenig Zweifelhaft ist dieser Airdrop schon....oder sehe ich es falsch ?
Ich kenne diesen Airdrop zwar nicht aber dass jemand einen 20 Millionen $ Airdrop macht, während die Exchange 34 Millionen $ "Wert" ist, halte ich für fraglich. Vielleicht nur ein Angebot zum Kundenfang, damit sich diese auf der Exchange registrieren. Aber wie gesagt, ich weiß über den Airdrop nichts, kommt mir nur sehr seltsam vor. |
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Das geschieht YoShit absolut recht, wer so dreist zu seinen Signatur-Teilnehmern ist und sie regelrecht scammt, der bekommt verdientermaßen die Möglichkeit versagt, das weiter zu praktizieren. Und wenn layer1gfx eine Scam Anschuldigung aufmachen sollte, würde ich mich gerne an einem kritischen Beitrag zu YoShit beteiligen. Kann mir gut vorstellen, dass sie diese Masche auch bei anderen Teilnehmern probieren, nach phishing-mails sieht das jedenfalls nicht aus, auch wenn ich den genauen Ablauf nicht kenne, wie die Kommunikation mit diesem Kasper zustande gekommen ist. Edit: Mir ist gerade aufgefallen, dass die yoshit Signatur mit Am I spamming? Report me! ausgetauscht wurde.  Wohlverdient  129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.
Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.
Schade, hätte ich das vorher gewusst, dann hätte ich Posts von YoShit spammern massiv reportet... |
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Well, it's also late here, so I'll keep it short. Rank holds too much importance
...Buying an account is practically the only way to get anywhere now a days, and yes I get again that a lot of these "thresholds" are put in place to prevent scamming and such, but it's not really helping...
That's not true at all. Ok, maybe if you want to accumulate dozens of accounts to start shitposting or selling them to make money but if someone is at least a little bit interested in contributions to the forum, ranking up will be no problem at all. You don't even have to know much about crypto, learning step by step is always the way to go. We have a few new users in the German section and there are no problems for them, no harassing by high ranked members and they also receive some Merits if their content is somewhat useful. There is still a lack of Merit sometimes, yes I don't deny that, but it's not that bad how you are describing it. I'm around here for a year now and can tell you that everyone has the possibility to rank up if he puts a little bit effort into it. My online time is 16 days and that's not much in my opinion. If I had more time I would be online more often but that's how it is. Even as hobby participant it's possible to rank up, so don't tell me the only solution is to engage in account sales and buy an high-ranked account to cheat everyone willing to contribute here and rank up the legit way.  And then, it's no crime to wear a paid signature, like your accusation sounds like. The problem are poorly managed signature campaigns, the good ones don't make any problems. And ironically, another problem are the account hackers / sellers offering accounts for spammers. Your various buzzwords we know from previous discussions like "Misuse of Trust", "Ranking up is impossible", "Generalizing that all Signature campaigns are a problem" or "Hate towards Newcomers" let me think that you are just continuing what has already been discussed. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that there are no problems but that will just be another discussion like so many before. Rank holds too much importance
...Buying an account is practically the only way to get anywhere now a days, and yes I get again that a lot of these "thresholds" are put in place to prevent scamming and such, but it's not really helping...
Where did you get it before? Not interested to post from your main account? PS: And while seeing your long reply to TryNinja, I think I know already that will end up unbeneficially. I'm always open to good suggestions but that won't lead to anything... When red trust? |
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Very good points, I hope the participants in spammy campaigns will read your post (but I doubt it).
The biggest problem of such signature campaigns is that people are forced to make a high number of posts per week / per day to get the amounts in BTC compared to campaigns where the posts per week are limited to 40 - 60 posts per week. And whenever someone is forced to make comments that he won't make normally, the outcome is not useful at all. If they are forced to make their number of posts per day they'll make replies about things they are possibly not experienced in. The post quality will go down drastically and the posts won't help anyone, just adding another post to the topic. Those replies are not only not helpful, they are ruining the discussion and causing spam-megathreads.
