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81  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 22, 2014, 04:37:46 AM

You start by saying Run along Shrillex, and accuse me of attacking posters? Actually I thanked those with valid comments and didn't attack anyone but asked those who decided to act like children and attack me to ignore my posts.

I skimmed the rest of your post but to be honest it wasn't worth replying to as it just continued to attack with no real value, quite amusing as to what you accused me of doing.

So by giving your post a good reading over and discovering the hypocrisy of you, you are now trying to use semantics to back out of the corner, real nice of you to try and derail the thread.  You are just another shrill added to the long list who come in here and fail. And that isn't based on pure speculation which is all you have that's by your posts admitting to not reading the thread and just jumping in.  You are lost to the thread that doesn't care for people like you on here.  Have fun with that going forward. If my post didnt bother you, then why respond to it, you read it and got sand in your vag.





82  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 22, 2014, 04:15:04 AM
Regarding Cnn, CCN.  I am sorry did Josh ever say CNN?  I am not being sarcastic, I am asking.
I also don't like the site itself CCN as of course they picked the name to throw people off some, but like any blog I read it with a grain of salt.  Sadly with today's big media quality I would argue they are no worse then CNN, Wallstreet etc as most media reports for headlines and page views not for content and investigative reporting.

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Update: All interviews are done (CNN, WSJ, Fortune Magazine, Venture). They do not tell us specific dates and times (for whatever reason) so now we wait. I should know they day it goes out. Personally, I think the first one will be the WSJ. We will definitely see some Monday Smiley

https://hashtalk.org/topic/18452/hashcoin-ico-media-tour-update

See now that is helpful and I don't doubt the validity.  This could be used as some of the proof people pretend to have.  This could be entry one.

Just you will need to take it down later if those articles do come out in the future.

It's been more than a month now and all we've seen is a bunch of paid-to-spam press releases and a variety of interviews with bloggers.

People don't pretend to have proof, it's just most people don't feel like digging through 400 pages to find it.

Actually I don't think this would hold up in a court of law much less the court of public opinion as proof that gaw is a complete scam Smiley

However, I will not invalidate it like I didn't in my post above.  I said this can be point one  in a nice summary of all the proof people claim to have.

I find however when mob mentality rules and people just repeat things they delude themselves into thinking something that is just not based in fact at all.

I would imagine that with the passion I see here by some they would be able to quickly summarize all the proof to help the community and new readers to this thread.

After all isn't the point of this thread to educate and help people be warned of the evil GAW empire with more then just repeating the gate fueled rantings that just get repeated?  I say a ummary with all the proof starting with that quote would be a good start and go further to saving everyone from themselves then rantings.  

I look forward to more constructive posts and proof.

Heck if even the most passionate posters here can't start a summary of proof against GAW I can do it for them.  However atm my list would be quite small.  

Anyone want to add to the list of proof?  Once again, thanks in advance.

Sounds like you are volunteering! Please read the entire thread and have a complete list of proofs for us. We'll put in on a sticky some where. Otherwise you'll just have to read the thread and decide things for yourself!

Smiley no no no I am not volunteering!  Good try!  I was saying when a long passionate thread is made like this it would really be well advised to have a summary of all the points to help the very people the tread is aimed at?  Not many people are going to look through 444 posts to find any valid information.  

I do thank the one poster above who at least gave about 5 points that had value.  That is the type of community member that adds value to the topic for others to read and evaluate for themselves.

100 posts by bitter poster X agreeing with bitter poster Y back and forth post after post does me no good.  Sorry I am not going to take someones word on the internet that they " just know " facts on a topic when it involves money.  I instead invite them to state the reason they know so I can evaluate.

Run along Shrillex, if you cant defend your investment properly and resort to attacking the posters rather then content..then you lost the game.   Its not hard pointing out the shrills on here that haven't read the thread properly at all and started having a cry about the thread.  

You were asked to list the good things about Goobers At Work and its proof that its ot a ponzi etc and yet you haven't - so on what advice and evidence caused you to invest in GAW IN THE FIRST PLACE ?? Id really like to know as it sounds like you bought into his promises - then seen this thread and are now questioning your decision making whilst trying to act smug about it = fucking fail.  At least we are discussing facts about the company and person (shit that gets you banned of HT in a flash) and not dealing with promises you guys have on Homero Talk.

