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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 02, 2014, 11:07:36 PM
There is something I can't understand

Now you made a couple of posts, a listen to few podcasts and all these things and you earned

Here is my breakdown of my earnings:
16012.19503416 LTBCOIN for Proof of Participation Week 4
6320.223 LTBCOIN for Forum +5 Posts Distribution Part 4

I saw now my token balance, it passed 10k with insane difficulty.

Win I calculated that 10k with 0.00000285 it gave me around $10

Is there something wrong I'm making or what is wrong ?

I've made about 50 posts and listened to nearly all the podcasts of this week !!

And could you tell me please how to EXACTLY sell my LTBcoin on Melotuc as I don't know yet.

Thank you.

Have you looked here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n2QpKsrzXDv6Icz_jMY2HgpaSc1uU0sgGeFof562z8U/edit?pli=1#gid=1795481255

press ctrl + f to search for your name.

Here's my stats, I earned .45 percent of the available PoP, and earned 100 PoP points, that gave me  7500 LTBcoins this week.
So now I don't think you are doing it wrong, and in fact you are obviously doing it better than me if you earned 10k. The payouts diminish because while more people register, the weekly payout actually slightly decreases.
Here's the weekly PoP payouts, taken from here:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GzytNblMx8xBmUczX7sPC8QitkJrrRirNrh2AJtjy1Q/edit?pli=1#gid=508171322
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Week 1: 1,734,166.74
Week 2: 1,716,825.08
Week 3: 1,699,656.83
Week4: 1,682,660.26
Week5: 1,665,833.66

Here are some interesting stats adam posted from here: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-132-multisig-and-supernodes
Here are some quick stats (Full Leaderboard) from the LTBcoin Audience Program - From July 26th to August 1st we saw

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1,356 article and show comments
155 new forum threads
2289 replies.
9501 Newly Viewed Content,
205 new users,
1,303 Magic Words correctly submitted,
88 Active Referred Users
1,002 posts were liked and a total of 799 users participated and split about 1.6 million LTBc.

I personally don't know a whole lot about melotic. I sold 5,000LTBcoin essentially to test it out. I plan to hold onto my LTBcoin for a little while longer atleast. In my opinion it is currently undervalued, but I am absolutely no expert on the matter.

Here is the easiest way to sell your LTBcoin. in your account, melotic will give you a adress to send the LTBcoin, once that clears (it take awhile), go here: https://www.melotic.com/markets/ltbc-btc

scroll down a bit, and choose the buy order: currently the top 1 is:
0.00000286per LTBcoin, 
amount wanted 5521.68000000
amount in BTC you will get    0.01579200

confirm and you will get BTC. You are also able to place a sell order, but that is more work.
82  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 02, 2014, 09:35:56 AM

Thank you for elaborating.

I need your help regarding the exchnage

1. We will get the payout in our ltbcoin wallet (countersomething.co)
2. We will move them to our wallet at Meltoic exchange wallet
3. We will sell ltbcoin and buy bitcoin
4. We will send that bitcoin to our final wallet.

A. Is all what I said is right ?
B. How fast is the exchange process is done at Melotic ? Is it Automatic ?
C. Is Melotic totally legit ? No worry of scams or anything ?
D. If you don't mind, add in details to this mini-guide anything I've forgotten to be a guide for all of us.

Thank you.

Everything is like you said, a few things to note:
Melotic functions just like any other exchange (bter, cryptsy, etc). You can place a buy or sell order, the market is LTBc/BTC.
Note I waited over an hour for my LTBcoin to transfer from counterwallet to melotic, but it eventually showed up.
Once you trade your LTBc for BTC, you can send the BTC from melotic back to the same wallet that you had your LTBcoin in.

Here is what adam wrote about melotic, taken from here: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/forum/post/ltbcoin-now-trading-on-meloticcom-exchange?page=1  I personally have very little experience with melotic, and I would never advise to keep large sums of coins in any exchange unless you are actively trading them.

