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81  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 05, 2013, 10:56:22 PM
Does avatrade offer BTC-denominated accounts like Broker1, or is all of it USD, and you can just buy BTC/USD cfds?
82  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 05, 2013, 08:13:51 PM
The buy wall at $105 seems to be gradually growing (probably just people bandwaggoning just beneath it) and gox is basically looking pretty bullish.

Bitstamp on the other hand has significantly more asks than bids within $10 in either direction. This is not bullish at all. Another thing I noticed is that the "clumpy" curve (i.e, the curve with the biggest walls, i.e, not smooth) generally is a stronger support than the smooth curve. Mt. Gox's bid wall is indeed very clumpy, while bitstamp's ask wall seems to be a bit clumpier than their bid. This probably means that the spread between the two is not going to be going down any time soon.

Bitfinex rates seem to generally indicate bullish tendencies, regardless of the fact that Bitfinex is essentially Bitstamp's market. The USD interest rates have been growing since yesterday fairly steadily, which is generally a bullish sign. According to Bitfinex's rates, people there are basically expecting BTC/USD to go up about 0.15% daily. The BSI is also positive, not sure thats very significant though.
83  Economy / Speculation / Re: Market has peaked, sell off incoming. on: August 05, 2013, 07:31:21 PM

wtf is this
84  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 05, 2013, 04:35:36 PM
In order to the 5-th wave theory to work, we'd need to break above $112 by a fair margin. Otherwise, we've essentially just got a dumb ranging market on our hands.

haha you're talking about bitcoin right

Yea, a range... but its like 5% range Tongue
85  Other / Off-topic / Re: Half of all Tor sites compromised, Freedom Hosting founder arrested. on: August 05, 2013, 04:28:29 PM
Kids, the way to use Tor is to have your firewall to intercept ALL your outgoing connections and route em via Tor proxy. Flash or no flash.


How does one go about doing this?
86  Economy / Speculation / Re: Poll: When will we see $200 again? on: August 05, 2013, 04:27:02 PM
If Paypal adopts Bitcoin the price will rise pretty fast I think.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=268180.msg2868534#msg2868534
that could only be a hoax, don't be fooled

Of course its a hoax.
87  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 05, 2013, 04:25:29 PM
In order to the 5-th wave theory to work, we'd need to break above $112 by a fair margin. Otherwise, we've essentially just got a dumb ranging market on our hands.
88  Economy / Speculation / Re: Poll: When will we see $200 again? on: August 05, 2013, 06:20:57 AM
So Lets see if bitfinex can save the day a second time. Waiting for a good entry time to sell and then loan my funds out for a bit at those astronomical rates. Then im going to compensate by levering long at broker1 as explained in sig. The problem is those huge spreads. Trick now is to pick the best time to buy, when I think the gox/stamp spread is the lowest its going to be in the near future. Then if all goes well I can sit back and collect interest.
89  Economy / Speculation / Re: Poll: When will we see $200 again? on: August 05, 2013, 06:06:27 AM
So, if I short at bitfinex, can I use the resulting btc to lend out at a profit? Or are you not allowed to lend like that while you're in debt?

In any case the depth there is sucking, but I shouldnt complain, if it had been deeper maybe I wouldnt have got that btc back Wink
90  Economy / Speculation / Re: Poll: When will we see $200 again? on: August 05, 2013, 05:16:09 AM
I want it to go down as well, at least in the short term. When it goes down the spread between Gox & Bitstamp typically gets less, and I have USD stuck in Gox. Also I sold at $102.65 Sad

EDIT: YES! Bitfinex 4 da win Smiley Nvm now I want it to go up up UP
91  Other / Off-topic / Re: Half of all Tor sites compromised, Freedom Hosting founder arrested. on: August 05, 2013, 05:09:04 AM
What? Then whats the entire point of tor? Wtf?

