Nikolai Starikov - Why Putin doesn't recognize Donetsk and Lugansk republics

Starikov here gives some good insights into modern Russian geopolitical thinking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd1_o9pyehE

Before we talk about what's going to happen, I suggest we agree that feelings don't factor into this. Because we're going to talk about serious matters and emotions will only be a hindrance.
Let me take a pen to draw some things... So, what have our geopolitical opponents been doing for many centuries? They have a specific routine, check this:
India, year 1949. Our British "parthners", due to USSR winning WWII, are getting pushed out of the country.
Yes, the Indian people were clamoring for independence, but they could keep clamoring for another century if not for Soviet tanks in Berlin - and, more importantly, Soviet tanks in nearby Korea.
So in this situation, England and other colonial powers had to also show they're for freedom and equality, so they had to free India
So what do they do? They divide India into two parts. They create Pakistan. For those who don't know, Pakistan never existed before, it's an artificial state
The very name "Pakistan" was made up by Indian college students - in London, of course. The country was torn in half according to religious affiliation:
Hindus go to "India", Muslims go to "Pakistan". So, people get displaced, national tragedy...
What was actually done? India [broke free] - they created anti-India. And called it Pakistan. So when they lose control over a country, they make a counterbalance.
And then, simply sic them on each other, support terrorist organizations, and so on. Pakistan it a hotbed of [Islamic terrorism] even now, India has local terrorists and separatists as well...
I'll point this out again: When a land slips from their control, they make a counterbalance. India - anti-India.
Same year, 1949, China is gripped by a three-year civil war. In 1945, Japanese were kicked out, they talked for a year, and started fighting.
USSR supports Chairman Mao, USA supports Chiang Kai-Shek. Mao wins. What do the Americans do?
They make anti-China. They evacuate remainder of Chiang Kai-Shek's men, shield them with their navy, and create Taiwan... On the island of Fomosa. China - anti-China.
There are plenty of other very similar examples, I won't get into them now... Russia, 2011 elections. What did they do?
Navalny, Bolotnaya protests, "white bands" everywhere, discord in all political parties - Russia is on the verge of a coup...
The whole thing ended positively - Putin [was democratically elected] president. They lost the influence over Russia. What do they do? They make anti-Russia.
Where? In Ukraine. As soon as Putin became president, as soon as they realized they can't destabilize the country from within, they started making anti-Russia in Ukraine.
But, you know, they use "free market" principles. Controlled by them, yes, but still "free". So they were planning use the [Ukrainian] elections in 2015 and make them "free"
But, you know we forced their hand, Yanukovich refused to sign Euroassociation, so they had to go with the bloody, illegal coup instead - to blame Russia for it,  and create anti-Russia
So what are the prospects? Same as everywhere else. They make a counterbalance, give it money, weapons, and eventually - force it to attack
So, after the coup they started preparing Ukraine for a war with Russia. Is it weaker? Of course. But it's not a small state, it has over 40 million population!
If USA arm and indoctrinate them enough, it could work very well. And it's important to understand that they don't need Ukraine to win, they just need the war to happen.
The more Russians and Ukrainians eliminate each other - the better for Americans, so that's what they want.
What can Russia do? In Ukraine, forces appear that do not want this scenario to happen - DPR and LPR.
But they appeared on their own - that's important. We support them, however, because while they exist they prevent Ukraine [from attacking Russia].
While the people of Donbass are fighting to change the course of Ukraine, it can not turn to attack Russia.
they even, according to some Orwellian logic, buy [discounted] coal and electricity from the "invaders".
Can you imagine USSR buying Ruhr coal from Hitler during the war? Of course not.
So, let's sum this up - without emotions. If we don't counteract the American plans of creating anti-Russia from Ukraine, they're certainly sic it on Russia.
Together with the ISIS advance through Central Asia, we'd have on two fronts, the same way we were set up in 1930s - Japan advancing through Mongolia, and Hitler through Poland
By the way, for a long while Poland was supposed to be his ally on the path to Moscow - but then plans changed, so to speak
So, if we betray DPR/LPR, if they are destroyed militarily - the American plan will be brought into action
The fall of Donetsk and Lugansk would mean Russia is next, within 5 years or so. Direct attack, or some sort of border conflict. They have the perfect excuse - "Give back Crimea, [damn its population]!"
And the West will support this excuse. So, Russia's [geopolitical] interests, even without considering our nation's moral obligations - supporting our brothers, the oppressed, etc, -
without emotions, purely pragmatically, Russia can't throw Donetsk and Lugansk to the wolves for these reasons.
Now, another very important question: Can Russia officially recognize these territories?
If we do, the [Anti-Russia] scenario will be put into action: Ukraine will say - they are now separate states, we will deal with them later, first we have to deal with their masters in Russia and take back Crimea!
So, when DPR and LPR separate from Ukraine, this whole American scenario becomes viable again.
So, even if this opinion is unpopular, in the common interest of Russian world [all Slavic countries] , DPR and LPR have to stay part of Ukraine.
They are holding Ukraine back from being dragged into a war with Russia.
This is where our foreign minister's declarations about Ukraine's territorial integrity stem from, this is why we keep trying to get them to settle things by negotiation...
Because Americans aren't doing that great financially, either. We have to support Donetsk and Lugansk - that's 2-3 million people, and they have to support the rest of Ukraine - that's 40 million.
So, those that understand the rules of this game know what has to be done, and the hotheads among our patriots do not.
That is the difference between a commander on the ground, who has to take a specific objective, and the general in charge, who has to win the war as a whole, not focus on one spot.
Currently, D/LPR are fighting not just for their interests - they are fighting for the lives of 40 million Ukrainians who, if D/LPR lose, would be sent to fight Russia and die by the hundreds of thousands, even millions.
So Donetsk and Lugansk are protecting the Russian world as a whole - both Ukraine and Russia. So we can never "betray" them [and let them be defeated] - that would be the same as betraying ourselves.
Just like denying Crimea the right to reunification would be [betraying ourselves] - it would lead to riots in Moscow within a couple months.
So, when you try to understand geopolitical actions - don't judge based on emotions.
President of Belarus flies to Kiev - no emotions, calculate why. He says something about the dollar - same.  If you try to understand what's going on in D/LPR based on emotions, you won't be able to.