Same like if someone tries to participate in a gambling signature campaign and as requirement they need to make posts in Gambling but they normally don't comment there. The replies won't be very useful.
I don't want to generalize everyone in the YoBit signature campaign as a spammer, there are also a few good contributors and even the best posters on the forum can make more than 100 posts per week without producing useless spam as a result. But the overall impression is like CryptopreneurBrainboss explained very well in his OP, it won't work for most members because they try to earn as much as possible.
In addition, such campaigns tend to ruin the posting history. A good posting history is always mixed with longer or shorter posts. No need to write always essays if you can say your content only in a few words. But for my experience the worst posters are those where the post lenght is always the same (a few lines) and that's a pattern that most spam posters have in common.
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I can assure you that the "shitposters" very much care if someone replies to one of their posts. The reason they care is because if you reply to their posts, they can respond to what you said for another easy/quick post.
Then, I would have gotten much more replies. I think there may be a couple of reasons you received so few replies:
1 - you posted in fairly large threads in which it is difficult to even a "normal" person to find a response to what you say. These "shitposters" want to spend as little time writing each post as possible, and going back multiple pages to look for a response takes time. I suspect you would get different results if you replied to these users in a smaller thread.
Maybe, but I had the impression that also smaller threads start to get more pages very soon if you can't get a first page reply. 2 - There is a 20 post per day limit as to how many posts each account will be paid for. I don't think many in this campaign will make much more than 20 per day, or even look at the forum from that account once they make 20 posts that day. If you wait a day or two, you may see a couple more responses
My experiment took place way before the YoShit Signature Campaign (April 11 + April 12) and is not related to it. It migh be a strange coincidence that YoBit starts their spam campaign just after I started to do the experiment. And I've waited 10 days for their replies if you look at the date of my posts in the OP... |
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Or do you really think 95% of the Bitcoin Discussion frequenters are actually having a discussion, reading and replying to each other?
As "excuse" if someone doesn't reply sometimes is that the number of people leaving comments in a thread just kills the discussion. In the German section we have also some good discussion threads and an hour later there are 30 new replies. If I start answering all the people who have quoted me that is sometimes a bit confusing for the discussion so I think in some cases people tend to refrain answering if it's not necessary. Re: Top 5 safest Bitcoin and Altcoin wallet 1. Blockchain
Blockchain is the technology behind Bitcoin's turnaround itself, so its superiority as a provider of Bitcoin wallet is definitely beyond doubt. You can even see all transactions from all accounts, whether it's Bitcoin acceptance or delivery.
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P.S: He's talking about blockchain.info (now dot com) wallet.That's a good one. And Fiat has invented our money system. xD
Honestly, I'm starting to think these "experiments" on shitposters are just shitposts themselves. You aren't helping the problem lmao, they won't stop shitposting so that makes your post pointless. I've seen at least 50 of these posts today about things like yobit and people posting crap, just stop.
Yes, we can't help, the forum is lost if the shitposters go for their hunt... xD If you have effective ideas to help and prevent shitposts while the traffic on Bitcointalk stays high I would appreciate it if you share it.
It isn't just shitposters who don't reply, either. Good posters who just make a lot of posts may not return to a thread that someone asked them a question in. And I guarantee you I've missed some questions that members have asked me in some threads. It just happens when there are so many threads and posts like there are on this forum.
In my opinion, the problem is a missing notification if we are quoted. I'm sure the people interested in a good discussion will reply if they get a notification that someone quoted them and asked an important question, it's not the lack of interest to reply. Of course, that won't solve the shitposter problem - they won't reply even if they get notifications all the time. In addition, they are quoted mostly by other shitposters. I know about the tool from Piggy but I would prefer in-forum solutions so I keep checking all the threads myself (still possible to miss questions) I'm all for science and experimentation, but this was a teaspoon of weak sauce, OP. No offense, I know you meant well.
