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821  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Novosti on: October 16, 2023, 08:18:03 PM
Ovisi koliko love imate i koliko se želite osigurati, ono što sam do sada vidio kod ovih većih playear je to da je opcenito praksa da se sve prebaci na neku reputabilnu wealth management kuću ili estate planning attorneya. Firme koje se stoljećima bave tim poslom.

Znači ta firma onda ima pristup vašem potpisu, 2FA aplikaciji te bilo kakvim loginovima ili mailovima, uz punomoć naravno. U slučaju smrti vas + vaše backup osobe (e.g. žena je backup, ali se skupa s vama spizdila u autu) može sve assete prebaciti na sljedeću osobu (klinca) ili pratiti prethodno dogovorenu putanju, koja god to već bila (dat klincu sve u komadu, dat skrbniku, dat klincu mjesečni đeparac etc).


Ovo opet povlači ono pitanje što s kripto imovinom u slučaju smrti ili nečeg sličnog. Moram priznati da moja žena u tom slučaju vjerojatno ništa me bi znala sama nego bi morala potražiti pomoć. E sad... Kome vjerovati u toj mjeri da mogu biti siguran da ju neće opljačkati? Razmišljao sam napisati sve na papir i spremiti na sigurno, ali problem je što stalno nešto prebacujem s walleta u wallet, iz jedne kriptovalute u drugu... Kako takav papir držati ažurnim? OK, imam hardwarw wallet na kojem imam dvije trećine love ali što s ostatkom kojeg stalno vrtim? Jeste li razmišljali o tome?
822  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: October 16, 2023, 02:49:58 PM
I went with lower bracket just to get more even odds but did not help much in the end. Anyway I promised some help for this one so here it is. That is the problem with asking question early, if I was making it today it would be ML on couple more even games.


DOTA question helper

Be careful guys we are looking for teams that will lose matches this time. Maybe first question like that ever in BSFL so I hope you read it with understanding. If not, there is always VAR.

Here is the bracket, just choose 4 teams that will loose. No point in waiting, nothing will be played before Friday.


Thanks for the help! It's really appreciated when it comes to DOTA questions Smiley Maybe there's no point in waiting to submit because of the DOTA question, but since tennis is involved, I'll just wait and submit tomorrow. I didn't check to see if any of the players are scheduled to play before our deadline.
823  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: October 16, 2023, 08:55:04 AM
Oh man... First round and already I'm up against last season undefeated team leea-1334. I wish you luck, but I hope that your first round with "the big boys" will also be your first loss Grin

As for the logo, I have received my logo but I will try to reduce it's size to 35x35 pixels. Trofo, is there a deadline to send you the logo?
824  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: [VELIKA LISTA] Hardverski novčanici (80+) on: October 16, 2023, 06:00:02 AM
E ovo mi je baš šteta. Možda ne bi bilo loše da su pričekali s izdavanjem novog walleta dok ne završe svoj secure element.
To bi moglo potrajati godinu, dvije, možda i više. Trezor slavi jubilej od 10 godina Trezor One modela i ovo je način da to obilježe. Trezor One će vjerovato prije ili kasnije u mirovinu a ovo je njegova unaprijeđena zamjena. Danas sam čitao u engleskom dijelu da je najavljen još jedan novi Trezor model koji će možda u budućosti imati taj novi skoro pa 100% open-source SE.

Zapravo mi nije jasno koja je razlika između ovog i starijih modela ako niti ovaj nije potpuno open source.
Stariji modeli su bili potpuno open-source. Ako ćemo cjepidlačiti, više su open-source od drugih open-source hardverskih novčanika jer nemaju taj closed-source SE čip. I ovaj je open-source ali sa dodatkom closed-source čipa. Uz još jednu napomenu da navodno mogu javno govoriti o problemima i bugovima s kojima se sreću što nije slučaj sa drugim modelima sigurnosnih elemenata.

Edit: Upravo čitam post dkbit98 u Hardware Wallet sekciji foruma gdje on piše da je ovo open-source SE. Sad je ovdje neko lud. Trezor i Tropic Square rade na proizvodnji prvog open-source SE-a a u međuvremenu su ubacili Infineon SE koji je također open-source. Zanima me koje će biti sljedeća kompanija koja će izbaciti wallet sa open-source SE? Vjerovatno je opet riječ o djelimično open-source čipovima sa više elemenata otvorenog koda.

Što se tiče tvog posta, zašto misliš da je Safe 3 bolji od Ledgera? Vidim da baš pratiš tržište hardware walleta pa me iskreno zanima razlog, naročito jer želim zamijeniti Ledger Nano S.
Pitanje nije upučeno meni ali dat ću sebi pravo da odgovorim.