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Hey folks, I'm pleased to announce that after a good conversation about useful assets with Jack Wang over at Melotic.com, LTBCOIN has been listed to trade on a exchange for bitcoin. Jack comes highly recommended, and I believe this platform is safer for trading than the forum.

https://www.melotic.com/markets/ltbcoin-btc

BEFORE YOU DO ANY TRADING: Please remember that LTBCOIN is a VERY new crypto-token, and so while it is being issued on a long term deflationary schedule, in this initial bootstrapping "lets get everybody involved" period it is highly inflationary.

Every friday we release the weeks allocation of LTBCOIN to content creators and the audience. We have no idea how the price will perform because this is literally the first user-created-asset to be listed on a centralized exchange that hasn't already been crowdfunded to a fixed amount (as with Maidsafecoin), so we are in uncharted waters.

Good luck!
83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 02, 2014, 02:04:39 AM
Hey everyone,

You only have 7 more hours to earn PoP points this week.  Smiley
Any activity after midnight PDT will count towards next week.
Payouts will happen during the day tomorrow (saturday).

Could you please give us a near timing with regards to GMT timing or on BCT default time which is 12:03:32 at the time of writing this post.

Thank you.

It should be 7am BCT default time.

This is the timing of what exactly ?

As I was asking about the near time of the payout in BCT time also.

Thank you.

7am Bitcointalk default time (midnight PDT) is when the cutoff will be for earning PoP. Payout times for PoP vary greatly, all that can be gauranteed is that they will go out saturday afternoon, PDT (which is adam's timezone). That would start somewhere around 7pm BCT default time.

Distribution time varies because adam initiates the distribution once he has finished his podcast and other tasks that day.

for example here are my distribution times the past 2 weeks:
Proof of Participation Week 4 - July 26, 2014 at 6:21 PM
Proof of Participation Audience Rewards Week #3 - July 19, 2014 at 12:44 PM

May you tell me please in regards to what time did you get paid the last 2 weeks.

Is there a default clock at LTB that the one can see ?

Thank you for your kindness and being super helpful, apperciated so much.

Don't know of a default clock on LTB (not a bad idea though).

Does this help?
Proof of Participation Week 4 - July 26, 2014 at 6:21 PM      (1:21AM GMT)
Proof of Participation Audience Rewards Week #3 - July 19, 2014 at 12:44 PM (7:41PM GMT)
is that what you mean? Bitcointalk default time is GMT time. Check out this calculator here:
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/usa/pacific-time/convert/

Cheers  Smiley
84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 02, 2014, 01:58:59 AM
can someone help me with a magic word? I listened twice to a podcast but didn't heard it Cheesy

I promise they are there (unless it is a short 15 minute podcast)  Grin
85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 02, 2014, 01:41:49 AM
Hey everyone,

You only have 7 more hours to earn PoP points this week.  Smiley
Any activity after midnight PDT will count towards next week.
Payouts will happen during the day tomorrow (saturday).

Could you please give us a near timing with regards to GMT timing or on BCT default time which is 12:03:32 at the time of writing this post.

Thank you.

It should be 7am BCT default time.

This is the timing of what exactly ?

As I was asking about the near time of the payout in BCT time also.

Thank you.

7am Bitcointalk default time (midnight PDT) is when the cutoff will be for earning PoP. Payout times for PoP vary greatly, all that can be gauranteed is that they will go out saturday afternoon, PDT (which is adam's timezone). That would start somewhere around 7pm BCT default time.

Distribution time varies because adam initiates the distribution once he has finished his podcast and other tasks that day.

for example here are my distribution times the past 2 weeks:
Proof of Participation Week 4 - July 26, 2014 at 6:21 PM
Proof of Participation Audience Rewards Week #3 - July 19, 2014 at 12:44 PM
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 02, 2014, 01:04:56 AM
Hey everyone,

You only have 7 more hours to earn PoP points this week.  Smiley
Any activity after midnight PDT will count towards next week.
Payouts will happen during the day tomorrow (saturday).

Could you please give us a near timing with regards to GMT timing or on BCT default time which is 12:03:32 at the time of writing this post.

Thank you.

It should be 7am BCT default time.
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 02, 2014, 12:01:33 AM
Hey everyone,

You only have 7 more hours to earn PoP points this week.  Smiley
Any activity after midnight PDT will count towards next week.
Payouts will happen during the day tomorrow (saturday).
88  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 01, 2014, 05:03:56 PM


Thank you.