I guess I've just chosen the worst point of time to post it. I didn't know that there will be the big YoBit issues when I had the idea and started to prepare the topic around 2 weeks ago. But on the other hand it's obvious that we have to be prepared much better if the bull market starts. There are still so many accounts waiting to get back to business (maybe bought accounts) and they are not interested in making quality posts :/ |
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Warum freust du dich denn da wenn die Exchanges überlastet sind? Weil wir dann wieder an dem Punkt angekommen sind, wo wir uns doch eingentlich alle wünschen zu sein  Achsoo, ja das macht Sinn. Und ich würde mich darauf auch sehr freuen.  Ich würde gerne mal Zahlen von den Neueinstellungen der Exchanges während des letzten Hypes sehen. Würde mich nicht wundern, wenn von denen nach 1 Jahr Bärenmarkt rund 80% wieder abgebaut wurden.
Nehme ich mal an. Um Kosten zu sparen, werden die das bestimmt gemacht haben. Kann mir zumindest nicht vorstellen, dass sie viel mehr Mitarbeiter dort herumsitzen haben als nötig. Was dann interessant wird, wäre zu wissen, ob sie bessere Möglichkeiten finden, schnell neue Mitarbeiter einzustellen. Vielleicht haben sie auch einige Mitarbeiter in Abruf, die bei verstärktem Bedarf schnell eingestellt werden könnten. |
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It's well known that the shitposters are suspected to give a shit whether anyone will reply to their posts in a spam megathread or not so I had the idea to make an experiment: Asking them questions and get a proof how serious the problem is or if our suspicion will be proven wrong. (My experiment took place before the YoShit disaster). Finally, we can get an official proof if we were right, suspecting them ignorance to stop following the "discussion" after they have submitted their one-liners. I've asked 11 of them questions where I had no doubt that a normal user would reply. (I used my alt account 0xmiau because I couldn't bother my main account to post there and wade through the shitposts.) I've tried to make it as simple as possible for them to answer and only replied to posts where my reply is directly below theirs. After I quoted them I waited a week for their reply. Here is my result:#1Now with the arrival of the crypto of spring-everything starts to gain momentum.The best and easiest way to accumulate altcoin is to take part in a bantikompaniya or participate in ico.I choose the best ico and at the very beginning I go to the maximum.You can buy at the beginning of the company very successful coins - for a little money.Now is a good time to start saving coins.
Can you please enlighten me what means bantikompaniya?? Never heard this word but I have a guess already...
#2That's understandable. Many projects are not worth a cent. During the hyip began the emergence of a huge number of meaningless projects. Time will kill them. as far as I know, not all of the coins until now are worth zero. because until now altcoin is still standing and used by many people even though there are many problems that always occur in altcoin so far. The last part is true, most altcoins have huge problems because they were only issued for the sake of issuing another altcoin. While I agree to your last part, the previous part of your comment is totally contradictionary. 95% of all Altcoins are dead more or less in my opinion. Why do you have the assumption that "altcoin is still standing and used by many people"?
#3I don't see that happening but Crypto at times does magic that suprises us but for me it's like a dream that will never come true
Then, I'm wondering why you're still here on Bitcointalk if it's your dream that a centralized shitcoin like XRP will defeat Bitcoin. Ok, maybe your post wasn't thoughtful and just typed in a few seconds to spam the forum and collect worthless ICO shitcoins? And please tell me only one good reason why it would be positive if XRP defeats Bitcoin.
#4If you see that your coin falls in price and the fall will continue further, then it makes sense to sell it and then buy at a cheaper price. Thus, you will have on your hands the same amount of coins, as well as profit from the difference in the price of sale and purchase.
Your advice sounds easy at the first view but is very difficult to do. How are you sure that the price will drop further? It's also possible that the price will go up again just after you sold. Do you have a strategy to know if the price will keep decreasing?
#5Of course, errors in the world of cryptocurrency are very expensive. But if you do not do them, you will not learn anything. All normal profits from a long experience. And this is a normal situation.