83  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 22, 2014, 04:11:35 AM
https://hashtalk.org/topic/25052/so-you-re-telling-me-that-i-can-buy-xpy-from-cryptsy-for-0-03btc-now-and-sell-for-20usd-later/19
https://archive.today/0FfrZ

Update from Josh (GAWCEO):

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@aceofmase said:

If the price to buy is lower at another exchange and bought back at the floored price of $20USD on Paybase then couldn't someone just arb the sh!t out of it?
I have had a solution built for that

Oh the scenarios we can come up with here for this nugget...

first one comes to mind is the excessive levels of KYC just to trade XPY to BTC
second one is the small value weekly limits placed on trades

any others?




Well, we already have KYC and limits. This might be either (a) something CEO just made up on the spot, he tends to do that often; or (b) a new feature he didn't want to mention while pumping the price on exchanges, e.g. the floor price is available only for coins that never left ZenCloud.



He could do something like put a 30 day hold for withdrawals on all incoming peecoin. Or is that even too draconian for gaw?

it's about making promises and keeping hope alive for as long as possible. according to

https://hashtalk.org/topic/24303/paybase-verifications/6

pretty much no one will be able to cash out xpy for btc in the beginning. only btc to xpy purchases will be allowed, also probably at $20.  you have to reach tier 2 before you can exchange and then you are limited to only $500.  tier 3 will allow $2500 total.  who knows how long the "public records" verification will take.  i have to give it to gaw, its a pretty good marketing gimmick and it will delay the potential failure of this coin for at least 90 days with multiple unnoticed stall tactics.


At least outside the Cult of Gaw in Homero Talk its definitely noticed.  Within that eco system of circle jerking on HT its unnoticed.

84  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 21, 2014, 02:51:00 PM
You are not a very good shrill are you, if you have been paying attention to the thread and not just your own posts you will see Homero responds to us indirectly and directly.

If he sees that not only do we want to get out with our XPY, which we have

Some of us also need to completely get out and rid us of this cancer that is cashtakers.  

Thats what it will take me to get out of this thread.  Nothing more or less.  

No its not a delay he said he will remove them from sale when he converts the remaining solos/primes to takers of cash.  No where did he say oh btw we will remove sale in x hours.  Maybe its me but I value when a person says they are going to do something and do it...and think when the opposite happens its hypocritical and right for the shit people cop for it.  Not sure where your morals are..blinded by greed perhaps ?

On the contrary, if I was a good shill I wouldn't spend my time reading through this thread, I'd just hop in every now and then, make a few glib remarks and leave. In fact I do spend quite a lot of time reading through every post in this thread, I like to keep abreast of the counter arguments to GAW's apparent successes. Currently I believe GAW is way out on top; a good indicator is when you guys resort back to name calling, dumb gifs, and 4 chan style trolling. (The Spondoolies discussion was cool though, I might hop on that train when I've cashed out a few hundred PYC).

I hope you get what you need from your investment, but I'd recommend asking your questions politely on the HT forum. Anywhere is else and it will just look like FUD!

Oh but i have voiced my concerns politely for zero result, then I tried the mean way and nothing, not even a ban or shadow ban.  Admit it, you have more fun in this thread then the entirety of Homero Talk.

Its not fud when its true.  Someone needs to chronological order up the broken promises. Id do it but I am lazy and only deal with the now and remember when someone does something wrong or good but hazy on dates.

85  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 21, 2014, 01:07:43 PM
SO BIG NEWS!! I found some secret NDA documents. I signed into GAW CEO's Google Drive with his psw josg21149. Heres what I found



Forgot the vest. Please take this feedback on board so going forward we dont have to have these little talks.

Also I lol'ed pretty hard.

86  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 21, 2014, 01:05:11 PM
Please let me sell my hashstakers please I want to get right out of this shit hole.  

Bit pointless whining about that here isn't it?

Also, Homero lied again - he said he would take the Cash takers off zencloud so you cant buy them anymore, they are still there nearly a day later.

OMG. 24 hour delay. DEFINITELY A SCAM!!!!

Have some patience lad. Grin

I sense the aggrieved circle jerk is running out of steam, you're definitely running out of GAW 'fails' to gush over. Maybe you guys could start a new thread for your ASIC discussion and lock this thread?

