I have accepted the fact that I lose the $4500 I put into this project. Oh well... live and learn. Expensive lesson, but glad I only did a small amount of Eth. Time to go to these guys' houses and deal some baseball bat justice  I'm sorry this is affecting your investment. I don't know you, but I've been in your shoes. I myself lost 6500 to 7000, but I think everybody must know where they are stepping in. The dishonesty and greed of this ico is absurd. For those all too worried about the fucking prices, just wait this hit bittrex, them you will be able to dump the tokens you bought there, including the ones you are doubling down in liqui because of the "fud". Greetings! What are you talking about? What are the 6500-7000 $? Everyone can see what you are complaining about, this is the other side of the public reprimand. Everyone can see that you have about 50,000 tokens, and you complain that you are not credited with about 5000 tokens. That is, in fact, even if you take into account the fall in the price from IСO, then your possible losses are = (ICOprice - RightNowPrice) * 5000 = $ 30. Best Regards, SONM Community Couple of problems with your calculation: 1. First off there is no way he could have lost $30 only. You probably meant: (ICOprice - RightNowPrice) * 5000 = $300 ICOPrice per token was around ~12 cent not including any bonus. Price right now is ~5 cent (yes 5 cent haha.) So basically (.12 - .5)*5000 = $350, but this is assuming he received his 5000 tokens, which is being disputed (you work that out with him, I am not getting involved) 2. Since he's disputing that he never received the correct tokens amount, you are calculating it wrong from the get go. Take the ICOprice * 5000, since he didn't have any of the 5000 for the RightNowPrice to matter. Similarly, when you are buy Amazon stock from a fake brokerage and never receive any of the stock that you were promised, your loss is 100% because you never received them. Everyone can see what you are complaining about, this is the other side of the public reprimand. He sent 4 emails. 4 emails. Instead of complaining about him complaining in a public forum, how about responding to any of his 4 emails and maybe, just maybe then you guys could work it out in a private manner. |
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Hmm I see a credit card picture and an ICO.
I will mortgage my house now for this ICO.
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glad the mess happenend, got the tokens with 50% discount on yobit.
I don't know why you would want to jump on this burning boat... From the get go this project has been handled less than impressive. |
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HI,
Is it possible to get ETH or Wagerr if send ETH after the sending period is over for the ETH when participate in the ICO ?
If so whom should I contact ?
I think you are saying you want to buy Wagerr. You need to buy it off an exchange, either DEX Waves or Tidex. ICO been over. |
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Ouch. Until they release the coin on Bittrex you still have hope. Good lucks.  |
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So here is the email I just sent now after being asked to send an email to yet ANOTHER sector of SONM. The part where I detail my problem with links to all transactions in all blockchains, and where I prove ownership of BTC address that invested, is below the initial part, all detailed and calculated, so there is no excuse at all to solve this. I don't trust this company, they should refund non-ethereum contributors who are unsatisfied just like they did with the pre-ICO. I PM'd the copy of this email to these sonm_comunity profiles here in forums also. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello SONM Support, Bonus and Info (I'm sending email to all of these addresses), Unfortunately you didn't solve my problems, they are crystal clear written below (read them below), and you keep sending me to several different emails without solving anything, your bonus sector does not answer and your support sector does not support, last email today your support asked me to write to info@sonm.io, you are sending me now to that place, then to that other place without addressing anything. Your support goes to forums to ask us to send emails and they are never answered. You lost my trust, the better you could do would be to give my 2.63136938 BTC back. You gave the money back to pre-ICO and even gave them 4 times more token, why are they so especial? You harmed ICO participants who invested with non-ethereum coins, who are treated like second class investors having the worst exchange rates and bonuses, and your company is losing credibility because of that. You released your tokens without solving your ICO