Over one thousand Ukraine citizens gathered in front of the US embassy in Kiev and attempted to pass on to the embassy workers their petition to Barack Obama and the American people, demanding that US stop igniting civil war and interfering in Ukrainian affairs; they also demanded the removal of US troops and weapons from Ukraine. No embassy worker came out to them and guards refused to take their petition. They resorted to gluing the petition to the embassy wall.

Posters in the video below and speeches are in Ukrainian. Posters say: “USA = War,” “USA – out of Ukraine,” “USA invaded Ukraine,” “Donbass.” They chant: “Yankee go home” and “Out of Ukraine!”

Notice how many people are hiding their faces from cameras!

I also want to point out how INCREDIBLY meek and polite all the people are. The ring leader, young woman in pink asking the guard to accept her petition, is especially polite and nice. She keeps saying “Bud’ laska,” which means in Ukrainian ‘please,’ or more precisely, ‘be so kind.’ No one says a word out of the norm, no one does anything even remotely unseemly. After neatly gluing the petition to the embassy wall, they even wipe the wall from any excess glue and polish it to perfection!!! See the woman talking to the guard at 5:15; see them wiping down the wall at 8:10.

I want everyone to note all that, because in the next video of the June 11, 2015 attack on the Russian consulate in Kharkov you will see the opposite picture!

Added: by reader request, here is a summary of the lady in pink speech and exchange with the guard:

In the beginning of the video she says, addressing the tall, blank US embassy wall: “It won’t be as you want. It will be the way it has to be. Ukraine! Yankee go home! Soldiers of USA are raping Ukraine, etc.” People also chant continuously: “Out!” and “Come out to face the people!”