- Ledger je closed-source (ne samo hardverski dio nego i firmware) a Trezor je open-source.
- Trezori su dugotrajniji i napravljeni od kvalitetnijih materijala. Mada ja nemam problema ni sa jednim ni sa drugim niti sam ih kvario.
- Trezor ima veći i kvalitetniji displej.
- Ledger je imao velikih problema sa Nano X serijom i baterijom.
- Ledger Recover sustav kojeg uvode je katastrofalna greška koju izgleda nemaju namjeru ispraviti.
- Curenje podataka pa njihovo laganje i umanjivanje problema.

Hvala ti na detaljnom odgovoru Smiley Što se tiče Ledger walleta, imao sam nekih problema s njim tako da razumijem kad netko kaže da je njihov wallet zapravo sranje. Jedino mi nije jasno jesu li ostali manje poznati hardware walleti još veće sranje ili samo Ledger puno više daje u marketing pa su njihovi walleti poznatiji. Sjećam se problema s baterijom na Ledger Nano X, a sjećam se dobro i problema koje sam ja na svom walletu imao kad mi se nije htio syncati s Ethereum mrežom jer sam nekad prije na Ledgeru držao SNX tokene. I dan danas mi nije jasno kakve to veze ima, ali to je bio problem s Ledger Live aplikacijom. Sa samim walletom imam problem unatrag nekoliko mjeseci jer primjećujem da mi polagano odlazi ekran. Za sad se još vidi čitati ali mislim da ću uskoro morati mijenjati da mi se ne bi dogodilo da ne mogu koristiti wallet jer ne vidim što piše na ekranu.

Mogu li svoj Ledger wallet importati u Trezor? Pretpostavljam da to nije baš preporučljivo raditi, ali čisto da znam da imam alternativu ako mi ekran totalno ode.
825  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: October 15, 2023, 08:52:14 PM
There is a battle to the death between Norway and Spain... Both teams need only a win, although Spain will be satisfied with a draw... Both teams have performed well in the group and have about the same chances to win, but so far Spain is dominating... Norway has only Haaland, who can't play for the whole team, so Norway will definitely have a hard time in this game...

Precisely because of that ( oth teams needing a win) I played one ticket on Spain and other on both to score. I really thought that there will be more goals. One was denied by VAR and the only regular one was from Spain so I won only one ticket. I should have put everything on Spain...

And for Croatia... I don't know what to say. Yes, we are missing some key players but something is seriously off in the team. We used to have one of the best midfielder trio in the world and now I'm not sure which one of them is making more mistakes... I guess Modric is not Modric anymore and that's what is killing us.
826  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: [VELIKA LISTA] Hardverski novčanici (80+) on: October 15, 2023, 10:10:50 AM
@dkbit98
ti pratiš situaciju sa sigurnosnim elementima. Jesi li našao negdje informaciju koji tačno SE je u Trezor Safe 3? Jel ovaj njihov open-source na kojem su radili ili neki drugi chip?
Napisao je on prije par dana dobar post u kojem je sve objasnio oko novog Trezora i SE. Nazalost, njihov izgleda nije jos gotov tako da su koristili secure element od neke druge firme koji nije open source.

Evo i linka na njegov post u kojem je detaljnije objasnio problematiku https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5469307.msg62985174#msg62985174

E ovo mi je baš šteta. Možda ne bi bilo loše da su pričekali s izdavanjem novog walleta dok ne završe svoj secure element. Zapravo mi nije jasno koja je razlika između ovog i starijih modela ako niti ovaj nije potpuno open source. OK, promijenjeno sučelje i malo nadogradnje ali meni je to zapravo samo unaprijeđena verzija starog modela. Ne bih baš rekao da je novi model.

Što se tiče tvog posta, zašto misliš da je Safe 3 bolji od Ledgera? Vidim da baš pratiš tržište hardware walleta pa me iskreno zanima razlog, naročito jer želim zamijeniti Ledger Nano S.
827  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: October 15, 2023, 09:07:27 AM
Turkey were really impressive against Croatia in their last match. They changed their manager and it was difficult to predict what they could do in this match after that. However this change made a very positive effect on the players. There was a huge progress in the teamwork for example which helped them play much more effective than their opponent.

Today Turkey are going to be hosting Latvia. They have always had really challenging matches against Latvia in their history. Their previous match was also insane if you remember.

But I think this time Turkey will get a more comfortable win. Because this performance should be enough to score multiple goals easily and defend their opponent well at the same time.

I wouldn't say that Turkey's play was impressive against Croatia. They just took what Croatian players offered them and they offered them everything. Croatia hadn't play that bad game in quite some time. If Turkey played an impressive game, they would have won more than 1-0. And that one goal was handed to them by the Croatian goalkeeper.

