togo next wrong/mistake ....
funny,when main dev dont know why dropped reward from MN
last days with PODC i getting 4950 BBP and last 2 days dropped to 4500 BBP
My payments were ~4900 for the past 3 days. Rob, when the # of masternodes go up, does the payment amount decrease or the payment frequency. Mike, I think you're are talking about different think. Yes with increasing of MN # the frequency of payments decrease, but Slovakia is asking about value of reward. I think, that Togo hit the nail with those reward change with PODC, but it changed a days before. I was looking on explorer for rewards and it is changing from block to block. I don't know why. I thought that it is somewat based on current diff, but on explrer it looks that diff is the same, but block reward is still changing. Now it starts to be interresting for me too, why it is still changing Is there some formula for block reward? Yeah, i understand it better now. I knew he was talking about the amount though but I don't know why he is getting a different amount than I am. I'm guessing it's partly because we got paid on different blocks.
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tmike freq looool.... this is pure math..... on DASH working this style .... may be DIFF doing problems with rewards, but i cant find formula in white paper for this .....
when investors wans check this,they have to be horrified
Yes, I was wrong, jaapgvk cleared that up.
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togo next wrong/mistake ....
funny,when main dev dont know why dropped reward from MN
last days with PODC i getting 4950 BBP and last 2 days dropped to 4500 BBP
My payments were ~4900 for the past 3 days. Rob, when the # of masternodes go up, does the payment amount decrease or the payment frequency.
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The community has voted for April to be the PR Spokesperson but I haven't seen her do anything. It would be nice if she could give an update on the work she is doing.
Shes working on the messaging of BiblePay, mission statement, boilerplate, and also website layout, and shes also done research into news organizations we can reach out to What should be our boilerplate: our 'standard description'? http://forum.biblepay.org/index.php?topic=139.0Thanks Togo, I saw the boilerplate forum. I would just like it better if she posted updates.
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So on that project no one has actually touched it yet and a lot has changed since the last time I took a look at providers, but here is a good article on who is affected: https://coinvigilance.com/update-on-bitcoin-debit-cards-post-visa-ban-of-wavecrest/We might not want to work on this until our market depth surpasses more than 2 BTC per day in trading otherwise these providers will probably laugh at us. But if you want to secure a provider and a minimum liquidity level, and a gentlements agreement then go for it. Another thing to look at is XML Gold to see if it actually works. We are trying to advertise some type of interface for the unbanked of the world to buy groceries with their mobile BBP wallet, lets say they cancer mine for a month and wants to buy $10 of groceries in native currency with a debit card for example. If we have to put it off then we might have to focus on getting on the next exchange, in the mean time if that is the case you could start some kind of PR campaign to maybe airdrop BBP to invite new users in so we grow more first. When you said "IE due diligence for debit cards", we are talking about the same thing right? Yeah, we need more PR. The community has voted for April to be the PR Spokesperson but I haven't seen her do anything. It would be nice if she could give an update on the work she is doing.
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bible_pay so? ROBOT oni-chann and his destroying this concept with ROSETTA? any steps from your side?
There is no evidence that oni-chan has been able to disrupt Rosetta project task queue. The only evidence we have is Rosetta ran out of tasks Once so far, on a weekend, and had the tasks queue back up within 12 hours on Monday. The official response is: Let us make the assumption that the smart people at Rosetta will see that the scheduler ran out of tasks and will be more proactive in the future about keeping the task queue full. I will wait until I see another Rosetta outage before making any assumptions that Biblepay needs to expand PODC to include a backup project. Depending on how much time passes between now and the next outage, if it ends up being a short period of time, then together we can scan for a Christian approved backup project, and *potentially* code that in as a backup. But currently, the backup plan is to turn on Disaster Recovery mode 4 which is heat-mining in the case of an outage. (PODC does not have a second boinc project, nor any facility or mode to move into a backup project currently, and that is not slated in the development queue or planned). The development roadmap is very clear that the next project has to do with a Stratis proof of concept UI, and other finance related projects (IE due diligence for debit cards). We are also talking in the background about a huge potential project that could bring billions in for our orphans. I want to help the orphans with the most magnitude possible, so the development time has to be focused on the most opportunity-for-orphan per hour. Rob, who is the lead on the debit cards part and what can I do to help.
