sandwich 🥪
the rise should keep going.
may we go north of 40k by the days end
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mean while big green dildo
37.4 and rising
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back from holidays, bitcoin can stop being a bitch now
some bounce maybe its up up and away.
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Well maybe we go nice and low say 33333 or maybe not.
I will be cancelling next gpu order for $900 as it has yet to arrive.
I purchased 500 of the cancelled 2500 order. so 2000 left and this 900 makes 2900 for dip buys.
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BTC traders need to be correct 501 out of 1,000 times.
Unfortunately, this is the common misconception with trading, that you have to be right 51% of the time. Complete nonsense. I'll try and break this down as simply as possible; 1:1 risk reward, requires being right 51% of the time to be profitable 2:1 risk reward, requires being right 34% of the time.. 3:1 risk reward, requires being right 26% of the time.. etc. It's never about being right half the time, it's exclusively about the risk:reward ratio. Different traders have different success and and different risk rewards ratios. The most profitable traders are arguably those that are only right 25-30% of the time, because they successfully target high risk reward (4:1 or 5:1). This is why I make low cost high risk high reward mining part of my mining ⛏ plans.
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Yeah. That's the thing bothering me. This is not exactly the V shaped bounce we would want... I don't think we'll get that till the Fed meeting. This meeting is the most important one in a long time, it will make or break the markets. Such a catch 22. There are a significant number of Americans that now will believe the economy is being torched on purpose by the powers that be. And they might be right. Or on the other hand they can also keep going the way they have been... and torch the economy. Yes but the second torching of the economy you mention is very drawn out, and also gives time to reform the system (lol, never happen due to corruption). The first is not an option, as it will trigger the system into a deflationary spiral that it will not be able to get out of (by itself) without serious destruction to society. Exactly. And some people, if they were able to gain power, might actually purposely pull exactly that lever. There is no question the USD is being disabled via deficits. We got off gold under prez nixon around 1971 and the next 51 budgets we are 5 black 46 red last 20 budgets all red.
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try sapphire trixx it may let you go lower.
also asus has a tool for clocking.
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Question for Phil when he comes online.
How is the current mining profitablility at these levels? and when was the last time it was at these levels?
Summer's drop had a large decrease in hash rate, this one doesn't so I imagine we are back to late 2020 levels.
Have not done numbers but it is down bigly. I have sweetheart power deal that always makes money (as long as gear is working) My deal is free power and gives ½ the coins. So I do better now the host does better in the summer. He did so well he is installing the 280kwatt solar array. But we are an exception not the rule. BTC was as high as 50 cents a th at peak about 50 bucks a day for a s19 ETH was as high as 20 cents an mh at peak about 20 bucks a day for a 3080 gpu Ltc/doge was over 20 usd a gh at peak all have dropped a lot btc is around 17 cents a th a s19 burning 3400 watts is making $17.68 eth is down to 3.4 cents an mh a nvidia 3080 burning 250 watts is making $3.40 ltc/doge is down to 5 usd a gh. that would be 2 L3+ bring 1600 watts these rates are really bad and may mean true bear has started (or not) That is a pretty big fall ETH in particular. 2 more questions. Where do you think the breakeven for majority of miners is? And, if these price levels are maintained, do you think we are going to see a bunch of GPUs heading to ebay? Nope. Its why I know I will cancel my 5700 or some coming in. I did cancel 2500 of it. Its not on hand. I do have. 9700 usd just arrived. It does 400 mh or 15 a day. It burns 800 watts or 20 kwatts a day. at 20 cent power that is 4 bucks . So 15-4= 11 a day which is a profit even for a person with 20 cent power why dump? Now I overpaid for these but my power cost is 2.60 in my garage. I net 12.40 a day I would need 2 years to break even but the gear is three year warranty. So why sell? What will happen is the 2600 price for a 3090 will get closer to 2200. But eth profits are still much better per watt than btc gear. It may be I return the 9700 in gear that is over priced I have 21 or 22 days to decide. But I may keep it. My in house price is cheap and my farm deal is good. If eth fades more like 1700 or 1600 maybe more good ebay prices.
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Question for Phil when he comes online.
How is the current mining profitablility at these levels? and when was the last time it was at these levels?