You are not a very good shrill are you, if you have been paying attention to the thread and not just your own posts you will see Homero responds to us indirectly and directly.

If he sees that not only do we want to get out with our XPY, which we have

Some of us also need to completely get out and rid us of this cancer that is cashtakers.  

Thats what it will take me to get out of this thread.  Nothing more or less.  

No its not a delay he said he will remove them from sale when he converts the remaining solos/primes to takers of cash.  No where did he say oh btw we will remove sale in x hours.  Maybe its me but I value when a person says they are going to do something and do it...and think when the opposite happens its hypocritical and right for the shit people cop for it.  Not sure where your morals are..blinded by greed perhaps ?


87  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 21, 2014, 10:25:53 AM
You just have to stop and think if everyone of Homeros HT customers are getting 4x or 5x ROI where is the money coming from ?  Its definitely not out of his own pocket.

It doesn't exist.  I bet you there will be another problem that prevents mass dumping IF shitcoin hits 20 bucks. Which it wont because The few exchanges shitcoin is sitting on is being manipulated to keep it below 10 bucks so Homero can blame trolls for dumping his coin and he will make himself out like the light at the end of tunnel - a savior for only paying 20 bucks aer shitcoin in paybase. He even taunted his clones in Homero Talk about shitcoin hitting 12 bucks and sure enough it pumped and ...dumped again. Can read this shit like a book.

Said it before and thats what I truly believe now.  

Please let me sell my hashstakers please I want to get right out of this shit hole.  


Also, Homero lied again - he said he would take the Cash takers off zencloud so you cant buy them anymore, they are still there nearly a day later.

88  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 21, 2014, 02:53:04 AM
I just notice that Gawminers Josh does not accept his own coin for any purchase of hashlets/hashstakers ?!

This is another big red flag.

Why, thats just a feature that needs to be added/changed in the marketplace. The wallet was only added recently -- all these so called red-flags have to exist for quite a long time be anything other than just short-term unavailability of features.

People here laugh and blame if a rushed upgrade goes wrong and say "they don't know how to be careful" - but this kind of delay is because of being careful.

Not only that they want to wait for the price to stabilise before they use it. They are realistic enough to know that this happens AFTER their strategy to stabilise it actually begins.
why is it that the new accounts on here always seem to have the answers like a group or pr agents. Makes me think new accounts to spread more lube or just new people to innocent still virgin to homeros sweet lips haha
Nah its either a homero alt account (you can spot the retard a mile off with how he posts and spells) or its an alt of someone from hashtalk trying to convince us gods knows why. I suspect they are just trying to inject some form of damage control incase new victims read this first. Can't have the fresh meat for the grinder knowing the truth before their bones are picked clean right?

Here's another funny redflag. Ever seen a CEO post as much as homero? Most of the time CEO's are doing real work with the company and they have PR people to do the talking. Josh's company is basically brain washing and lies so it figures his major job is posting on twitter, bitcointalk and hashtalk. I don't think he does any other work then send the occasional email and hype the hell out of paycoin to promote the size of his coin's e-penis. If he spent just 1/10 of his brain power doing his bullshit posts and lies maybe the coin would have some validity and functionality.

On another note maybe plastic surgeons will take paycoin for the next boob job he orders... or for his next car upgrade.
so from the whole post i read and appreciate it i have one question. If homero gets tits will he still be sent to male prison or female, It just make me wonder if raping him like he does to victims will feel less dirty if tits are in place  Huh

His new tits go well with his tummy tuck so who knows, sounds like he was preparing for it - kinda like Big Stan but moreso to take it.

89  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 21, 2014, 02:28:19 AM
And you're the same sandog from HT that never heard of Peercoin until Paycoin forked it. That speaks volumes.

 Grin



Thats right, didn't bother looking into peercoin so clearly i must know nothing. LOL. So i guess if i ask you about something and you can't answer it will mean you don't know anything about anything either ... c'mon. I was honest enough to admit i didn't bother following peercoin, and i'll catch up with it when i feel interested.


I am taking it that gaw contracted with the peercoin dev(s) and he is developing out paycoin for them? Anyone know if this is correct?

Probably, most probably since he was sitting along side Homero at the Las Vegas convention and they did touch on peercoin at one point but never went into specifics about creating one.  So I know its a stretch so Id imagine they know each other fairly well and struck up a convo.  Id even draw a long bow at sleek coin (born on HT) pump and dump would have drawn some attention from Homero.

