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81  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 22, 2016, 08:10:29 AM
@ac333
Ceal made out of the product is not the same as Facebook's social network?

not directly, ceal is decentralized and based on p2p. Facebook is censored and centralized. But both provide communication and information medium channels. Ceal has elements of social networks but is going be free, open-source and uncensored.
82  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 22, 2016, 05:25:00 AM
How much price every one ceal coin

third answer in post above. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1644145.msg16642081#msg16642081
83  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 22, 2016, 02:56:16 AM
@ca333

If I send btc from the blockchain wallet, is it necessary to master the private key? Is it invalid if there is no private key?

if you sent it to generated deposit address then no. i sent you PM.

What need I post on signature memo?

sign the txID and submit the signature in the form on ceal.io. please validate the signature on coinig.com.

how much total supply coin and what price ico?

Quote
how much total supply
133 Mio CEAL will be generated for the ceal-network.
The crowdfund-limit is 1333 BTC. The crowdfund ends on November 16th or after this amount is raised.

Quote
what price ico
AFAIK Price is determined after knowing the total investor funds

yes exact.


I am not affiliated with the Devs, but as I see so many questions and confusion about the early bonus timeout, I feel someone should serve as a countdown timer Smiley

I will be the one. According to the Devs post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1644145.msg16633692#msg16633692,
the cut-off time for early investor bonus is Oct 22, 01:00 PM UTC
This is taking into account the grace period kindly added by Devs.

The current UTC time now is:
7:35 PM
Friday, October 21, 2016
Coordinated Universal Time (UTC)

So there is 17 hours 25 minutes left for early investor bonus!

I will try to post this from time to time, so everyone can see it, and do not tell things like "this is joke"/"scam" and other similar not justified and irrelevant comments.

thank you for effort. Smiley
84  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 21, 2016, 04:01:53 PM
@ca333
10% bonus begin today (17th october) and will last for 3 days (21st oct). All early supporter get 10% of total CEAL.
Early birds reward is now over? How long does it end? Transfer coins to https://www.ceal.io/crowd inside the address need to pay attention to what?

We prolonged it by 24h. In many places around the world it is 21st oct now. In others it is 20th in the morning.
85  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 21, 2016, 07:22:25 AM
Quote from: wavespump
LOL, get rude? When your campaign manager was rude to me, where are you? You didn't fire that guy? His rudiness will make investors keep away.

I am sorry if you got offend in any way. This is clearly not the intention of our team/project although i personally think human being should be able to say whatever they think. Still we should all communicate in a good fashion and with good behaviour/wording. I think we are all civilised enough to interact peaceful with each. So take my apologize please, in the name of the team, in the name of ceal.


I dont understand where the problem is. Just go 2 pages back: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1644145.msg16608819#msg16608819    - i think this is very clear statement? if the wording leads to misunderstanding please just say and I will adapt the post. But from what i see it is clear. Now again: 3 day bonustimeframe is still active for ~ 32h.

Everything is pretty much clear. you just need to add this new Bonus Time Line. and if you can hear me then please add 1, or 2 more days for bonus.. because the awareness about Ceal was not that much in the market and crypto investors before last few days..  and people didn't know about this..
but now new people attracting to it. and the bonus will attract them more.

Accepted. Will prolong it by 24h.
86  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 21, 2016, 07:03:01 AM
ICO announced on 12 Oct, starting same day, and 10% of supply to be split by contributors of the first 3 days. And dev didn't even announce a cut-off time with clear timezone. Is this a joke? Is the real goal to raise funds, or to put as much of the premine as possible in your pocket?

First transaction in escrow address is dated18 Oct. Does that mean that there was no contribution from 12~14 Oct?

please do not get rude. We can all communicate like adults. To your answer: Crowdfund campaign announced oct 12th. Escrow introduced himself october 17th. From that date, 3 day bonus started. Bonus timeframe is still active untill october 21st 01:00pm UTC. If you had read the thread before asking if it is a joke things would have been clear for you.



ICO announced on 12 Oct, starting same day, and 10% of supply to be split by contributors of the first 3 days. And dev didn't even announce a cut-off time with clear timezone. Is this a joke? Is the real goal to raise funds, or to put as much of the premine as possible in your pocket?

First transaction in escrow address is dated18 Oct. Does that mean that there was no contribution from 12~14 Oct?

