It's voluntary. He made an offer. Nobody is obligated to do any work for him. If they do, they do it voluntarily.
Side question: Do you support the Minimum Wage?
This right here. We made our submission, disliked how he ran it, pulled out. It's as simple as that. Nobody is going around murdering everyone who doesn't take part, so there's no real place for going on and on about how bad it is. Either you do it or you don't; it's as simple as that. In my case, I thought we'd be a good fit because he wanted something *custom*. I didn't realize he was simply asking for someone to type "Flibbr" into a word processor and flip through fonts to look for a nice one, XD.
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- snip - Understood. I went ahead and passed it on to see what the artist thought, and she decided to give it a go for fun. Let me know what you think about this -- hand-drawn. Think of that as being a mock-up. Essentially the real version would be drawn in using a Wacom. - snip -
ranloThanks ranlo ~ I think this design looks a little too busy/ emblem'y ? But then again, it could look really nice once it's polish off with some gradients and stuff ? I'm not sure what the text is riding on and I'd say the 'L' in 'fLibbr' needs to be more defined so it doesn't get confused with 'fibber' like a liar. But I mean no worries, if she wants to polish it up and stick on the thread go for it, if not, no worries. . to be honest there's some really good submissions coming in [pm] and I might have to stick these on for public vote to help sway my vote.. so maybe she'd like to have a go ? We've decided not to waste any more time on this. Good luck to anyone who enters the contest though, ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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Up! Just to show an example of some work, here's something she drew up for Flibbr (a logo). It's a rough sketch to see what he thinks, but it should give an idea of concept art: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcoinfaucets.tk%2Fflibberlogo.png&t=663&c=eKgWeWxtyk7IGQ)
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You might have better luck picking a proficient designer here and contracting with them. In the design world we call this "spec work" because it is a speculative investment of time which may or may not pay off. This can lead to troubles for designers in general as well as contractors looking for design work. As a designer I think your fee is quite reasonable, and you should have no trouble finding a designer who will make the logo to your satisfaction. I would suggest you ask users to post samples and them make an agreement with one user. This method almost always works out best for everyone. Good luck with your project.
I agree with this. I was going to pitch the idea to someone I know that's great at art and logo design but I decided I don't want to drag them into something that may or may not even pay off. It sucks to spend hours working on something to perfect it, just to find that you get absolutely nothing to show for it.
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The sad part is that looking up the address, from the time the scam started to now:
Total Received 2.4495 BTC Final Balance 0 BTC
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Shit, I withdrew to the wrong address. Could you please send the BTC0.0453 to "1JxvSh6wFww5Cjd3waTtuS4yeYeDrs2CVe" instead of "18i3PzeDPMNAg9Kcux1hvyPnSoJ4yo7u7k"?
Sure no problem! As for per-day or per-hour. The advertisers are starting to pick up again for per-day. I'll see how this goes and wait for some more feedback before a decision is made. It's possible that what happened caused confusion. IE. the system started out as per-hour for some advertisers, so when it jumped up to per-day they may have not noticed that difference and thought "whoa, the prices just jumped up by over 20x what they were. I'm out!" I have the feeling this is what happened.
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How can there be a FEE REBATE if there's no fee? A rebate is a partial or full return of what was paid. Therefore a fee rebate means it's a partial or full return of your fees. If you had no fees, how can you possibly have a partial or full return of the fees you paid?
(Note: full returns can also go over the original amount. For example, there are plenty of mail-in-rebates I've gotten with things that paid more than I spent for the original items)
Huh? Coinlenders is a website that gives loans. You don't get paid for everyone withdrawal's fee. lol You get rebate on the interest fees. The highest allowed interest as per government regulation (without being registered as a bank) in most of the US is as low as 4% APY depending on the state. Anything above that classifies as being usurious (aka "loan sharking") and is a federal offense. Do you seriously want to go down this path? I'd much rather get fee rebates and actually earn something than get "interest" and it be worth almost nothing.
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Let's put it like this, without fees, CL goes byebye.