I still don't see how JS is getting my IP, though. I'm using TOR, the browser is the TOR browser. I assume (i'm not an expert) that all connections through that browser have to hop through tor, right? So how is the JS opening the connection outside of TOR, in order to get the IP?

It's a script so it can do quite a number of things. One thing it can do is launch different protocol handlers, ie. Flash, which when launched won't know to connect through the Tor client and will connect through your regular connection - because that's what it does by default. So you'd load the site on Tor and some component thereof on your regular connection, which needless to say, compromises your identity.

Wow, I thought tor protected you from this kind of hack in some way. Isn't there some way of stopping all non-tor connections automatically? I mean, like doing some way of catching all traffic that isn't through tor, and blocking it all. Clearly it would get in the way sometimes, but going without JS sorta makes the majority of websites useless.

I was under the impression there was some 0-day firefox exploit that allowed the hacker to download some .exe (or equiv) file to the client computer and execute it, and get the IP in that way.

In a perfect world, there would be an https-style warning "this site is attempting to display some content to you outside of the tor network, do you want to allow" or the like.

Quote
Whonix is an operating system focused on anonymity, privacy and security. It's based on the Tor anonymity network[5], Debian GNU/Linux[6] and security by isolation. DNS leaks are impossible, and not even malware with root privileges can find out the user's real IP.
Whonix consists of two parts: One solely runs Tor and acts as a gateway, which we call Whonix-Gateway. The other, which we call Whonix-Workstation, is on a completely isolated network. Only connections through Tor are possible.
https://whonix.org/wiki/Main_Page

Wow, thats super legit. Somebody should build a chrome-os type thing off of that for clients. Its made for that type of thing. Problem is youd likely get very bad load times, am I right? Still, I'm sure some people would have a use for it.

Wow, with Whonix & Bitcoin, its possible to practically use the entirity of the internet, payments & all, without any privacy concerns whatsoever. Its good to the point of being disconcerting.

In any case, wouldn't it be possible to build it right into the browser? I mean, everything in the browser, all plug-ins, etc... would either not work, or would have to go through tor. Thatd be much more convenient than having to completely re-boot into an entirely different OS just to use tor.

92  Other / Off-topic / Re: Half of all Tor sites compromised, Freedom Hosting founder arrested. on: August 05, 2013, 03:09:32 AM
What? Then whats the entire point of tor? Wtf?

I still don't see how JS is getting my IP, though. I'm using TOR, the browser is the TOR browser. I assume (i'm not an expert) that all connections through that browser have to hop through tor, right? So how is the JS opening the connection outside of TOR, in order to get the IP?

It's a script so it can do quite a number of things. One thing it can do is launch different protocol handlers, ie. Flash, which when launched won't know to connect through the Tor client and will connect through your regular connection - because that's what it does by default. So you'd load the site on Tor and some component thereof on your regular connection, which needless to say, compromises your identity.

Wow, I thought tor protected you from this kind of hack in some way. Isn't there some way of stopping all non-tor connections automatically? I mean, like doing some way of catching all traffic that isn't through tor, and blocking it all. Clearly it would get in the way sometimes, but going without JS sorta makes the majority of websites useless.

I was under the impression there was some 0-day firefox exploit that allowed the hacker to download some .exe (or equiv) file to the client computer and execute it, and get the IP in that way.

In a perfect world, there would be an https-style warning "this site is attempting to display some content to you outside of the tor network, do you want to allow" or the like.
93  Other / Off-topic / Re: Half of all Tor sites compromised, Freedom Hosting founder arrested. on: August 05, 2013, 02:49:22 AM
Forgive me if I'm being naiive, but this doesn't quite make sense to me?

So somehow freedom hosting was hacked, and the hacker put some malicious JS on each of freedom hosting's hosted websites, and used that hack to put software on freedom hosting's machine to ascertain its location. That part seems reasonable & believable. But, apparently the JS somehow got at the viewer's IP? That seems like, sorta a major bug in the Tor software? Couldn't any admin anywhere use that code to get at the viewer's IP, in theory? Unless I'm understanding something wrong?

