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761  Economy / Gambling / Re: BK8 - Biggest and Most Trusted Brand. Asia's #1 Crypto online casino BTC & USDT on: November 02, 2023, 04:34:59 PM
Rather than discuss this kind of (KYC) thing.

Why not just discuss the game experience/gambling in BK8? That would be nice to hear, and yes we understand about these KYC things you hated it and we understand it. Now move on and maybe share some gameplay/gambling history experience or maybe an event in BK8.

You are right, because I'm join the raffle, I login to my account and see something new for PGsoft. Last time I played, minimum bet is IDR 1000,but now can bet more lower with IDR 200. i think this a good move from BK8 to attract more PGS users to gamble with lower balance. I'm not checking other provider to know may be have an update too, last time I remember netent and play n Go, have more expensive minimum bet.
762  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Saya ingin tahu cara trading harian di altcoin supaya terus mendapatkan untung on: November 02, 2023, 04:21:36 PM

Jadi menurut saya pribadi salah satu aspek yang sangat penting untuk selalu bisa mendapatkan keuntungan yang lumayan di dalam trading harian adalah modal yang besar. Tapi jika soal mendapatkan keuntungan secara terus menerus,tetap hal tersebut tidak bisa di pastikan. Karena keadaan pasar memang kerap kali selalu berbeda-beda, apalagi trading nya di Altcoin.
Tapi juga perlu diingat kalau, modal besar risiko juga besar. Kenaikan 0.5% dari contoh yang mas berikan, mungkin tidak bisa mengcover cut loss yang dilakukan saat terjadi penurunan. Dan, modal besar biasanya akan semakin membuat trader pemula lebih mudah mengalami panic selling maupun panic buying. Ketika analisa yang bagus dengan persentase 90% sekalipun, bisa tidak sesuai dengan analisa tersebut
763  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Apakah anda suka trading di altcoin yang sedang Pum? on: November 02, 2023, 04:11:48 PM

Kalau altcoins naik karena ada isu positif terkait Bitcoin, itu wajar-wajar saja. Dengan ada isu positif, itu memancing sentimen positif untuk membeli di antara para investor. Jadinya mereka tertarik untuk membeli lagi dan mengumpulkan lebih banyak koin untuk persiapan bullish nanti. Tapi harus diperhatikan bahwa kadang kala kenaikan itu tidak bertahan lama. Pada akhirnya nanti kemungkinan akan ada dump juga.

Momen bitcoin naik altcoin naik ini memang hal lumrah, karena yang dilihat adalah pair $USDnya. Banyak orang yang fokus pada profit dengan pair Bitcoin, mereka akan melihat apakah pair bitcoinnya naik atau justru turun. Hitung2an ini sering dilupakan, karena fokus pada pair USDnya.

Ada jenuh jual ada jenuh beli, pump dan dump itu bagian dari trading yang akan ditemukan,
764  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pertimbangan Sebelum Berinvestasi Bitcoin - Untuk Pemula on: November 02, 2023, 03:55:42 PM
informasi ini sangat sangat membantu bagi pemula, bitcoin adalah aset yang mudah berubah dan memerlukan studi menyeluruh untuk dapat memahami etikanya dan memiliki pengetahuan yang benar tentang investasi bitcoin dan strategi untuk diterapkan pada orang lain untuk menjadi investor bitcoin yang sukses.  informasi Anda cukup membantu bagi pemula.
Bitcoin aset yang mudah berubah gimana maksudnya? Bitcoin akan tetap menjadi bitcoin yang tidak akan berubah menjadi saham. Fluktuasi harga berubah benar, tapi bukan bitcoinnya.

Tidak perlu mempelajari secara menyeluruh, jika hanya ingin investasi, cukup pelajari pergerakan harganya, Ansa tidak perlu mempelajari tentang pemrogramannya apalagi blockchainnya.

Etika bitcoin itu apa ya? Maaf sudah lama diforum baru tau bitcoin punya etika
765  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Saya seorang pemula yang mencari pedoman di sini. on: November 01, 2023, 09:40:36 PM

Saya yakin member member lain disini akan sangat welcome dan care terhadap sesama member, dan jangan dimasukkan dihati mengenai perkataan setiap member yang menyakiti hati, mungkin itu cara beliau dalam memberikan edukasi secara tegas.
 
