Your solution makes no sense.  If CoinDash refunds ETH to the Whitelist, they will have no funds to actually create the product rendering CDT absolutely worthless instead of just largely reduced in value (as it is currently).  Your solution also implies that those who sent to the incorrect address on the OFFICIAL website are at fault and should just be screwed over.  This would make the CoinDash team look even worse by giving their friends and angel investors (whitelist people) full refunds and quitting on the general public who invested.  Not smart.

I can't believe they have not offered a refund to people who have sent to the whitelisted address it's ridiculous the eth they raised through that address was under 250 what can they possibly do with that eth that will help the project it is a tiny amount of money in the grand scheme of things but yet they won't refund. I bet Taas fund will get a refund for their 500 eth.

They could easily set up a smart contract where people send back their CDT and get their eth equivalent in return that would be fair.

@MysteriumNetwork why you created that thread if you don't use it to respond to your community and investors?

Don't release junk because first impression matter too much, if you don't want FUD, don't release buggy, junk.

Your article is like "security for 12 year olds", the entire VPN business is a scam...
Allowing a 3rd party to install a keylogger and keep 100% of your traffic forever is "fake security".

https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29

There is NO WAY for you to verify anything that a VPN service claims to do.

That's why MYST behavior is so troubling... it's a 100% trust-based business...
So you want the Devs to be known, highly qualified and dead serious...
Unlike, say, the complete idiots behind VPNcoin who are basically some random Chinese gamblers. 

found the video. Interesting enough the price has fallen even faster since they released this video.

They are very clear to everybody! All bullshit talk by you MF fud talkers...if you don't trust, go invest in MOONcoin and other projects...get a life!

SONM UPDATE
Live Stream with Sergey Ponomarev, SONM founder, on our youtube channel at approx.16:30 UTC. Stay tuned.
Link below
http://goo.gl/HJCHuu

This is very hight volume for tidex! I don't like tidex at all, I hope it Wager will be listed on Liqui soon, this is much better exchange!

I was always suspicious of that coin, the project does not need a blockchain, for a service that is only renting space or something, maybe you can get some earnings since it is stated the price for the coin was low, but to be honest I don’t see how this coin could become a coin with more than a billion dollars in market cap, maybe I’m wrong but that is what I think

Make sure everyone is adding 2FS authentication, one more layer of security in all exchanges.

How much did MYST cost during the ICO and Presale?

Valuation is relative and most of the value of these tokens come from speculation. I think the ALtcoin market is over valued, how many of these tokens actually has a working platform talkless of generating revenue. Most of these projects will soon go under soon because they won't be able to generate revenue to support their working capital and you will be surprise to see the burn rate of these projects, very ridiculous

Yeah a year or so will make it much stronger if there is no serious competition i believe. But i strongly doubt that there will be no REALLY SERIOUS competition in their market.

^^^If you like Sonm regardless the price going down short-term is ideal.  I'm not so sure all of this is "hurting" the price when alot of things are crashing, plus Sonm just isn't that liquid right now and that likely plays a part.

Only thing I'd really say about Almeida vs Sonm bonus support:  I think people overrate dev on this forum and undervalue the importance of good business practices.  There's a back and forth of each side not wanting to get taken advantage of.  Almeida feels he has a legit case, and Sonm team is probably thinking "we get all these spam e-mails as it is trying to get us for bonuses that are not due".  I'm not saying whose right or wrong, but in the huge scope of things 5k tokens is NOTHING for SONM team and it would improve the business image, but I'm not the business.

Regardless, Sonm team, I think it's important you remember that even when Almeida's attacking you as a frustrated customer/investor, you have to keep a mindset of quality customer service in mind.  Even if you disagree and want to refute what he says, personal/subliminal shots shouldn't becoming from the business (your) side of the argument.  While I wish they wouldn't come from the investor/customer side as often as they do on this forum, at the end of the day that side of the argument kinda has the right to get verbally abrasive.

I'm kinda sick of reading your posts, but I understand your feelings.

I still think you should atleast deal via PM's here instead of writing all your crypto-life here on this thread. It stresses me to read your 4541 lines long of "give me my 5k tokens !" (shortened version).

But I get your rage too. Anyway, good luck, and please, if they respond of course, use PM here.