Summer's drop had a large decrease in hash rate, this one doesn't so I imagine we are back to late 2020 levels.
Have not done numbers but it is down bigly. I have sweetheart power deal that always makes money (as long as gear is working) My deal is free power and gives ½ the coins. So I do better now the host does better in the summer. He did so well he is installing the 280kwatt solar array. But we are an exception not the rule. BTC was as high as 50 cents a th at peak about 50 bucks a day for a s19 ETH was as high as 20 cents an mh at peak about 20 bucks a day for a 3080 gpu Ltc/doge was over 20 usd a gh at peak all have dropped a lot btc is around 17 cents a th a s19 burning 3400 watts is making $17.68 eth is down to 3.4 cents an mh a nvidia 3080 burning 250 watts is making $3.40 ltc/doge is down to 5 usd a gh. that would be 2 L3+ bring 1600 watts these rates are really bad and may mean true bear has started (or not)
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Where's the mass hysteria and crash in gear prices!? S19 is still $100/TH ... that's 22.7 months to ROI at 5c power.
Gear prices did loosen up a bit recently, but nothing close to their ROI/profitability in both fiat and BTC, but this is pretty normal, it has always been the case, gear prices go up very fast when the ROI goes down, but the opposite takes a lot longer, I still remember that right after the halving nothing has changed despite the fact that profitability was cut by half immediately, it took about 2 months for prices to adjust accordingly. Now compared to when prices were at +60k, profitability is below 50% given the difficulty increments, but for gear prices to fall 50% we will need to remain in this region or go to worse places for months, but then you have all those pre-orders and Bitmain does not seem to be in a rush to sell gears at much lower prices, so this time around things can be very different because of the big boys that joined the games, they make all the old Chinese mining whales seem like small fish in a huge ocean. One scenario I see possibility coming is that some of the larger players go bankrupt if prices don't rebound, all of those big players paid a premium for gears that they have yet to receive, their investors will want some return on the billions of dollars they threw at mining gears, and since we all know that BTC price can stay low for a year or so, some of those players will have a very rough time, also the selling pressure from miners will increase which will make things even worse for everybody, especially those that have yet to receive enough gears to use the infrastructure which did cost them millions and millions.With that being said, I personally doubt we enter a prolonged bear market, this massive correction wave will be over soon and prices will rebound, with that being said, since BTC price is nearly 50% down and gear prices are not even 15% down, it makes exactly no sense to invest in mining gears now as opposed to buying BTC instead. Fuck them 900 million for 110,000 s19's let btc drop to 15k screw those mojo's bigly.
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Hmmm my memory clocks can't be lowered below 1750 for some reason. Could it be the BIOS mod causing that?
and it could be the problem for the heat issue.
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i've tried them all firmwares by https://github.com/mekas17/fw non of them works, these are just old version firmwares. after a long research like 5 hours now, the only way is to access the control board and remove the pool locking file, no matter what version you put as long as the ROOTFS is there no firmware could change pool setting. anyhow, what i came to know to access SSH you need to have the password which if pool locking is there the normal passwords provided earlier by innosilicon t1t2t3 .. etc will not work as the when locking happened they changed the password. they only to sort this is by password config which is only done by linux, windows will not allow. another high cost solution is to buy a new control board which i've tried and it worked but again very high cost as it cost around $200 for one only and i have 10 which i beleive it doesnt worth it. i will keep you guys updated when i reach a solution on this Please follow up on whatever happens.
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What video card do you have? Some 5700 XT models had very poor cooling. 65% fan speed with your results is very good. If you don't like noise, then consider water cooling. A simpler option is additional cooling from the side and top with quiet coolers.
Sapphire 5700xt reference. Water cooling is too expensive and a huge hassle for me. The overall temps are pretty good I agree but memories go to 90 degrees celsius. Will additional fans on the sides and on top affect memory temps? you are getting 55mh = great. set ram to 1600 see mh and temp after 2-3 hours then set ram to 1400 see mh and temp after 2-3 hours if you drop to 50mh and 75 temp ot 80 temp it is worth it.you have to wait for a few hours time to be sure of temps.
