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7581  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is...... on: May 17, 2018, 02:40:39 PM
way of life Smiley
I think bitcoin is for open minded people, ready to change their lives, open to new ideas and ready to quit their jobs and to be financially feee!
7582  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Porez na bitcoin i kriptovalute 2018-2019 on: May 17, 2018, 02:32:42 PM
Ma sve je to super zamišljeno kad bi kripto valute mogle spadati pod neki od naših zakona. Ali što ako sam ja sve što sam zaradio dobio preko airdropa? Istina, na taj način nisam dobio puno ali sam kasnije svojom sposobnošću trgovanja zaradio puno više i onda to pretvorio u fiat te prebacio na devizni račun. Airdrop se ne može smatrati drugim dohotkom jer nisam ništa radio da bi dobio te coine/tokene (kao što je slučaj kod rudarenja ili raznih signature, Facebook, Twitter i sličnih kampanja) tako da mi ne mogu lupiti porez na drugi dohodak. S druge strane, nemam nikakav "ulaz" novca (mislim na kupnju neke kripto valute za fiat) da bi tu zaradu prikazao kao kaptialnu dobit.

Bit će zanimljivo vidjeti kako će se Porezna postaviti prema airdropovima. Može se smatrati i donacijom, i dividendom, i drugim dohotkom - naime za drugi dohodak nije nužno da je riječ o tome da si nešto radio pa zaradio, to je kategorija u koju mogu utrpati sve što ne spada u nešto drugo.

Kako bilo da bilo, neki dan sam pogledao svoju ETH adresu u ethploreru. Vidim neki VIN i neki IMT za koje nikad nisam čuo. Ako Porezna misli da znam kad sam to dobio, i da je realno očekivati da će ljudi pratiti tokene po svim svojim ETH adresama i prijavljivati dohodak... postići će da im nitko ništa ne prijavljuje da slučajno ne otkrije svoje ETH adrese i time ne plati ni porez na npr. rudarenje ili kapitalnu dobit koji bi inače htio platiti.

Puno tu još ima nejasnoća i nedoumica, no situacija je puno bolja nego prije 4-5 godina kada sam ja prvi put prijavljivao porez na zaradu na Internetu (tada još ne od bitcoina).
U poreznoj su se bili našli u čudu jer čak nisu imali ni posebnu kategoriju za internetsku zaradu, ni šifru u joopd šifrarniku, ništa... potpuna nepoznanica.
Uopće nisu znali kako bi trebalo ispuniti joppd obrazac da bi to uopće prošlo kroz sustav e porezne i bilo prihvaćeno.
Na kraju su mi rekli da uzmem šifru koja se koristi za autorski honorar, samo da prijava nekako prođe u sustavu.
Sada  već porezna daje prve služben upute o prijavi zarade na bitcoinu, crypto valutama i to je zaista ogroman napredak u odnosu na ono što sam ja morao prolaziti
Da, mnoge stvari su još nedorečene ali i to će se s vremenom rješavati, kako sve više ljudi bude prijavljivalo zaradu po crypto valutama, i porezna neće imati izbora već da kroz vlastitu praksu dođe do opće prihvatljivog rješenja za sve.
Bitno je da kada dođete u svoj lokalni ured porezne, svom poreznom referentu, ne odustajete i tražite pojašnjenja kako ispuniti joopd obrazac.
Ako ne zna on, tražite da pita voditelja.
Ako ne zna voditelj, tražite da pitaju dalje...
Samo na taj način ćete prisiliti poreznu da pronađe rješenje i da to postane općeprihvaćeni standard, koji će sve primjenjivati.
I ne zaboravite svaki puta, kada dobijete nešto službeno od porezne, to objaviti ovdje Smiley
Tako ćete svima pomoći.
7583  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: How to recover my lost bitcoin wallet password? on: May 15, 2018, 02:40:33 PM
If you are storing your bitcoins on a wallet with private keys then you can use those private keys to access your wallet even without the password. But if you created a wallet but you do not have the private key because you created your wallet on a website that hosts a bitcoin wallet then all you need to do is to contact  their support.