Not definitely, it's also a security measure to test new things with little amounts of money and if someone makes a mistake the loss won't hurt much but you've still learned your lesson. And to avoid even more losses it's better to read much before money can be lost. Or may I ask where do you think own mistakes are better to learn from?
#6Most of the people said in this board there will be no bull run in the late of 2018 and there is a high probability that bull run comes in mid-2019. What's your thought about it?
Last year many people thought that by the end of 2018 there will be a bull run. But that didn't happen and the price was still very low. Banteng is one that is expected to be coming soon and now the market is in very good condition. But I don't think the bull is there and it still takes a long time. May I ask what's Banteng? Is it good for us or should we be afraid that Banteng is coming soon? No reply, but someone else replied. There is still a chance that the user would have replied if someone else didn’t reply instead: http://archive.is/SB54c http://archive.is/K0JUZhttp://archive.is/bn0gG
#7personally i think ethereum is way more undervalued in comparison with bit[Suspicious link removed]d luck for everyone like me how still believe in the future of the ethereum blockchain and ecosystem Why do you think ETH is way more undervalued in comparison with Bitcoin? ETH has still some more problems than Bitcoin and I would be surprised if there are reasons why it's undervalued. Which reasons do you have for your assumption?
#8The recent introduction and success of IEO proves this right, because the exchanges validate the projects, so investor feel safe to invest their money.
Also a research done by exchanges is still no guarantee that the listed projects are legit and even if they are legit there's still an option that they fail. The exchange can't do anything if the developers are bad. In Germany, we had a big ICO, they collected 40 million $ advertised on big German websites and finally the project is now almost failed. It's likely that every exchange would have listed them because it seemed like a good project but it wasn't. Why are you sure that exchanges will be a guarantee for successful projects?
#9Bitcoin and Ethereum are way too volatile for my liking with a potential to return little profit with high risk. I rather discover gems like any coin and invest in it.
Ok, so your reason why you dislike investing in BTC and ETH is because they are too volatile? But actually, most shitcoins are much more volatile and their price can be easily manipulated by pump and dump. May I ask you why you think that random / unknown coins are less volatile than BTC / ETH? I think it's quite the opposite.
#10I understand that people needs to makes the forum lively and create topics that will generate constructive comments for study purpose but there are some things we know that is not a point to contend with, like this, how can someone compare ETH to BTC, ever since ETH was created, has there been any development that they have achieved that has made them grow more than they are now, but look at BTC, every little development shows immediately in its value at stretch.
At bottom line, I am not saying that ethereum is not good, they are good and cannot perform more than 10% of bitcoin task.
I agree to your opinion about BTC and ETH that there is no reason why ETH should be better than BTC and I don't see any reasons in the future. The move to PoS will be very difficult and bring up some more serious issues for ETH. However, regarding your first part. I don't think it will happen that some people will generate constructive comments in Altcoin discussion, especially when the title is so generic like Bitcoin vs Ethereum. They will just use it to post the well-known meaningless one-liners. And while I've read OP again and had already a bad feeling that it's something we know very well here already, I've checked it and it's true: OP is a plagiarizer, same content found here: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/031416/bitcoin-vs-ethereum-driven-different-purposes.aspWebsite archived: http://archive.is/eT7DY#selection-2437.6-2437.475OP archived: http://archive.is/Rl7f0#selection-511.0-511.469So what do you think? Is OP really creating a topic to discuss something or is it just to make a place for another bunch of shitposts? : And in addition, I caught a plagiarizer (reported here)
#11I do not understand how locking a bounty thread can even affect anything at all. Reports are sent to the bounty branch, even after the bounty has ended, what prevention of price fall can we talk about ...
LOOOOL, locking the rewards not the bounty thread, bro! You gave me a good laugh. Price of the token won't be affected in any way if their bounty thread is locked, OP meant locking the bounty tokens sent to bounty hunters to prevent a dump because they can't sell for a fixed time after they received their rewards. I think it was just a confusion, does it make more sense to you now after my explanation? I do not understand how locking a bounty thread can even affect anything at all. Reports are sent to the bounty branch, even after the bounty has ended, what prevention of price fall can we talk about ...