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Where's the mass hysteria and crash in gear prices!? S19 is still $100/TH ... that's 22.7 months to ROI at 5c power. Well, I guess even if gear prices don't budge, if the price stays like this for any period of time the hosting market is going to have to open up some, right? Will the hosts be able to find people to pay $100/th and pay >8c? ... that's >2 year ROI. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMkZyFRW.png&t=663&c=16JcbB-06q8VEw) It 2018 they cracked on prices points and every did a fire sale of gear. We are not there yet. But creeping closer and closer to there.
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You're not wrong, but I agree with JayDDee, you're not paying the OS, you're paying for the service they provided to you
For me and probably most users here, we have few rigs, I use Hive OS for free, only in 1 rig, and I have windows in another rig, because I use as my PC.
But can you imagine someone having more than 10 rigs for example, using windows? It's a mess, you set windows to turn off updates and tweak everything to mine, and then windows make some updates, restart, have problems with drivers etc
That person can use Linux, but it's a long way to do everything, set a restart for GPUs in case they failed, or some problem with electricity, download drivers etc
With specific mining OS, everything is easy, in a few minutes you can set your cards, overclock, put the rig to restart after a crash, and you can monitoring everything in one place, it's the cost to this service you're paying.
i have more than 20 rigs and more than 8gh. I use smos which is a paid linux service. it would be next to impossible to run these all in windows. the main reason is location. ie i live 75 miles from the main farm. if you run with windows and teamviewer many times the rigs freeze and you have to reboot. if i run linux the rigs never freeze no mechanical hard reboots needed. also if you have 20 rigs team viewer will charge a lot.
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this belongs in the alt coin section not the bitcoin section.
if i read you right you have a rig with three different generations of gear.
1000 2000 3000
pull all the gear but the 1080ti and see what the rejects are just with the 1080ti gear running.
I asked mods to move this to altcoin section.
please report back results with just the 1080tis
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I cancelled 1 order that was for 2504. It was the easiest one to cancel .
so I now have 2504-400 = 2104 to buy coin with.
I grabbed $400 already and my $50 dca is in place.
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YEAH I may go for $200 more in a few minutes as I will be off line for 2 days in terms of buying ability.
Do that or set a few buy orders perhaps Yeah I could , but I have the daily $50 dca set. I can fund that the whole year with no issues. I need to study all my gear commitments to figure out if I want to cancel them. I think I have an over commitment to future gear. But that much of it can be cancelled. 600 + 900 + 1700 = 3200 easy to cancel ..............................2504 easy to cancel 5704 all easy peasy cancels I could return 2504+2504+4500 = 9508 they would be hard to return but that could be done. So I can free over 15k in about a week. The advantage of staggered orders of gpus from legit sellers. I will do the easy cancels ie 5704 = cancelled. the more difficult ones I will wait. Also need to check my silver holdings. just checked so far it is flat Do you mean cancel those orders and just buy the BTC instead? Yeah as with this price drop the gear now looks too pricy and btc looks cheap. I have a bit of time to decide. Till monday. pretty sure I will kill the easy orders as they did not arrive. (5704) the harder stuff to return just came in yesterday and last Friday (9508), but I spend tons with these companies. Stagger my gpus orders and I have not done any returns in a while. I will grab that extra $200 now edit just did. And off to NY to pick up my demented bro-in-law from Long Island Jewish Hospital, poor dude covid gave him a stroke in Jan 2020 that caused dementia . Early this week he had a seizure from the dementia medicine. So he is pretty much fucked for the rest of his life. Whatever you do take care of your brains. Dementia sucks
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YEAH I may go for $200 more in a few minutes as I will be off line for 2 days in terms of buying ability.
Do that or set a few buy orders perhaps Yeah I could , but I have the daily $50 dca set. I can fund that the whole year with no issues. I need to study all my gear commitments to figure out if I want to cancel them. I think I have an over commitment to future gear. But that much of it can be cancelled. 600 + 900 + 1700 = 3200 easy to cancel ..............................2504 easy to cancel 5704 all easy peasy cancels I could return 2504+2504+4500 = 9508 they would be hard to return but that could be done. So I can free over 15k in about a week. The advantage of staggered orders of gpus from legit sellers. I will do the easy cancels ie 5704 = cancelled. the more difficult ones I will wait. Also need to check my silver holdings. just checked so far it is flat
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YEAH I may go for $200 more in a few minutes as I will be off line for 2 days in terms of buying ability.
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