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7521  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: May 21, 2016, 11:15:01 PM
with my experience as a gambler from more than one year, I can say, any one can win if he plays with good control over his emotions and greediness. We should take over all profits of a particular month. But not session wise.
Tup this will workout but for this we have to play safely and think lot about our betting. Not every one will control there emotions and greediness while playing gambling. Because our winning bet will change our greediness and loss will change our emotions so those who control there will power they can follow this method. If they follow this method really we can make some profit.
Yes. I agree with you. It is very hard to control our emotions and greediness while we play. I too lost so much in the early days of gambling. But now, in fact, it is my full time earning resources. I play regularly. But with very strict rules.
So do you manage to win or loose with strict rules? As I don't think any rules and regulations will help you in winning unless you don't have luck favoring you.

Very agree with that because higher chance for you to ve loose out of greed if you keep dp gambling in the long run but i think its ok if you threat it as your hobby or entertainment that you can afford to lose only is just your spare money,  but really in gambling if luck doesnt on your side totally lose for you, although at first try you win and win but surely if bad luck strike you will try to catch up and gamble big money just try to get back your lose by that you end up losing big money and cry later.
7522  Economy / Economics / Re: Are electric cars bad for the oil industry? on: May 21, 2016, 11:23:33 AM
Instead of electric cars, use of alternate sources of energy like solar cars would affect the oil industry more and are more environment friendly ways of transportation. Affect on oil industry will affect the economy of few countries badly as they need to find alternate sources of income.
Yes, nowadays oil has more than one opponent although they all may decrease use of oil and also we cannot measure effect of one factor on oil.

It can surely affect on oil if electric cars really running on street well they lose big percentage of their income and thats great effect may ended to many people lose job and big percentage of world trade economy would be down, and iF realy happen those king oil countries will be suck and their economy will broke and alerted to be break down, and for sure government would not let it happen because they are making income with it in trades and surely they wil not let an ally in economy country will be down.
7523  Economy / Economics / Re: Why has bitcoin had success in China? on: May 21, 2016, 10:07:30 AM
Cause of cheap electricity and and other goods for mining, i think that 70% of miners now located in China.

Its because its not just due to mining for home miners to them. Its also because all the top huge mining pool is located in china.

Also followed with chinese exchanges thats been around as the same time as bitstamp.

Yes because chinese men get the high percentage part of mining of bitcoin and they got low fees in electricity, and maybe it is the reason  why we can see a lot of chinese bitcoin user because they almost taken. All mining powers and maybe they want to control bitcoin, and many people take that opourtunity to advertise their business to chinese men, coz they knew lot of them are risk takers and join on programs where they can be benifited.
7524  Economy / Speculation / Re: Halving has already Begun, Yes or No? on: May 21, 2016, 09:47:37 AM
It has not started yet.

The halving effect will be felt 6 months after the halving events. This happened in the halving in 2012.

I agree its not started yet price of bitcoin now is not really high and still cheap, its ok to buy by this state because price is not high and maybe we see the price rising for past these i though it was the effect of massive people buying bitcoins for that week and save for their wallet so they can join the earner trend in halving times occur, but today really price of bitcoin is decreasing dont know why but hoping it will go down so much and it will stabilzed around 450$ and cant still earn profit with bitcoin even though halving is not occuring.
7525  Economy / Speculation / Re: How many bitcoins do I need to retire in 20 years? on: May 21, 2016, 09:28:24 AM
That depends on the value of Bitcoin and that is hard to predict because it is a curreny so you never know what the value will be of Bitcoin and that is the problem, but you never know.
I think you need more than some 50 Bitcoins for sure otherwise it will be not possible to you if the value is going to reduce, there are many risks.

Since there is no stability in the price of bitcoin,you cannot peridict whats going to happen in next few years even. Even if is difficult to predict the price after few months also.

price of bitcoin is unstable and you can rely your retireMent money their because we never knew what will happen to bitcoin in future, price of it is kinda movy and theres always treath to users that price will go down and what if bitcoins price died while your retirement money is their? Well your broke,lose money and vain you will leave im home for the age person by that, i strongly suggest that if you plan to have retirement btc money cash it out and put it in banks.
7526  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Halving is a profitable??? on: May 21, 2016, 09:16:57 AM
Do you think that in this year halving is a profitable???
If the halving is going to happen it is going to make the Bitcoin cheaper so for the people who want to buy coins it is profitable. For the people who want to sell coins this is not so good news.
but bitcoin is not going cheaper. it is going higher.. 98% peoples predicted that about halving. they said already bitcoin will touch 1000 dollar price at this year's halving. the halving will be profitable for sellers. and for buyers of course if they buy before halving and hold them.