Ok, but I thought there was not any fee previously, right? How can there be a FEE REBATE if there's no fee? A rebate is a partial or full return of what was paid. Therefore a fee rebate means it's a partial or full return of your fees. If you had no fees, how can you possibly have a partial or full return of the fees you paid? (Note: full returns can also go over the original amount. For example, there are plenty of mail-in-rebates I've gotten with things that paid more than I spent for the original items)
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updated the OP with a few more things, not exactly a bump but no one is interested? ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) Looks like a good idea. The only thing is that for some of those skills, people would rather higher a specialized professional than a virtual assistant service. You know what I mean? Good luck! Thanks, I know exactly what you mean. I would probably do the same! But my services are loads cheaper, plus, a specialized professional would be busier and perhaps not have enough time due to the fact that they might be working on something big. Did I metion my service is probably 100 x cheaper? Thanks for your good wishings, cheers mate ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Cheaper in no way means better. There's a reason SEO specialists get paid so much, for example. In a highly competitive market, knowledge is everything. For those who wake, live and breathe things like SEO, there's really no comparison. I'd personally pay $100 to someone who can pretty much guarantee long-term results than $5 to someone who may or may not even know what they are doing, and who could completely screw up my site in the process. The same goes for advertising management. Someone who knows what they are doing can literally save companies millions of dollars over someone who doesn't, plus get much better results. So spending a little extra on that person ends up saving money in the long run. I'm in no way against your offer or anything, I just think it's worth being realistic. Selling yourself as a cheaper alternative in a couple of these fields is a recipe for disaster and you are likely to take down others with you. A lot of website owners don't fully comprehend how much damage can be done if someone is optimizing their site and does it improperly. Or spending $15 per user acquisition when you could easily bring that down to $0.50.
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Just curious. I.e, invest for a new site, help supply the bank roll. Wondering if it's allowed in the lending section.
Are you looking for a loan, or an investment? Well, it's a bit eh at this point. The development costs could be a loan (partially), and the bankroll an investment. Or, the development costs could be a investment whereas you get a certain part of the profit (this is a system I dislike, it's like hiring someone promising 50/50 profit split), and then I supply the bankroll. I currently simply don't have enough costs for both development + bank roll for what I want to make, however I do believe the idea has potential. So what I could do is just be a nice person and give this idea to someone who might wish to make it and has the costs to supply it, or try and get a loan/investment to help me make this site. I'd like to hear more about it, including the costs for both development/bankrolling.
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I vote go back to hours - my ads aren't doing good either. ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I have to agree. Or create an option to switch between those two and set the standard value to "Per Hour". That doesn't make much sense TBH. I highly doubt advertisers are that stupid, I mean, c'mon, it's the exact same thing... 0.5, 1/2... Apparently not. I lost a huge amount of advertisement 1-2 days after the implementation of the 24 hour system. It went down to zero 2 days later. Now it's slowly climbing back up and I changed my price's back to normal, but still. I know it sounds stupid, I cannot believe it myself, but that is just how I experienced the change. It's not really "stupid," it's how we infer things. 0.1 BTC an hour sounds a lot better than 2.4 BTC a day, for example. Smaller numbers are always "better." It's really along the same lines as the marketing gimmick for discounts. If you have an item for $5.00 and then offer two coupons: one for 50% off and one for $2.50 off, and ask which is the better deal, people will almost always choose one over the other, even though they are exactly the same. It's how our brains play tricks on us, :p.
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Bug report: when you have the sites grouped by domain, it doesn't sort them properly. For example, if you choose to sort by views, you will notice that some of the higher-viewed sites won't be on page one. If you skip to page two or further you may see them. It's actually a little odd how that works. Essentially each page has its own tier going from highest -> lowest, rather than the entire listing being from highest (#1 on page 1) to lowest (#x on page x -- last).
When sorting without the domain grouping on it works fine.
Thanks. Fixed now. Perfect, thank you!
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v0.12 released. Changelog:
1) When a faucet is empty, your balance is no longer deducted.
