The emboldened text is about the only true thing I have ever read from you. The 100% indisputable fact is, nothing can excuse the restriction of freedom because the STATE IS THE NUMBER 1 MURDERER OF THE PEOPLE BY FAR. Do I need to prepare a list of state genocides? Open any history book. You keep telling yourself they have your best interest at heart tho, until they march you into those unmarked mass graves. The state isn't going to protect you from itself.

Just because you are a vulnerable disarmed subject of your state does not mean the world wants to join you. You keep that to that hellhole you call a state, well keep our freedom.

Denying all of my arguments doesn't make you any more correct just by denying them. You actually have to have logic or evidence. You have done nothing but repeat yourself. Speaking of repeating yourself YES IT IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU CLAIMED. You are literally just pretending you didn't say things everyone can look at and see very clearly you said... lets look...


So just keep changing those goal posts, maybe it will make you have a point some day. Again I provided examples of how guns can be used without killing but then you just changed the goal posts to questions about justifying having a loaded gun at home as if that makes your argument mean more. You also didn't address anything about nonlethal ammunition like rocksalt shotgun shells. Just brush the facts aside they aren't important, you have a crusade against "propaganda guys" to win!

You want to know why people should be armed? look no further than your own country:

"By the summer of 1995, three towns in eastern Bosnia--Srebrenica, Zepa and Gorazde--remained under control of the Bosnian government. The U.N. had declared these enclaves "safe havens" in 1993, to be disarmed and protected by international peacekeeping forces. On July 11, however, Bosnian Serb forces advanced on Srebrenica, overwhelming a battalion of Dutch peacekeeping forces stationed there. Serbian forces subsequently separated the Bosniak civilians at Srebrenica, putting the women and girls on buses and sending them to Bosnian-held territory. Some of the women were raped or sexually assaulted, while the men and boys who remained behind were killed immediately or bussed to mass killing sites. Estimates of Bosniaks killed by Serb forces at Srebrenica range from around 7,000 to more than 8,000."  

http://www.examiner.com/article/restrictive-gun-laws-no-impediment-to-serbian-mass-shooting


Don't worry tho! The UN/Police/Santa clause will protect you! No need to be able to defend yourselves! Just get on those mass grave and rape buses and everything will be fine. Oh you don't want to? Tough shit, the bad guys have guns regardless of your "gun control" laws. Too bad the law abiding citizens don't.




Oh your back! That's too bad. I thought you said you were ignoring me. I guess you just say whatever is convenient at the time for you.



Think about it for a second. How would such stats be collected? Are people going to call the police and report they scared off assailants every time they simply brandish a gun? Even if they did the police have no official reporting mechanism for this, so there are no official stats. People on both sides of this debate have however tried to estimate the incidents of self defensive use of firearms in the USA, and even the most conservative numbers show that firearms are used far more often in self defense than in criminal violence.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-12-27/how-often-do-we-use-guns-in-self-defense

So your retort is... once again repeating the lie that "the only purpose of guns is to kill" over and over and over in the same post. Very convincing. You don't like the fact people defend their lives with guns, so just say "because the only purpose of a gun is to kill" after each example of nonlethal uses of guns and like magic the cognitive dissonance in the rusty wheel-works of your socialist confirmation bias riddled mind once again can grind away freely.

Just because you imagine violence, does not make the violence real, hence the fact that self defensive use of firearms DOES NOT REQUIRE KILLING, even if you pretend like this is not the case to try to support your shitty unsupportable argument.
Anything that doesn't fit with your socialist conditioning = "a propaganda guy"

Repeating a lie doesn't make it any less of a lie liar. I already thoroughly dismissed this claim above.

Right. Funny when someone leaves a lighter laying around and a kid burns the house down, no one immediately blames the lighter and tries to have them banned even though fire is arguably far more destructive and dangerous than a gun. You know why that is? Because the media doesn't whip people into a hysteria programming fear of lighters into them.

The NUMBER ONE PURPOSE OF A GUN IS SELF DEFENSE.

So you are doubling down on your ridiculous argument that guns are only for killing? Let me list just a few examples that prove you are absolutely full of shit and disingenuously just making claims that are impossible to back up:

-deterrent to crime simply by having it be seen by criminals
-brandishing without firing for self defense
-target shooting
-hunting for food (or should we not hunt animals to eat because it upsets you so?)
-collecting
-shooting competition/skill shooting
-law enforcement
-animal control

That took about 3 seconds. It is 100% fact that guns can be used for MANY other purposes than killing. Just because in your twisted pacifist mind you only can imagine it being used for killing does NOT make it reality. As a result your statement below is nothing more than a bold faced lie you toss about as a convenient platitude that works for control freaks like you who can't stand other people being free and able to defend themselves.



As far as your shotgun comment... ever hear of rocksalt douchebag? Of course you haven't, why would you know anything about firearms, you have probably never even seen one in your life. You live in a socialist hellhole where the subjects can't be trusted with arms.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotgun#Less-lethal_rounds.2C_for_riot_and_animal_control

So you did not just state that guns have no other use than to kill people? It seems pretty clear to me you did, making my statement 100% fair and logical. Just because you get amnesia about what you said when convenient doesn't erase your statement from the record.

One mother observes improper gun safety = the entire nation should disarm and be defenseless. Yeah. ok.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/anecdotal

Also notice this article is published from Australia, a nation of disarmed British royal subjects trying to justify their own position of helplessness. After all, ITS FOR THE CHILDREN!


