In issue #3 there are at least 2 articles where a chunk of text is repeated. In the article about Wikispeed there is this part that is in the early part of the article and then repeated at the very end:

"We've received 13 bitcoins... THANKS..."
"Most people would scoff at the amount..."
"I am glad to have donated..."

In the article about the "other" Bitcoin logo there is a huge part at the end of the article that is a repeat from earlier. This one should really have caught someone's eye before it was printed.

Overall I'm happy with the magazine but don't forget the proofreading guys!

In the part you quoted I was referring to the "popular payment gateway" in Germany that phantastisch mentioned.

Are you sure that you are actually giving your credentials to the payment gateway? Paying using your online bank is common in Sweden too but you are redirected to a page hosted by your bank and then back, the payment provider never sees your credentials.


I'm not saying that Coinbase are "bad guys". It's just that it's common sense not to give your credentials to someone else and it's also what any serious company will tell you (including your bank I'm sure).

I'm confused (by the instant method).

 1. Are you really supposed to hand over your full banking credentials to a third party? What would your bank say about that?

 2. Don't banks in the US use two factor authentication?

Här är en gammal tråd på bitcoin.se där det diskuterades. Man kan väl säga att ingen hittade nåt svenskt ord som låter bra.

I'll write this in English so that our Finnish friends can understand it. Technomage has organized a cruise for the Finnish Bitcoin community and they will be in Stockholm on the 25th of November (a Sunday). Sounds like a great oppurtunity for a meetup. So, who's interested and how can we organize it?

From http://www.facebook.com/events/436383989752089/ :

"The ship is Silja Serenade and it'll leave Helsinki in the afternoon of the 24th (Saturday) of November and it comes back to Finland in the morning of the 26th (Monday). So it's two nights at the boat and one day in Stockholm.

6 people have confirmed and bought tickets already. One can also participate in this event by helping us organize a meetup in Stockholm. We're very interested in meeting Swedish Bitcoin enthusiasts."

The flag in the dropdown menu for the Swedish translation is not the Swedish flag.
This is what the Swedish flag looks like:

Sure. What I objected to was the general argument that something is rightfully yours just becaused it ended up in your Bitcoin address.

Magically appeared? You know who sent it, you know that it was a mistake and you know how to return it.

If someone accidentally left a wallet in your house and then knocked on your door asking to get it back, would you do the same? "Oh, you mean this wallet that magically appeared on my living room table? Well, we didn't have an agreement regarding that so I think I'll keep it. Thanks!"

Regular people will use this because it is simple to get started and simple to use. It uses bank accounts that they already have and phone numbers that they already know. Most people don't care much about inflation or other theoretical aspects of money, they want money that is easy to use.

Regarding fees, it is not clear from the web page but I doubt that there will be any significant fees. Transferring money between the major Swedish banks is free (but not instant) today and they probably know that it will turn people off if they introduce large fees. My guess is that they will connect merchants to the system later and that that's where they will collect their fees.

I think that ResponsePay is the closest thing to Swish that I've seen so far in terms of usability (well done!). I know that there are a number of other services that let's you send bitcoins to an e-mail address but it's pretty important in terms of user experience that it is:

Person1 sends money to person2@foo.com -> Money is in Person2's wallet.

and not

Person1 sends money to person2@foo.com -> Person2 checks his mail and clicks a redeem link -> Money is in Person2's wallet.

By the end of this year the largest banks in Sweden launch a service that makes it possible to send money to a friend using your IPhone/Android phone by just knowing his/her phone number. The money will be at the receiver's bank account instantly, even if you don't use the same bank. Basically everyone in Sweden has an account with one of these banks and it sounds like it will be easy to activate the service by logging on to your online bank and providing your phone number. I think that this service will be quite a success.

Now, I want to be able to tell people that this is just as easy with Bitcoin with the added benefit of being able to send money to your friends all over the world. One key selling point that I see with Swish is that I just need to know someone's phone number. So, how close to this are we in the Bitcoin world? What can I recommend to people that is just as easy as Swish?

Just so that everyone knows, one important difference between blockchain.info and MyBitcoin is that blockchain.info can't run off with your money.

I wasn't looking for a feature, I just thought that you could tell me roughly what exchange fee you charge your customers. I can figure it out myself by observing your price changes and what the price is on markets such as Mt.Gox. at that time, I just thought that maybe you could save me the trouble.

Not sure that I get your point here. I do know that cent means one part in 100, just like milli means one part in 1000. My point was that we don't write cUSD, we write '¢'. We write 14¢ and we might write 0.14 USD if we use the currency code but we don't write 14 cUSD (I'm not american so correct me if I'm wrong).

I agree with this. I do hope that we will use some other notation than mBTC and uBTC though. Putting a prefix in front of the currency code looks very akward to me. Would be much nicer to have a separate symbol for "millies" or whatever we choose to call them (like $ and ¢ for dollars and cents).

But actually, it might be easier to reach a consensus on the symbol for "millies" than it has been for Bitcoin. ฿, Ƀ or whatever it is.

Still, I'd like to know what the price was at Mt.Gox. at the exact time that the exchange rate was set, so that I can compare them.

I haven't tried it yet, but it looks good! So, if I use SEPA there is no fee on your side, right? What kind of price will I get compared to the latest price on Mt.Gox.? It's hard to compare since the price on your site is not updated that often.

Other threads about this:

From June 2011:
Shift the decimal point over? (with poll)
Solution: How to shift the decimal

From September 2012:
Move the decimal place! (Is it possible?)

And microbits.com. Seems like it's not such a desert after all.