The lady in pink is asking the guard how she could pass on the petition. He says she can’t. She asks why not. No clear answer – just can’t. If not, can we give it to you? He says he won’t take it. She says, you must have some channels of communication with those inside, please ask someone to come out. He says he won’t do it. She must have said ‘be so kind’ about 10-20 times during this super-polite inquiry. Then she says, fine, then we just want to leave it here, by the door. She goes on, “Does any Ukrainian here have Scotch?” Since no one replies, she gets the glue stick out of her purse and they glue the petition to the wall.

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Several days ago a Dutch parent posted two images from his daughter's school workbook on his facebook page. The schoolbook is "Themes in Social Studies 1 for VMBO-KGT", VMBO standing for "preparatory middle-level vocational education", and is a school track in the Netherlands, which is similar to high school. The schoolbook is provided to VMBO students (aging approx. 15-16 y/o) during the last two years of this school track.

Part of the description of the workbook reads, "The workbook is updated on an annual basis and contains many current and diverse sources with assignments." The workbook has certainly been updated, as Russia has been painted as quite an unfriendly country, clearly in line with the ongoing Western anti-Russia propaganda.

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The second image (entitled 'How free is the world?') is that of a map that shows how free (green) or not free (red) a country is. Russia is pictured as a 'not-free country' while the U.S. and Europe in particular are illustrated as the 'most free'.

Meanwhile in Kiev, an LGBT parade has been violently interrupted by radicals supported by the Right Sector. As Kristina Rus states:

   With one hand the Ukrainian government is defending the rights and safety of sexual minorities from the radicals, while with the other hand it is arming these same radicals with heavy artillery to murder the children of ethnic minorities in Ukraine, under the unwavering support of Western "beacons of democracy and justice".

This is the kind of regime that the Netherlands, along with its Western allies, particularly its 'BFF', the U.S., supports. On May 2, 2014, the Media Relations Office of Canada wrote: "As friends, allies and partners for democracy, human rights and the rule of law, Canada and the Netherlands will continue to work closely to support the Ukrainian people as they move towards elections to establish a peaceful government that respects their democratic rights." A fascist government that promotes the killing of innocent people, and doesn't appear to care much about sexual minorities either - which supposedly is one of the things that PM Rutte finds important - is the 'peaceful' government they've helped to establish in Ukraine.

Regarding Russia devouring Ukraine, the truth is opposite to what Dutch children are being taught. As the situation escalated in Ukraine, with many thanks to the Free West in particular, Russia has tried numerous times to ease the situation and has sent many humanitarian convoys to those in need in the country, and continues to do so. In fact:

   Since August 2014, Russia has sent over 25,000 tons of humanitarian aid — mainly food products, medicine and construction materials — to the people in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions, who have been suffering from a humanitarian crisis resulting from a military operation launched by Kiev authorities in Donbas in April, 2014.

This type of help appears to be seriously lacking from the West. On the contrary, they appear to be providing lethal arms to Ukraine in order to prolong the 'devouring of Ukraine'.

Nikolay Starikov: Estonia should pay back the money, for which Peter the Great bought it from Sweden 300 years ago

June 17, 2015

Nikolay Starikov

The Great Fatherland Party blog

Translated by Kristina Rus


Estonia presented claims for parts of Russia. The other day this Baltic country has declared its intention to unilaterally markup the border with Russia. In the temporary control zone on the border with Russian Federation it plans to install 760 pillars and 412 buoys on the water border. Estonian lawmakers cite the Treaty of Tartu of 1920, according to which Estonia has territorial claims against Russia and claims parts of Pskov region. According to the leader of the party "The Great Fatherland", Nikolay Starikov, Estonia has selective historic memory, but if you dig deeper, you find that it still belongs to Russia on legal grounds.

Nikolay Starikov:

"We are asked to respect the international law all the time. It's a great idea, and I totally agree with that. All we need is to determine from what historical moment we need to start honoring it.

In 1913, Estonia and Latvia were the acknowledged territory of the Russian Empire, which they joined under the various treaties, that no one can question. In particular, it is Nystadt Peace of 1721, concluded between Russia and Sweden, by which Peter the Great paid a few million gold talers for those lands, where the modern Estonia and part of Latvia are located.

