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Author Topic: DirectBet – LIVE Sportsbook & Racebook. Now Accepting Ether !  (Read 759884 times)
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January 21, 2015, 03:24:56 AM
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I too have experienced this sort of thing ..

but only shifted slightly ods her.

Please e-mail us your bet ID if you were affected by this.

We're working with the Darkcoin team to ensure this will not happen again. Meanwhile, our Darkcoin wallet is up and running normally now.
ok ..
I'll tell you if this happens again,,
all this for the common good ...

oh yes, whether directbet fanspage have facebook?

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January 21, 2015, 08:21:19 AM
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ok ..
I'll tell you if this happens again,,
all this for the common good ...

oh yes, whether directbet fanspage have facebook?

Hi iqbal14st,

Thanks a lot Smiley

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January 21, 2015, 03:56:20 PM
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has anyone also noticed delays in setting of bets last few days  Cry ?

I mean the bet result is already provided in the betslip (=won), but there still appears:
Bet Status : Settlement in Progress

Message : A Payout of XXXXXX BTC will be issued after 1 confirmation.


(http://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1NA6NaeDGL8jhRsUTfpZH4UAFGkfBXfYFH)

The transaction already has 2 confirmations however. Yesterday this even happened to me with a betslip
where the bet was settled as won but the payout was delayed in spite of the original betting transaction
having 5 confirmations (5 confirmations should be more than enough if you promise to pay out after 1!)



This means not that I´m not content with Directbet, but I use this site longtime and the delays of bet settlement
have gotten worse over time!

Or am I the only one who feels like this?

This especially sucks if you want to gamble your winnings directly again, if you need to wait 20 minutes or more after the match is finished.


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January 21, 2015, 04:02:24 PM
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maybe the issue is that you "pool" several winning payouts of users in order
to save transaction fees!

I don´t mean this as an attack, because I understand the economic reasons for this.

And at a service like bitstamp it is perfectly fine to pool payouts in order to save fees.

But you´re a website with livebetting where fast payouts are absolutely essential.


Hope you understand what I mean  Wink

Maybe you can improve this again.
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January 21, 2015, 04:06:55 PM
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has anyone also noticed delays in setting of bets last few days  Cry ?

I mean the bet result is already provided in the betslip (=won), but there still appears:
Bet Status : Settlement in Progress

Message : A Payout of XXXXXX BTC will be issued after 1 confirmation.


(http://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1NA6NaeDGL8jhRsUTfpZH4UAFGkfBXfYFH)

The transaction already has 2 confirmations however. Yesterday this even happened to me with a betslip
where the bet was settled as won but the payout was delayed in spite of the original betting transaction
having 5 confirmations (5 confirmations should be more than enough if you promise to pay out after 1!)



This means not that I´m not content with Directbet, but I use this site longtime and the delays of bet settlement
have gotten worse over time!

Or am I the only one who feels like this?

This especially sucks if you want to gamble your winnings directly again, if you need to wait 20 minutes or more after the match is finished.



I never had this problem.
I received all my winnings instantly after 1 confirmation.
maybe the issue is that you "pool" several winning payouts of users in order
to save transaction fees!

I don´t mean this as an attack, because I understand the economic reasons for this.

And at a service like bitstamp it is perfectly fine to pool payouts in order to save fees.

But you´re a website with livebetting where fast payouts are absolutely essential.


Hope you understand what I mean  Wink

Maybe you can improve this again.

what's the use of pooling several winnings? The winnings already have tx fee(0.0001BTC) cut from the total.
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January 21, 2015, 04:16:28 PM
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has anyone also noticed delays in setting of bets last few days  Cry ?

I mean the bet result is already provided in the betslip (=won), but there still appears:
Bet Status : Settlement in Progress

Message : A Payout of XXXXXX BTC will be issued after 1 confirmation.