1. I made that calculation as you said, it had even more realistic numbers, I guess these are the right ones.

2. The latest "Beyond Bitcoin" podcast has a magic word, I'm taking about the 11th episode.

Glad you are satisfied with the calculations now.

I didn't listen to Beyond Bitcoin 11 yet, but this is what the host wrote about it:

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Legendface66 • 12 hours ago
sorry guys, did not submit the word. Couldn't figure it out and I was already late on the episode so I didn't want to edit, remaster and reupload. Now that I see people are into this I'll endeavour to not only get it right but also make it difficult, esoteric and interesting. That means you shouldn't expect to get every one :-)

oh, and also to e-nun-ci-ate :-/

So I assume there is no magic word for #11. Also there was no magic word for #10, or any of the previous ones. However there will be a magic word for #12.
I'm about to listen to #11, so I will see exactly what is up with that episode, and report back.

EDIT:
Just saw this post from adam. The magic word for #11 now functions
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Update
Episode 11 of Beyond Bitcoin now has a working magic word, although have fun spelling it (I used the dictionary spelling).

Also it was my mistake with Arthur not being able to use the magic word system, his account wasn't specified as a podcaster much to my chagrin. Everything is correct now.
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Logo Voting Has Begun[Updates & Discussion] on: August 01, 2014, 04:26:53 PM
NEM should clone bts not NXT or take the advantage of BTS

People should also get their facts straight before they post...can't have everything.

Hahaha thanks for that patmast3r, I really did LOL. what a great comment to wake up to  Grin
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 01, 2014, 04:21:55 PM
Does all podcasts/shows now have the magic word, or only some of them ?

Since the magic word is fairly new, there are still a few kinks that are being worked out. The only podcast that won't have a "magic word" is the SovereignBTC podcast (since they are usually short, if they start including magic words, I will let you guys know).

With that being said, the last 2 "Beyond Bitcoin" podcasts did not have a magic word (I believe this is because they were recorded a couple weeks ago.)
All future "Beyond Bitcoin" podcasts should have a magic word, and all new podcasts (besides SovereignBTC), will probably have a magic word.
I say probably, because it's always possible the host could forget the magic word, or something of that nature.
91  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 01, 2014, 04:14:00 PM
1. If we multiplied 17.9 (PoP earned at base 5 for the 20 posts) times 5 it will equal 89.5, so now the 20 posts have 89.5 points.

2. If we multiplied 89.5 times 100 (LTBc / Point from my mind, which is similar to the ones of the past week, I got this from here http://letstalkbitcoin.com/ltbcoin-stats) this will equal 8950, now we know the value of each point's in terms of ltbcoin

3. If we multiplied 8950 times 20 (number of posts), it will equal to 179000 (the summation of ltbcoins for each point)


1st multiplication was for getting the total points for 20 posts

2nd one was for getting how much total sum of ltbcoins for that 89.5 points

3rd one was for knowing how much ltbcoins you will get for 20 posts

because, if you multiplied the result of the 3rd equation which is 179000 with the price of ltbcoin, and converted that number to btc then to usd, to will see a realistic number.

Well the first calculation is wrong though. 17.9 PoP is already how much PoP you earn for 20 posts in a day. to get 89.5 PoP points a day from posts, you would have to post probably over 1000 times a day!
Maybe start the calculation over with your base after step 1 being 17.9 (not 89.5).

In about 24 hours the next payout will happen, so you will get a better picture of how much your efforts are worth.
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 01, 2014, 07:40:29 AM
Hey guys, the podcast host of beyond bitcoin said there is no magic word for Beyond Bitcoin - 11 - The NXT Economy
Sorry about that guys, he did say he will have a magic word in the next one though, here is what he said:

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Legendface66 • an hour ago
sorry guys, did not submit the word. Couldn't figure it out and I was already late on the episode so I didn't want to edit, remaster and reupload. Now that I see people are into this I'll endeavour to not only get it right but also make it difficult, esoteric and interesting. That means you shouldn't expect to get every one :-)

oh, and also to e-nun-ci-ate :-/

It is still worth checking out his podcast though. I personally find the Beyond Bitcoin podcasts very interesting.

