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81  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: February 19, 2015, 10:38:22 PM
Directbet would not take Duke action

We take as many bets as we possibly can.

However, not all bets are available at all times. Our automated betting system might temporarily suspend a particular selection as part of its risk management or for other reasons.

That being said, I am glad to see that you were able to place a bet on Duke during the game and get it confirmed at excellent odds, higher than the odds you requested, and that you ended up winning the bet.

Congratulations on your win !

Excellent odds my ass. I submitted the initial request @ +600 (when Duke was a +2000 dog @ Bet 365). It was confirmed @ +102 in a tie game.

82  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: February 19, 2015, 04:39:54 AM
Please avoid this place at all costs. Though they appear to be customer friendly, their tactics behind the scenes are criminal. I saw a video posted on another forum that showed how they alter their odds and only offer one side of a bet at a time to make the house edge even more advantageous. It was crazy to watch the spike in odds side by side with the Bet365 odds which the video showed as well. It was like DB was offering 2 sets of lines. The lines would match 365's , and then all of a sudden they would take down the real lines and offer bogus lines.

So, tonight, I thought I'd check it out on the Duke vs. North Carolina game.

Keep in mind, this is a premier ESPN game - the biggest NCAA basketball rivalry. There should be odds on both sides throughout the game.

North Carolina took a 9 point lead with 4 minutes to go. DB offered UNC at -5000, and did not offer duke. UNC held a 7 point lead with 2 minutes left. Same story. Duke came back to tie it with 30 seconds left. The first time Duke was offered in the last 5 minutes of regulation was +102. Directbet would not take Duke action when it became clear that Duke was going to win the game. 5 lead changes in overtime, UNC was offered throughout overtime and Duke - again - was not offered.
83  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 24, 2015, 05:11:13 AM
Worth noting:

Licensed operations (like Bet365) have their favorite & underdog odds tied together, so that when they lower odds on the underdog, the favorite's odds immediately change in line. DirectBet you can actually get fucked with an EXTREMELY bad line since they don't honor abide by this standard.
84  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 24, 2015, 05:07:02 AM
Here's what these fucking crooks do. An example:

Underdog is at 5.0

Favorite is at 1.1


Underdog is losing 65-64.

Underdog scores to make it 67-65.


Directbet (they will blame the odds provider) will do the following.

Immediately lower the odds for the underdog from 5.0 to 3.5 (example - may not be 3.5, but close)

In some instances, they will actually jack up the odds for the favorite from 1.1 to 1.05 (yes - unbelievable, but this happens) before finally resting upon something like 1.15
85  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 24, 2015, 04:53:40 AM
Explain this:

22:30 Santos Laguna v Monterrey Mexican Primera Division 

Current score = Laguna 3, Monterrey 0

If you are going to offer odds for Monterrey & the draw, you better as fuck offer odds for ALL FUCKING SIDES (365 has laguna @ 1/125 right now).

LIVE !   Match Odds

Santos Laguna @ Negotiate
Monterrey @ 75
The Draw @ 65


GUESS WHAT FUCKER!? YOU'RE GOING TO JAIL FOR TAX EVASION & RUNNING AN ILLEGAL GAMBLING OPERATION! I KNOW YOUR INFO!
86  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 23, 2015, 08:40:22 PM
Now that my bet has finally been settled, I will state the following:

1) I'm done playing here
2) Your operation is unlicensed & illegal. It is HIGHLY illegal in the jurisdiction you operate from
    a) I have your information and will be filing a formal complaint with the government
    b) Your information will be posted for everyone to see
        i.) anyone who has been wronged by your site will be encouraged to join me in legal action


DirectBet - feel free to PM me

87  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 23, 2015, 08:18:11 PM
Then there's the whole "settlement in progress" bullshit. You seem to have no problem taking in our money instantly.....but when it comes to payouts, you hold our fucking money.
I guess it's just you.

I have never had any problems with payouts here. All my bets paid out within 15 minutes after the result is known.