However, I do think that Turkey will win against Latvia. They are playing at home and Croatia gave them a chance to win this group stage, but they are not allowed to make one mistake! If Croatia and Turkey win all their games until the end of the qualifications, Croatia will win the group due to better score those countries have.
828  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: October 15, 2023, 05:19:26 AM
Norway vs Spain is one of the most beautiful matches of the match program. Norway have won their last 3 matches in Group A of the EURO 2024 Qualifiers. They started the tournament badly. But they got good results in the last matches. On the other hand, Spain are the best in this group. They only lost to Scotland in this group.

Norway must win this match to continue in the tournament. Spain want to finish top of the group by winning this match. It is sure to be a very exciting match. I expect a lot of goals. I think both teams will score in this match.

I find it interesting that bookies are giving pretty high odds on Spain winning this game. The odds are around 2. I know that Norway is playing at home, but it's Spain we are talking about. They should win this game. Their last game ended with Spain's straight 3-0 win. Maybe I'll put some money on it, but I have to see if there are some players missing from the Spain lineup.

The same goes for Croatia. If I didn't know how they played against Turkey few days ago, I would definitely bet on Croatia winning the game since the odds are also pretty high. This is Croatia's "to be or not to be" game because if they lose, it will be hard for them to qualify.
829  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: October 15, 2023, 04:03:01 AM
-snip

Oh just great! I barely got used to the upper and lower bracket system and now there is something different. Maybe it's easier to just give up on that question... Or maybe Trofo decides not to include DOTA because of this? (fingers crossed) Grin

Yeah there wont be anything that sort this week if dota2 get included in the question but check the playoff and final dates for that, its on the last week of October so that means it probably gets included in the 2nd round of 3rd season if cro2 team decided to put in another dota2 related question

Anyway upper and lower bracket system is pretty interesting once you are familiar with it. Basically it gives advantage to the team that perform their best on group stages because some teams loves to keep some of their strategy on group stages

/snip


Yes, I got familiar with upper and lower bracket system because of the BSFL competition. It's a good system but I'm not that used to it in "normal" sports so it took me a while to understand it. I didn't refer to that as a complication, but on the thing that you wrote about none of the teams getting eliminated. I don't know, I just hope there won't be more than one DOTA question so it's not a big problem to lose that point.
830  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: October 14, 2023, 05:46:50 PM
Yeah the 2nd phase is pretty weird, basically 16 teams left and none will get eliminated on the 2nd phase according to the description because 16 teams will still get to the playoff (?). Most likely the same as regular group stage on the 1st phase but they kinda reword it completely so this is going to be the decider for upper and lower bracket for the playoff huh





Oh just great! I barely got used to the upper and lower bracket system and now there is something different. Maybe it's easier to just give up on that question... Or maybe Trofo decides not to include DOTA because of this? (fingers crossed) Grin
831  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: October 14, 2023, 01:52:42 PM
Just because you called me Teofo, I am writing DOTA questions asap. Kidding aside, there will be DOTA question for sure in round  1 and probably 2. The International is going on which is like world cup in eSport circles. But format is a little strange so I have to see how to ask something meaningful that will be ok for our competition format.

Ah shit! Now I will blame my mobile keyboard for the fact that I need to research DOTA. I knew that you will make hard for us to begin the season. I just hope I won't be up against some of the DOTA experts here. In fact I'm not sure if there are DOTA experts here besides you.
832  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ UEFA Euro 2024 in Germany ⚽ - Qualifiers on: October 14, 2023, 01:36:21 PM
Looks like Türkiye-Latvia will be one of the safest bets tomorrow cause Türkiye will nearly guarentee to go Euros if they win and Latvia only got 1 win which was against Armenia. Latvia is still the weakest team in group. Croatia s match against Wales will be harder cause Croatia loss may completely mess their chances and wake Wales up from its sleep. I think in squad quality Wales was 3rd team here in that group but they can still beat Türkiye at last match as well.

After a slip up against Turkey, Croatia must win this game against Wales if they want to win the group. I know that two nations will qualify but the first place brings easier opponents in the championship. I'm somehow convince that Croatia and Turkey will qualify for the EURO but it remains to be seen which national will qualify as the winner of the group.
833  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: October 14, 2023, 01:30:09 PM
/snip

good thing that we missed on international football with a break, so Cro2 can focus on club football for first round questions Smiley

all the best in new season to all participants, let's have fun, and kudos to Sportsbet, Trofo and cryptofrka for organizing all this

Don't worry, I'm sure that Teofo and cryptofrka will find some non football related questions for the first round. I would be surprised if they didn't. I just hope there won't be any DOTA questions as they are so hard to predict.