(http://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1NA6NaeDGL8jhRsUTfpZH4UAFGkfBXfYFH)

The transaction already has 2 confirmations however. Yesterday this even happened to me with a betslip
where the bet was settled as won but the payout was delayed in spite of the original betting transaction
having 5 confirmations (5 confirmations should be more than enough if you promise to pay out after 1!)



This means not that I´m not content with Directbet, but I use this site longtime and the delays of bet settlement
have gotten worse over time!

Or am I the only one who feels like this?

This especially sucks if you want to gamble your winnings directly again, if you need to wait 20 minutes or more after the match is finished.




I never had this problem.
I received all my winnings instantly after 1 confirmation.

don´t know but since a few days I always wait like 20-30 minutes even if my transaction has multiple confirmations.

The current bet was on 1st half of portuguese cup. The bet was instantly settled as won after halftime whistle.
(at this point there were already 2 confirmations)

However I got the payout now, after 7 minutes played in 2nd half.

That means I had to wait:
-15 minutes of haltime
-7 minutes of play

=22 minutes

That´s not instant and my transaction already had enough confirmations at halftime Wink


maybe the issue is that you "pool" several winning payouts of users in order
to save transaction fees!

I don´t mean this as an attack, because I understand the economic reasons for this.

And at a service like bitstamp it is perfectly fine to pool payouts in order to save fees.

But you´re a website with livebetting where fast payouts are absolutely essential.


Hope you understand what I mean  Wink

Maybe you can improve this again.

what's the use of pooling several winnings? The winnings already have tx fee(0.0001BTC) cut from the total.

I don´t think they deduct transcation fee from the bet payout.

See my above betslip, the payout I got know was 244,8 without a single satoshi being deducted as fee Wink
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January 21, 2015, 04:22:05 PM
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maybe the issue is that you "pool" several winning payouts of users in order
to save transaction fees!

We don't combine several payouts into a single transaction because we don't want to hold out payouts.
Each payout is sent out independently as soon as it is technically possible.

Sometimes during rush hours it takes a few more minutes for payouts to be issued due to a technical limitation. The reason is because we have too many payouts to issue simultaneously for players playing with the Direct Dice and it's clogging up the wallet.

We understand you want it faster and will attempt to improve that in the coming days. Meanwhile, if your bet status says "Settlement in Progress", rest assured the payout is being issued.

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January 21, 2015, 04:24:00 PM
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The winnings already have tx fee(0.0001BTC) cut from the total.

We don't deduct fees for sport bets payouts.

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January 21, 2015, 04:24:39 PM
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maybe the issue is that you "pool" several winning payouts of users in order
to save transaction fees!

We don't combine several payouts into a single transaction because we don't want to hold out payouts.
Each payout is sent out independently as soon as it is technically possible.

Sometimes during rush hours it takes a few more minutes for payouts to be issued due to a technical limitation. The reason is because we have too many payouts to issue simultaneously for players playing with the Direct Dice and it's clogging up the wallet.

We understand you want it faster and will attempt to improve that in the coming days. Meanwhile, if your bet status says "Settlement in Progress", rest assured the payout is being issued.

thank you for the explanation (and a fast reply!)

However, don´t you think it would be better in the long-term if you let Direct-Dice and Directbet run on different servers?
I´m not sure if that is possible because they seem to be intertwined, but if Dice traffic would really pick up and increase
the situation will get worse.

And no one wants slow bet payouts I guess.

But maybe you manage to improve it with some other way.
Thank you anyways.
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January 21, 2015, 05:52:49 PM
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However, don´t you think it would be better in the long-term if you let Direct-Dice and Directbet run on different servers?

Thanks for the suggestion, we will look into it and find the best solution.

The 20 minutes payout delay that you experienced is quite rare and despite the delay you received the payout while the event was still in progress  Wink

Nevertheless, we are happy to be under high expectations and will work to improve that in the coming days.

Thanks again for your feedback and thanks for betting at DirectBet.