3 days ago I would have said the same. These past few days have been AWFUL. The games get graded as "won", and then sit and wait for settlement in a "settlement in progress" state. And yes, my bets have 1+ confirmations, so that's not the issue.
88  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 23, 2015, 08:05:30 PM
Then there's the whole "settlement in progress" bullshit. You seem to have no problem taking in our money instantly.....but when it comes to payouts, you hold our fucking money.
89  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 23, 2015, 07:40:55 PM
How is this even remotely fair? This isn't even one of the "bad" ones. This is par for the course at Directbet for Live games (except for live soccer, which has fair odds).

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http://www.directbet.eu/Event.cshtml?EventID=777

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I'm not looking for a bet with no house edge. I totally understand that you need to have an edge for sports, which is more than fine. But, you are way outside of the acceptable vig % for most events. In some cases, you try to downright steal by offering odds on a player who is about to lose (which are nowhere close to what the real odds should be) but not offering any odds on the player who is about to win.
90  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 23, 2015, 06:59:54 PM
13:00 Slask Wroclaw v Trefl Sopot Polish PLK 2014/15 



LIVE !   Moneyline
Slask Wroclaw @ -625.1
Trefl Sopot @ +225


How is this even remotely fair? This isn't even one of the "bad" ones. This is par for the course at Directbet for Live games (except for live soccer, which has fair odds).

You blame the odds provider, but you are the ones that pay them to provide you with the service. You also tell them how much margin to set between the favorite and underdog. You are price gouging. Also, only offering one side of a bet is complete bullshit. No odds provider in the world would do that on their own. Look at Bet365 - they ALWAYS have both sides of a match. Your odds are typically not even close to theirs for basketball, baseball, football.

This is part of the reason why unlicensed betting operations are illegal. The book can do whatever they want and the customer has no protection.

This same event at Bet365 has Wroclaw @ -390 and Trefl @+280
91  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 23, 2015, 06:56:22 PM
13:00 Slask Wroclaw v Trefl Sopot Polish PLK 2014/15 



LIVE !   Moneyline
Slask Wroclaw @ -625.1
Trefl Sopot @ +225


How is this even remotely fair? This isn't even one of the "bad" ones. This is par for the course at Directbet for Live games (except for live soccer, which has fair odds).

You blame the odds provider, but you are the ones that pay them to provide you with the service. You also tell them how much margin to set between the favorite and underdog. You are price gouging. Also, only offering one side of a bet is complete bullshit. No odds provider in the world would do that on their own. Look at Bet365 - they ALWAYS have both sides of a match. Your odds are typically not even close to theirs for basketball, baseball, football.
92  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 21, 2015, 08:47:17 PM
site is broken, bets stuck in "settlement in progress"
93  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 14, 2015, 04:59:30 AM
site broken
94  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 12, 2015, 04:00:14 AM
Any plans to add more college basketball? Don't see very many lines often. Like tonight just 1 game

They have this one!


LIVE !   Moneyline
Arizona @ Negotiate
LIVE !   Oregon St +9.5
Oregon St +9.5 @ Negotiate
Arizona -9.5 @ Negotiate
LIVE !   Total Match Points
Under 122.5pts @ Negotiate
Over 122.5pts @ Negotiate


Oh wait, they just have it as 'negotiate'. As per DirectBet, that means that they expect to have odds at some point in the game. Good luck, I'd rather search for a needle in a haystack. Awful.
95  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 11, 2015, 09:13:28 PM
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96  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 10, 2015, 02:24:51 AM
When you list a event as live, us customers expect you to have odds for it. Your in play odds on everything other than soccer are juiced higher tha any other book. I'm willing to accept that, but don't list events that sit in the "negotiate" state for the ENTIRE MATCH.

Thank you for the suggestion. We will consider removing such bets completely.

Have you tried placing such a negotiated only bet ? If so, did you not find it useful ?

Why is it so important to you that we remove such bets completely from display rather than giving a chance for others who might be able to get them confirmed sometimes ?