In most circumstances yes, anyone who allows young children unsupervised access to loaded guns SHOULD be prosecuted and potentially jailed. You don't find this to be worthy of criminal charges in most cases? Additionally are you making the argument that guns NEVER are used to defend life? I think you are going to lose that one.

I don't give a good god damn what you think or feel. Plenty of thieves convince themselves of all kinds of horse shit. You welshed on a $1000 bet to BAC, he warned people about you, you reacted by trying to ruin his reputation, it back fired, SO YOU TRY TO RUIN MORE PEOPLE'S REPUTATIONS? You don't know when to quit digging your hole do you? Kiss all that green on your page goodbye forever. Say hello to LOTS OF RED.



You know what gets you the most negative ratings of all? Ripping off donations to a children's hospital:


These were the coins justbtcme sent to BAC to supposedly settle his debt he claims he doesn't owe now. He presented them as funded, and when BAC went to auction them off for charity, he was informed by the creator they were not funded because they were damaged. Way to rip off those sick kids.

That red is NEVER coming off your trust you extortionist fuck. I promise. Your rating won't mean shit very shortly anyway. You should have taken my very generous offer. Last chance!

EDIT: Since we are posting PMs, I might as well post the one you sent me which is what involved me in this matter to begin with:

You shouldn't PM a bunch of people asking to remove BAC from their trust lists if you have a bullshit story like you do, it will just sink you deeper into the red pit of negative ratings. I am arguably one of the most vocal opponents of abusing the trust system on this forum, so I took you at your word and actually examined your claims as well as his. My conclusion is you are full of shit. Pay your debt weasel. Make a tax deductible donation to a charity of his choice, send BAC the receipt, and call it a day.

EDIT: I just got a retaliatory rating from justbtcme for negative rating him over his welshed bet to BAC. Apparently he thinks I deserve one but BAC doesn't? LOL. Everyone show him some love. Teach him...teach him all the way.

bring a video camera!

Do yourself a favor. Instead of nitpicking small business owners all day that are still bound by the same FDA standards as all the meat you get in your precious supermarket, try this. Get a life. This thread is for the guy to sell his beef. No one cares if you personally don't want it.

All you dolts posting here about how you don't want beef are the same idiots who sit around wondering why nothing good is for sale on this forum any more. The reason is YOU. So mind your own business and let people trade without being harassed by random bored neckbeards. Just because you don't find a good or service valuable doesn't mean others won't. Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean people want or need to hear it. Let the people trade with out interference for fuck sake. If you wanna be someone's nanny have a kid.

There is another user by the name of Andelin here who has been selling beef for cryptocoins for years and has been very successful at it. There is in fact a demand for this product and service, so all you naysayers step aside and let sellers and buyers come together to trade. No one gives a crap if you personally are not interested. Lots of people are, history shows this.

What you are talking about is pure FANTASY that never has existed and never will exist. If it does ever exist it would be required to be in the form of totalitarianism. Be careful what you wish for.

The only difference is those invading immigrants pay your light bill, not vice versa. I love Canadians that still think Canukistan is still some how more evolved than the USA, its not. It is right in lockstep with the USA, so keep talking that shit you are next

Did you eat a lot of paint chips as a kid?

Saying "false", and then not explaining your reasoning at all is not an argument. That is just you standing on a street corner with a bullhorn yelling your opinion at the world. Yes, more opinions my argument is "stupid & false", of course no reasoning behind it to back that up, it just is because I said so. You are right no one accused me of "bigotery", but popcorn is a perfect example of the hostility of the true believers who are "intolerant of intolerance" and think they are "evening things out" by attacking "the other side", when in reality we are all on the same side and he is actually driving people away from accepting homosexuals with his behavior. He is not exactly the best ambassador for the gay community (or the English speaking community either). I am glad you can designate him as "doesn't count" for me, otherwise I would have to make that decision for myself.

The fact is gay marriage effects everyone regardless of your denials. The law is designed to apply to everyone equally. The law does not verify your sexual preferences, it applies to all humans in the jurisdiction, and all humans in the jurisdiction pay the price of the legislation. Saying "false" does not make this less true, and denying anyone else a say in this situation is not equality, it is the creation of a "protected class" which we can not discuss without spiteful shitheels like popcorn on "both sides" of the fence demolishing anything resembling civil debate, thinking he is "winning" by doing so.


Actually, it makes it easier to criticize. Until the government got involved in marriage, the vast majority of them were successful. Now with no fault divorce, people (mostly women) are paid to break up their marriages and then either supported by their divorced partner and or the state. The government getting involved in marriage of any kind is a failure. Government involvement in marriage should be abolished for everyone. Now days more marriages fail than succeed. State marriage is simply a system to strip the population of its wealth by eating families, gay or straight.


Yes, like opposing government involvement in any marriage, straight or gay.

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I want to note that this was not my point. I don't support parents dictating someone's sexuality for them, nor do I support the state removing a child from their natural parents for doing so as long as they are not otherwise being abused. My only implication was that friends and family, some times direct dependents are homosexual, which has a direct effect on not only them, but all of the residents of the places where the law is in effect. This is why I did not want to give any examples because it leaves so much room for interpretation and slinging accusations. The point is the law applies to everyone, not just gays. The implication that it does not effect anyone else is a lie. Furthermore the constant accusations of bigotry, homophobia, etc placed upon anyone who dares raise this point is not only abusive but counterproductive to true equality.