Valid point, it looks like a joke.  Grin  No official start time, no escrow before ico started.

take answer above analogue to your statement..

ICO announced on 12 Oct, starting same day, and 10% of supply to be split by contributors of the first 3 days. And dev didn't even announce a cut-off time with clear timezone. Is this a joke? Is the real goal to raise funds, or to put as much of the premine as possible in your pocket?

First transaction in escrow address is dated18 Oct. Does that mean that there was no contribution from 12~14 Oct?

Valid point, it looks like a joke.  Grin  No official start time, no escrow before ico started.

what I understand is the ICO was started at 14 Oct 2016. but that time the proper promotions was not started and escrow was not arranged up. so no one invested that time..

I understand your point and I think it is 100% valid..
The bonus should be start from 18 OCT after agreement of Escorw. and I think it is not a big deal. Ca333 can still announce that, (and he'll do it I am sure)
Everyone will receive 10% bonus.

I dont understand where the problem is. Just go 2 pages back: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1644145.msg16608819#msg16608819    - i think this is very clear statement? if the wording leads to misunderstanding please just say and I will adapt the post. But from what i see it is clear.
#EDIT: 3 day bonustimeframe is active for ~ 32h. (prolonged by 24h)
87  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 21, 2016, 12:45:34 AM
Escrow Address

This is only an observation address, please don't send to that address directly!

This is a 2 of 3 multisig address where I hold 2 of three keys. The funds are secured by trustedcoin.com to provide further safety than a normal bitcoin address could serve.

The escrow address is:
Code:
3Gibs2RC9Lg2XkK7LnuoWaXn5VfAAdMFh7

Don't send to a quoted escrow address. ALWAYS only check out my post directly and send to that address! And please check regularly if the escrow link or address was changed in the first post of thread. Inform me fast by pm, post in the thread about it and give red trust if possible to warn others fast then. If you sent me a pm then I will know about it and can act by giving red trust to the issuer to prevent damage.

@SebastianJu: could you please remove from your post the text I marked in red above? If I understand correctly, we should not send to the escrow address anyway. So the highlighted sentence creates confusion, as it requires to actually send the funds to escrow address... Please confirm the funds need to be sent to the address provided by the ICO website after logging in, as actually I am a bit confused too right now Smiley

thank you for pointing out. i advice all readers: take it as general warning: Anybody should never send to a quoted address. I confirm that the funds have to be sent via the ico-platform. if its not fully clear, read the posts in this thread and read SebastianJu's post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1644145.msg16603680#msg16603680
LINE #3: "The escrow address should not be used as a direct deposit address. Instead you will use the service provided by the issuer..."
the rest is just some standard text i think(if you checked previous icos escrowed by SebastianJu).
hope it is clear.
88  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 20, 2016, 08:33:23 PM
thank you very much. Team is ready - we are three people. I am main developer. You can see some of my previous opensource work of me in my github or btt-history:

https://github.com/ca333/
----
https://github.com/ca333/rng-scanner
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977070
----
https://github.com/ca333/bitcoinjs-meteor is a package i coded about 1.5 yrs ago. It is also on:
https://atmospherejs.com/ca333/bitcoinjs  --> this is the most used bitcoin library for the meteor (node v8) framework.

After the ICO i intend to preliminary enlarge the team by 1-2 people.

This project seems interesting, is there a team ready or is the founder waiting to assemble the team after the ICO? Can someone throw more light to it. Since sebastianju is escrowing the ICO, it should be receiving positive responses form the community. I wish the project the very best!

Which programming languages are going to be used on the project? I suppose its mainly C++?

Do you have experience with C/C++? I supposed you are mostly web-developer...

Another related question: which expertise each of the team members possesses?

Mostly on cpp. Few python and shell scripts going to included in the alpha. I worked a lot with c, cpp - lot embeded development. You can not survive as developer without this knowledge. IMO this is the real software-developing. My web-developments are/were mainly free-time projects and hobbies. I think about it as digital art. But i also think any good developer can do webdevelopment beside "real" coding without big efforts.
to your last question: "He that praises himself spatters himself."
89  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 20, 2016, 12:33:53 PM
CEAL ICO Signature Campaign Officially Started:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1654979

Feel Free To Join and Earn Free CEAL.

What does 1 ceal worth now?
how much 1 inchain worth now that you are in their signature campaign? this is such an stupid question. the coin is in ICO right now. how could I or anyone can tell you the coin's value?