Because it's misleading, as I mentioned before. When you list an event, you are implying that you will have odds for it (because you usually do). What good is it for the customer to place a negotiate bet, sit through an entire game, and not have it picked up?

Also, I noticed that one of the teams (Newcastle) would intermittently "drop off". What's going on behind the scenes that causes this? Your provider obviously has odds available, but something is causing them not to be shown on your site.

There are other books with live soccer.

The bet in question was on a British Basketball League game.

DirectBet offered bets on this game while other Bitcoin Sportbooks did not.

As for Soccer, DirectBet offers the most comprehensive live in-play Soccer coverage from all other Bitcoin Sportbooks.

A lot of Bitcoin Sportsbooks offered bets on the BBL basketball game. Nitrogen & Anonibet to name a couple. You may have had pre-match odds, but you did not have anything in-play (for ANY of the BBL games)....yet you listed them as live.
97  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 10, 2015, 02:17:27 AM
When you list a event as live, us customers expect you to have odds for it. Your in play odds on everything other than soccer are juiced higher tha any other book. I'm willing to accept that, but don't list events that sit in the "negotiate" state for the ENTIRE MATCH.

Thank you for the suggestion. We will consider removing such bets completely.

Have you tried placing such a negotiated only bet ? If so, did you not find it useful ?

Why is it so important to you that we remove such bets completely from display rather than giving a chance for others who might be able to get them confirmed sometimes ?

Because it's misleading, as I mentioned before. When you list an event, you are implying that you will have odds for it (because you usually do). What good is it for the customer to place a negotiate bet, sit through an entire game, and not have it picked up?

Also, I noticed that one of the teams (Newcastle) would intermittently "drop off". What's going on behind the scenes that causes this? Your provider obviously has odds available, but something is causing them not to be shown on your site.
98  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 09, 2015, 09:36:17 PM
When you list a event as live, us customers expect you to have odds for it. Your in play odds on everything other than soccer are juiced higher tha any other book. I'm willing to accept that, but don't list events that sit in the "negotiate" state for the ENTIRE MATCH.
99  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 09, 2015, 09:30:06 PM
Why even list these events? You have had it (and other BBL games) listed as LIVE! since they started, but "NEGOTIATE" for every single option. Midway through the 2nd quarter and still not one line.

Some bets can only be negotiated in-play. What that means is that betting is temporarily suspended for this selection, but it is expected to become available later. Rather than waiting you have an option to put in a negotiated bet so that your bet might confirm automatically if and when betting is resumed, even for just a short period of time, and you can set up the minimum required odds or cancel the bet at any time as long as the bet is not yet confirmed.

As of this writing this bet is no longer shown at all because betting is no longer expected to resume as we approach the end of the match.

If you don't wish to use this feature you can simply ignore these bets and treat them as if they are not available. The majority of bets do have fixed odds.

LOL @ "as of this writing this bet is no longer shown".......wanna know why? Because the event ended. I had that screen open for the entire game, and it alternated between both teems as 'negotiate' and then sometimes would go to only Worcester as 'negotiate'. It was available until 37 seconds left in the match. Congrats.
100  Economy / Gambling / Re: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Rated # 1 by Bitcointalk Members ! on: January 09, 2015, 09:09:51 PM
14:30 Worcester v Newcastle British Basketball League 2014/15 



Why even list these events? You have had it (and other BBL games) listed as LIVE! since they started, but "NEGOTIATE" for every single option. Midway through the 2nd quarter and still not one line.

SO MISLEADING! DON't PUT IT UP IF YOU WON't HAVE ODDS! Don't tell me your provider doesn't have odds. Bet365 has the odds, and you use a similar (same?) provider.

They do that in all sports. When it goes live it's almost always negotiate. It is misleading. There are other books with live soccer.

It's classic bait & switch, even though I'm sure DB intending for that to be the case. It's like a store advertising a product that they don't sell. But, they sell a hell of a lot of other products. The problem is that when we, the customer, bring it to their attention.....they do nothing.
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