Yes, but you will need to prove that this is your wallet.
It may be very difficult to recover your lost password but I wish you luck.
Try to find first email you received from them.
7584  Economy / Speculation / Re: Perfect Time to Buy! on: May 13, 2018, 02:16:37 PM
In my opinion, perfect time to buy was in 2009 Smiley
Of course, we can't come back in 2009 but realistically, btc price, with occasional ups and downs, will continue to grow so still is very good time to buy.
7585  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Bitcoin je ''otrov za štakore'' on: May 13, 2018, 01:49:18 PM
Evo, ako do sada niste znali zašto bitcoin pada, naši vrli i dobro informirani mediji su to upravo otkrili: http://www.index.hr/vijesti/clanak/warren-buffett-i-bill-gates-o-bitcoinu-to-je-poput-otrova-za-stakore/1044490.aspx
Ova izjava mi se posebno sviđa: Na skupštini dioničara kompanije Berkshire Hathaway Inc. prošle subote još je jedan milijarder, Warren Buffet, izjavio da je ta kriptovaluta "poput otrova za štakore".  Smiley
Eh, taman kad pomisliš da si već sve vidio i čuo i da te više ništa ne može iznenaditi. Smiley


7586  Economy / Economics / Re: Stock Market and Bitcoin on: May 12, 2018, 03:22:57 PM
The concepts from stock market are applicable for trading Bitcoin ? Or I have to study crypto market specifically? 

I tried Forex market and crypto market.
In the Forex, you always must have enough money available in order to cover your loses in the market.
In the crypto market, you can just wait that price increase again, and do nothing.
I really like crpto market much more than Forex or regular stock market.
Also, in the stock market you have mostly financial institutions and big banks.
Here, you have average people, like you and me Smiley
7587  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Criminals and Bitcoin on: May 12, 2018, 02:14:17 PM
I have seen some news regarding hackers, terrorists, and other criminals using bitcoin for illegal trades.
How the police can find about these transactions?
Even if is hard to track illegal transactions, I don't think that Bitcoin can be a danger to society, since the problem is the society and its people.
Since the beginning of the internet this is happening ( the bad people committing crimes)  and no one is willing to shutdown internet because of that, so in that matters Bitcoin should be equivalent. I think those illegal transaction are one of the reasons some governments and the media are trying to depreciate bitcoin, but the problem is not Crypto/blockchain or Bitcoin, is just the society.

I heard similar news from my country.
Some drug dealers bought drug in the dark web with bitcoin and sold in my country.
It's very difficult to find such people since all btc users are anonymous.
I guess police find them in other ways.
Because of such bad people, using bitcoin for the criminal purpose, we have a lot negative reports about bitcoin.
7588  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should government consider bitcoin as a legal global currency? on: May 12, 2018, 01:38:34 PM
Interesting question.
OK, assume that some country really accept bitcoin as legal currency.
For the national currency we know who is responsible, central bank and government.
They print money and are legally responsible if anything happens like theft of money, abuse etc.
What about bitcoin?
Who can be legally responsible for bitcoin?
Local government, central bank?
What about legal protection?
No way that bitcoin can become legal and accepted as official currency.
7589  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: What permissions a company need in HR to run a crypto exchange? on: May 11, 2018, 05:56:16 PM
I am ok to discuss this in public. Because i do not have the purpose to "optimize" tax affairs.
I just want to know beforehand, on what legal requirements you can open a croatian crypto exchange.

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bitcoin is not recognized in Croatia as money or financial asset

If this is true, then even no regulatory at all is needed? Would be to good to be true...
And if so, i also would start a croatian "d.o.o."