Thank you, sir. Now time to get all the faucet owners to implement the update, :p. Mine is always filled enogh, I probably won't update as it'll just give me a bunch of errors at first due to my PHP version. I have no issues with the ones that have funds. 3 so far have zeroed me out and left me with nothing though and that is bad on my reputation as well because by adding sites to my rotator I'm essentially vouching for them being legitimate. While there can still definitely be some scam sites out there, the damage is a lot lower when there's not a bug (or... missing feature) that zeroe's you out. The issue was this: 1) I earn 100,000 Satoshi 2) I try to cash out. Uh oh, the site only had 99,999 left. 3) Site sets me back to zero 4) (Others can continuing to cash out, so long as their total amount is under 100k) 5) Faucet owner adds in another BTC 6) I'm still at zero so those who haven't tried to cash out can, those who have are screwed and have to start over My personal issues are 3 -> 5 -> 6. I was thinking a public showing of how much Bitcoin is available on the account would be good as well, though I don't know how the faucet owners would take it. It'd just be nice to be able to say "ah, they're at 0.0001 BTC and haven't added more in 7 days, maybe I should wait it out and drop it from the rotation for now."
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Am I correct in assuming it's kept as fees? I think it should be clearer that only 0.0001BTC is for the Network fee and the rest if for operating/capital cost. No qualms with fees but should be clearly stated.
They charge 0.05 but bitcoind might charge less. It's how they make money. His issue isn't with them taking fees out, it's with transparency. "If you are taking 0.0004 BTC out that's fine, just let us know ahead of time so we know what's happening."
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v0.12 released. Changelog:
1) When a faucet is empty, your balance is no longer deducted.
Thank you, sir. Now time to get all the faucet owners to implement the update, :p.
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Essentially it works like this:
You can speak to up to 5 people at once before your brain explodes from overload. Someone wants to "attack" you so they send out 10,000 people. Now you can't talk to even the first five because of the overload, so you freeze up and become non-responsive.
In the analogy, the server is the person speaking to people and the people are packets (being sent by visitors).
Ranlo, you are AWESOME. Thanks! No problem, :p.
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UDP flood attack, > 150,000 packets/s. Host is working on migrating it, we do have DB backups and can move host if it is unresolved soon.
I still don't quite understand this--I'm very nontechnical. But I'm glad that you know what's going on, have good back-ups, and are working to resolve the problem ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I finally invested my first Bitcoin three days ago and have enjoyed watching my balance grow. Looking forward to being able to get back to my new hobby ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Essentially it works like this: You can speak to up to 5 people at once before your brain explodes from overload. Someone wants to "attack" you so they send out 10,000 people. Now you can't talk to even the first five because of the overload, so you freeze up and become non-responsive. In the analogy, the server is the person speaking to people and the people are packets (being sent by visitors).
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Is this still ongoing?
Yes. Hmm... Looks cool, dont know if i have room for it. lol You don't. Signatures are quite limited here in size. The competition increased rewards now.. I am tempted to switch out raffle one, since its not paying nothing out right now... Am I still allowed to keep my other ones as long as it all fits? It has nothing to do with "what fits." You can't have third party ads. Period. It doesn't matter if it all fits on one line or takes up 500 lines. The rule is still no third party ads.
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Bug report: when you have the sites grouped by domain, it doesn't sort them properly. For example, if you choose to sort by views, you will notice that some of the higher-viewed sites won't be on page one. If you skip to page two or further you may see them. It's actually a little odd how that works. Essentially each page has its own tier going from highest -> lowest, rather than the entire listing being from highest (#1 on page 1) to lowest (#x on page x -- last).
When sorting without the domain grouping on it works fine.
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Is this still ongoing?
Yes. It has been a month! Please pay to my inputs.io!
Still haven't received anything, and saw you had posted, so I figured I would mention it again. You must SERIOUSLY suck at math. Let me break it down for you: First post: July 23 July 23 + 30 days = August 22 (because July had 31 days). August 22 != August 21. L2math.
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