But when you get payment the coins value will be very good because payment will be in end of ICO.
What is relation between Ceal and Inchain?
Nice concepts on Ceal. Hope that the roadmap milestone will be reached on time.
Decentralized Message system will be one of important trend on top of Blockchain Technology.
There's a race among on-building blockchain based message platform. Will Ceal win? Do your best, Dev. Good luck!


thank you. From what i read, inchain is a insurance platform. We have no relation with Inchain. Milestones are going to be reached on time. The ceal-tokens netlaunch will be in time. The distribution upon crowdfund investors will take place on or around november 16th or 48h after the crowdfund has ended. We, the ceal-team have further plans with our platform. Especially the layer 1 of our network can be used for other purposes. I dont want to disclose too much information in this stage of the project. But i am sure it is going to be very exciting and interesting.
I do my best - thank you!
90  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 20, 2016, 09:30:53 AM
thank you very much. Team is ready - we are three people. I am main developer. You can see some of my previous opensource work of me in my github or btt-history:

https://github.com/ca333/
----
https://github.com/ca333/rng-scanner
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977070
----
https://github.com/ca333/bitcoinjs-meteor is a package i coded about 1.5 yrs ago. It is also on:
https://atmospherejs.com/ca333/bitcoinjs  --> this is the most used bitcoin library for the meteor (node v8) framework.

After the ICO i intend to preliminary enlarge the team by 1-2 people.

This project seems interesting, is there a team ready or is the founder waiting to assemble the team after the ICO? Can someone throw more light to it. Since sebastianju is escrowing the ICO, it should be receiving positive responses form the community. I wish the project the very best!
91  Economy / Auctions / Re: Domain Name Auction : Xeno.COM on: October 20, 2016, 08:16:31 AM
i am highly interested. but its little too much for me. would you go lower with the starting bid?
92  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 20, 2016, 08:01:37 AM
Please reserve a spot for india (hindi) translation for me .Thanks

reserved. For the other translators: Please PM me if you want to translate OP.
93  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 19, 2016, 07:55:38 AM
No, not "at last". We decided this before we announced CEAL. We wanted escrow from the start of this project.

At last Ceal team decided to do the right thing, there are some people that I valued their opinion on this forum and Greed is one of them but seen SebastianJu has the Escrow for this project changed my view about the developer, SebastianJu is a brand name here and the work he has done speak for itself. I actually don't have issue with the project idea, the main issue I have is the trust issue with the developers.
94  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 19, 2016, 07:48:46 AM
I would like to participate in bounty,i have youtube and facebook.How to claim social media bounty?Is there any google form that we need to sign up?or any spreadsheet for tracking bounty?

We are upgrading the website today and will add a sign-up page for signature and social-media campaigns.

I would like to participate in bounty,i have youtube and facebook.How to claim social media bounty?Is there any google form that we need to sign up?or any spreadsheet for tracking bounty?

and how to claim bounty for translation too

i have a list of translators. PM me when we launch the ceal-tokens network.

Is ico deadline pushing later? Cause I see the initial promotion is not big, and you don't have escrow in early days. It will influence the ico result.

initial promotion is very big. it is not only 10% bonus. It is 10% of total CEAL which are divided on early supporters (until 20th oct).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1644145.msg16608819#msg16608819
95  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 19, 2016, 06:41:32 AM
I would like to participate in bounty,i have youtube and facebook.How to claim social media bounty?Is there any google form that we need to sign up?or any spreadsheet for tracking bounty?

We are upgrading the website and adding a sign-up page for signature and social-media campaigns.


I would like to participate in bounty,i have youtube and facebook.How to claim social media bounty?Is there any google form that we need to sign up?or any spreadsheet for tracking bounty?

and how to claim bounty for translation too

i have a list of translators. PM me when we launch the ceal-tokens network.
96  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 18, 2016, 09:47:33 PM
Not right. From the moment SebastianJu posted escrow agreement, all deposits will be transferred to escrow-address according to SebastianJu's rules. The crowdfund-page was modified for this (after/when he made the public post). Please follow his instructions, otherwise he is NOT ABLE to identify you.


#EDIT: i transfered the 3 deposits to the escrow address to clear any doubts. I will take care about investor verification.