I would say halving is more profitable for those who have biggest savings volume in btc because they are the one who get benifited for these halving  phenomena and for those who have little balance who waits longer for halving well yes they can earn but only little and if they invest it When halving still not occur well they can big profit with it since halving occurs,

But really halving is profitable as i cab see the history chart of halving event in wiki it show and tells that halving have really great effect to bitcoins price up so by that we can tell halving is profitable as history says.

7527  Economy / Economics / Re: Mining coins save or sell it? on: May 21, 2016, 08:47:04 AM
Save most of it and only sell the amount that will sufficiently meet your needs.

I hope you do not have too many needs Cheesy

and we have some needs everyday so we will sell our bitcoin everyday  Cheesy
i choose to sell if you think the price will be down, and hold if you think price will be rise

This isnt just you lol.

This is probably 90% of the people on this forum, unless they have other investments and already established.

But most I assume are in their 20`s working at a job and trying to get into the scene so they force to sell extra coin to pay bills as well.

I dont do mining because i dont really trust cloud mining nowadays because all of them will turn scam and it can make you cry if you invest in low roi ponzi scheme, and i do selling my coins weekly to have money or allowance that can i use in weekly basis and also to have savings and i dont really see bad thngs in selling coins because thats what we are intended to here, bitcoins is not for display it is used to multiply and earn profit so we can have extra income in online world, and its very helpful.
7528  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: May 21, 2016, 08:32:20 AM
Crying only happen when things are becoming extreme. So you can cry when you lose so much that it really hurt you, or when you win too much until you cant handle your feeling. I hope it is for the better.

Agreed, but actually you can get profits on gambling when you have a definite and solid strategy and you stick on it like a glue. It's been doing fine for me in the past month and I'm happy on what I'm gaining even though it's just a small amount coming in to my wallet everyday. I lost 0.05 max and that's all. So i am a big Gambler as i know all the tricks to win
There is not solid strategy in gambling because the gambling sites or the house will discover your strategy and just simply adjust their system to beat the winners and in the end they will still be on profit.

But you may apply the strategy revealed there its a guide for you to follow maybe it work maybe not but by by then you yave completely idea on how to win in that gambling sites like dice game there many strategies is shown in youtube, but be moderate only in gambling and dont be hook to it just  spend little time because the more time you spend with it you will be addicted and chance to lose more money.
7529  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anyone have plan to make income on bitcoins :) on: May 21, 2016, 08:11:22 AM
Hey,

Anyone else to plan make income on bitcoins?

My plan is simple. I like mining and trading and I want to make income with these methods. I know mining of btc is hard because of electronics needs. but mining altcoin would be easier then that. and I am planing to min altcoins to make income. and buy bitcoins then.

Mining altcoin is very difficult too, although a bit easier than bitcoin, so thats not a real income in bitcoin unless you spend quite some money on miners. And trading you have to have some skills in order to do it. Working for bitcoin and offering some service you are able to do is the best option for me. Signature campaign are very low earnings but still a good additional income if you don't touch them and keep accumulating from them.

Although its very risky to earn money there in tradings but it is very good program you can be trust to invest your money with but surely you need proper strategy to that to earn big money if your a newbie well you need to practice and monitor price movements, and also mining would not profitable unlike those past years because difficulty more be lot higher for this upcoming event. So we cannot really gaurantee to earn a living in bitcoin we can surely is to have savings with it and to habe emergency money that can use in future Needs.
7530  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which Investment Type do you Prefer??? on: May 21, 2016, 03:30:40 AM
There are so many investment program existing out there and i want to here the pulse of the people where they would prefer to invest and why. so other people here may knew that they can earn in different forms and different ways in online world.

Types of investments

1. Gambling - Chances to earn big in just an hour
2. Tradings - Need proper learnings and monitoring tp avoid lose.
3. Hyips - Ponzi Scheme And risky
4. Crownfunding - earn by gh and ph.

Which do you prefered investment above do you see  you can earn and why.

I prefer picks gambling and HYIP. Why boths ? Becausae gambling is really good for making money in a second and HYIP, if you know how and know is the smart way to invest on hyip you can earn money.

hyips its like a game,you can win or lost,lot hyip is legal if it work for good program like hyips work on forex you can win or lost,if you win you get nice money and if you lost you lost too your money and you accept that in convention.

Yeah agree hyips is just an earn and run game if you got already your profit theres no turning back to invest again because mostly of hyips now are made to scam in short period of time they are intended to last in 3 days nowadays and those long time running sites has just scam people now, and the one left there is hashocean running by ponzi scheme  and surely it will turn scam one oF these day if they can see theres no more incoming investment they come in their pocket but really all types of investment is risky But risk make us rich or poor.
7531  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: May 21, 2016, 02:54:36 AM
gambling will destroy us feel when experiencing a loss, but if the gamble we experience the obvious advantage that the destruction is not going to feel.