Please check out more before opening Croatian ltd or d.o.o.
In Croatia we have a lot problems with bureaucracy.
If you want to open company in Croatia, you have to visit personally bank, tax office, public notary and Fina (financial agency).
You have to reserve company name and wait for approval from the court, 4-5 working days.
If denied, you have to start all proces again and sometimes people loose several weeks just because of name.
When you start business, you have a lot taxes and papers to do etc.
If you open company in UK, you can do it in a few hours, it's online process completely and you can check company name availability in a few seconds Smiley
I created several companies in UK and experienced it personally.
Also, there is no problems with bureaucracy in UK.
Because of it, I never considered start Croatian company even I'm Croatian and live in Croatia.
My first choice was UK.
Please think about it more.
If you have more questions we can talk in pm.
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7590  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: What permissions a company need in HR to run a crypto exchange? on: May 11, 2018, 02:51:24 PM
Just recently Croatian tax office send official opinion about income from bitcoin.
You have to report income from bitcoin earnings but, as I understand it, when you exchange funds from btc to fiat money, not before.
We are paying capital tax, 12 % plus surtax.
7591  Economy / Economics / Re: You missed all the trains, not just bitcoin on: May 11, 2018, 02:43:21 PM
I have read many posts of people saying they are sorry to have missed Bitcoin. But I wonder if they realise that there have been more than 20 trains out there that could have made them millionaires.

They have managed to miss at least all these, some of them as recent as July last year. It is not that you missed Bitcoin, is that you (and I) just missed many many others Roll Eyes



NXT          2013-09-28            +1084215%
IOTA         2015-11-25            +418179%
Neo           2015-10-01           +354482%
Ethereum   2014-07-22           +265772%

And the recent ones...
Populous      2017-06-24          +12181%
QTUM          2017-03-12           +10091%

Be honest to yourself... you did have a chance!

Thank you for this comparison.
Do you really think that all trains are gone and that new trains will not arrive at the station? Smiley
We didn't finish with crypto currency age but just started.
Even btc story didn't finish but only started and we may see much higher btc prices in the future, even below 100k.
I don't worry abut things I can't change but focus my time and energy on things I can do to change my future and destiny.
7592  Economy / Economics / Re: You're not wealthy yet, so you're not allowed to be wealthy on: May 11, 2018, 02:38:44 PM
I don't trust such conspiracy theories.
We are living in the free world and choose what we want to do with our lives.
With Internet and bitcoin, and many other crypto currencies, we are free to invest our money and time and to achieve financial freedom.
Nobody can stop you really, only you Smiley
7593  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is investing in bitcoins today late? on: May 11, 2018, 02:32:07 PM
It is true that for a long time the btc price stagnates between 7k and 9k.
I believe that until summer btc price will cross 10k and after that everything is possible.
I think that the same questions people was asking a few years ago when btc price was $250 or last year when btc price was around $2000 Smiley
So, think long term here and you will be on the right way.
7594  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin can drop again 7K zone. on: May 11, 2018, 02:26:59 PM
I think that the current drop in btc price is because of Mt. Gox Wallet case.
Bitcoin will recover again, as always and eventually cross 10 k psychological barrier.
After that, everything is possible.
I don't think that btc will drop back to 7k again.
7595  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: What permissions a company need in HR to run a crypto exchange? on: May 11, 2018, 02:11:10 PM
I think that you should send this question to accounting company in Croatia, not in public forum.
I think that I remember that one company run crypto exchange in Croatia as ltd company and they even find a ''hole'' in Croatian law in order to avoid paying taxes on all transactions.
Since bitcoin is not recognized in Croatia as money or financial asset, they find some article in the law that there is no taxes in buying and selling old banknotes that are no longer in use, so they used this as legal reason to save money and avoid tax added value Smiley
If you want to do business in Croatia, you can do it with foreign company, as non resident company, and without any problem open business bank account in Croatia and run everything online, or open office in Croatia.
I did the same thing with one business before.
Opened ltd company in UK, business bank account in Croatia and run whole business online.