problems, thus bankrupting all the ICO investors who are watching their investments going downhill in exchanges. You made us lose money. You helped pre-ICO investors, why can't you do the same for ICO investors? We are as important, or even more, than the pre-ICO ones. Why don't you give my 2.63136938 BTC back, and money back to non-ethereum contributors who might be unsatisfied and bring this whole charade to an end? (1º investment) I sent 0.63 BTC from my address 12ykdPSPBj8Yo7QNfXpEAwkd2LQrSWfYEA (signature at the end of email) to the address: 1SnMfzJef62gv4jByDijAa6mNRngYb9MR My ETH address: 0x9C9582FB1b6e1e22F4C09F86fDa41681241d590fAs you can see in the Bitcoin blockchain, I sent the transaction at 17h40m8s UTC https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/3e8514274752b18c369877ea5dff0779f70567763cd99fc2ca28231ad5fa1654At this point there was 7,5% bonus still available, as we can see in this transaction sent at 17h40m29s UTC, after mine: Ethplorer: Transaction hash: 0x9d8c3b414b5e78cd0d90dc13969f46644551ce8327e8bea529a230a66b284483 There we verify 2,944.726 / (0,97*2824) = 1,075, that is, the person got 7,5% more tokens. I sent 0.63 BTC and average price was 2363,71 USD at that moment, so I sent 0.63*2363,71=1489.14 USD (check: http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin/#charts) **Coinmarketcap uses all available exchanges to give the average price, you didn't provide any information over the exchange you used** Now, I'm absolutely sure that your website was showing exchange rate 1 USD = 9 SNM. This means my tokens should have been SNM = 9 * 1.075 * 0.63 * 2363.71 = 14,407.403377 I got credited only 12,376.8019546627 SNM, and even without any bonus this number is far too low. (2º investment)I sent also a second transaction at 08h04m24s of june 17th, 2.00136938 BTC. Below this transaction: https://blockchain.info/tx/8e7fdaedd1af60a5799dc6b3aac7160a37cd60c5486c210045e2a149a5aa86b0The average price of btc was 2549.07 USD at that moment using coinmarketcap. At that point there was no bonus anymore. But again, I'm absolutely sure that your website was showing exchange rate 1 USD = 8 SNM. This means my tokens should have been SNM = 8 * 2.00136938 * 2549.07 = 40,813.0451638128 You credited me only 37,740.00139638618 SNM. So my total has to be SNM = 14,407.403377000 + 40,813.0451638128 = 55220,4455015128 You gave me a total of 50,116.8033510489 SNM and then wrong bonus of 195.81214. My wallet below: https://ethplorer.io/address/0x9c9582fb1b6e1e22f4c09f86fda41681241d590f#pageSize=100To make things even I should receive another 5103,6421504639 discounting for the 195.81214. You said that you would respect the time the investment was made, as you can see above there is the timestamp of my transactions in bitcoin's blockchain, the first one with 7,5% bonus. I also think that the exchange rate SONM was showing was very misleading. IF it was not intended to be like that why show an exchange rate and don't deliver it? Obviously I sent investment in BTC thinking the price of BTC would be count using that exchange rate to give me SNM tokens. For ethereum was very clear 1 ETH = 2824 SNM, and right beside it written 1 USD = x USD !! So of course anyone would think that they would be getting that exchange rate with non-ethereum coins!!!! Bitcoin Address used to sign: 12ykdPSPBj8Yo7QNfXpEAwkd2LQrSWfYEA -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- My Ethereum address is 0x9C9582FB1b6e1e22F4C09F86fDa41681241d590f. -----BEGIN SIGNATURE----- IAE6aosChbQny1LvWP7smB2qWgTUCpjY2LEfU5f/NDfsLPCVeunKf0nAwuQP37kKIArwBAP5dg396vDBg1v7/Ko= -----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE----- They ever addressed you? |
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Is that what you call telling investors to formulate their own opinion? FUD?
So key isn't for customer adoption rate? Is that it?
Do you understand the meaning of the word?
If you take a closer look at the thread you'll see that he is an idiot and should be ignored. Yea. Will be doing that. Waste of typing lol |
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Is that what you call telling investors to formulate their own opinion? FUD?
So key isn't for customer adoption rate? Is that it? I mean if wagerr can pull off a successful platform for a betting site without customer would be the first. Lol
Do you understand the meaning of the word?
Anyway, will be skipping your posts from now on. Waste of typing. You are already doing a good job advising people not to take your advice than me from the way you write. I don't need to do it.
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I have a question:
When was the last time that you came across a coin that was this unique?
Dash Not sure how wagerr is unique, but IOTA is definitely gonna stay imo.