I would like to ask, when and where our Estonian partners paid back the money we spent on the acquisition of these territories from Sweden? I am not aware of such historical facts.

After the revolution of 1917, which was a violation of law, the Bolsheviks signed a treaty and recognized the independence of Estonia. In 1920, approximately the same way Ukraine received "independence". Then in 1940, an agreement was signed with the same Estonia, and it became part of the Soviet Union. After its collapse, Estonia gained independence. But the question is, what starting date we should consider to comply with international legislation, as in 1985 the borders of the Soviet Union and the inalienability of Estonia was undisputed, exactly the same as the territory of the Russian Empire in 1913.

Because our partners constantly seek out those contracts, dates and situations that meet their interests, let's learn from them. My position is as follows: let the Estonians pay back with inflation over the past 300 years the money paid by Peter the Great, and then we will have no more questions for them."

http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/06/nikolay-starikov-estonia-should-pay.html

The news comes amid developments from Belgium, where Russian state assets are facing seizure to secure payment of a contested Russian debt to the former owners of Yukos. The company went bankrupt after the Russian government demanded that it paid due taxes that it had been evading for years.

The former Yukos CEO, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, who spent more than a decade in prison for embezzlement and tax evasion from 2003 to 2013, said he was satisfied by the decision of Belgian authorities to seize Russian assets.

Why is it a mystery? You assume that they supply the Ukrainian military for the purpose of defeating the Donbass rebels, right? But if they really wanted that they would send some really lethal weapons to Kiev. So far they seem to be more interested in the continuation of the warfare (as long as possible), not in one side quickly taking over the other...

Uncle Sam follows his interests, not those of Ukraine

What they don't have?
I look at Russia as the most advanced country.You will get to know about Russia's resources at the time of world war3

Let's leave aside your name and the fact that you are seemingly from senegal, yet pretend to speak for the russian people

So, I wonder how the Volkssturm is going. Any offensive in the works? I guess it takes tons of time time to make forces barely usable for digging defensive ditches and populating them capable of offensive operations. U.S.  trainers have been teaching those nazi wankers in the national guard how to operate AK-47´s and RPG´s since April, imagine that. Maybe there´ll be some fresh cauldron news in the summer or they´ll just continue shelling from afar. But for how long can that continue. At some point even total mob tools like the United Nations must be forced to take measures against prolonged shelling of civilians and other collective punishments by those Kiev fascists.

It's not democratic if there are Russian troops in the country throughout the vote.

If Russia is a victim then do you honestly think Crimneans would want to become victims too by joining them? Even Belarus is stepping back and the BRICS partnership is falling apart.

What percentage of the votes are going to Putin in the next election? Like 140%? You don't seem to have any understanding of the words you are using (democracy, communist, etc)

http://rt.com/business/266527-medvedev-asia-sanctions-business/

I think that russian counter-sanctions should be extended without taking any EU actions into account. No actual changes would be required. Just set some random expiration date from the distant future, e.g. 28 August 2199.

“In economic terms, of course, all those sanctions, introduced against us, stimulated us to ensure more active cooperation with Asian countries. Thank you very much to all those states that have adopted them,” Medvedev said to reporters at XVII World Congress of Russian Press Thursday.

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"Sixty percent of the world GDP is there. The whole global growth is mainly in the Asia-Pacific region and in the BRICS countries. Therefore, it is essential for us to gain a foothold in the partner states of the Eurasian Economic Union and the Asia-Pacific region,"said Medvedev.

Culture, architecture, food, DRINKS, sports, special events, Russian dolls, sexy women and gangsters.

About as democratic as Hitler when Nazi Germany annexed Poland... (returning Poland home to Prussia)

Choreographed? Russia admittedly annexed territory of Ukraine. Of course if you watch Russian news they will tell you they are somehow "the victim" in this story...

The sanctions should be lifted if Russia restores Crimnea and pays reparations.