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Well, even if each task is sent to multiple computers (2?), in case we have limited amount of tasks (as it seems to be happening now), machines that pull a lot of tasks and then vanish after processing few of them are blocking the rest of the reasearchers until the tasks time out. I'm currently processing tasks that time out on 4th April, so the timeout seems to be about 1 week? I think the deadline is based on the urgency of the task. I understand what you guys are saying but I don't think it is the main factor in causing the task shortage. Either Rosetta needs to have enough of a buffer or we need to have a backup project. In the most recent case I waited until all the tasks were finished and uploaded before I shut the VM down. I'm guessing most people would probably let most of them finish before shutting down if it was running out of tasks.
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bible_pay so? ROBOT oni-chann and his destroying this concept with ROSETTA? any steps from your side?
It looks like the tasks are probably sent to multiple computers for computation so I don't think it's that big of a deal. Not correct. I think you have some time (few days) to send back the result before rosetta send it to smbody else. I forgot to post the link: http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/How_BOINC_worksBut what does it matter if it is sent out again then.
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bible_pay so? ROBOT oni-chann and his destroying this concept with ROSETTA? any steps from your side?
It looks like the tasks are probably sent to multiple computers for computation so I don't think it's that big of a deal.
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Do you have more than 1 mining thread? If you do it might crash if your using Windows wallet.
Yep, trying to heatmine while podc is unable to work. Perhaps it's futile, the reward on heatmining is almost nothing now.. Supposedly i'm #1 in hps, but so far made 80 bbp /today It should be fine on linux if you want to try that. Where does it say your #1, I think a lot of people are solo mining.
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I keep encountering crashes of the wallet on a 2012 server.
This has occurred on the last 3 wallet versions (but not prior)
Problem signature: Problem Event Name: APPCRASH Application Name: biblepay-qt.exe Application Version: 1.0.1.7 Application Timestamp: 5685c180 Fault Module Name: StackHash_1c50 Fault Module Version: 6.3.9600.17415 Fault Module Timestamp: 5450559e Exception Code: c0000374 Exception Offset: PCH_BA_FROM_ntdll+0x00000000000911FA OS Version: 6.3.9600.2.0.0.272.7 Locale ID: 1033 Additional Information 1: 1c50 Additional Information 2: 1c500c11da55e5703b61eb12a674b355 Additional Information 3: c986 Additional Information 4: c986aa7b00eb6bcf6ff1592b550b907d
anyone else seen this?
Do you have more than 1 mining thread? If you do it might crash if your using Windows wallet.
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Good morning all, I see the catastrophic event of the day is that we ran out of Rosetta tasks!
First of all lets all remain patient, and consider that fortunately with our move to PODC, our payments are based on RAC - Recent Average Credit, and not on Daily Credit Delta Rewards, meaning that we have all built up a buffer of work that we can rely on in this time of draught.
Think of your RAC as a research savings account of stored up work. It is reducing at a decay level of a couple percent per day (roughly), so if you have 1000 RAC today, you may have about 980 rac tomorrow and still receive 98% of your rewards today while Rosetta has no new tasks.
And since we are all in this together, we all decay together relatively speaking, so none of us has any advantage during this dry spell.
If you go to the RPC and type 'exec racdecay' you can take a look at how an average PC builds up RAC for an event like this. And then imagine in the middle of the schedule, the effects on your RAC as you wait out a day.