Anyone here thinks the Wagerr project is threatened by the new sports betting platform that Mark Cuban is investing in?
From their website it appears they are not direct competitors. Seems they are competing with skincoin more. Esports betting.
Is it not too easy enough to solve the puzzle?
To my fellow newbies, there are only two ways to secure your fortune.
I'm just a newbie like you.
Deleted the shit contents and left the things that matter to a newbie reading his post. Scenario is similar to taking advice about how to please a girl when he never had sex before. Pretty hilarious if you think about it. Haha. Yea, go ahead. Take advice from him. There are only two types of FUD here. 1) Fudders that don't hold any Wagerr who side the competitor coins. 2) Wagerr holders with greedy plans that hate positive news and info, but sometimes pretend. You can recognize their low quality personalities by their obvious distortion, miss-leading deception, self-contradictory speeches and hypocrisy. Some of their wickedness reflexed on their racism and self-superiority. No simple and straight-forward personalities are like them. These are all your robbers!  By your own admission you are a newbie. Stop giving out cryptoadvice. I don't have a personal agenda, I actually have Wagerrs. But those people who goes HODL!!! HODL!!! Gets annoying. Let the people formulate their own opinion on the project when Wagerr start meeting roadmap goals and getting customers (the key here for any betting site). |
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Is it not too easy enough to solve the puzzle?
To my fellow newbies, there are only two ways to secure your fortune.
I'm just a newbie like you.
Deleted the shit contents and left the things that matter to a newbie reading his post. Scenario is similar to taking advice about how to please a girl when he never had sex before. Pretty hilarious if you think about it. Haha. Yea, go ahead. Take advice from him. |
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Anyone have an idea on what price OAX will open at on the 29th?
Not sure but they might want to wait till after August 1st. |
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Yes! I'm an international chinese with no boundaries. You should thank me for using your language for your convenience. But those who can't comprehend my mind, it is their own arrogance and ignorance that have made themselves stupid! I never pride myself on my inherited thousands years of wisdom though I should. To me, cultures are merely toys for fun. To some, culture is nothing but self-stupefaction, if thy cane actually realize and face the fact. Can't comprehend what? The mind of a f*cking monkey? xaxaxaxaxa Dude you don't even know proper English and you are the biggest shitposter in the thread, annoying as f*ck as well. You haven't helped a single user in the thread, only shitpost 24/7. I just found a very useful option in the site, clicked the "ignore" button under your username, no more shitposts for me I guess. Everybody: Don't try to argue with him, you cannot argue with stupid people.  Making fun of a person's English = Pathetic and Ignorant. How good is your Mandarin brah? Or Farsi? French? Lemme guess, you are from USA and expect the rest of the World to learn your language, while you don't learn theirs? Real classy. I'm not agreeing with a lot of the rest of the stuff he said though, especially telling others to kill themselves. Cmon people, have a little heart. Haven't you known someone who has committed suicide? Wtf is wrong with people, why this hatred? Oh, and guess what. HUGE WGR/POLO NEWS out!!!!!! JUST NOW!!! Polo said once Wagerr has an actual blockchain and product, that they will list you!!! So keep on bitching about Waves showing you love, and giving you guys an actual 6 figure + market right out the gate. Ya'll got some waiting to do for your HVEs. I wouldn't have a problem with his english if he was posting something intelligent, but have you read some of the rants? I'm not from USA, and if i wanted to learn Farsi and post on a Farsi board with that dribble i would expect to be attacked (mind you, a beheading is more like it from that part of the world). Ignorant enough for you  Good news regarding POLO! He's a grade A retard judging by his posts. Everyone knows he is a shill, but a bad one. Good shill makes believable numbers. This guys post gives wagerr a bad rep/negative rep due to obvious shill attempt for pump. |
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What's this coin burning about? Is it going to shrink the total supply? If so, the price per WGR in USD is going to hit 1M, no?
