excellent. Sent out the PM earlier and I've already got to people to file a FTC complaint lets keep it up.
excellent. Sent out the PM earlier and I've already got to people to file a FTC complaint lets keep it up

I should note my received  order was burning and completely unsafe. I RMAed my product then after a while I received a unit without a power supply that had a couple non working boards and hashed nowhere near even the 10% variance after I supplied my own power sources. I made complaints to them that went ignored my guess is that most of you didn't even get this much form them. I can be a squeaky wheel, and a quite loud one at that.

I'm going to try to contact people on this list see if I can't get name and phone numbers so we can better coordinate. And make your you are all putting in FTC claims.

I think my favorite is that Jim Brown is "fictional person" to protect company employees. That is fine but you don't give the Fictional Person the title of Sales Manager which they then use as the signature of their e-mail. I'll be happy to provide that e-mail to the attorney's on the case

Zipkin's Lawyers quit his case becuse he said he wouldn't pay them. He's yet to get new lawyers and the judge gave him an extension until the the 10th of april.

I was betting on this being AMT but the poster is more coherent than "josh zipkin"

I like that the fake Jim Brown has a loving wife wife. Maybe josh was just role playing since he wife is going to leave him.

Looks like zipkin in addition to not paying rent he owed in the past has decided to continue his winning ways by not paying his Lawyers.  Here's some court docs to keep you all busy.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_er85osA9tfRnRwZFVyREo0eFk/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_er85osA9tfeEVvdHhqR0RmUm8/view?usp=sharing

Remember AMT says you aren't consumers, lets see what the judge thinks.

The best part is that the judge doesn't dismiss their sales records so much as he says I see the records you've provided and your records specifically show they have a case.

It's as if they presented evidence on behalf of the plaintiff.

I'm hoping the court can compel him to attend.

Hell if we ever get our money back we should just do a bitmain group buy.

Also he complained about not being able to get his prescriptions in China. Why didn't he just buy his pills via the silk road like his other drugs?

I think what really speaks volumes is that after months of  lack of communication he posted and back dated news stories on the site to give the impression that he was communicating all along. This speaks to the willfulness of the acts. Plus he did it shoddily and didn't erase the exif data that showed that he fudged the dates. This will go a long way to proving fraud.

Bruno serves his purpose but he goes about it all wrong. To much in the way of derogatory comments about race and religion.

If he could just put all that bullshit behind him he might make a better spokes person for bitcoin. And that's not without looking at the good he has done.

But fuck AMT and anything related to them. They are a trash heap.

I think his idea was he was going to set up farms. Of course what he didn't take into account was that he has no technical skill, a substandard product, and a reputation that could sink any business dealing with clients capable of using Google.

I think there was an obvious initial thought that he would sell to individuals, produce a good product, and work his way into larger corporate deals. When he realized that would take some actual work and that things might not be going with his fantasy plan he cut off communication with customers even though he knew at that point he couldn't deliver. At that point it became negligence for not letting his customer base know what was going on. That led to fraud as he continued to make specific claims of shipping dates that he had to know couldn't be honored.

As I understand it there are still customers who haven't received their miners. There  are instances like mine where they received incomplete products after great delay. I've not seen anything posted where the delivered miners are working with in the advertised specs.

I love that he said he didn't come to the Vegas conference because of lack of money but he has no problem showing up at conferences in other countries.

It's ok, he'll have to show up for the court proceedings. He's probably scared shitless. I know I would be if I were in this position.

I'm looking to split a room with someone when the class action trial occurs.

I  respectfully disagree with Casiriahmine.

We a putative class but not a certified class yet.

In a footnote in the order denying the dismissal the court says, "We will not parse the issue of class certification at this time because the question of whether a
class is ultimately certifiable is premature when evaluating a motion to dismiss."

But this is a step in the right direction.

We a putative class but not a certified class yet.

In a footnote in the order denying the dismissal the court says, "We will not parse the issue of class certification at this time because the question of whether a
class is ultimately certifiable is premature when evaluating a motion to dismiss."

But this is a step in the right direction.

So just so I'm positive what I'm seeing there, he tells Curt, full disclosure I'm Curt, that in no uncertain terms his power supply is on it's way.

It's now four months later and I've yet to receive my power supply. I guess I should just leave it alone since I know where they are at.

This is going to be hilarious as it picks up steam. AMT out did BFL with their banner clamming when the product would ship by rather than just estimated dates.

I'm still hopping to be deposed by the plaintiff's attorneys. I'd love to tell them about everything that was said by josh in our Skype chat. And that even after he claims to have mailed me a power supply it never showed.

If anyone want's I'll be happy to split a room in Philly during the trial portion of this lawsuit, we can have cheese steaks and laugh over their demise. This is the frist time I expect to see zipkin back in US. It's also good we have him and "Jim Brown" as named defendants, because if it's proven they commingled business and personal funds we're going to take everything they own.

We should get discussion rolling back here since the BFL thing is slowing down as they enter discovery.

That and I'll post in the official thread and see if this court doc disappears.

Also, Zipkin said at one point he had beat the class action. This was obviously premature. Here is the denial of the motion to Dismiss based on jurisdiction. From December 10th, https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B_er85osA9tfcVp6d0lMUVhVQWM/view?usp=sharing

Also it looks like the class action has another lawyer joining the team.

Looks like the Judge agrees that if the jury applies punitive damages (which it could) that it could easily surpass the $5mm dollar rule based on the defendant's submitted order log. The plaintiffs assert that the logs that were submitted we not complete.

I'll look more into what is needed to certify a class. If anyone wants to reach out to the lawyers hanging around the BFL thread maybe we can get their opinions on some things.