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well that sucks, it took longer than usual. My odds were 1.85, got bumped down to 1.59  Your bet did not arrive on time due to a technical problem with the Darkcoin wallet that is not in our control. As a courtesy I changed the confirmed odds for your bet to 1.89. If the problem persists please e-mail support@directbet.eu. Thanks. I wasn't aware of the DRK issue, you guys are awesome. Thanks! |
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iqbal14st
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January 21, 2015, 02:33:44 AM |
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well that sucks, it took longer than usual. My odds were 1.85, got bumped down to 1.59 Your bet did not arrive on time due to a technical problem with the Darkcoin wallet that is not in our control. As a courtesy I changed the confirmed odds for your bet to 1.89. If the problem persists please e-mail support@directbet.eu. Thanks. I wasn't aware of the DRK issue, you guys are awesome. Thanks! I too have experienced this sort of thing .. but only shifted slightly ods her. |
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January 21, 2015, 02:51:31 AM |
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I too have experienced this sort of thing ..
but only shifted slightly ods her.
Please e-mail us your bet ID if you were affected by this. We're working with the Darkcoin team to ensure this will not happen again. Meanwhile, our Darkcoin wallet is up and running normally now. |
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iqbal14st
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January 21, 2015, 03:24:56 AM |
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I too have experienced this sort of thing ..
but only shifted slightly ods her.
Please e-mail us your bet ID if you were affected by this. We're working with the Darkcoin team to ensure this will not happen again. Meanwhile, our Darkcoin wallet is up and running normally now. ok .. I'll tell you if this happens again,, all this for the common good ... oh yes, whether directbet fanspage have facebook? |
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January 21, 2015, 08:21:19 AM |
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ok ..
I'll tell you if this happens again,,
all this for the common good ...
oh yes, whether directbet fanspage have facebook?
Hi iqbal14st, Thanks a lot  Sure, we have Facebook & Twitter : 'Follow' us on Twitter ! 'Like' us on Facebook ! We are also currently running Facebook & Twitter giveaways and will be happy if you participate, if you like : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=887679.0https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=845816.0Please feel free to contact us if you have any questions. All the Best, Michelle |
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January 21, 2015, 03:56:20 PM |
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has anyone also noticed delays in setting of bets last few days  ? I mean the bet result is already provided in the betslip (=won), but there still appears: Bet Status : Settlement in Progress
Message : A Payout of XXXXXX BTC will be issued after 1 confirmation.( http://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1NA6NaeDGL8jhRsUTfpZH4UAFGkfBXfYFH) The transaction already has 2 confirmations however. Yesterday this even happened to me with a betslip where the bet was settled as won but the payout was delayed in spite of the original betting transaction having 5 confirmations (5 confirmations should be more than enough if you promise to pay out after 1!) This means not that I´m not content with Directbet, but I use this site longtime and the delays of bet settlement have gotten worse over time! Or am I the only one who feels like this? This especially sucks if you want to gamble your winnings directly again, if you need to wait 20 minutes or more after the match is finished. |
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January 21, 2015, 04:02:24 PM |
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maybe the issue is that you "pool" several winning payouts of users in order to save transaction fees! I don´t mean this as an attack, because I understand the economic reasons for this. And at a service like bitstamp it is perfectly fine to pool payouts in order to save fees. But you´re a website with livebetting where fast payouts are absolutely essential. Hope you understand what I mean  Maybe you can improve this again. |
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January 21, 2015, 04:06:55 PM |
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has anyone also noticed delays in setting of bets last few days ? I mean the bet result is already provided in the betslip (=won), but there still appears: Bet Status : Settlement in Progress