LOOOOL, locking the rewards not the bounty thread, bro! You gave me a good laugh. Price of the token won't be affected in any way if their bounty thread is locked, OP meant locking the bounty tokens sent to bounty hunters to prevent a dump because they can't sell for a fixed time after they received their rewards. I think it was just a confusion, does it make more sense to you now after my explanation? Oh yes, my mistake, I did not correctly read the name of the branch, haha. I apologize for this embarrassment.
Conclusion: out of 11 users 10 didn’t reply. I know, the result is not very representative but if someone is interested to do a similar experiment, feel free to do it. And the recently launched YoShitShow is almost a guarantee that the issues won't get better... |
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Please ban user Hiralbaria97 for plagiarism. Original content: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/031416/bitcoin-vs-ethereum-driven-different-purposes.aspWebsite archived: http://archive.is/eT7DY#selection-2437.6-2437.475While both Bitcoin and Ethereum are powered by the principle of distributed ledgers and cryptography, the two differ in many technical ways. For example, the programming language used by Ethereum is Turning complete whereas Bitcoin is in a stack-based language. Other differences include block time (Ethereum transaction is confirmed in seconds compared to minutes for Bitcoin) and their basic builds (Ethereum uses ethash while Bitcoin uses a secure hash algorithm, SHA-256). (See also: Is Ethereum More Important Than Bitcoin?)
Plagiarized / copy-paste: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129747.0OP archived: http://archive.is/Rl7f0#selection-511.0-511.469Both Bitcoin and Ethereum are powered by the principle of distributed ledgers and cryptography, the two differ in many technical ways. For example, the programming language used by Ethereum is Turning complete whereas Bitcoin is in a stack-based language. Other differences include block time (Ethereum transaction is confirmed in seconds compared to minutes for Bitcoin) and their basic builds (Ethereum uses ethash while Bitcoin uses a secure hash algorithm, SHA-256)
Guys what you think?
Which will dominate most in furure?
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[tinfoil]Perhaps the Yobit campaign is a false flag operation designed to smoke out dormant shitposters[/tinfoil]
YoBit signature campaign is a sign that the bull market is coming: Although i'm very new on the forum but based on what i have learnt on the forum, exchange signature campaign can bring about some possibility of a growing bubble in crypto market. Haven seen this signature campaign(yobit.net) running on the forum with higher rank member be involved, draw my attention to the upcoming bubbles, if this can bring about it. If this can bring about a bubble then why can't we all join the campaign to make things work as fast as possible?.
There has been some argument between participants and none-participant about the legitimacy of this yobit.net signature campaign. Just want to hear your opinion on this.
If this's not the right place, kindly re-direct thanks.
We should all join there "to make things work as fast as possible" and bring BTC to a new ATH very soon. Exchange signatures are always a sign of growing bubbles, especially if high ranked-members are involved in the campaign (they can't be wrong - or is it just because of the payment?). |
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Man sollte ebenfalls nicht die Auswirkungen der neuen YoBit Signaturkampagne auf den Kurs vernachlässigen. Man munkelt nämlich, dass Exchange-Signaturkampagnen generell Vorboten für Bildungen von Blasen im Markt sein könnten: Although i'm very new on the forum but based on what i have learnt on the forum, exchange signature campaign can bring about some possibility of a growing bubble in crypto market. Haven seen this signature campaign(yobit.net) running on the forum with higher rank member be involved, draw my attention to the upcoming bubbles, if this can bring about it. If this can bring about a bubble then why can't we all join the campaign to make things work as fast as possible?.
There has been some argument between participants and none-participant about the legitimacy of this yobit.net signature campaign. Just want to hear your opinion on this.
If this's not the right place, kindly re-direct thanks.
Seid also nicht überrascht, wenn der Kurs demnächst durch die Decke geht.  |
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Well to be honest I think it would be a good experiment when we would be able to see how ! Cryptocurrency + government can work together since it will be a derivative of a bank !