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January 21, 2015, 08:06:10 PM
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January 21, 2015, 08:47:17 PM
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site is broken, bets stuck in "settlement in progress"
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January 21, 2015, 09:04:12 PM
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site is broken, bets stuck in "settlement in progress"

If your bet status says "Settlement in Progress" rest assured the payout is being processed and you should receive it within a few minutes.

It takes a few minutes due to the high volume of simultaneous payouts that we're currently processing.

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January 23, 2015, 04:25:39 PM
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January 23, 2015, 06:56:22 PM
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13:00 Slask Wroclaw v Trefl Sopot Polish PLK 2014/15 



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Slask Wroclaw @ -625.1
Trefl Sopot @ +225


How is this even remotely fair? This isn't even one of the "bad" ones. This is par for the course at Directbet for Live games (except for live soccer, which has fair odds).

You blame the odds provider, but you are the ones that pay them to provide you with the service. You also tell them how much margin to set between the favorite and underdog. You are price gouging. Also, only offering one side of a bet is complete bullshit. No odds provider in the world would do that on their own. Look at Bet365 - they ALWAYS have both sides of a match. Your odds are typically not even close to theirs for basketball, baseball, football.
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January 23, 2015, 06:59:54 PM
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13:00 Slask Wroclaw v Trefl Sopot Polish PLK 2014/15 



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Slask Wroclaw @ -625.1
Trefl Sopot @ +225


How is this even remotely fair? This isn't even one of the "bad" ones. This is par for the course at Directbet for Live games (except for live soccer, which has fair odds).

You blame the odds provider, but you are the ones that pay them to provide you with the service. You also tell them how much margin to set between the favorite and underdog. You are price gouging. Also, only offering one side of a bet is complete bullshit. No odds provider in the world would do that on their own. Look at Bet365 - they ALWAYS have both sides of a match. Your odds are typically not even close to theirs for basketball, baseball, football.

This is part of the reason why unlicensed betting operations are illegal. The book can do whatever they want and the customer has no protection.

This same event at Bet365 has Wroclaw @ -390 and Trefl @+280
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January 23, 2015, 07:35:37 PM
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How is this even remotely fair? This isn't even one of the "bad" ones. This is par for the course at Directbet for Live games (except for live soccer, which has fair odds).

If you're looking for a bet with no house edge you may want to check our Direct Dice.

http://www.directbet.eu/Event.cshtml?EventID=777

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In fact, you can actually gain a small edge over the house, because while betting with no house edge you're freerolling on the 10 BTC Jackpot !

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January 23, 2015, 07:40:55 PM
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How is this even remotely fair? This isn't even one of the "bad" ones. This is par for the course at Directbet for Live games (except for live soccer, which has fair odds).

If you're looking for a bet with no house edge you may want to check our Direct Dice.

http://www.directbet.eu/Event.cshtml?EventID=777

Direct Dice is a provably fair dice betting game featuring no house edge for frequent bettors.

In fact, you can actually gain a small edge over the house, because while betting with no house edge you're freerolling on the 10 BTC Jackpot !

I'm not looking for a bet with no house edge. I totally understand that you need to have an edge for sports, which is more than fine. But, you are way outside of the acceptable vig % for most events. In some cases, you try to downright steal by offering odds on a player who is about to lose (which are nowhere close to what the real odds should be) but not offering any odds on the player who is about to win.
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January 23, 2015, 08:05:30 PM
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Then there's the whole "settlement in progress" bullshit. You seem to have no problem taking in our money instantly.....but when it comes to payouts, you hold our fucking money.
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January 23, 2015, 08:15:53 PM
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Then there's the whole "settlement in progress" bullshit. You seem to have no problem taking in our money instantly.....but when it comes to payouts, you hold our fucking money.
I guess it's just you.

I have never had any problems with payouts here. All my bets paid out within 15 minutes after the result is known.
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