Yes that's true, Gambling will just wreck our lives. Think about it that you are going to waste your hard earned for playing it to gambling and not knowing
if your money there will earn , win or not. Better just to save your money rather than put it into gambling.
And if you don't have something to gamble , committing crimes is possible.
You cannot say it in general because not all of the gamblers here are indiscipline, there are also gamblers who knows how to manage their gambler habits, they understand gambling very well and they treated gambling at the right way. Gambling is for entertainment, to enjoy on our spare time and if we hit a jackpot while gambling consider that a bonus so you would not think of switching your real job as a source of income to gambling because if you make that stupid decision it would probably wreck your life.

Most gamblers actually don't lose any relevant amount of money, most gamblers are casual gamblers. It's only the ones that get addicted and start losing stupid amount of money that suffer the consequences. If you only gamble small amounts you can never lose big amounts and therefore you can enjoy it in a normal way.
I don' think so, the right statement in my opinion should be most gamblers wagered the amount they cannot afford to lose. As a result if they win they always want for more and when they lost they always chase because they will not accept losing in the game. This practice would always lead to wrecking your life.

Totally with that i must say gambling would never fix someones life its not the best solution to indulge or even relay to it to earn money or even a living because first of all its gambling and intended for you to lose money if you really get hook to it, and the one earning big is just the gmabling sites owner, but if you do it for moderate way and just for fun well its ok if you are and have big money in the poCket.
7532  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Which Investment Type do you Prefer??? on: May 20, 2016, 12:29:36 PM
There are so many investment program existing out there and i want to here the pulse of the people where they would prefer to invest and why. so other people here may knew that they can earn in different forms and different ways in online world.

Types of investments

1. Gambling - Chances to earn big in just an hour
2. Tradings - Need proper learnings and monitoring tp avoid lose.
3. Hyips - Ponzi Scheme And risky
4. Crownfunding - earn by gh and ph.

Which do you prefered investment above do you see  you can earn and why.
7533  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price rise is over on: May 20, 2016, 12:06:56 PM
Big rise is soon expected. These days the price has been experiencing fluctuations and not a increase. With patience waiting for a increase as the halving is near within few months time. Though no one has exact prediction waiting till halving with hope is good.
I think we dont see any changes of the price these days but yesterday the price is down a bit from 460 to 440 and i think this price will stay until block halving.. and after block halving we will see the price change increased..
As long as we maintain prices of $440-$460 in the runup to the block halving then most people will be happy with it.

My guess is that after the block halving the price will remain fairly stable as there is not much left to drive the price into a certain direction this year.
I guess if after halving the price increases and stable. people will do the dump, because they has been buying and holding for halving, then if halving stable, their choice is dump.

If there was ever a price spike because of the halving it'll surely come down to even 3x the magnitude after the pump, come to think of it, if people didn't see a rise like they were expecting, everyone would just sell out and push the price down the drain.

Maybe theirs someone starting selling their coins so they can buy cheap coins so by that they can earn more money for the halving comes, but really bitcoin price is going down today but its normal as we.can see past downfall event to bitcoin and it always rise up since bitcoin has lot of big investor using it and for the halving event maybe it is just part of their strategy to make price down and people do start to sell and by that if happen they can earn more than money they think. Halving really profitable as you can see on the wikis chart.
7534  Economy / Economics / Re: Do You Think Bitcoin Will Replace Dollar Soon? on: May 20, 2016, 11:50:28 AM
No Bitcoin is not going to take over the Dollar anytime soon. The Bitcoin is just not big enough for it to take over the Dollar. Only if the Bitcoin is bigger then the Dollar it can take over the Dollar.

Bitcoin never overtake dollar in future,and to do so it needs a huge market cap that dollar is enjoying at this stage and I don't think bitcoin can ever reach that level.

USA is on the top of economic successfull country structure and most of all transaction online or even in foreign countries is in dollar symbol and its showing the strenght of dollars in the world economy and it cannot really happen for digital and anonymous money to take the place of the top strongest currency in the world bitcoin really needs adoption and satisfaction many people still confuse about it because of its anonimosity where we cannot knew when it gone or it will really last in future.
7535  Other / Off-topic / Re: [Discussion]What work would you do for 1$USD per hour? on: May 20, 2016, 11:32:28 AM
Its a bit low on the payment consider the electricty and the time that is being used, but if you get 1$  for each hour after being deducted the electricty, i would like to do it as long as its legal, actually 240$ dollar per month is quite big in some country

It is not low if we consider it as just as side income, but yeah it is so low if we consider it as a main source of income.
just the same with you, I will do anything for it as long as it is legal.
It is a good amount for me, lets say I work 8hours/day = $8/day = $56/week is nice amount.