Any ideas about what will happen ? What do you guys think ?
I don't think a cryptocurrency issued by the Chinese government will work, especially not in China (and not for the people). The communist party of China is well known for their restrictions and they are arresting people who have a different opinion and are opposing the opinion of the communist party. They'll just use their government-issued cyptocurrency to analyze crypto transactions completely, ban cash and froze the crypto accounts of a person if they are doing something the communist party doesn't like. If China is going to launch a crypto I'm almost sure that it wouldn't be a useful cryptocurrency because it'll be centralized and controlled by the government, not like Bitcoin, where you are your own bank. |
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Sorry, not that one. This one: İs not the right time for ico, you must wait for the bear of the month
And it's a shame that all of them are Sr. Member or above, they are posting like Newbie shitposters. Only because they were here before Merit was introduced.  Maybe we should consider a deMerit for wearing a (paid) signature (at least 1 deMerit per month). For wearing a paid signature everyone has to register his account as "enrolled in a paid signature" where he has to tick a checkbox in his profile settings and that will result in 1 deMerit per month. If someone is caught wearing a paid signature and hasn't enabled his account as "enrolled in a paid signature" => red trust It will take a time to rank their accounts down but I think it's the only possibility to reduce such shitshows at least a little bit. |
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Ach herrje YoShit! Das lohnt doch garnicht, wenn man halbwegs konstruktive Posts schreiben möchte. actmyname macht aus aktuellem Anlass ein Experiment, ob es möglich ist, 100 Shitposts in einer Stunde abzugeben: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133932.0Ich bin persönlich (zum Glück) nicht bei YoShit registriert, habe davon aber bisher "eher Gemischtes" gehört Bei den ganzen dort gelisteten Shitcoins verliert man doch den Überblick xD Aber trotzdem viel Glück, dass ihr auch für eure Posts bezahlt werdet. Frohe Ostern Euch allen und viel Erfolg bei Yoshit ( ich mag die nicht ) sorry
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Glaubst Du das wirklich?  Wenn wir das nächste Mal so einen FOMO haben, wird es garantiert enfalls wieder zum Zusammenbruch kommen. Freue mich jetzt schon darauf, wenn wir in diese Situation kommen  Kann mir schon gut vorstellen, dass die Exchanges besser vorbereitet sind aber ich nehme auch an, dass der Neukundenansturm beim nächten Bullrun deutlich höher ausfallen könnte, also hätte sich das unterm Strich nicht viel getan und das würde in den selben Problemen enden wie beim letzten Mal. Warum freust du dich denn da wenn die Exchanges überlastet sind? |
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Toller Post. Ich muss gestehen das ich ihn 3 mal gelesen habe um es einigermaßen zu verstehen. Jetzt weiß man erst das man viel zu wenig über Blockchain / Crypton weiß. Es gibt immer neue Sachen von den man vorher keinen Schimmer hatte. Genau so wie mit den BTC Adressen mit den gewünschten Buchstaben am Anfang.
Ja, vielleicht wird bald wieder was neues erfunden, man weiß es nicht. Was ist denn Segwit P2SH und bech32
Du, das ist oben erklärt. Bitcoin SegWit-Adressen können unterschiedliche Adressformate haben, nämlich Segwit P2SH (3...) und bech32 (bc1q...).
Man könnte hier hinzufügen das segwit Transaktionen auch schneller sind.