Forum adalah tempat terbuka, tidak ada kepentingan bagi member lain untuk saling sikut. Adapun kata-kata yang dianggap menyakiti hati  kuncinya adalah jangan baper. Mau debat kusir, debat serius anggap aja debat itu bagian dari pembelajaran dan kritik yang membangun. Bagaimanapun kita tidak akan pernah lepas dari pro & kontra. Yang akan selalu terus beriringab dalam kehidupan. Terima pro & kontranya dengan santai, agar berforum lebih menyenangkan.
766  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: November 01, 2023, 03:13:19 PM
It is difficult to say that MU has a chance to go to the next phase. And, this is normal because the club's situation is in a dire condition. I just thought, how come it took a time for so long to escape the memories with Fergie. Because since that era ended, MU is no longer the red devil. Because MU is no longer a club that its rivals fear.
767  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Most you have ever lost in one session? on: November 01, 2023, 02:33:28 PM

You can chase jackpot with just lower bankroll. This kind of loss will not gonna happened by chasing jackpot but rather with high wager bets that turns into loss. Probably he made a couple of bets that is too huge and lose them all.

I’m not sure what kind of jackpot you are pertaining but the jackpot which common being referred are those high multiplier hit and not just winning big by betting big since that is just high stake bet high reward.

Getting jackpots and free spins can be done with a small bankroll, but there are people who will think "the more balance, the more freedom to play to get jackpots & big wins". Even though this is the wrong thing, but people still doing that. Maybe they are forget if luck is the main role here. I once had a big win with $0.4 but another friend got a bigger jackpot with only $0.2. This case can be an example of big win not always need big amount of bet for some games.

Losing in one session, is not only @OP have an experience like that, since I and other also have several case losing in less than one hour session.
768  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: November 01, 2023, 01:20:20 PM
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Now many people are aware of this. Pioli is a very selfish coach. When many criticized the weaknesses of his tactics and that the players' habits and how to stop them were already known and understood by opponents, Pioli chose to maintain his formula. The longer Pioli continues to use this formation, the more his strategy will be destroyed.
769  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: 5 Cara Mengajari Orang Awam Tentang Bitcoin on: November 01, 2023, 01:05:54 PM
Saya tidak memiliki keahlian dalam memberikan pengetahuan bitcoin kepada orang lain karena dikhawatirkan mereka tidak mampu menerima dampak resiko yang terjadi. Tetapi jika ada orang yang tanyakan maka saya lebih menyarankan mereka untuk memahami dampak resiko terlebih dahulu dan jika mereka ingin melanjutkan investasi maupun perdagangan maka pelajari cara yang benar sebelumnya.
Memberikan edukasi ringan tidak membutuhkan keahlian khusus. Yang penting menyampaikannya dengan benar. Risiko, Profit dan Fungsi adalah hal penting yang menjadi dasar awal pengetahuan, yang mana ini menjadi basic knowladge yang dkbutuhkan oleh orang yang ingin belajar bitcoin.
770  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: November 01, 2023, 10:35:23 AM

Untuk potensi harga 1 miliar di akhir tahun, saya pribadi menganggapnya tidak mungkin. Tapi sama seperti yang teman-teman katakan, memang tidak ada yang mustahil, walaupun peluangnya sepertinya 1%.  Smiley


Untuk mencapai 1 M, bitcoin tidak hanya membutuhkan berita yang wah dari ETF dan Halving, karena harga 60K saja masih membutuhkan hampir separuh dari harga saat ini, fundamental yang sifatnya hype dan bukan masuk kategori fundamental kuat, maka Bitcoin di akhir tahun 2023 sangat mungkin menemukan kesulitan untuk dicapai. Saya rasa mencapai 50K akhir tahun saja akan meningkatkan geliat bisnis global yang care terhadap crypto.
771  Local / Marketplace (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [RAFFLE]Lucky Wheel X Raffle Combo Promotion, khusus untuk member Indonesia on: October 31, 2023, 06:23:52 PM
Akun BK8: linkgacor
Telegram: @uloemz
Pick: 9
772  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Tiktok shop tutup apa ekonomi akan berubah ? on: October 31, 2023, 05:01:27 PM