Shouldn't something already be visible here: https://blockchain.info/address/3Gibs2RC9Lg2XkK7LnuoWaXn5VfAAdMFh7 ?

I suppose the early invested funds should be transferred to under escrow address, even if the investment was done before SebastianJu was introduced here, right?
97  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 18, 2016, 09:30:00 PM
Further informations:
 
133 Mio CEAL will be generated for the ceal-network.  
10% will be reserved for the ceal-team from which 3.33% will be uses for bounties and other campaigns.
80% are going to be distributed to the crowd-funders in proportional relation of their support.
10% will be split among early-adopters (of the first 3 days) proportional to their investment amount .
The crowdfund-limit is 1333 BTC. The crowdfund ends on November 16th or after this amount is raised.
Please PM me if you want to use escrow.

The automated crowdfund will take place under https://www.ceal.io beginning on october 12th 2016.


Escrow: crowdfund-funds are held in escrow by SebstianJu


hi dev the escrow for your project is active from today

can you tell if the three days (early-adopters)  beginning today?

How much BTC was invested in first 3 days? How many people participated?
This info should be open.

not much. first 3 days 3 participants. I am going to add this info to website with realtime. (first 3 day countdown begins when escrow is available)


It seems 10% bonus strats today, better of OP manager confirm that

Further informations:
 
133 Mio CEAL will be generated for the ceal-network.  
10% will be reserved for the ceal-team from which 3.33% will be uses for bounties and other campaigns.
80% are going to be distributed to the crowd-funders in proportional relation of their support.
10% will be split among early-adopters (of the first 3 days) proportional to their investment amount .
The crowdfund-limit is 1333 BTC. The crowdfund ends on November 16th or after this amount is raised.
Please PM me if you want to use escrow.

The automated crowdfund will take place under https://www.ceal.io beginning on october 12th 2016.


Escrow: crowdfund-funds are held in escrow by SebstianJu


hi dev the escrow for your project is active from today

can you tell if the three days (early-adopters)  beginning today?


yes we confirm. 10% bonus begin today (17th october) and will last for 3 days (21st oct). All early supporter get 10% of total CEAL.
98  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 18, 2016, 02:44:31 PM
/shortened

Info to dev:

Please post in the op something like this:

Quote
The bitcoin escrow address is ***NOT FOR DIRECT INVESTING***:
Code:
3Gibs2RC9Lg2XkK7LnuoWaXn5VfAAdMFh7
Check if your investment is forwarded to the escrow address and alarm me when this did not happen!

ONLY invest after reading the escrow terms regarding how to invest, safety escrow can provide and refund terms: #####Link to my post#####

Please check occassionally that the escrow address in OP is the same like it is in escrow post and inform me quickly and negrep the dev if it changed.

thank you very much SebastianJu. Info added to OP.

Nice. Now we got a trusted escrow.

Prob more people will invest now!

Good job

yes - very glad we have one of most trusted escrow-partner.

You are right, SebastianJu is very reputable and trustful guy. You forgot one kind of new scam, self-escrow scam like declouds, 2 of 3 multisig escrow, but the dev pretended to be one of the escrow, and dev owns one key, it means the scammer has 2 keys.

Funfact... I negated escrowing declouds after long negotiating because I could not trust them: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1552176.msg15847585#msg15847585

At the end the third escrow they used got in quite some trouble because he was holding a key.

After i had OP user account proof,  offered my services as escrow and i am still waiting answer...
Now i read about SebastianJu and i am very proud of him, i can invest myself as asked to ca333.
I really like the way he rules escrowing....

thumb up. As aforementioned, i had asked SebastianJu and that is why i did wait for him to agree for escrow. We dealt with each in the past and all was good. He is highly trustworthy. And thank you for this positive statement.
99  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 17, 2016, 08:17:39 PM
How much BTC was invested in first 3 days? How many people participated?
This info should be open.

not much. first 3 days 3 participants. I am going to add this info to website with realtime. (first 3 day countdown begins when escrow is available)
100  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]ceal.io - decentralized information and messaging network - crowdfund live on: October 17, 2016, 01:48:29 PM
3 days passed and you didn't found any escrows!?

Escrow already found, just waiting for his post. SebastianJU agreed to act as escrow.

#edit: We announced the project while we were in contact with escrow partner. From the beginning we said there will come escrow and 3 day bonus will start then. This should not be a problem so. Only wait for escrow please.
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