During his visit to Italy two days ago, Russian President Vladimir Putin visited Pope Francis at the Vatican. It has to be noted that, while the Pope is obviously not fooled about what’s happening in the world – undoubtedly, his Argentine roots play a role in his clear vision – Italy as a state also is trying to find a way to quietly mend relations with Russia outside of the EU. It’s interesting that Putin’s visit took place directly after the G7 bash in Germany, during which Merkel and Obama sang a lot of anti-Russian songs in-between of sips of banana-flavored beer (not kidding) and vowed more anti-Russian sanctions.

It is also happening against the backdrop of the US trying to sneak its mid-range nuclear missiles into the EU, targeting Russia, and many other ugly things that signal the fresh push for World War IV (WWIV because, in all truth, we should really consider the Cold War as WWIII). But more about that in another piece.

Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi’s third meeting with Putin in the past year is a signal that Italy is attempting to distance itself from Germany and the US. Italy is obviously trying to wiggle its way out the crippling anti-Russian, and return Russian, sanctions. Italians have told me that Italian agriculture is hard hit by the quid pro quo sanctions.

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Still the Pope’s main interest at this point is geopolitics and the diplomacy of peace. And that’s where it gets interesting.

During Putin and Pope’s behind-the-closed-doors visit, which lasted 50 minutes – longer than prescribed – Pope Francis gave Putin the “Angel of Peace” medal. This medal is said to have the ability to create peace and protection, as well as the solidarity among peoples. The choice of words is very interesting: a symbol – ‘talisman,’ ‘wish’ – of protection and peace is being given to Putin by the head of the Catholic church. ‘Solidarity’ is the word feared terribly in the US, but used broadly in socialist and left-leaning societies, including South America and Pope’s native Argentina. Pope Francis has also mentioned that the Bible addresses not just spiritual matters, but also geopolitics as one of the important aspects of human co-habitation. The above language of symbols and hints, typical for the Vatican, thus reflects an important message.

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I just couldn’t pass this up! Guaranteed, you won’t see this exhange on BBC, CNN or Euronews.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and Turkish President Erdogan met in Baku, Azerbaijan, which is hosting the first ever European Games under the auspices of the IOC.

While there are African, Asian and other continental games, there were no European games till now. This was of course due to the fact that Olympics as such were born in Europe, therefore, the Olympics proper were till recently perceived as ‘European Games,’ if you will.

Meanwhile, DPR and LPR representatives have withdrawn their amendment proposals for Ukrainian constitution and declared recognition of independence as their priority.

                 Eight-minded Yaroslav of Galich!
                 You sit high on your gold-forged
                 throne;
530              you have braced the Hungarian
                 mountains
                 with your iron troops;
                 you have barred the [Hungarian]
                 king's
535              path;
                 you have closed the Danube's
                 gates,
                 hurling weighty missiles over
                 the clouds,
540              spreading your courts to the
                 Danube.
                 Your thunders range
                 over lands;
                 you open Kiev's gates;
                 from the paternal golden throne
                 you shoot at sultans
545              beyond the lands.
                 Shoot [your arrows], lord,
                 at Konchak, the pagan slave,
                 to avenge the Russian land,
                 and the wounds of Igor,
550              turbulent son of Svyatoslav!

                 And you, turbulent Roman, and
                 Mstislav!
                 A brave thought
555              carries your minds to deeds.
                 On high you soar to deeds
                 in your turbulence,
                 like the falcon
                 that rides the winds
                 as he strives in turbulence
560              to overcome the bird.
                 For you have iron breastplates
                 under Latin helmets;
                 these have made the earth
                 rumble,
                 and many nations-
565              Hins, Lithuanians, Yatvangians,
                 Dermners, and Kumans-
                 have dropped their spears
                 and bowed their heads
                 beneath those steel swords.

570              But already, [O] Prince Igor,
                 the sunlight has dimmed,
                 and, not goodly, the tree sheds
                 its
                 foliage.
575              Along the Ros and the Sula
                 the towns have been distributed;
                 and Igor's brave troops
                 cannot be brought back to life!
                 The Don, Prince, calls you,
580              and summons the princes to
                 victory.