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821  Local / Suche / Re: Ich suche Btc in Österreich(rund um Wien) on: April 04, 2013, 11:40:31 AM
If you can get 30BTC in total, I would take them immediately.
822  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Ripple Giveaway! on: April 04, 2013, 09:58:59 AM
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823  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BBC: Bitcoin is a bizarre game with a currency, which doesn't exist on: April 04, 2013, 07:23:42 AM
The biggest problem is that non-techie people have a hard time understanding that the bitcoin protocol itself "backs up" the value of BTC.
824  Economy / Economics / Re: MTGox Announcement on: April 04, 2013, 06:04:59 AM
"Don't panic" a reference to "A Hitchhikers Guide to the Universe"? Like Pirate@40's last post: "Thank you for all the fish"!

ah, come on, get a life Smiley
825  Local / Suche / Re: Ich suche Btc in Österreich(rund um Wien) on: April 03, 2013, 05:13:24 PM
Habe 4,5BTC oder so zu verkaufen -

Preis: 1BTC ist

Sie haben mehr als 4.5BTC?
826  Economy / Speculation / Re: Just woke up and BTC is OVER $134!!?? on: April 03, 2013, 11:28:48 AM
+ Silk Road, +Avalon, +Namecheap, +Mega, ...

^^^ Kids, this is pure speculation and NO REAL trade is going on, mmm-kay?

I didn't say there wasn't any real trade. I said the increase in the price of bitcoin is way beyond the growth of goods/services, which tells me that the current price is due to speculation and is not therefore not representative of the actual value.

We are seeing 50% fluctuation in a single day, it was around $103~ earlier and went up to $147~. And a few months ago it was under $15. This is not real growth.

My feeling is that most of the people on these forums are extremely mis-informed and are simply spreading the same old bullshit around. Remember, the people telling the stories have the most to gain. It's like a pump and dump salesman who tells you the value is going to shoot through the roof tomorrow so you have to buy today.... It's a self fulfilling prophecy until the penny drops and people start to sell.

I'm not saying that it's without risks to invest money in BTC. however, everything carries the same kind of risks. What makes it different, that the protocol brings so much to this world, you should try and comprehend it.

That is the most important factor and it's worth way more than 140$/BTC.

Nobody tells you to buy, or in other words no one should have an effect on your decisions. If you don't have use for BTC then don't buy it, that's all. Also, if you cannot bear the price movements then sell. There'll be people who will buy them from you. ;-)


827  Local / Suche / Re: Ich suche Btc in Österreich(rund um Wien) on: April 03, 2013, 11:19:42 AM
Hallo,

Ich wohne in Wien. Bis wann brauchst du die Bitcoins?
Für wieviele € willst du Bitcoins kaufen? 5000€?

Und für welchen Preis würdest du kaufen? (z.B 1.03 * MT.Gox)


LG,
CryptCard

Ich schicke für dich eine private Nachricht.

danke
828  Economy / Speculation / Re: Just woke up and BTC is OVER $134!!?? on: April 03, 2013, 09:31:10 AM
So now the value of a bitcoin plummets with about 20 dollars per bitcoin
x 600 (see example) = 12000 dollar.
Good stories about growth and all but do you really think comapnies are gonna switch over to Bitcoin if they can lose these amounts of money in a one hour?
Forget about it.

They do not need to switch completely. They can exchange it for fiat within an hour. They can offer the old payment methods in the same time.

829  Economy / Speculation / Re: Just woke up and BTC is OVER $134!!?? on: April 03, 2013, 09:07:22 AM
I don't like the price rising.
It makes Bitcoin unuseable right now.
Why buy a product of $100 for 1 BTC if I can buy it tommorow for 0.5 BTC?
Pure speculation... this is.

you are clearly not a professional value trader like most of us here

adapt to the future my friend, it is here and it is coming with bitcoins
No, thats right iam a programmer.
I don't understand what you mean btw.
Isn't Bitcoin the new currency everybody should use?
But now its not useable cause of the bizarre fluctuation right?
You tell me wich company wants to take the following risk:

1) They sell 2 cars.
2) Earn 600 Bitcoins
3) Next day the value plummets from $100 to $50.
4) See your day profit vaporize.

Companys simply can't take that risk right now so are not adopting it on a large scale.
Bitcoin needs to become stable and grow steady. Not like now. It's not good for Bitcoin.

It's not fluctuation, but growth, there weren't any significant downward movements for months.

Companies could easily adapt to BTC even with fluctuations (I do run a business accepting BTC). You can always convert BTC to fiat anytime you choose.

An other interesting aspect:
The fiat in my country have been suppressed by EU manipulators by a margin of 25% recently. basically it affected a lot of businesses dependent on imports. Now that is a problem.
830  Economy / Speculation / Re: Just woke up and BTC is OVER $134!!?? on: April 03, 2013, 08:55:03 AM
how long does  bubbles  usually last outside of bitcoin,   in wallstreet  or what not.