There is no classical mistake as you didn't say anywhere what would be the timestamp or criteria, you are conveniently choosing the time you imputed the transactions manually as will be clear from my comments below.


Yes I know that and my second transaction, the one I got more losses because of you, had 18 confirmations when I sent to your support an email saying I could not see it through. So you are not telling the truth as it will be clear below.

Only hours later the tokens were moved to my wallet, and your support sent me an email saying "hey, here is your tokens" right after the time the tokens were sent, just really right after, thus suggesting very strongly you did it manually.


Again, you didn't explain it anywhere and, again, I know very well tokens were not sent after 3 confirmations simply because I had much more than this and only hours after you sent the tokens. Looking at the very same links you posted below this will be proven.

Of course it makes sense that the tokens are sent within some confirmation in BTC blockchain, of course. But you didn't establish any parameter and you even said here that the timestamp of transaction would be counted. That's why I took the trouble to calculate for you the numbers you yourself, based on your own said parameters, could not calculate alone. Granted, not even the mined block time was respected by you as we will see below.


You don't need to believe, it is in the blockchain so anyone can check. Since you like proofs, how about a real proof looking at my second transaction?

https://blockexplorer.com/tx/8e7fdaedd1af60a5799dc6b3aac7160a37cd60c5486c210045e2a149a5aa86b0

Look at the time it was mined: 2017-06-17 08:05:32 AM UTC.

Now look at the time you gave me tokens here:

https://ethplorer.io/tx/0xc35b15f53bf9a38586d4c86fdef227bca431a0e10fef0c279fdae9636b94685b#pageSize=100

You sent me tokens at 2017-06-17 12:46:20 PM UTC, almost 5 hours after my confirmation!! How do you explain that now??? This shows without any doubt you gave tokens the moment you chose, thus turning what could be a technical mistake in a convenient form of delivering less tokens, that's the only conclusion since you are incapable of admitting your mistakes and the big mess in your ICO.


Do you think I and others are idiots? 10:34:09 PM +UTC is the time YOU imputed the transaction in ethereum blockchain. Do you really want to use the very thing I'm complaining about as an argument against me? Haha!

By your own example we see again how you screwed up the ICO. You sent those tokens only in Jun 15 at 10:34:09 PM UTC, but my transaction was mined in Jun 15 at 8:15:31 PM UTC. So, again, how full of bullshit are you? I'm so glad everybody is seeing how you guys lie and try to manipulate.

And you say I deliberately mislead everyone? You are a bunch of incompetent brats who got caught and now put the blame in who caught you. It is right there the time I sent the money, 17:40:08 UTC, there is nothing false about what I said moron, you came here and in slack to say the timestamp of transaction would be respected, the transaction was sent 17:40:08 UTC, period.

You, on the contrary, is deceiving people here on daily basis saying things will be solved in 1 or 2 days, for how long? Weeks. Then you say bonuses are solved, then they are not solved anymore. Geez! You just got busted once more above. Even disregarding the transaction time, and considering mined blocks time as YOU YOURSELF want, you sent me the tokens hours after, 2 hours and 19 minutes for the first one, 4 hours and 41 minutes for the second. The second I even had it accelerated half dozen times.

Let me put yet another proof of my honesty. The second transaction I asked for a time which was WORSE for me in BTC price, the price of BTC was worse the time I sent the transaction in comparison with the time you imputed it manually: 2549.07 USD was what I asked for the transaction at 08h04m24s AM of june 17th, you sent me tokens at 12:46:20 PM and BTC price was 2596.03 USD. Why I did it? Because I didn't want to con you, I want to put a fair request and that you gave me the correct exchange rate. How do you like them apples?


Yeah and you chose the worst exchange rate to give to me. That's why you keep ignoring the exchange rate issue. Why didn't you comment on that??? What was the exchange rate you used, hmm?


Be more honest! Respect your investors! Give the money back and show you are not a greedy liar!

Deal:  0x9C9582FB1b6e1e22F4C09F86fDa41681241d590f

In principle, there are several advantages to this project.
The most important is anonymity. That is, to pay for services, you will not need to disclose your credit card numbers and data, for example. This is very good for the participants. The second plus: this is what all this will be on the blockchain.
Well and safety for mutual payments too.
Otherwise the same dating sites.