3 hari lalu saya baca berita [1] kalau tiktok shop akan mengajukan untuk izin berjualan secara legal di Indonesia, artinya bukan berarti ini menunjukan adanya tren positif bagi persaingan bisnis online di Indonesia tapi cukup negatif bagi provider toko online asal indonesia seperti bukalapak, tokopedia, dsb. Belum lagi nasib pedagang offline yang berjualan grosir maupun eceran di pasar tradisional terbesar seperti Tanah Abang, Pasar 16 ilir, dll. Ini manjadi seperti buah simalakama, 1 sisi cukup baik untuk pertumbuhan ekonomi Indonesia, sedangkan di sisi lain, Ini seperti genosida tersembunyi bagi pemasaran offline di indonesia.

[1]. TikTok Hingga YouTube Dikabarkan Urus Izin Buka E-Commerce di Indonesia
Bagaimana pun, ini tergantung dari penjual juga. Penyedia eCommerce sudah memberikan kemudahan bagi penjual untuk mendaftar dan menjual produk di platform tersebut. Tapi, dengan berbagai alasan penjual enggan mendaftar. Pada akhirnya, pergeseran kebiasaan belanja dari offline ke online seharusnya diikuti oleh penjual. Tapi tak dipungkiri memang, banyak yang mengeluh karena adanya fake review dan sistem ads yang pastinya dianggap sebagai penghalang produknya bisa dilihat oleh pembeli jika baru upload dan tidak beriklan.
773  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [diskusi] Bagaimana Cara Mengatur Waktumu di Forum? on: October 31, 2023, 04:48:53 PM
Sebenarnya kalau pos sederhana  saja termasuk easy sih om.
Tapi kalau sudah insert link, bikin tabel, quote, ngubah ukuran font saya sangat kerepotan karena harus memperbesar(zoom). Bikin pas krusor kadang susah, kadang tertutup juga Grin. Ya pada akhirnya memang tergantung kebiasaan juga om, siapa yang merasa sering itu akan merasa lebih terlatih dan nyaman. Tapi untuk time nya lebih efisien menggunakan laptop/PC. Dan kemungkinan misal TAB itu juga akan berbeda tingkat kesulitannya.

Memang kendala ini menjadi kendala yang sejatinya sudah seharusnya bisa diatasi. Namun, keputusan dari administrator untuk tidak memperbarui engine forum ini dan tidak membuat versi mobile merupakan keputusan yang sudah bulat. Seingat saya banyak saran untuk memperbarui engine forum di Meta agar bisa responsive, tapi belum ada yang di acc. Seandainya mengikuti tren html5, mungkin penggunaan di ponsel akan lebih mudah, walaupun perbedaannya pastinya tidak terlalu signifikan.
774  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How long to learn trading? on: October 31, 2023, 02:48:14 PM
If he said you need to learn for 9 months, it is actually his personal assumption. IMO, there is no exact time about how long we need to learn trading. We even will never stop learning trading forever because there will be always something new in trading. However, for learning about the basic things in trading, I don't think it must take 9 months. For people who can learn fast, I think he only need for 1-2 weeks only.

That's right, everyone has a different level of understanding, so each person will not have the same time. Someone can understand in 1 year, while I personally, to this day, am still often far from the analysis I made. In fact, they often experience panic selling. So, don't limit yourself because there are those who can master analysis in less than 1 year, but it's best to keep learning forever so that you understand
775  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and it effects on: October 31, 2023, 02:25:02 PM
I already heared from many people that gambling is not good, it can ruin you life, etc.
But i didn't listened to them and ignored them and now I learned my lesson hard way, like just deposit money you will not regret after losing, never chase losses, etc.
It would be better for new players(young people) to learn from others mistake who are ruining their health day by day and quite gambling or just gamble for fun and try your luck with small amounts,