I don't have a magic word since 25 july .... anyone here share the same problem?

Not having that problem, here is when I had my last magic word:
Let's Talk Bitcoin #131 A Potent Combination July 29, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Are you not hearing the magic word in the podcast? Or are you having an issue submitting the magic word?

I hear the magic word on this show MMM S02E09: A Comedy of Errors   Blog Post   July 25, 2014 at 11:22 PM

but didn't heard of another magic word since then ... will try to listen to it more carefully not while playing LoL! Smiley

Haha yeah they are there, I promise  Grin
93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 01, 2014, 06:28:02 AM
Hey guys, the podcast host of beyond bitcoin said there is no magic word for Beyond Bitcoin - 11 - The NXT Economy
Sorry about that guys, he did say he will have a magic word in the next one though, here is what he said:

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Legendface66 • an hour ago
sorry guys, did not submit the word. Couldn't figure it out and I was already late on the episode so I didn't want to edit, remaster and reupload. Now that I see people are into this I'll endeavour to not only get it right but also make it difficult, esoteric and interesting. That means you shouldn't expect to get every one :-)

oh, and also to e-nun-ci-ate :-/

It is still worth checking out his podcast though. I personally find the Beyond Bitcoin podcasts very interesting.

I don't have a magic word since 25 july .... anyone here share the same problem?

Not having that problem, here is when I had my last magic word:
Let's Talk Bitcoin #131 A Potent Combination July 29, 2014 at 5:25 PM

Are you not hearing the magic word in the podcast? Or are you having an issue submitting the magic word?
94  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 01, 2014, 05:32:05 AM
Hey guys, the podcast host of beyond bitcoin said there is no magic word for Beyond Bitcoin - 11 - The NXT Economy
Sorry about that guys, he did say he will have a magic word in the next one though, here is what he said:

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Legendface66 • an hour ago
sorry guys, did not submit the word. Couldn't figure it out and I was already late on the episode so I didn't want to edit, remaster and reupload. Now that I see people are into this I'll endeavour to not only get it right but also make it difficult, esoteric and interesting. That means you shouldn't expect to get every one :-)

oh, and also to e-nun-ci-ate :-/

It is still worth checking out his podcast though. I personally find the Beyond Bitcoin podcasts very interesting.
95  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 01, 2014, 05:21:02 AM
I want to ask something please, crackerhead, as you seem to like Math like me, but please, ultra focus.

Lets use that conversion you made

11: 15.1
12: 15.5
13: 15.9
14: 16.2
15: 16.6
16: 16.9
17: 17.2
18: 17.4
19: 17.7
20: 17.9

1. If we multiplied 17.9 (PoP earned at base 5 for the 20 posts) times 5 it will equal 89.5, so now the 20 posts have 89.5 points.

2. If we multiplied 89.5 times 100 (LTBc / Point from my mind, which is similar to the ones of the past week, I got this from here http://letstalkbitcoin.com/ltbcoin-stats) this will equal 8950, now we know the value of each point's in terms of ltbcoin

3. If we multiplied 8950 times 20 (number of posts), it will equal to 179000 (the summation of ltbcoins for each point)

Is this right ?

Sorry, I think I have had a bit too much wine tonight, to focus too hard  Grin

Starting with step 1 though, I don't understand why you multiplied by 5. Yes 1 comment would give you 5 PoS points, but 20 will only give you 17.9, not 89.5

I guess I don't understand exactly what you are trying to calculate. Why multiply 8950 by 20, and what do you think that 179,000 represents?

Maybe I am more drunk than I think, but I am quite confused  Tongue Grin
96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM Official Moderated Thread - Logo Voting Has Begun[Updates & Discussion] on: August 01, 2014, 02:35:49 AM
"Open Beta release - estimate August"

I"m pretty sure not.

We're still working on NCC. We haven't started working on beta features, and we'll need at least 2m to make them.
hmm no problems november btc value is about 3000 usd  Grin and nem stake value will fly

If they push the beta back to November some people are going to bee displeased. And with good reason.

where did I say something about November? Smiley I hope we'll make it till end of Sep. but I think you shouldn't treat it as something set in stone.