@OP : please tell me if there is an opportunity to earn $1/hours.

Its not really bad if we treat it as side income and its really ok to me and i really do it as long as that is not illegal that can ruin my reputation, and also you can find decent freelance work that offering big rates like in upwork you can earn 5$ hourly there depend on your skills and if client wants you to work for them thats big money than joining here in campaign and we only get here is cents per post,
7536  Economy / Economics / Re: I have 12 BTC in my Account, How should I invest this?? on: May 20, 2016, 11:21:20 AM
If I were to choose a strategy, I'd go with holding 90% of those bitcoins and play the waiting game, maybe until a few months after the halving reward. If the price surges by more than 20% after that, I'd sell about two bitcoins and keep the rest for the long term. The other 10% I'd use to day trade altcoins, such as ETH and TRUMP.
invest in altcoin seemed to be popular today because I often see a lot of people were advised to invest in Etherum. question that altcoin have great fluctuations and greater than bitcoin volatile. even could move tens of percent in one day? how can you call it is a good investment

Ethereum is better coin to invest with i think its top2 in alt coin because price of eth is rising and its very profitable to invest with and profible for miners, as i wandering in altcoin section most of them prefered to mine ethereum cause for today it is in good track and rising high although it came to point that his price got down last time but it bounces back again maybe it will go to top next to bitcoin.
7537  Other / Off-topic / Re: How many btc do you have? on: May 20, 2016, 10:59:09 AM
more than 10 less than 30 Cool

Well that's nice that you have more than 10 btc and less than 30 , I guess it is 29 btc? Grin That's a lot btc.

For now, i only have around 0.015 bitcoin, because i already sold all my bitcoin yesterday, when i need money. Now i will earn bitcoin again.

At least you already sold your bitcoins and you are benefit it today.

For me i dont have btc left in my wallet because i already sold it because i need spare money to use and i dont regret it because use it for good and not for a waste although halving is approaching and possible profit can be get by that i dont still regret coz i always got benifits even if i dont have btc save . but really its very good to have savings in btc if you cam afford to buy many bitcoin as you can because the said event their wi be occur in future.
7538  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: May 20, 2016, 10:43:43 AM
Rich from debts.   Shocked formerly i always lose in gambling when i atempt to gamble my money when i was bored, maybe im not lucky in gambling but i dont want to spend time little more longer with it and mostly i do gambling in satoshi mines where my hearts pumping when i click tiles them baaamm my money is blasting. And also i gamble in nba games but just for play offs just to join the trend.
7539  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: May 20, 2016, 09:47:42 AM
Price of bitcoin truly matters, because most users get attracted of the price and starts using bitcoin. Only later they understand all other advantageous decentralized nature and all. So for growth and increased adoption bitcoin price matters and plays a big role.
yeah thats right dude. prices have brought me into the world of bitcoin when I first saw the news about bitcoin which has skyrocketed and sky-high prices. so at that moment I interested to become members bitcoin
Me too, I did not discover it when the price is just low which I wished that it happened to me. The price of bitcoin now is really stable and high, that means if this is considered an asset, it is valuable. It will continue to increase as many people are using it for their daily transactions.

In my case, it's not like that. The price of bitcoin when I first entered the scene is around $220 - $250. That is not a high price to consider. This means that I involved myself here because it has a fiat value. So even I first meetup in bitcoin at $50, I will still enter. Im used to earn low penny for almost months doing PTC that's why I involved in this kind of online opportunity.

For me it really matters because when i start using bitcoin the price range for that time is playing  @ 200$-250$ and i really got bored for slow earnings i get and quit for maybe long time, but i came back to the game when the price is ranging to 400$ and up because i see my friends earning money with bitcoin and get inspired again and by now i still continue using it, maybe its the same to all people here they are using bitcoin because they got attracter to its price and they can see they can earn money with this. Price is the most importance in this business.
7540  Other / Off-topic / Re: I spent all my saving on bitcoin, now i am broke on: May 20, 2016, 09:16:52 AM
You are maybe now broke but you just have to keep your bitcoins and stay believing in it, the halving is close and you will make a lot of profit after this, just hang on and wait on it you will gain a lot of money again.
yeah agree with you. bitcoin prices will not stop in one time. bitcoin prices will continue to move. so you do not worry there will be time bitcoin prices more than the price you purchased at that time. you have to do is be patient

Very agree with that maybe op just need to wait and monitor for this halving event surely they can earn big profit with it, and really hes broke for just staking  his savings in bitcoin, bad news their is when he is saving it without halving well i can say your risking your future for nothing there, since by then halving us coming i can say your not brook since you can sell when halving effect occurs, but really make sure you are present and active when halving events occur because chances may fall down if price is so high and many people will sale their saved bitcoin.
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