Message : A Payout of XXXXXX BTC will be issued after 1 confirmation.( http://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1NA6NaeDGL8jhRsUTfpZH4UAFGkfBXfYFH) The transaction already has 2 confirmations however. Yesterday this even happened to me with a betslip where the bet was settled as won but the payout was delayed in spite of the original betting transaction having 5 confirmations (5 confirmations should be more than enough if you promise to pay out after 1!) This means not that I´m not content with Directbet, but I use this site longtime and the delays of bet settlement have gotten worse over time! Or am I the only one who feels like this? This especially sucks if you want to gamble your winnings directly again, if you need to wait 20 minutes or more after the match is finished. I never had this problem. I received all my winnings instantly after 1 confirmation. maybe the issue is that you "pool" several winning payouts of users in order to save transaction fees! I don´t mean this as an attack, because I understand the economic reasons for this. And at a service like bitstamp it is perfectly fine to pool payouts in order to save fees. But you´re a website with livebetting where fast payouts are absolutely essential. Hope you understand what I mean Maybe you can improve this again. what's the use of pooling several winnings? The winnings already have tx fee(0.0001BTC) cut from the total. |
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January 21, 2015, 04:16:28 PM |
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has anyone also noticed delays in setting of bets last few days ? I mean the bet result is already provided in the betslip (=won), but there still appears: Bet Status : Settlement in Progress
Message : A Payout of XXXXXX BTC will be issued after 1 confirmation.( http://directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1NA6NaeDGL8jhRsUTfpZH4UAFGkfBXfYFH) The transaction already has 2 confirmations however. Yesterday this even happened to me with a betslip where the bet was settled as won but the payout was delayed in spite of the original betting transaction having 5 confirmations (5 confirmations should be more than enough if you promise to pay out after 1!) This means not that I´m not content with Directbet, but I use this site longtime and the delays of bet settlement have gotten worse over time! Or am I the only one who feels like this? This especially sucks if you want to gamble your winnings directly again, if you need to wait 20 minutes or more after the match is finished. I never had this problem. I received all my winnings instantly after 1 confirmation.
The current bet was on 1st half of portuguese cup. The bet was instantly settled as won after halftime whistle.
(at this point there were already 2 confirmations)
However I got the payout now, after 7 minutes played in 2nd half.
That means I had to wait:
-15 minutes of haltime
-7 minutes of play
=22 minutes
That´s not instant and my transaction already had enough confirmations at halftime maybe the issue is that you "pool" several winning payouts of users in order to save transaction fees! I don´t mean this as an attack, because I understand the economic reasons for this. And at a service like bitstamp it is perfectly fine to pool payouts in order to save fees. But you´re a website with livebetting where fast payouts are absolutely essential. Hope you understand what I mean Maybe you can improve this again. what's the use of pooling several winnings? The winnings already have tx fee(0.0001BTC) cut from the total. I don´t think they deduct transcation fee from the bet payout. See my above betslip, the payout I got know was 244,8 without a single satoshi being deducted as fee |
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January 21, 2015, 04:22:05 PM |
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maybe the issue is that you "pool" several winning payouts of users in order
to save transaction fees!
We don't combine several payouts into a single transaction because we don't want to hold out payouts. Each payout is sent out independently as soon as it is technically possible. Sometimes during rush hours it takes a few more minutes for payouts to be issued due to a technical limitation. The reason is because we have too many payouts to issue simultaneously for players playing with the Direct Dice and it's clogging up the wallet. We understand you want it faster and will attempt to improve that in the coming days. Meanwhile, if your bet status says "Settlement in Progress", rest assured the payout is being issued. |
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January 21, 2015, 04:24:00 PM |
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The winnings already have tx fee(0.0001BTC) cut from the total.
We don't deduct fees for sport bets payouts. |
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January 21, 2015, 04:24:39 PM |
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maybe the issue is that you "pool" several winning payouts of users in order
to save transaction fees!