We're thinking about some really great features for beta, that would really make launch SOMETHING.


There's really no room for error when dealing with something as important as this, so we need to get it right and also have innovative features that will blow people away at launch.

Exactly, take your time.
I want a coin I can stand behind years from now. Not something that will make me a couple grand on launch.
97  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 01, 2014, 02:06:40 AM
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Quote from: crackerhead on July 27, 2014, 09:51:57 PM
LTBcoin does not use computational mining. Instead, coins are distributed to the content creators, the community and the platform according to a fixed schedule.
The advantage is that no expensive mining has to be done to keep the transactions secure. LTBc is build on the BTC blockchain and is therefore secured by the massive hashrate of bitcoin miners. This disadvantage is that the devs control all coins. You have to trust the devs to deliver on their promise to distribute the coins.

Unfortunately, in order to distribute coins in this matter, someone has to be in charge of them. Luckily every weekly distribution is completely transparent.
http://letstalkbitcoin.com/ltbcoin-stats
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GzytNblMx8xBmUczX7sPC8QitkJrrRirNrh2AJtjy1Q/edit?pli=1#gid=508171322

I can't speak for adam, but he has a great reputation, and a lot to lose if he ran off with all the LTBcoin (also, it would make his LTBcoin nearly worthless).
98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: August 01, 2014, 12:53:08 AM

Don't worry, I didn't forget:

So I apologize, I was wrong, there is no limit on how much PoP you can earn in a day, just the amount you earn diminishes for every post. Below is the amount you would earn if you made 10-20 posts in a day

11: 15.1
12: 15.5
13: 15.9
14: 16.2
15: 16.6
16: 16.9
17: 17.2
18: 17.4
19: 17.7
20: 17.9

Sorry about the misinformation, I will make sure to be more accurate in the future.
PS feel free to check my math, I did this fast, also I rounded up to make it more simple.

No problem, we all make mistakes, it's ok Smiley

Is this adam's reply ? If not, can you share adam's reply please ?

Thank you.

From adam,
There is no limit on what you can earn but the more you do per day the less each further action is worth
99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: July 31, 2014, 10:11:38 PM

That is 10 posts per day, comments and forum posts all count as the same, so if you have 7 forum posts, and 3 article posts, you will have your 10 post that day.

Is that what you were asking?
Ask away, I'm sure other people are wondering the same things, but just haven't asked.

Thank you for all of your answers.

Regarding the 2nd question, how did you know that the max. is 10 posts per day whatever they are forum one/article one or combainatoon of both ?

When I looked at the PoP google doc, yes, I saw that table where it stops at 10 posts per day which will get you 14.6 PoP, but is that table the reason why you said the max. is 10 ?

Thanks

I saw this being discussed on the LTB forum, but after searching this morning, I can't find the discussion. I have messaged adam regarding this, and I will let you know the exact details when I hear back from him.

Don't forget me please Smiley

Don't worry, I didn't forget:

So I apologize, I was wrong, there is no limit on how much PoP you can earn in a day, just the amount you earn diminishes for every post. Below is the amount you would earn if you made 10-20 posts in a day

11: 15.1
12: 15.5
13: 15.9
14: 16.2
15: 16.6
16: 16.9
17: 17.2
18: 17.4
19: 17.7
20: 17.9

Sorry about the misinformation, I will make sure to be more accurate in the future.
PS feel free to check my math, I did this fast, also I rounded up to make it more simple.
100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: LTBcoin [LTBc] "Let's Talk Bitcoin" crypto-rewards Official Discussion Thread on: July 31, 2014, 09:36:37 PM
The last magic word is almost impossible to hear, here is the podcast:

http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/beyond-bitcoin-11-the-nxt-economy

If someone can understand what is he saying let me know!

"headuponus" "hippopotamus" "haveabonus" what is that?

Hmm, it's that podcasters first time using a magic word, guess he needs more practice  Grin

I haven't listened to it yet, but when I do I'll PM you. We don't want to post it here so everyone can see.
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