Good luck to all the participants from me too. It will be a long season.
834  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: October 13, 2023, 06:30:06 PM
Livakovic made important saves in the first half of the match in Turkey as well. We have played matches against Croatia many times in the recent years. I hope that these two countries join Euro 2024 together.

By the way İsmail Yüksek's performance has been discussed a lot in Turkey. Has the Croatian media made comments on our players? I mean like individual performances and so on.

Croatia and Turkey played a lot of games. Yesterday I heard on TV that with yesterday's game Turkey became the country that Croatia played the most football games with. Our neighbors Slovenia has the same number of games against us, but I think that we played much more friendly games with them than with Turkey.

As for Yuksek, I don't remember reading about him, but I don't follow Croatian media that much. I just saw that he got the best rating for the last night's game.
835  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: October 13, 2023, 03:49:27 PM
Both teams had a lot of problems with injuries and I expected a strange game but with more goals. Had both to score on one ticket myself. Almost came trough the penalty towards the end but that would be super harsh for the Turkey.

Can't even be mad at Livaković for gifting the goal like that, he had a couple of great saves before that.

I dont think Livaković is guilty for losing that game. Yeah, he practically gave that goal to Turkey, but its because of him that Croatia didn't concede more goals. The whole team played bad. I don't remember seeing Croatia playing that bad a long time.
836  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 10000$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: October 13, 2023, 08:07:47 AM
-snip
Man Crotia ruined my night! 1.5 goals, home score, BTS options on three different ticket. All burst.

skipping all qualification games, since all top teams have easy task to qualify, and can allow few bad results here and there

with that many teams on Euro, it is a task not to qualify, but some may succeess that, Poland as prime example for that, although they still have chance

/snip

I was going to put something on Turkey but forgot in the end... Somehow I expected Croatia to lose after all those injured players. I didn't even watch the game until the end.

Man, I can't wait for the new season ti start. It's pretty boring without having to check the results all the time.
837  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: October 11, 2023, 08:22:51 PM
As part of a freebet grading revamp, it might be beneficial to the player if he submits early.
We want to settle all freebets in the actual rounds, so that people don't have to fight for them for weeks.

The new rules for freebets are here:

There's also a slight change in how we'll calculate the freebet round winners.
First criteria will be total points, and only the best answer in the league will be able to claim the H2H point.
Second criteria will be all the H2H duels in that round between the tied players. If the player already claimed a point for the best answer in the league in a H2H question, that one will not be counted.
Third criteria in case there is still a tie after the H2H questions will be the time of submission - earlier submission will win the freebet.

Ah, I see. I remember that we talked about this some time during the last season but it looks like I missed it during this week conversation. I think it's good approach to settle all freebets in the same week. And it's less work for you guys.
838  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: October 11, 2023, 08:01:56 PM
/snip

Now there's an incentive to submit early, so we expect VAR to be used a bit more often.

Wait, did I miss something? What are you referring to as the incentive for submitting early? Do you mean that incentive is that you are sure that you won't be late or some other incentive? It's hard to read all these walls of text on mobile so I'm wondering did I miss something.
839  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: October 11, 2023, 05:01:47 PM
@Harkorede my post wasn't directed to you. I was speaking generally that penalties are for me something that can easily be avoided by playing by the rules. And that's why I think that the penalty of -1 points (plus losing potential three points does to automatic loss) is not that harsh.

As for the VAR suggestion, I don't think that anyone would be willing to accept -1 point to change an answer. To me it's better to have one wrong answer than automatic -1 point. I think that I used only one VAR in the last season.
840  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⭐⚽⭐ Sportsbet's Bitcointalk Sports Fanatics League (BSFL) – 7000+$ rewards ⭐⚽⭐ on: October 11, 2023, 03:32:30 PM
I like the late submission rule, and it meaning an automatic loss for the player, I however don't agree with the potential -4 points, that is the penalty points, I believe one should not lose more point than they can gain from a specific round, in that light I suggest that penalty points should be an independent entity on it's own, and not technically associated with a user accrued points in the league, for unforeseen circumstance beyond human decision anyone could miss a round, I mean even team Cro2 stands a chance of failing to have a question available for despite that never being the case due to their extreme professionalism.

Penalty points would be better off being independent like I aforementioned, just like the VAR, let's say the maximum number of penalty (warning) points every user can get per season is proportional in terms of %age to the number of fixture available to them for that season, perhaps a maximum of 2-3 penalty points before an automatic relegation consideration regardless of where the user finishes by the end of the season while the first person on the relegation table if consistent enough with their submission gets to stay another season in their current division.

My thought on penalties involving anything is if you don't line the penalty, don't do anything that will earn you a penalty. It's as simply as that. It may sound cruel but we have 48 hours to submit our answers. I think that all of us can find 5 minutes to just submit anything. No one is required to do the research if they don't have time.
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