90  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 21, 2014, 12:10:27 AM
Still not a bad time to sell guys. There was a decent pump when the lemmings got brainwashed to thinking overstock accepted Paycoin Grin So while it's not the best time to dump, as somebody already shelled out 700 BTC worth, it's still very good. Does the volume on cryptsy relate to how much BTC in trading a coin does, or the coin itself? If so, that's such low volume. Expect a shit storm when GAW is willing to buyback their coins.

It wouldn't suprise me if gaw allow exchanges to even reach 20 bucks, they will just dump on them.  Why ?

If for some miracle GAW do put up a 20 dollar floor within paybase only, They can bring more people in to their scheme by offering better dumping profits than an exchange - providing the exchanges do not match paybase dollar for dollar and since gaw has the most coin can effectively keep the market suppressed on them.  Then force you to use paybase for 20 buck coins if you want to dump, drawing you in, making you sign up/verify just to dump at that 20 mark.

91  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 20, 2014, 11:49:34 PM
Promised target, Amazon, Walmart

Got meganet

Funny how its the only one Josh has named without calling them "a huge tier 1 merchant".

Guess the kids of the investors are all getting radar jammers for christmas. Josh delivers the best xmas gifts Smiley

Who?

This guy ?  if true then Josh paid him to shut up it seems

https://hashtalk.org/topic/21965/reply-to-email-from-josh-garza/1

(btw this is a company that seems to be closed, and the address points to Taco Bell)

92  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 20, 2014, 08:19:29 PM
Ill just leave this here

https://hashtalk.org/topic/24402/just-had-a-conversation-with-a-xpy-dumper-had-to-screenshot-it-for-my-amusement

I have decided to maybe never visit Homero Talk anymore when people are this stupid thinking they are smart.  I am talking about the dumbshit who posted that picture and created the thread.  

He thought he was being smug and a smart ass but turns out that the person just doesn't care about paycoin and doesn't speak English so therefore this must be grounds to mock him.

Man people on HT are pretty stupid.  But we all knew that anyway.


Confirmation

https://hashtalk.org/topic/24718/confirmed-minimum-investment-for-orion-controller-is-50-xpy/3

Post 3 says it all really as to how stupid they all are.

Here's another gem:

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sandog

It actually takes a lot of time, research and interest to end up here knowing what we do about this venture of GAW and its plans.
I really don't blame anyone for not having the energy to try and read about it - i mean to us it may stand out a lot from the usual but when I was mining IPO coins i lost interest in reading what most of them were supposed to be about. ... Cannibiscoin, potato coin .... and a lot of the ones moving today i have no idea. I never heard of peercoin until they said XPY was a fork of it ... which was fine.


I know right. LoL nice find

https://hashtalk.org/topic/13351/zen-hashlet-profit-has-dropped-to-045-and-roi-is-out-to-393-9-days

I posted this 2 months ago. Got a lot of down votes for it. This was around when the shit storm started.

17 votes in total,  14 of which were upvotes.

Which post are you talking about exactly ?

I guess I exaggerated downvotes. But people were saying "why do you expect GAW to "fix things"?" etc. Seems like its the same sentiment now regards to everything else falling apart.

Fair enough, but we here in this thread are trying to deal in facts, not speculation.  Leave that to Homero Talk

Smiley
93  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 20, 2014, 07:55:12 PM
https://hashtalk.org/topic/13351/zen-hashlet-profit-has-dropped-to-045-and-roi-is-out-to-393-9-days

I posted this 2 months ago. Got a lot of down votes for it. This was around when the shit storm started.

17 votes in total,  14 of which were upvotes.

Which post are you talking about exactly ?
94  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 20, 2014, 07:21:11 PM
Ill just leave this here

https://hashtalk.org/topic/24402/just-had-a-conversation-with-a-xpy-dumper-had-to-screenshot-it-for-my-amusement

I have decided to maybe never visit Homero Talk anymore when people are this stupid thinking they are smart.  I am talking about the dumbshit who posted that picture and created the thread.  

He thought he was being smug and a smart ass but turns out that the person just doesn't care about paycoin and doesn't speak English so therefore this must be grounds to mock him.

Man people on HT are pretty stupid.  But we all knew that anyway.