We don't combine several payouts into a single transaction because we don't want to hold out payouts. Each payout is sent out independently as soon as it is technically possible. Sometimes during rush hours it takes a few more minutes for payouts to be issued due to a technical limitation. The reason is because we have too many payouts to issue simultaneously for players playing with the Direct Dice and it's clogging up the wallet. We understand you want it faster and will attempt to improve that in the coming days. Meanwhile, if your bet status says "Settlement in Progress", rest assured the payout is being issued. thank you for the explanation (and a fast reply!) However, don´t you think it would be better in the long-term if you let Direct-Dice and Directbet run on different servers? I´m not sure if that is possible because they seem to be intertwined, but if Dice traffic would really pick up and increase the situation will get worse. And no one wants slow bet payouts I guess. But maybe you manage to improve it with some other way. Thank you anyways. |
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January 21, 2015, 05:52:49 PM |
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However, don´t you think it would be better in the long-term if you let Direct-Dice and Directbet run on different servers?
Thanks for the suggestion, we will look into it and find the best solution. The 20 minutes payout delay that you experienced is quite rare and despite the delay you received the payout while the event was still in progress Nevertheless, we are happy to be under high expectations and will work to improve that in the coming days. Thanks again for your feedback and thanks for betting at DirectBet. |
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January 21, 2015, 08:47:17 PM |
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site is broken, bets stuck in "settlement in progress"
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January 21, 2015, 09:04:12 PM |
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site is broken, bets stuck in "settlement in progress"
If your bet status says "Settlement in Progress" rest assured the payout is being processed and you should receive it within a few minutes. It takes a few minutes due to the high volume of simultaneous payouts that we're currently processing. |
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January 23, 2015, 04:25:39 PM |
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Congratulations koshgel for winning 180 mBTC free bet in our Basketball Prediction Game !DirectBet Basketball Prediction Game *** Win Free Bets ! *** Free to Enter !NBAOklahoma City @ AtlantaPrize : 10 mBTC Free Bet !Post your prediction for the correct score in our Basketball Prediction Game thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=721578.0All the Best, Michelle
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January 23, 2015, 06:56:22 PM |
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13:00 Slask Wroclaw v Trefl Sopot Polish PLK 2014/15
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Slask Wroclaw @ -625.1
Trefl Sopot @ +225
How is this even remotely fair? This isn't even one of the "bad" ones. This is par for the course at Directbet for Live games (except for live soccer, which has fair odds).
You blame the odds provider, but you are the ones that pay them to provide you with the service. You also tell them how much margin to set between the favorite and underdog. You are price gouging. Also, only offering one side of a bet is complete bullshit. No odds provider in the world would do that on their own. Look at Bet365 - they ALWAYS have both sides of a match. Your odds are typically not even close to theirs for basketball, baseball, football.
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January 23, 2015, 06:59:54 PM |
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13:00 Slask Wroclaw v Trefl Sopot Polish PLK 2014/15
LIVE ! Moneyline
Slask Wroclaw @ -625.1
Trefl Sopot @ +225
How is this even remotely fair? This isn't even one of the "bad" ones. This is par for the course at Directbet for Live games (except for live soccer, which has fair odds).
You blame the odds provider, but you are the ones that pay them to provide you with the service. You also tell them how much margin to set between the favorite and underdog. You are price gouging. Also, only offering one side of a bet is complete bullshit. No odds provider in the world would do that on their own. Look at Bet365 - they ALWAYS have both sides of a match. Your odds are typically not even close to theirs for basketball, baseball, football.
This is part of the reason why unlicensed betting operations are illegal. The book can do whatever they want and the customer has no protection. This same event at Bet365 has Wroclaw @ -390 and Trefl @+280 |
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January 23, 2015, 07:35:37 PM |
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How is this even remotely fair? This isn't even one of the "bad" ones. This is par for the course at Directbet for Live games (except for live soccer, which has fair odds).
If you're looking for a bet with no house edge you may want to check our Direct Dice. http://www.directbet.eu/Event.cshtml?EventID=777Direct Dice is a provably fair dice betting game featuring no house edge for frequent bettors. In fact, you can actually gain a small edge over the house, because while betting with no house edge you're freerolling on the 10 BTC Jackpot ! |
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