7596  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Bitkoin drop!!! Ispod 10 000€! on: May 11, 2018, 01:59:43 PM
Ma ja to stvarno ne mogu razumjeti... Što natjera osobu koja ima XX BTC-a da panično rasproda sve što ima jer, eto, cijena je počela padati pa se useru da će ostati bez ičega. Pa kako onda nisu prodali kad je BTC pao na $6500, a sad prodaju zato jer japan i koreja istražuju burze koje ionako ne koriste ljudi u ostatku svijeta?

Iskreno, ima tu svega.
I onih koji su proračunati i točno znaju što rade, i kada očekuju neki pad, prodaju btc a onda kada očekuju ponovni rast kupuju i tako zarađuju.
IMa tu naravno i velikog utjecaja negativnih vijesti i medija, pa slućaj Mt. Gox Walleta itd.
Konačno, računaj s tim da je ovdje i hrpa vrlo mladih i neiskusnih ulagača, klinaca od 12, 14, 16 godina koji ni sami ne znaju što rade i njih lako ''uhvati'' panika čim cijena bitcoina počne ići prema dolje. Oni nemaju iskustva sa bitcoinom i ne razumiju da su usponi i padovi kod bitcoina normalni, kao dobar dan.
7597  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: 🧀🧀Registar tema u glavnoj sekciji foruma🧀🧀 on: May 10, 2018, 06:27:25 PM

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Svaka čast na uloženom trudu i vremenu da ovo napraviš.
S ovim ćeš zaista puno pomoći svima nama, a ne samo novim članovima.
Nagradio sam se meritom za ovo Smiley

Hvala na pohvalama i meritu!

Nadam se da će tema biti od koristi.

Molio bih te samo da napraviš skraćeni quote na prvi post kako se ne bi gubilo na preglednosti.


hehe imaš pravo.
Tek sam nakon postanja vidio koliko je to dugačak post, gotovo knjiga Smiley
Čestitam još jednom na ovome i pitam se koliko si vremena i rada uložio da ovo sve pripremiš?
7598  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What makes Bitcoin valuable? on: May 10, 2018, 06:24:03 PM
In my opinion, hope for better financial future and change of life.
I feel that many people joined bitcoin because they want to change their lives, achieve financial freedom, quit their regular jobs etc.
Some people even sold their properties in order to buy more bitcoin.
It's kind of faith and hopefully we will all succeed with bitcoin.
7599  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novi rankup sistem foruma on: May 10, 2018, 06:15:14 PM
Ma Meriti su odlično zamišljena stvar, ali ne baš dobro provedena. Ali mislim da nije problem samo u Merit sustavu. Problem je u cjelokupnom vodstvu foruma koje nije dobro osmišljeno. Ne može se dogoditi da jedan podforum toliko moli, kmeči i žica da joj se dodijeli moderator, a "bogovi" foruma niti ne trepnu. Što bi bilo da tražimo Merit sourcera jer, eto, članovi nam ostaju bez sMerita i još malo pa više nitko nikome neće moći dati Merit u ovom podforumu?

Mislim da i ovdje, kao i drugdje u životu, postoje podjele na ''velike'' i važnije zemlje i male, i manje važne.
Tako je to na žalost, u životu.
S obzirom na odnos prema nama, moramo biti zadovoljni da uopće imamo svoj lokalni dio foruma, i to će za sada, kako se čini, biti maximum koji ćemo dobiti.
7600  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: 🧀🧀Registar tema u glavnoj sekciji foruma🧀🧀 on: May 10, 2018, 06:11:00 PM

Svaka čast na uloženom trudu i vremenu da ovo napraviš.
S ovim ćeš zaista puno pomoći svima nama, a ne samo novim članovima.
Nagradio sam se meritom za ovo Smiley
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