No point looking outside of Bitcoin because the dynamics are different. But bubbles usually take many years to mature, and in most cases it's not seen as a bubble because real economic trade continues and masks the nature of the bubble.

Bitcoin bubble is like 1000% in a few months, and no equivalent uptick in trade? How do you explain that one? You can't.

Bubble usually burst when the man in the street is buying


"men in the street" started this
831  Economy / Speculation / Re: Just woke up and BTC is OVER $134!!?? on: April 03, 2013, 08:33:14 AM
WTF is going on? This has to be a bubble??

[just woke up too, and saw the price] - big believer in bitcoin, long term holder of bitcoin, and I really have to agree.  I expect a correction down to 100, maybe below.  This is very much a bubble.  I'm not selling, because I think long term it will rise back again, but equally I'm not going to be shocked when it drops like a stone pretty soon, all part of the eventual growth of bitcoin - it's just too soon for prices like this.  It's not good for bitcoin because it encourages hoarding rather than spending - we need more stability than this.

Will

Stability will come after wider adoption. As it has been said before, BTC have a long road to go. If it will be a success then this price is embarrassingly low (consider the market cap)

Wider adoption means more and more companies accepting it, in analogy, a better infrastructure.
832  Economy / Speculation / Re: Just woke up and BTC is OVER $134!!?? on: April 03, 2013, 08:10:24 AM
you dont understand the word growth my friend

people put their money, enforcing this growth

Thank you for highlighting how utterly uninformed you are.

Yes, people are pumping money into Bitcoin for the simple reason that they hope to cash out at a higher price = speculation.

That is not sustainable, that is basically a Ponzi Pyramid scheme.

The only way Bitcoin can be successful is if there is REAL trade going on. That is, people are buying goods and services with their bitcoins, and unfortunately that market is still relatively small in comparison to the recent price jumps. Yes that market is growing and yes the value of Bitcoins is going to grow, just not at this ridiculous rate.


Transferring or *keeping* money without ridiculous fees (and without a big brother)....do I need to say more? ;-)

I consider 1 aspect which is a real threat to this economy: a fundamental technical fault in the protocol. This what you good people need to keep an eye on.

WE NEED FREE MONEY!


833  Local / Suche / Re: Ich suche Btc in Österreich(rund um Wien) on: April 03, 2013, 08:00:34 AM
Ja ich habe gesucht. So Niemand hat oder nur Banküberweisung kann ich zahlen. Aber ich möchte mit Cash zahlen (euro).
834  Economy / Speculation / Re: Just woke up and BTC is OVER $134!!?? on: April 03, 2013, 08:00:11 AM
I have happy mornings since I've started with BTC (mining and long positions).

All hail BTC Cheesy

Bubble? I would say pushing the world towards balance ;-)
835  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL ASIC April 1st Deliver Bet.. Result Is.... on: April 02, 2013, 03:42:15 PM
I won twice as well Smiley

By the way, does anyone know why is the BFL forum down?  Huh
836  Local / Suche / Re: Ich suche Btc in Österreich(rund um Wien) on: April 02, 2013, 03:39:26 PM
lucky bump Tongue
837  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to kill LTC for dummies on: April 02, 2013, 01:54:38 PM
Why the hate against LTC? I can only see it as a positive addition to the crypto currency "ecosystem" Smiley
838  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LTC][Pool][PPLNS] - ltc.kattare.com - burnside's Litecoin Mining Pool on: April 02, 2013, 01:33:24 PM
I keep getting Couldn't connect to server. Any idea why?

What software do you use? Have you double checked the parameters?

839  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LTC][Pool][PPLNS] - ltc.kattare.com - burnside's Litecoin Mining Pool on: April 02, 2013, 12:17:25 PM
Sorry for the noob question (I dont have time reading 1000s of previous comments), but I wonder how can I change the PIN if I forgot it?  Angry

all help would be highly appreciated Smiley
840  Local / Suche / Ich suche Btc in Österreich(rund um Wien) on: April 01, 2013, 07:38:23 AM
Hallo alle Menschen,

Ich suche jemanden, die bitcoin will Verkaufen. Ich interessiere mich 50-55 BTC (abhangig vom Wechselkurs)
Senden Sie mir eine privat Nachricht, wenn Sie verkaufen möchten.

danke,

desired



_____________________________________

BTC wanted in Austria. Peferably in Wien.


Hello everyone,

I wonder if anyone here wants to sell bitcoins. I'm looking for 50-55 BTC (depends on exchange rate).

Send me a pm if you would be willing to sell Smiley

Austria, Wien preferred.

thanks Smiley









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