Yes, part of the fees will be burned. But there will be 2m coins per year minted for those who stake their coins iirc. So eventually the total supply will hit a balance point and hopefully it should help keep the price a bit more stable later on. Exactly! By theoretical estimation, when the platform is fully functioned where Wagerr is widely used for most of the world sport events and national sport events in different countries, its price would turn into 10 thousand dollars plus after one year. I told my friends about this and they all laughed their shit out. So I tried a few estimations again from different angles. But the result still turned out more or less the same. All I can explain is, perhaps when team designed the value-coupling economics, they mistakenly expected the 1-2% burning as an annual shrinkage, but had forgotten that the 1-2% burning could repeat thousands of times within a year. If I'm correct, this is going to turn out as the funniest economics joke in human history! And this is my most serious post on this forum so far.  Lay down the pipe. Wagerr isn't going to get Amazon type traffic or networth. Pretty sure you are trolling at this point if you consider that post serious. Traffic is the only aspect that can't be estimated by numbers. It totally depends on the platform's and the coin's functionalities to the bettors, and how it is being marketed. Why can't traffic be estimated by numbers? What kind of shit are you on, seriously. Being a believer in a project is one thing. Being a retard is another. Don't go around mouthing stupid shits like Wagerr will go to $10,000 per Wagerr to your friends. You will get them to look at you strange. And not everyone who gamble will use Wagerr. The beauty of Wagerr is that it has low market cap. Just focus on that instead of thinking your 5 cent wagerr will buy you a car. You should be happy with $10 if we ever get there. Everything is already spelled out in the white papers and the website. Someone even made a calculator. http://wagerr-calc.com/growth.htmlhttp://wagerr-calc.com |
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What's this coin burning about? Is it going to shrink the total supply? If so, the price per WGR in USD is going to hit 1M, no?
Yes, part of the fees will be burned. But there will be 2m coins per year minted for those who stake their coins iirc. So eventually the total supply will hit a balance point and hopefully it should help keep the price a bit more stable later on. Exactly! By theoretical estimation, when the platform is fully functioned where Wagerr is widely used for most of the world sport events and national sport events in different countries, its price would turn into 10 thousand dollars plus after one year. I told my friends about this and they all laughed their shit out. So I tried a few estimations again from different angles. But the result still turned out more or less the same. All I can explain is, perhaps when team designed the value-coupling economics, they mistakenly expected the 1-2% burning as an annual shrinkage, but had forgotten that the 1-2% burning could repeat thousands of times within a year. If I'm correct, this is going to turn out as the funniest economics joke in human history! And this is my most serious post on this forum so far. Lay down the pipe. Wagerr isn't going to get Amazon type traffic or networth. Pretty sure you are trolling at this point if you consider that post serious. |
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The ico price was 4800 sat now is less than 1700 sat? where the sonm team come from Ukraina or Russia? if so i undestood why.......  Hold your horses, you will buy it below 1000 sat, wait and see  7 days and we have a shitcoin Lol, that the best... Would you like to trade some shitcoins with me Still hoping getting on bittrex lessen the pain. But there will be so many sellers to get away from this shit show that I am not sure I can fit through the door. |
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I truly hate these people (trolls), all they do is spreading shits here. This is the most amazing project, however, team deleted us from telegram, slack.
Hold Hold
Fuck fudders, fuck sonm telegram/slack manager
You got banned by sonm_community too? Welcome to the club. There are quite a few of us here. Not that I care to join that circus anymore, but you could see how bad the team is if slack is a representation of sonm. Total fuck ups. |
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I truly hate these people (trolls), all they do is spreading shits here. This is the most amazing project, however, team deleted us from telegram, slack.
Hold Hold
Fuck fudders, fuck sonm telegram/slack manager
Hello, I am one of the Community Managers for SONM There have been bans. However they are related to threats, spammers, people who spread lies/false information, etc. We are not banning people simply for giving criticism, we understand that there is/will be criticism. If you feel that you were wrongly banned, you can PM me Best, SONM Community Management Team Or in some cases asking moderators to be more professional. God the entire team fking suckass. |
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What's the reason why this is below ICO almost 50%? Bonus sell off, bugs, issues? This reminds me of Golem post ICO, it doubled up short term only to drop close to ICO before 10x.
Probably because they can't even distribute tokens correctly/get ICO right/Retro-screw preico investors/shitty moderators. This is nothing like Golem. Golem acts professional. These guys don't even try. |
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Appreciate it being an additional exchange regardless of volume. Thanks . |
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