Das stimmt, insgesamt sollte SegWit schneller sein aber ich weiß nicht, ob das an den sat/byte liegt. Die verbesserte Schnelligkeit kommt ja daher, dass nun mehr Transaktionen in einen Block passen (durch die witness Geschichte), was mehr Transaktionen/Sekunde ermöglicht. Der Block wird ja an sich im Endeffekt sogar größer. Begründung weiter unten. 1- Entweder man bezahlt das selbe bei der Segwit Transaktion als sonst, und hat dadurch eine höhre fee/byte, was für Miner interessanter ist. Kein Geld gespart, dafür aber Zeit. 2- Die ausgewählte fee befindet sich iwo zwischen den sat/byte Wert von einer Legacy Transaktion und der in 1-. Also trotzdem noch priorisiert und gespart. 3- Die Transaktion ist tatsächlich kleiner. Es gibt also die Chance das diese Transaktion in einen Block passt wo eine Legacy Transaktion nicht reinpasst. Also auch wenn der sat/byte Wert derselbe ist wie bei der Legacy Transaktion sind die Chancen ziemlich hoch das die segwit Transaktion schneller durchgeht. Die kleinsten Transaktion (dadurch auch die schnellsten un billigen) sind die "native segwit" also bech32. Danach kommen die nested segwit, und zu allerletzt die Legacy Ja, es gibt offenbar Fälle, bei denen die Transaktionen (in Bytes) tasächlich keiner sind, das scheinen aber Sonderfälle zu sein und es ist normal so, dass SegWit die Transaktionen nicht kleiner macht (bezogen auf size = bytes). Stattdessen ersetzt SegWit die maximale Blockgröße (1 MB, 1.000.000 Bytes) mit dem maximalen Blockgewicht (4.000.000 weight units). Und anhand dessen werden die vorigen bytes unterschiedlich gewichtet, was darauf ankommt, ob sie Teil der witness sind oder nicht: - nicht Teil der witness = 4 weight units - Teil der witness = 1 weight unit Es gibt seit SegWit also ein neues Konzept, bei dem es auf das Gewicht (weight) ankommt, was bei SegWit-Adressen dazu führt, dass sich der witness-Teil von vormals 4 weight units auf 1 weight unit senkt. Ich bin jetzt auch kein Profi dahingehend, wenn jemand das also präzise erklären kann, würde ich es sehr begrüßen. Es gibt mehrere Möglichkeiten, sich eine SegWit-Adresse zu erstellen, hier ein paar davon zur Auswahl:
Bitcoin Core hättest du auch erwähnen können... Ledger ist auch nativ jetzt nested segwit. Native Segwit ist auf der roadmap aber kein ETA. Ja, gibt einiges, daher hatte ich nur ein paar Sachen gelistet. |
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Wow, I didn't expect that the list would be that big. Much users, so trust. Most distrusts are obviously from cryptohunter / Thule et al (like my distrust) |
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Bitcoin price is independent from mining difficulty. Price won't go up just because more miners are hashing. Instead, miners are leaving / joining the network depending on BTC price and how profitable it is for them if they can pay their running costs from their mined Bitcoins. At a higher BTC price more miners will be able to join, if the price gets lower miners are leaving the network and stop mining. Average cost for mining a BTC will normally always be a little bit below the Bitcoin price that miners will make at least a decent profit after expenses (maintenance / electricity), otherwise there is no need for them to do mining. And there won't be any miners mining at a loss obviously. Keep in mind that the hardware has also a price to purchase and a limited lifetime. These costs need also to be covered if the miners won't end at a loss. Makes no sense for miners to get a profit of around 1 percent per month when the lifetime of the miners is only around 2 years. |
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I think your method works when the address starting with "3" is mine, but what if it's not ? like I have an address starting with 3 on Localbitcoins and another one like it on Paxful where I deposit for my trades.
It's always possible to check if the address has an outgoing transaction. If there is one it's possible to verify it on every block explorer showing witness data. My Segwit addresses on Electrum are all starting with "bc1" I thought those were the only "real" Segwit addresses.
bc1... addresses are native SegWit addresses (bech32) but SegWit addresses starting with 3... are also SegWit (nested SegWit). I don't know if we can call bech32 "the only real" SegWit because the other ones are also SegWit and there are not really "unreal" SegWit addresses aside from Multisig and Legacy. Differences are mainly that bech32 are case-insensitive and fees are again lower with bech32 compared to P2SH-SegWit. And before SegWit was introduced bech32 addresses didn't exist. |
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