EDIT: so the tor browser had some sort of a glitch that allowed malware to be downloaded to the computers, and then apparently ping one of the attacker's computers outside of tor to get the IP of the viewer?

Basically you can do that with Flash, Javascript, and a few other web languages.

Usually NoScript stops all these things in the browser bundle, but they don't have it enabled by default because it breaks a lot of sites and they are trying to capture more, less savvy users.

What? Then whats the entire point of tor? Wtf?

I still don't see how JS is getting my IP, though. I'm using TOR, the browser is the TOR browser. I assume (i'm not an expert) that all connections through that browser have to hop through tor, right? So how is the JS opening the connection outside of TOR, in order to get the IP?
94  Other / Off-topic / Re: Half of all Tor sites compromised, Freedom Hosting founder arrested. on: August 05, 2013, 02:43:33 AM
Forgive me if I'm being naiive, but this doesn't quite make sense to me?

So somehow freedom hosting was hacked, and the hacker put some malicious JS on each of freedom hosting's hosted websites, and used that hack to put software on freedom hosting's machine to ascertain its location. That part seems reasonable & believable. But, apparently the JS somehow got at the viewer's IP? That seems like, sorta a major bug in the Tor software? Couldn't any admin anywhere use that code to get at the viewer's IP, in theory? Unless I'm understanding something wrong?

EDIT: so the tor browser had some sort of a glitch that allowed malware to be downloaded to the computers, and then apparently ping one of the attacker's computers outside of tor to get the IP of the viewer?
95  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 05, 2013, 02:18:57 AM

How's he getting 210? Isn't it the difference from the top of the head to the neckline, i.e, 50-ish, making take profit about $155 (depending on which exchange you're looking at)?
96  Economy / Securities / Re: Bitcoin Risk Management Offer by Kazu: Benefit from Uptrends, hedge out of Down on: August 05, 2013, 01:30:15 AM
I'm officially being screwed over right now. The goddamn interest rates on Bitfinex for borrowing BTC are practically 0 while you have to pay some monstrous rate to borrow USD, the price is going up, and I cant do shit. WTF do I do now. I have already lost like 2 BTC if I buy right now.

I'm good at advertising! Am I not?  Cry

The issue is not with this strategy, but with me selling on gox too soon. I either should have sold on another exchange, or not sold at all (the latter is obviously better). If I buy BTC now at gox and attempt to begin this strategy, I'll be 2 BTC in the hole from where I did sell, and if I dont, then I have USD sitting on Gox and doing nothing.

Assuming I followed this strategy, even if I took a lower-swing version, I'd need it to move like 15% or more in one direction or the other before even being able to break even with the loss I took, not counting fees. And assuming I waited, my USD is dead in the water in GOX, I can't even lend it out. Ironically, Bitfinex has higher USD loan rates, and I have USD, but I can't even do anything with it.
97  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 04, 2013, 11:55:01 PM
I'm officially being screwed over right now. The goddamn interest rates on Bitfinex for borrowing BTC are practically 0 while you have to pay some monstrous rate to borrow USD, the price is going up, and I cant do shit. WTF do I do now. I have already lost like 2 BTC if I buy right now.
98  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Debt Instruments & BTC-E on: August 04, 2013, 08:58:21 PM
This is like the little cousin of fractional reserve banking, still problematic though.

Its how fractional reserve banking originated, yes? 'What if, rather than charging depositers more for our service, we used their money which we have control over for something, and make money that way?'
99  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC Debt Instruments & BTC-E on: August 04, 2013, 08:39:46 PM
Idk, I guess if the Bitcoin price there started going up suddenly for some reason it could prompt people to want to either exchange their USD to Bitcoin and withdraw the bitcoin, if they cant withdraw their USD because they are from america.
100  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: August 04, 2013, 05:37:37 PM
TBH the new interface still looks pretty bad...

Also, still no stop.
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