Confirmation

https://hashtalk.org/topic/24718/confirmed-minimum-investment-for-orion-controller-is-50-xpy/3

Post 3 says it all really as to how stupid they all are.
95  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 19, 2014, 07:34:26 AM
Releasing XPY to people now and Josh being smug about dumping just shows that AGAIN he isn't using any of his own money to let people cash out.

Exactly like when hashlet market came out.  Even the prime buy back was a joke and now releasing xpy for other to dump on the 3 exchanges means other gawites are buying you out not Homero.

Typical scam behavior.

96  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 19, 2014, 02:58:31 AM
Looks like Voldor is preparing the masses for the simple fact that we have always known

Peecoin is not worth the 20 bucks its quoted

https://hashtalk.org/topic/24300/can-anyone-here-do-math-why-is-this-so-hard-to-understand/2

See

It begins. Not to mention the bullshit hurdles to withdraw with ther KYC bullshit.  


btw still waiting on my deposit...so slow this peecoin.

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at $4 per coin (with HashPoints). If I can sell them at just $10 (half the promised floor price) I will make a 250% profit.


Not really.

Yes he is, what you quoted IS a prime example of him conditioning the masses, unless you are him you just quoted the line that IS the problem.

Some people idolize him for some stupid reason as well when he is a show off and just as up himself as Josh (remember his thread about who has the better car?)

Remember everyone expect it to be 20 bucks, even when you withdraw xpy is priced at 20.

The simple fact that post and thread exists it to prepare people when GAW refuse to make the 20 floor.

You can deny it as much as you want but its pretty obvious what the thread is trying to do.




Also I am still fucking waiting on my XPY deposit - pushing 25 mins now fucking slow ass coin.



4 to 8 = 100%

4 to 10 = 150%

You dont get it do you

You are covering for Homeros lies. 
97  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 19, 2014, 02:57:31 AM
So it begins....again.

Why complain about 10 dollar value shit coins. Be grateful with the return.

Then.. Are you serious look at the bank rates, you couldn't achive -4% p.a. if you tried. Be grateful,GAW coin is paying you .25% return. Did you really think in these market conditions USD20 per coin was realistic. What is wrong with you none on here guaranteed that. Stop spreading FUD and you are a troll if you truly believed in these market conditions you would get 20 dollars a coin.



So it begins, the gaw shrills or homero alt accounts justifying not paying out another promise.  More broken promises Josh well one.  And then you call people dumping trolls ? unbelievable.
98  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 19, 2014, 02:52:01 AM
Looks like Voldor is preparing the masses for the simple fact that we have always known

Peecoin is not worth the 20 bucks its quoted

https://hashtalk.org/topic/24300/can-anyone-here-do-math-why-is-this-so-hard-to-understand/2

See

It begins. Not to mention the bullshit hurdles to withdraw with ther KYC bullshit.  


btw still waiting on my deposit...so slow this peecoin.

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at $4 per coin (with HashPoints). If I can sell them at just $10 (half the promised floor price) I will make a 250% profit.


Not really.

Yes he is, what you quoted IS a prime example of him conditioning the masses, unless you are him you just quoted the line that IS the problem. Voldor, galdur...whatever..

Some people idolize him for some stupid reason as well, when he is a show off and just as up himself as Josh (remember his thread about who has the better car?)

Remember, everyone expects it to be 20 bucks (josh said so) even when you withdraw, xpy is priced at 20.

The simple fact that post and thread exists, its to prepare people when GAW refuse to make the 20 floor.

You can deny it as much as you want but its pretty obvious what the thread is trying to do.




Also I am still fucking waiting on my XPY deposit - pushing 25 mins now fucking slow ass coin.

99  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 19, 2014, 02:35:34 AM
Looks like Voldor is preparing the masses for the simple fact that we have always known

Peecoin is not worth the 20 bucks its quoted

https://hashtalk.org/topic/24300/can-anyone-here-do-math-why-is-this-so-hard-to-understand/2

See

It begins. Not to mention the bullshit hurdles to withdraw with ther KYC bullshit.  


btw still waiting on my deposit...so slow this peecoin.
100  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) on: December 19, 2014, 02:26:01 AM
XPY sent from cloud to bitterex

Count down is on.  Since I hear nothing but praise at the speed/transmission of peecoin.

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