In the mean time lets hope that Rosetta runs the task scheduler. I have a lot of PMs, sorry for the delay. Yes, we can talk about long term possibilities of backups, as long as they are Christian based. Alzheimers, AIDS, etc. Let's not jump to conclusions and overcomplicate our system. Let's take this slow and see if Rosetta comes back with new tasks today.
I don't think any of them are Christian based. Please correct me if I'm wrong. How often do tasks need to be submitted? Because if our all our task weights go to zero only a few people will get paid. Right, I suppose in the sense that they are all science based, none are technically Christian created projects, but at least the few that are based in 'healing' or curing a disease in contrast to looking for aliens (paganism or darwinism) or discovering nanotechnologies (materialism) would be more aligned with our mission. Regarding task weight dropping to zero you have a great point there. The nice thing about PODC is we have 4 network modes and we are in heavenly mode right now. If they dont have tasks by the end of the night, we can move ourselves down into DR mode #2 (possessed by UTXO). That mode disregards taskweight, but still requires UTXO Weight * RAC to equal magnitude. I forgot about that, sounds good Rob. By the way, it would be nice if we could make our own project, something that requires calculations but does not require someone to submit tasks. It would just keep calculating until it found a solution.
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Yeah, I think we can start a discussion since it may take a while for everyone to agree on the next one. One thing I'm worried about is if we are exceeding their demand. Did anyone notice if the number of available tasks has been slowly decreasing? I noticed that I'm still getting tasks but just not a lot of them so that means new tasks are still being generated. It could also be so that you're getting tasks that missed the deadline on other machines. I don't know how it works, but maybe these tasks get redistributed after missing their deadline. so they are not actually generating new tasks. Just speculation I remember reading somewhere that the same task is actually sent to multiple computers at the same time but I can't find it right now.
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Yeah, I think we can start a discussion since it may take a while for everyone to agree on the next one. One thing I'm worried about is if we are exceeding their demand. Did anyone notice if the number of available tasks has been slowly decreasing? I noticed that I'm still getting tasks but just not a lot of them so that means new tasks are still being generated.
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There are comments on there already about not having any tasks but I don't see a response from Rosetta yet.
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Good morning all, I see the catastrophic event of the day is that we ran out of Rosetta tasks!
First of all lets all remain patient, and consider that fortunately with our move to PODC, our payments are based on RAC - Recent Average Credit, and not on Daily Credit Delta Rewards, meaning that we have all built up a buffer of work that we can rely on in this time of draught.
Think of your RAC as a research savings account of stored up work. It is reducing at a decay level of a couple percent per day (roughly), so if you have 1000 RAC today, you may have about 980 rac tomorrow and still receive 98% of your rewards today while Rosetta has no new tasks.
And since we are all in this together, we all decay together relatively speaking, so none of us has any advantage during this dry spell.
If you go to the RPC and type 'exec racdecay' you can take a look at how an average PC builds up RAC for an event like this. And then imagine in the middle of the schedule, the effects on your RAC as you wait out a day.
In the mean time lets hope that Rosetta runs the task scheduler. I have a lot of PMs, sorry for the delay. Yes, we can talk about long term possibilities of backups, as long as they are Christian based. Alzheimers, AIDS, etc. Let's not jump to conclusions and overcomplicate our system. Let's take this slow and see if Rosetta comes back with new tasks today.
I don't think any of them are Christian based. Please correct me if I'm wrong. How often do tasks need to be submitted? Because if our all our task weights go to zero only a few people will get paid.
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All my windows machine running Rosetta showing " No work available to process" try some reset and update but no luck. any suggest pls ?
You will just need to wait for Rosetta to have more tasks, it is the same for everyone.
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Perhaps we can start a discussion on the forum to see which distributed computing project to support and then hold a poll to decide.
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Can someone loan me like 3 bbp i need to get my new account set up to mine but the rosetta functions is stating i need bbp to start. i will return to you 6 once i mine them. thank you.
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Just sent you 3 BBP, no need to return.
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