But, for beginners they are quite difficult to apply. I'm not a pro gambler and feel that way. even though I try to realize that losing will always be losing, no matter how much balance we have, it will definitely run out. However, the emotions of beginners like me are often trapped by the desire to win and achieve loss cover. Even though I share a variety of advice now, in the past I was often eager to win and that was very bad.
776  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dangerous chasing losses on: October 31, 2023, 02:07:02 PM
Quote from: maydna link=topic=5471636.msg63082834#msg63082834
However, gamblers must learn not to chase losses if they lose. They can experience more losses, especially if they use more money.
Exactly, I have several experience, lets say, when I made a $30 deposits, I'm lose just in few hours. Because no money to playing morr, so I was stopped playing. But, after I claimed $4 rebate, I get $25 winning, this is something can be a lesson for us, no matter how much our money, win will come anytime if we are on luck season. But, chasing lose for winning, maybe we will get nothing when we are on bad luck season.
777  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 31, 2023, 01:16:45 PM
I really think that Inter will take the scudetto this year: they are really determined to take it and I think they will succeed.
It's the strongest and most consistent team, with a good coach who has been on the bench for a few years so I'd say they're working very well.
Will he be able to make it to the Champions League and Championship?
For scudetto, with current Inter Milan performance statistic, they are on top  potential to get it, the main target for them is stay consistent. I really surprised with Simone Inzaghi so far. Because at the beginning of his carreer, i think he may only able to manage low and middle tier team. But, experience bring him to become a good coach today.

UCL winner, for now maybe have a small chance, waiting for the next UCL drawing.
778  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can loneliness make one addicted to gambling on: October 30, 2023, 01:57:41 PM
[The responses and goals of someone who wants to gamble vary, whether it is fun or not, they have a goal, that's for sure, whether they are addicted or not.
Exactly, the goals is factors can bring someone to be an addicted or not. For reason people just have a goal for trying a gambling, but when he was alone, bored with his day, he will come again to gamble. Luckynot with him, from playing because he need something to entertaint him, but more losing bring him to play more. It's mean he forgetting the first goal and already choose another goal. If it fail, without control, the goal will be playing more to cover his loss. Inthe end, he is being trapped to become addicted.
779  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: October 30, 2023, 01:47:55 PM
Quote from: TelolettOm link=topic=1159855.msg63077868#msg63077868
AC Milan showed their weakness against big teams. In the last two matches in Serie A, they played against big teams  and they never got a single win. They were also defeated by Inter Milan in matchday 4. It indicates that AC Milan is only superior when they play against mediocre teams or small teams. With this condition, I'm not sure AC Milan can survive in the top 3 of Serie A until the end of the season.



This is just a beginning! With no creativity strategy from Pioli, next few match we will see AC Milan lose from a bottom team. After winning scudetto, Pioli manage to focus on triangle scheme. In case, AC Milan can't makes a single goal, Milan will do a long pass and its look like Milan won't trying to play with a tempo to find a good opportunity to scoring goal.
780  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Apakah Mungkin Membuat Layanan Exchange to Pay? on: October 30, 2023, 01:40:08 PM

Terimakasih buat infonya Mas. Mungkin karena di awal pemakaian Paypal duluan kenal sama layanan jual beli saldo Paypal makanya saya tidak pernah nyoba WD melalui Bank. Alasan kedua ya karena seperti yang teman saya katakan, kalau WD dari Bank itu lama dan ribet (waktu itu). Dan memang kalau pakai layanan exchange saldo Paypal langsung sat set sat set. Grin
Paypal memiliki sistem trust mas, kalau misalkan transaksi mas itu tidak mencurigakan, semakin sering transaksi, mas akan mendapatkan layanan yang lebih cepat. Saya pernah bekerja di salah satu situs berita dari luar yang mencoba ekspansi ke Indonesia, karena gaji tiap bulan pakai paypal, setelah beberapa bulan penarikan dari 48 jam, bisa dalam 1 jam sudah masuk rekening (hari kerja), asal penarikan dilakukan sebelum jam 3 sore waktu itu.

Ya, sama aja sistemnya mas, WD di Indodax dengan WD pakai voucher pada zamannya lebih cepat pakai voucher.
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